For 8 years the right has been called racist.

Now if Hillary is elected that meme will change to sexist.
Liberals just can't fathom that people vehemently disagree with their positions. Their tunnel vision blinds them completely to the fact that their train of thought is but one narrow view of the world.

For 8 years the Right wing has declared that none of the attacks against Barack Obama have been because of race.

Conservatives just won't admit that there are actual racists who attack President Obama because of his skin color. Their tunnel vision blinds them completely to the fact that their train of thought is but one narrow view of the status quo.

You regressives keep making these claims with no specific examples, why?

Here's the problem . You righties are oblivious to most forms of racism . Not your fault . But unless it's a burning cross on a lawns, it won't register on your radar !

For example , you don't see the birther stuff as racism.


Here's the problem, you lefties see racism EVERYWHERE. And it is your fault.


Unless it's a dem. Then they get a pass.


The Birther stuff is not racism.

The left is just as guilty when they questioned where Ted Cruz national birth of origin is based on HIS parents and his qualifications as President, in similar rhetoric as those who attempted the same with Obama. To say one is due to racist views, while we can question the background of another is laughable.
 
Now if Hillary is elected that meme will change to sexist.
Liberals just can't fathom that people vehemently disagree with their positions. Their tunnel vision blinds them completely to the fact that their train of thought is but one narrow view of the world.

For 8 years the Right wing has declared that none of the attacks against Barack Obama have been because of race.

Conservatives just won't admit that there are actual racists who attack President Obama because of his skin color. Their tunnel vision blinds them completely to the fact that their train of thought is but one narrow view of the status quo.

You regressives keep making these claims with no specific examples, why?

Here's the problem . You righties are oblivious to most forms of racism . Not your fault . But unless it's a burning cross on a lawns, it won't register on your radar !

For example , you don't see the birther stuff as racism.

Ok --- let's talk about the birther stuff (you know, the stuff raised first by the Clinton campaign staffers)

Just exactly what is racist about insisting verification of a candidate's eligibility to run for office? Or, could it possibly be your hypersensitivity to race that makes you think it was raised because Obama was black? (I would suggest that makes YOU the racist)
First of all....no it wasn't started by Clinton

Is it racist?
Well considering there was never a shred of evidence that support it, we have the first black candidate whose father was from Kenya. In spite of substantiated proof from the state of Hawaii, birthers carried on for eight years that he was "not really American" like us

Then we have the case of a white candidate who actually was born in Canada. This is the guy they support for president


Query: DO you believe that a person's childhood environment has any effect on him?
 
Now if Hillary is elected that meme will change to sexist.
Liberals just can't fathom that people vehemently disagree with their positions. Their tunnel vision blinds them completely to the fact that their train of thought is but one narrow view of the world.
can you fathom that at least some of thr opposition to obama and driving force behind the 'tea party' was racism?

The tea party is more of a difference in the ideological role of government. Can you comprehend the difference between clear racial statements, from those who demonstrate and protest a different political view of our government? Do you have any links to actual statements that are made from those leaders of the tea party movement, that show nothing else but a clear racial hatred statement towards the president?
you aren't really asking for this, are you?

I am questioning your ability to be able to comprehend the difference. No spin of explanation to try and create a racial atmosphere, a clear racial slur and hateful racial statement from the leaders in charge of the tea party movement. You see a democrat supporter can quite easily create a sentiment of racism by creating a sign and infiltrating in the middle a tea party movement for a photo op (and don't tell me the democrats wouldn't dream of such an attempt to justify THEIR cause). I want a clear racial statement and slur that is without question and can't be disproven
 
Last edited:
For 8 years the right has been called racist.

For eight years many on the right have been talking about how Obama is a secret Kenyan and a Mulsim, a foreigner who illegally snuck into Presidency.

You get what you put in.

Do you think that a person's childhood environment has any influence on them?

Whooop, there you go again.


That was not an answer.

Do you think that a person's childhood environment has any influence on them?
 
"For 8 years the right has been called racist."

The right has only itself to blame, the consequence of the Southern
Strategy and the fact that racists and bigots have found refuge among the ranks of Republicans for decades.

Most racists identify as conservative, most racists vote Republican - this is not to say that conservatives and Republicans endorse racism and bigotry, but clearly there's a problem with rightist dogma that attracts racists and bigots.

