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Burgermeister

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I understand giving the jury options here, but I don't know how these things with the stacked convictions usually get sentenced. Seems like most serious crimes would necessarily pull along a number of lesser crimes. Probably makes sense to have the sentences run concurrently rather than adding them all up.
 
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The minute they allowed the first Negro on the jury is was certain the officer was never going to get a fair trial.

The Negroes learned a great lesson.

All they have to do is burn, loot, riot and murder and the White Guilt pukes and stupid Moon Bats will give them anything they want. Hell the sonofabitches got trillions in the Covid bills. Trillion more coming.

Shame on America!

Fuck you & your “Negro/Darkie/Shithead” crap - F’n racist asshole :rolleyes:
Poke a conservative, find a racist.

Meanwhile in Virginia, you made sure this guy kept his job. Well done...

ralph-northam-racist-yearbook-photo-kkk-blackface.jpg
LOLOL

Now you're lying. What did I do to keep that guy in office?

You stayed silent and let the racist piece of shit skate.
Nothing I said or didn't say influenced a single vote. And I never voted for him.

You're truly out of your fucking mind, con. :cuckoo:

As long as you keep quiet about the Klansman, they're happy with you. Well done, boy.
LOL

You're fucked in the head, con. What have you said about that guy?

I railed against him constantly. You kept your mouth shut like a good boy. Might as well have sucked his KKK dick. Good boy.

You did no such thing. But lying is like breathing to your pathetically stupid ass. ;)
The minute they allowed the first Negro on the jury is was certain the officer was never going to get a fair trial.

The Negroes learned a great lesson.

All they have to do is burn, loot, riot and murder and the White Guilt pukes and stupid Moon Bats will give them anything they want. Hell the sonofabitches got trillions in the Covid bills. Trillion more coming.

Shame on America!

Fuck you & your “Negro/Darkie/Shithead” crap - F’n racist asshole :rolleyes:
Poke a conservative, find a racist.

Meanwhile in Virginia, you made sure this guy kept his job. Well done...

ralph-northam-racist-yearbook-photo-kkk-blackface.jpg
LOLOL

Now you're lying. What did I do to keep that guy in office?

You stayed silent and let the racist piece of shit skate.
Nothing I said or didn't say influenced a single vote. And I never voted for him.

You're truly out of your fucking mind, con. :cuckoo:

As long as you keep quiet about the Klansman, they're happy with you. Well done, boy.
LOL

You're fucked in the head, con. What have you said about that guy?

I railed against him constantly. You kept your mouth shut like a good boy. Might as well have sucked his KKK dick. Good boy.
LOLOL

So you rail against him and you failed to get him out of office. Sounds like you're a loser.

At least I tried. You just kept quiet, got on your knees, and opened your mouth for that KKK dick. Good boy.
And you failed miserably. Even worse for you, you even admitted I'm more of a man than you.

Sucks to be you. :lmao:

Hey, there's another Democrat KKK guy over there, go get on your knees and open wide. Good boy!
LOL

That must be your thing; I'm more man than you. You said so yourself. :lmao:

You literally said I could do what you failed miserably to accomplish. You said that jackass is still in office because I said nothing, as though I would have gotten him out of office. At the same time, you admitted you couldn't get him out of office despite trying g "constantly."

That makes me better than you. You may now bow down to me, peon.

Yes, we all know now that you support the KKK. No need to keep reiterating it. In the meantime, I think the klan convention is in town, so your mouth is going to be very, very busy. Get to work, boy.

Marvin - What in the holy fuck is wrong with you? I’m serious. I know a nice lady I bet could help. She’s a PhD and entirely apolitical. Say the word and I’ll give you her digits. Bet she’d do first 1/2 hour consultation for free.
 

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Second Degree UNINTENTIONAL Murder. I think it was INTENTIONAL murder!

Anyway, a great day for the Floyd family, blacks, and the American justice system.

We should all be thankful for Steve Jobs and Darnella Frazier.
 

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GUILTY! GUILTY! GUILTY!

Cops have been put on notice. Your brothers and sisters in blue will speak against you if you don't follow the law.


actually, it was the police chief....

What do these idiots think is going to happen now? Do they think the cops are actually going to put their necks on the line for assholes who live in this city?

If you live there, you better move...before the housing market goes crazy with sales.........normal people will be leaving....and only victims will remain...
 

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The police aren't like ceos...they will still do their jobs.
 

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The minute they allowed the first Negro on the jury is was certain the officer was never going to get a fair trial.

The Negroes learned a great lesson.

All they have to do is burn, loot, riot and murder and the White Guilt pukes and stupid Moon Bats will give them anything they want. Hell the sonofabitches got trillions in the Covid bills. Trillion more coming.

Shame on America!