And when racism and bigotry manifest on the right, such as unwarranted hostility directed at Muslims, those conservatives engaging in racism and bigotry will be appropriately and accurately identified as racists and bigots.

The Southern Strategy is a myth.

Nixon, the supposed father of the Southern Strategy is the one who desegregated the South's schools.

He did it as quickly and aggressively as possible so that it would be a done before the election.

That was as close as he came to pandering to the racists, to crush their resistance as far away from the election as he could.
Southern Strategy is still going strong

Note how I supported my claim with strong historical evidence.

Then note how you did NOTHING but voice your unsupported opinion and completely failed to even attempt to challenge my provided evidence or my reasoning.


I challenge you to trump the historical example I provided.

Hint: YOU CAN'T.

But you are too dishonest to admit that.
OK....come with me in my Wayback Machine

Pre 1965, Solid South, all Democrats running the south
1965 , Democrat LBJ signs Civil Rights act. South is outraged

1968, Republicans start Southern Strategy to steal those outraged voters away from the Democrats. Republicans start railing against policies like busing, affirmative action, public accommodation. All red meat to the racists

2016, South is solid Red for Republicans at all levels of government
 
Your state had ZERO case of in-person voter impersonation fraud.

Ergo, the photo ID's can't stop voter fraud. Because you can't get less than zero.

So the thousands of people you disenfranchise are all crimes against your own citizens. That is pretty sick and cowardly.

i trust you have some viable documentation that there was ZERO cases of in-person voter impersonation fraud.

You do, right?

Right?
Dude, if someone committed in-person voter impersonation fraud, YOU HAVE THE BURDEN TO PROVE IT.

My proof is the NONEXISTENCE of the evidence of that kind of fraud in Texas.
In person voter impersonation is easy to confirm

Someone voted in your name and you show up and are told you already voted
A person shows up and gives a name and that person had voted already

NEVER happens.


If the people running the voting are as convinced as you are that Republicans are Evul Racist Nazis who need to be stopped, do you really think they would take steps to protect the rights of the "nazis"?

Nazi's? Maybe a little extreme
Do I think the motivation of Republicans is to turn away voters who are unlikely to vote for them?

Absolutely


Godwin smears against republicans are made here daily. It is thus NOT extreme of me to suggest that some lefties believe that.


The rest of your post has nothing to do with anything I said.

YOu completely failed to address, let alone challenge my point.


If the people running the voting are as convinced as you are that Republicans are Evul Racist Nazis who need to be stopped, do you really think they would take steps to protect the rights of the "nazis"?
 
"For 8 years the right has been called racist."

The right has only itself to blame, the consequence of the Southern
Strategy and the fact that racists and bigots have found refuge among the ranks of Republicans for decades.

Most racists identify as conservative, most racists vote Republican - this is not to say that conservatives and Republicans endorse racism and bigotry, but clearly there's a problem with rightist dogma that attracts racists and bigots.

And when racism and bigotry manifest on the right, such as unwarranted hostility directed at Muslims, those conservatives engaging in racism and bigotry will be appropriately and accurately identified as racists and bigots.

The Southern Strategy is a myth.

Nixon, the supposed father of the Southern Strategy is the one who desegregated the South's schools.

He did it as quickly and aggressively as possible so that it would be a done before the election.

That was as close as he came to pandering to the racists, to crush their resistance as far away from the election as he could.
Southern Strategy is still going strong

Note how I supported my claim with strong historical evidence.

Then note how you did NOTHING but voice your unsupported opinion and completely failed to even attempt to challenge my provided evidence or my reasoning.


I challenge you to trump the historical example I provided.

Hint: YOU CAN'T.

But you are too dishonest to admit that.
OK....come with me in my Wayback Machine

Pre 1965, Solid South, all Democrats running the south
1965 , Democrat LBJ signs Civil Rights act. South is outraged

1968, Republicans start Southern Strategy to steal those outraged voters away from the Democrats. Republicans start railing against policies like busing, affirmative action, public accommodation. All red meat to the racists

2016, South is solid Red for Republicans at all levels of government


Nixon pushed busing more than ANYONE, and he was supposedly the Father of the Southern Strategy.


That breaks your line of reasoning right there.


Pre 1965 the South was allied with the Democratic Party which was mostly urban and liberal, BECAUSE of racism.

Once the DNC gave up on suppressing the black vote, the racists of the South had no reason to vote in a block for the Dems.

The Alliance was broken.


The GOP had no racist policies or planks in it's platform. They were not and would not support anything that the racists wanted..

The racists were out in the cold. NO one was supporting their agenda.


Voting took to breaking down among other issues.
 
i trust you have some viable documentation that there was ZERO cases of in-person voter impersonation fraud.

You do, right?

Right?
Dude, if someone committed in-person voter impersonation fraud, YOU HAVE THE BURDEN TO PROVE IT.

My proof is the NONEXISTENCE of the evidence of that kind of fraud in Texas.
In person voter impersonation is easy to confirm

Someone voted in your name and you show up and are told you already voted
A person shows up and gives a name and that person had voted already

NEVER happens.


If the people running the voting are as convinced as you are that Republicans are Evul Racist Nazis who need to be stopped, do you really think they would take steps to protect the rights of the "nazis"?

Nazi's? Maybe a little extreme
Do I think the motivation of Republicans is to turn away voters who are unlikely to vote for them?

Absolutely


Godwin smears against republicans are made here daily. It is thus NOT extreme of me to suggest that some lefties believe that.


The rest of your post has nothing to do with anything I said.

YOu completely failed to address, let alone challenge my point.


If the people running the voting are as convinced as you are that Republicans are Evul Racist Nazis who need to be stopped, do you really think they would take steps to protect the rights of the "nazis"?
Can I offer you a "Hitlery"???

Yes, Republicans are trying to suppress the vote under the excuse of fighting nonexistent voter fraud
 
"For 8 years the right has been called racist."

The right has only itself to blame, the consequence of the Southern
Strategy and the fact that racists and bigots have found refuge among the ranks of Republicans for decades.

Most racists identify as conservative, most racists vote Republican - this is not to say that conservatives and Republicans endorse racism and bigotry, but clearly there's a problem with rightist dogma that attracts racists and bigots.

And when racism and bigotry manifest on the right, such as unwarranted hostility directed at Muslims, those conservatives engaging in racism and bigotry will be appropriately and accurately identified as racists and bigots.

The Southern Strategy is a myth.

Nixon, the supposed father of the Southern Strategy is the one who desegregated the South's schools.

He did it as quickly and aggressively as possible so that it would be a done before the election.

That was as close as he came to pandering to the racists, to crush their resistance as far away from the election as he could.
Southern Strategy is still going strong

Note how I supported my claim with strong historical evidence.

Then note how you did NOTHING but voice your unsupported opinion and completely failed to even attempt to challenge my provided evidence or my reasoning.


I challenge you to trump the historical example I provided.

Hint: YOU CAN'T.

But you are too dishonest to admit that.
OK....come with me in my Wayback Machine

Pre 1965, Solid South, all Democrats running the south
1965 , Democrat LBJ signs Civil Rights act. South is outraged

1968, Republicans start Southern Strategy to steal those outraged voters away from the Democrats. Republicans start railing against policies like busing, affirmative action, public accommodation. All red meat to the racists

2016, South is solid Red for Republicans at all levels of government


Nixon pushed busing more than ANYONE, and he was supposedly the Father of the Southern Strategy.


That breaks your line of reasoning right there.


Pre 1965 the South was allied with the Democratic Party which was mostly urban and liberal, BECAUSE of racism.

Once the DNC gave up on suppressing the black vote, the racists of the South had no reason to vote in a block for the Dems.

The Alliance was broken.


The GOP had no racist policies or planks in it's platform. They were not and would not support anything that the racists wanted..

The racists were out in the cold. NO one was supporting their agenda.


Voting took to breaking down among other issues.
God....that is one of the most bizarre explanations I have ever heard
 
Give me your top example.

ONE, so that I can seriously address it.


(ps kudos for not denying the study)

...How can you address a general problem conservatives among them, as a group, have?

Let's take the basic, widespread denial that tax-cuts increase deficits and debt? It is impossible to admit for many conservatives, no matter the overwhelming evidence and expert economic consensus. I don't see liberals ever denying that spending increases debt, but tax-cut fantasies are basically par-for-the-course in conservatism.
 
"For 8 years the right has been called racist."