Fuck you & your “Negro/Darkie/Shithead” crap - F’n racist asshole :rolleyes:
Poke a conservative, find a racist.

Meanwhile in Virginia, you made sure this guy kept his job. Well done...

ralph-northam-racist-yearbook-photo-kkk-blackface.jpg
LOLOL

Now you're lying. What did I do to keep that guy in office?

You stayed silent and let the racist piece of shit skate.
Nothing I said or didn't say influenced a single vote. And I never voted for him.

You're truly out of your fucking mind, con. :cuckoo:

As long as you keep quiet about the Klansman, they're happy with you. Well done, boy.
LOL

You're fucked in the head, con. What have you said about that guy?

I railed against him constantly. You kept your mouth shut like a good boy. Might as well have sucked his KKK dick. Good boy.
LOLOL

So you rail against him and you failed to get him out of office. Sounds like you're a loser.

At least I tried. You just kept quiet, got on your knees, and opened your mouth for that KKK dick. Good boy.
And you failed miserably. Even worse for you, you even admitted I'm more of a man than you.

Sucks to be you. :lmao:

Hey, there's another Democrat KKK guy over there, go get on your knees and open wide. Good boy!
LOL

That must be your thing; I'm more man than you. You said so yourself. :lmao:

You literally said I could do what you failed miserably to accomplish. You said that jackass is still in office because I said nothing, as though I would have gotten him out of office. At the same time, you admitted you couldn't get him out of office despite trying g "constantly."

That makes me better than you. You may now bow down to me, peon.

Yes, we all know now that you support the KKK. No need to keep reiterating it. In the meantime, I think the klan convention is in town, so your mouth is going to be very, very busy. Get to work, boy.
LOLOL

Nazi's and KKK are your guys...

 

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GUILTY! GUILTY! GUILTY!

Cops have been put on notice. Your brothers and sisters in blue will speak against you if you don't follow the law.


actually, it was the police chief....

What do these idiots think is going to happen now? Do they think the cops are actually going to put their necks on the line for assholes who live in this city?

If you live there, you better move...before the housing market goes crazy with sales.........normal people will be leaving....and only victims will remain...


The next time someone calls the police and says there is a drugged out thug in the store passing phoney $20 bills the cops will just "take care of it yourself".
 

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GUILTY! GUILTY! GUILTY!

Cops have been put on notice. Your brothers and sisters in blue will speak against you if you don't follow the law.


actually, it was the police chief....

What do these idiots think is going to happen now? Do they think the cops are actually going to put their necks on the line for assholes who live in this city?

If you live there, you better move...before the housing market goes crazy with sales.........normal people will be leaving....and only victims will remain...
Yes, police will continue doing their job. What is almost certain is that you won't see any more cops kneeling on a perp's neck for almost 10 minutes.
 
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Even Fox News is saying he was guilty.
Well he is...sadly it will be overturned on appeal due to the comments by the Dems...Mad Max especially....we'll have to do it all again...
Hopefully not.
I woudn't be surprised if the DA offers a plea then....folks forget that early on he was willing to plea to the 3rd Degree Murder charge. But at the time the DA didn't think that was enough.
LOL

The DA won. Why on Earth would they offer a deal??
Instead of putting the family, city and taxpayers through another jury trial....moreover you never know what a second jury would do
Who says there's gonna be another trial? It's not a slam dunk Waters will cause one.
I said there was...and you responded...I thought that was what we were talking about
Sorry, my bad. I thought you meant Waters would cause another trial.

At any rate, there are no deals coming. DA's don't have to make deals after they win.
I will add that there is still hope for a Chauvin deal as slim as it is. It would work like this: Chauvin appeals. The appellate courts find a mistrial. The state does not want to go through another trial. They offer a plea to avoid a retrial. Very slim chance that the state would agree to a plea bargain rather than a retrial even in the event of a mistrial ruling, but not out of the realm of possibility either.

It would be tough. The knowledge that you people will riot and destroy more black peoples' property is a strong deterrent to the justice system working as it's designed.
and with a powerful Congresswoman making the threat...that's very real....now I think the jury was sequestered by the time Xiden and Nancy backed her up on her calls for violence....but still, her threats alone could be enough to reverse the verdict and order a new trial. If the Appeals Court doesn't, tragically I think this conviction will be tainted by Mad Max's threats
It's only tainted if the jury heard what she said.
and we won't have any idea for sure.
No, we don't. That's why I said a mistrial is not the slam dunk some here seem to think it is.
A mistrial is out the window on appeal....the Court looks to see if their is reversable error...and remains for a new trial. That's not the same, or the same standard as a mistrial, which happens during trial

Let's ask legal expert DrLove, who thinks the defense can ask for an "appeal to dismiss" before the trial is over. LOL!