The right has only itself to blame, the consequence of the Southern
Strategy and the fact that racists and bigots have found refuge among the ranks of Republicans for decades.

Most racists identify as conservative, most racists vote Republican - this is not to say that conservatives and Republicans endorse racism and bigotry, but clearly there's a problem with rightist dogma that attracts racists and bigots.

And when racism and bigotry manifest on the right, such as unwarranted hostility directed at Muslims, those conservatives engaging in racism and bigotry will be appropriately and accurately identified as racists and bigots.

The Southern Strategy is a myth.

Nixon, the supposed father of the Southern Strategy is the one who desegregated the South's schools.

He did it as quickly and aggressively as possible so that it would be a done before the election.

That was as close as he came to pandering to the racists, to crush their resistance as far away from the election as he could.
Southern Strategy is still going strong

Note how I supported my claim with strong historical evidence.

Then note how you did NOTHING but voice your unsupported opinion and completely failed to even attempt to challenge my provided evidence or my reasoning.


I challenge you to trump the historical example I provided.

Hint: YOU CAN'T.

But you are too dishonest to admit that.
OK....come with me in my Wayback Machine

Pre 1965, Solid South, all Democrats running the south
1965 , Democrat LBJ signs Civil Rights act. South is outraged

1968, Republicans start Southern Strategy to steal those outraged voters away from the Democrats. Republicans start railing against policies like busing, affirmative action, public accommodation. All red meat to the racists

2016, South is solid Red for Republicans at all levels of government

Interesting when Senator Byrd is specifically mentioned in history as leading an 83 day filibuster against the civil raights act of 1964. I wonder if rightringer knows the "party" that he was associated with? This is why the left going with the accusation of "all republicans are racist" during that period of history fails every time. Key points of History, and those specific names involved, have a way of always revealing the truth.
 
For 8 years the right has been called racist.

For eight years many on the right have been talking about how Obama is a secret Kenyan and a Mulsim, a foreigner who illegally snuck into Presidency.

You get what you put in.

Do you think that a person's childhood environment has any influence on them?

Whooop, there you go again.


That was not an answer.

Do you think that a person's childhood environment has any influence on them?

Obama is as American as apple pie, the fact that you even want to go down this his-is-a-foreigner road tells me that when you look at that not-white-man you have a bias thought pattern.

Many americans Presidents and candidates spent a lot of time in other countries, nobody tried to go down the road of accusing them of being foreign.
 
Dude, if someone committed in-person voter impersonation fraud, YOU HAVE THE BURDEN TO PROVE IT.

My proof is the NONEXISTENCE of the evidence of that kind of fraud in Texas.
In person voter impersonation is easy to confirm

Someone voted in your name and you show up and are told you already voted
A person shows up and gives a name and that person had voted already

NEVER happens.


If the people running the voting are as convinced as you are that Republicans are Evul Racist Nazis who need to be stopped, do you really think they would take steps to protect the rights of the "nazis"?

Nazi's? Maybe a little extreme
Do I think the motivation of Republicans is to turn away voters who are unlikely to vote for them?

Absolutely


Godwin smears against republicans are made here daily. It is thus NOT extreme of me to suggest that some lefties believe that.


The rest of your post has nothing to do with anything I said.

YOu completely failed to address, let alone challenge my point.


If the people running the voting are as convinced as you are that Republicans are Evul Racist Nazis who need to be stopped, do you really think they would take steps to protect the rights of the "nazis"?
Can I offer you a "Hitlery"???

Yes, Republicans are trying to suppress the vote under the excuse of fighting nonexistent voter fraud

Can you provide an actual pending court case where an individual was denied, through state legislation, the opportunity to vote because no means to obtain a valid voter ID could be provided? I often find those who use voter suppression in association to voter ID, often have the most difficult time backing that up. So rather than find an actual legal case in support of that view, the left are often found changing the subject of the discussion over a failure to provide a validation to their point.
 
"For 8 years the right has been called racist."

The right has only itself to blame, the consequence of the Southern
Strategy and the fact that racists and bigots have found refuge among the ranks of Republicans for decades.

Most racists identify as conservative, most racists vote Republican - this is not to say that conservatives and Republicans endorse racism and bigotry, but clearly there's a problem with rightist dogma that attracts racists and bigots.

And when racism and bigotry manifest on the right, such as unwarranted hostility directed at Muslims, those conservatives engaging in racism and bigotry will be appropriately and accurately identified as racists and bigots.

The Southern Strategy is a myth.

Nixon, the supposed father of the Southern Strategy is the one who desegregated the South's schools.

He did it as quickly and aggressively as possible so that it would be a done before the election.

That was as close as he came to pandering to the racists, to crush their resistance as far away from the election as he could.
Southern Strategy is still going strong

Note how I supported my claim with strong historical evidence.

Then note how you did NOTHING but voice your unsupported opinion and completely failed to even attempt to challenge my provided evidence or my reasoning.


I challenge you to trump the historical example I provided.

Hint: YOU CAN'T.

But you are too dishonest to admit that.
OK....come with me in my Wayback Machine

Pre 1965, Solid South, all Democrats running the south
1965 , Democrat LBJ signs Civil Rights act. South is outraged

1968, Republicans start Southern Strategy to steal those outraged voters away from the Democrats. Republicans start railing against policies like busing, affirmative action, public accommodation. All red meat to the racists

2016, South is solid Red for Republicans at all levels of government

Interesting when Senator Byrd is specifically mentioned in history as leading an 83 day filibuster against the civil raights act of 1964. I wonder if rightringer knows the "party" that he was associated with? This is why the left going with the accusation of "all republicans are racist" during that period of history fails every time. Key points of History, and those specific names involved, have a way of always revealing the truth.
Excellent point

And what direction did Byrd take on Civil Rights after 1964? He ended up being endorsed by the NAACP for his voting record

No Republican is endorsed by the NAACP

That is your southern strategy
 
For 8 years the right has been called racist.

I'm pretty sure it's been much longer than that.
 
One of the highest ranking Republican leaders in America, the former head of the RNC has come out and called Trump a racist. But what would he know?
Indeed, what would he know?

Protip: Calling someone something does not make them that.
 
It has been scientifically demonstrated that liberals are the WORST at understanding others, while believing they are the best at it.

A combination of ignorance and arrogance that is infuriating to deal with and depressing that it is such a powerful force in the world today.

lol - Source?

Born This Way?

In a study I conducted with colleagues Jesse Graham and Brian Nosek, we tested how well liberals and conservatives could understand each other. We asked more than 2,000 American visitors to fill out the Moral Foundations Questionnaire.

The results were clear and consistent. Moderates and conservatives were most accurate in their predictions, whether they were pretending to be liberals or conservatives. Liberals were the least accurate, especially those who described themselves as “very liberal.” The biggest errors in the whole study came when liberals answered the care and fairness questions while pretending to be conservatives. When faced with statements such as “one of the worst things a person could do is hurt a defenseless animal” or “justice is the most important requirement for a society,” liberals assumed that conservatives would disagree. If you have a moral matrix built primarily on intuitions about care and fairness (as equality), and you listen to the Reagan narrative, what else could you think? Reagan seems completely unconcerned about the welfare of drug addicts, poor people, and gay people. He is more interested in fighting wars and telling people how to run their sex lives.

If you don’t see that Reagan is pursuing positive values of loyalty, authority, and sanctity, you almost have to conclude that Republicans see no positive value in care and fairness. You might even go as far as Michael Feingold, a theater critic for the liberal weekly The Village Voice, when he wrote in 2004: “Republicans don’t believe in the imagination, partly because so few of them have one, but mostly because it gets in the way of their chosen work, which is to destroy the human race and the planet.…Which is why I personally think they should be exterminated before they cause any more harm.” One of the many ironies in this quotation is that it shows the inability of a theater critic—who skillfully enters fantastical imaginary worlds for a living—to imagine that Republicans act within a moral matrix that differs from his own."

Ok fine, study looks more or less legit, but concentrates on MORALITY valuation questions where Liberals misunderstand conservatives, over-vilifying their answers. But that is not the same as misunderstanding arguments conservatives make when it comes to actual issues of debate.

The shit conservatives say around here is so often straight lunacy with a side of consistent disrespect for basic rational, evidence based thought patterns.

I just don't see as much conspiratorial, baseless nonsense from the left.

I don't think conservative are morally evil, I think they operate under their own preferred set of facts and have, willingly or not, developed a whole self-perpetuating machinery to fabricate them.