Would “mistrial” work better than “dismissal” loon? They essentially work in the same manner you know (well actually, you don’t ;-)
 

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The minute they allowed the first Negro on the jury is was certain the officer was never going to get a fair trial.

The Negroes learned a great lesson.

All they have to do is burn, loot, riot and murder and the White Guilt pukes and stupid Moon Bats will give them anything they want. Hell the sonofabitches got trillions in the Covid bills. Trillion more coming.

Shame on America!

Fuck you & your “Negro/Darkie/Shithead” crap - F’n racist asshole :rolleyes:
Poke a conservative, find a racist.

Meanwhile in Virginia, you made sure this guy kept his job. Well done...

ralph-northam-racist-yearbook-photo-kkk-blackface.jpg
LOLOL

Now you're lying. What did I do to keep that guy in office?

You stayed silent and let the racist piece of shit skate.
Nothing I said or didn't say influenced a single vote. And I never voted for him.

You're truly out of your fucking mind, con. :cuckoo:

As long as you keep quiet about the Klansman, they're happy with you. Well done, boy.
LOL

You're fucked in the head, con. What have you said about that guy?

I railed against him constantly. You kept your mouth shut like a good boy. Might as well have sucked his KKK dick. Good boy.

You did no such thing. But lying is like breathing to your pathetically stupid ass. ;)
The minute they allowed the first Negro on the jury is was certain the officer was never going to get a fair trial.

The Negroes learned a great lesson.

All they have to do is burn, loot, riot and murder and the White Guilt pukes and stupid Moon Bats will give them anything they want. Hell the sonofabitches got trillions in the Covid bills. Trillion more coming.

Shame on America!

Fuck you & your “Negro/Darkie/Shithead” crap - F’n racist asshole :rolleyes:
Poke a conservative, find a racist.

Meanwhile in Virginia, you made sure this guy kept his job. Well done...

ralph-northam-racist-yearbook-photo-kkk-blackface.jpg
LOLOL

Now you're lying. What did I do to keep that guy in office?

You stayed silent and let the racist piece of shit skate.
Nothing I said or didn't say influenced a single vote. And I never voted for him.

You're truly out of your fucking mind, con. :cuckoo:

As long as you keep quiet about the Klansman, they're happy with you. Well done, boy.
LOL

You're fucked in the head, con. What have you said about that guy?

I railed against him constantly. You kept your mouth shut like a good boy. Might as well have sucked his KKK dick. Good boy.
LOLOL

So you rail against him and you failed to get him out of office. Sounds like you're a loser.

At least I tried. You just kept quiet, got on your knees, and opened your mouth for that KKK dick. Good boy.
And you failed miserably. Even worse for you, you even admitted I'm more of a man than you.

Sucks to be you. :lmao:

Hey, there's another Democrat KKK guy over there, go get on your knees and open wide. Good boy!
LOL

That must be your thing; I'm more man than you. You said so yourself. :lmao:

You literally said I could do what you failed miserably to accomplish. You said that jackass is still in office because I said nothing, as though I would have gotten him out of office. At the same time, you admitted you couldn't get him out of office despite trying g "constantly."

That makes me better than you. You may now bow down to me, peon.

Yes, we all know now that you support the KKK. No need to keep reiterating it. In the meantime, I think the klan convention is in town, so your mouth is going to be very, very busy. Get to work, boy.

Marvin - What in the holy fuck is wrong with you? I’m serious. I know a nice lady I bet could help. She’s a PhD and entirely apolitical. Say the word and I’ll give you her digits. Bet she’d do first 1/2 hour consultation for free.

You seem perturbed that I'm pointing out the fact that you do nothing to rid your party of KKK members. In fact, you support them enthusiastically, don't you? Or, can you show me a post of yours criticizing Northam and calling for his ouster?
 

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This soon should be excellent news for the prosecution but we shall see!



I didn't expect to get the verdict so soon or guilty on all charges.

I'm glad to see justice happen for once.

I hope it continues to happen with these police who kill people who are no threat to the police or anyone else.
 

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A lynch mob has been appeased and it's a great day?

You're just whining when our legal system doesn't support what you want.

Would you like a tissue? :itsok:

So, you can no longer racist. Is it?

That didn't make sense. I suggest you compose yourself. I know you're upset.

The system is no longer racist. Right?...lol

I didn't say anything about race. You did.
 