Give me your top example.

ONE, so that I can seriously address it.


(ps kudos for not denying the study)

I just don't see antontoo in the category of those who provide links or evidence to support a view. Maybe he can prove me wrong.
 
Dude, if someone committed in-person voter impersonation fraud, YOU HAVE THE BURDEN TO PROVE IT.

My proof is the NONEXISTENCE of the evidence of that kind of fraud in Texas.
In person voter impersonation is easy to confirm

Someone voted in your name and you show up and are told you already voted
A person shows up and gives a name and that person had voted already

NEVER happens.


If the people running the voting are as convinced as you are that Republicans are Evul Racist Nazis who need to be stopped, do you really think they would take steps to protect the rights of the "nazis"?

Nazi's? Maybe a little extreme
Do I think the motivation of Republicans is to turn away voters who are unlikely to vote for them?

Absolutely


Godwin smears against republicans are made here daily. It is thus NOT extreme of me to suggest that some lefties believe that.


The rest of your post has nothing to do with anything I said.

YOu completely failed to address, let alone challenge my point.


If the people running the voting are as convinced as you are that Republicans are Evul Racist Nazis who need to be stopped, do you really think they would take steps to protect the rights of the "nazis"?
Can I offer you a "Hitlery"???

Yes, Republicans are trying to suppress the vote under the excuse of fighting nonexistent voter fraud


"Yeah, but you too" does not challenge my point.
 
The Southern Strategy is a myth.

Nixon, the supposed father of the Southern Strategy is the one who desegregated the South's schools.

He did it as quickly and aggressively as possible so that it would be a done before the election.

That was as close as he came to pandering to the racists, to crush their resistance as far away from the election as he could.
Southern Strategy is still going strong

Note how I supported my claim with strong historical evidence.

Then note how you did NOTHING but voice your unsupported opinion and completely failed to even attempt to challenge my provided evidence or my reasoning.


I challenge you to trump the historical example I provided.

Hint: YOU CAN'T.

But you are too dishonest to admit that.
OK....come with me in my Wayback Machine

Pre 1965, Solid South, all Democrats running the south
1965 , Democrat LBJ signs Civil Rights act. South is outraged

1968, Republicans start Southern Strategy to steal those outraged voters away from the Democrats. Republicans start railing against policies like busing, affirmative action, public accommodation. All red meat to the racists

2016, South is solid Red for Republicans at all levels of government


Nixon pushed busing more than ANYONE, and he was supposedly the Father of the Southern Strategy.


That breaks your line of reasoning right there.


Pre 1965 the South was allied with the Democratic Party which was mostly urban and liberal, BECAUSE of racism.

Once the DNC gave up on suppressing the black vote, the racists of the South had no reason to vote in a block for the Dems.

The Alliance was broken.


The GOP had no racist policies or planks in it's platform. They were not and would not support anything that the racists wanted..

The racists were out in the cold. NO one was supporting their agenda.


Voting took to breaking down among other issues.
God....that is one of the most bizarre explanations I have ever heard


Richard "busing" Nixon did not offer the racist ANYTHING.

That point alone breaks your line of reasoning.


There is nothing "bizarre" about that.
 
In person voter impersonation is easy to confirm

Someone voted in your name and you show up and are told you already voted
A person shows up and gives a name and that person had voted already

NEVER happens.


If the people running the voting are as convinced as you are that Republicans are Evul Racist Nazis who need to be stopped, do you really think they would take steps to protect the rights of the "nazis"?

Nazi's? Maybe a little extreme
Do I think the motivation of Republicans is to turn away voters who are unlikely to vote for them?

Absolutely


Godwin smears against republicans are made here daily. It is thus NOT extreme of me to suggest that some lefties believe that.


The rest of your post has nothing to do with anything I said.

YOu completely failed to address, let alone challenge my point.


If the people running the voting are as convinced as you are that Republicans are Evul Racist Nazis who need to be stopped, do you really think they would take steps to protect the rights of the "nazis"?
Can I offer you a "Hitlery"???

Yes, Republicans are trying to suppress the vote under the excuse of fighting nonexistent voter fraud


"Yeah, but you too" does not challenge my point.

"I'm not a puppet....You're a puppet"
 
Back
Top Bottom