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Even Fox News is saying he was guilty.
Well he is...sadly it will be overturned on appeal due to the comments by the Dems...Mad Max especially....we'll have to do it all again...
Hopefully not.
I woudn't be surprised if the DA offers a plea then....folks forget that early on he was willing to plea to the 3rd Degree Murder charge. But at the time the DA didn't think that was enough.
LOL

The DA won. Why on Earth would they offer a deal??
Instead of putting the family, city and taxpayers through another jury trial....moreover you never know what a second jury would do
Who says there's gonna be another trial? It's not a slam dunk Waters will cause one.
I said there was...and you responded...I thought that was what we were talking about
Sorry, my bad. I thought you meant Waters would cause another trial.

At any rate, there are no deals coming. DA's don't have to make deals after they win.
That's what I said...as the Judge said, Water threats of violence if the their wasn't a guilty verdict could lead to a new trial...at which time I could see the DA offering a deal.

Obvoiusly, they won't offer a deal until that happens
"Could."

We'll see. To prevail, the defense has to prove the jury was tainted by Waters' threats.
well no they don't have to prove that. They simply have to show that the jury could have been tainted by her threats of violence. They don't actually have to have testimony from the jurors.
Uh, no, they have to have evidence of jury tampering. Otherwise, every trial would end in mistrial... uh, your Honor, CNN ran a story about my client... mistrial now!
I never said anything about jury tampering. Jury tampering is a crime. An appealable issue, and one that can reverse a trial or somethign in the case doesn't have to be a crime.

This isn't merely a news network running a story...but if a juror did watch the story, it could grounds for a mistrial.

Mad Max threatened violence, in a city that has been torn by riots, if the jurors didn't return a certain verdict.
You're right, "jury tampering" is a crime and the wrong term. They still have to offer some evidence the jury was influenced by it. At this time, I don't know they have any evidence anyone on the jury even heard what she said. I didn't watch the trial but I'd be surprised if the jury [edit: wasn't] instructed from the beginning to avoid the news.
They do not have to prove the jury actually heard it. They don't have to get disposition from jury members. Jurors don't have to talk at all. They only have to show that they could have been
Not true. It's a court of law. Of course evidence is needed. On what grounds could they possibly win an appeal if they can't show Waters' moronic words tainted the jury? The judge already dismissed their motion for a mistrial. Their only chance now is at the appellate courts
it’s an appeals court. They don’t bring in new evidence. They use the record. They Court find the Court errored in not grant ring a mistrial and reserve, thus giving a new trial.
 

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Quick verdict. Looks like Nig-Nog celebration day.
Have to wait for an appeal for a mistrial.


The Nig-Nogs will get their asses kissed today.

Stay classy, Trumpsters.


The US has lost its class pandering to the Black scum. The officer did nothing wrong dealing with this street thug and he is being lynched because of racial hatred from the Negroes. Shame!
The only scum is the racist right.
 

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Even Fox News is saying he was guilty.
Well he is...sadly it will be overturned on appeal due to the comments by the Dems...Mad Max especially....we'll have to do it all again...
Hopefully not.
I woudn't be surprised if the DA offers a plea then....folks forget that early on he was willing to plea to the 3rd Degree Murder charge. But at the time the DA didn't think that was enough.
LOL

The DA won. Why on Earth would they offer a deal??
Instead of putting the family, city and taxpayers through another jury trial....moreover you never know what a second jury would do
Who says there's gonna be another trial? It's not a slam dunk Waters will cause one.
I said there was...and you responded...I thought that was what we were talking about
Sorry, my bad. I thought you meant Waters would cause another trial.

At any rate, there are no deals coming. DA's don't have to make deals after they win.
I will add that there is still hope for a Chauvin deal as slim as it is. It would work like this: Chauvin appeals. The appellate courts find a mistrial. The state does not want to go through another trial. They offer a plea to avoid a retrial. Very slim chance that the state would agree to a plea bargain rather than a retrial even in the event of a mistrial ruling, but not out of the realm of possibility either.

It would be tough. The knowledge that you people will riot and destroy more black peoples' property is a strong deterrent to the justice system working as it's designed.
and with a powerful Congresswoman making the threat...that's very real....now I think the jury was sequestered by the time Xiden and Nancy backed her up on her calls for violence....but still, her threats alone could be enough to reverse the verdict and order a new trial. If the Appeals Court doesn't, tragically I think this conviction will be tainted by Mad Max's threats
It's only tainted if the jury heard what she said.
and we won't have any idea for sure.
No, we don't. That's why I said a mistrial is not the slam dunk some here seem to think it is.
A mistrial is out the window on appeal....the Court looks to see if their is reversable error...and remains for a new trial. That's not the same, or the same standard as a mistrial, which happens during trial

Let's ask legal expert DrLove, who thinks the defense can ask for an "appeal to dismiss" before the trial is over. LOL!

Would “mistrial” work better than “dismissal” loon? They essentially work in the same manner you know (well actually, you don’t ;-)
if the case was dismissed they couldn’t retry the case. They don’t work the same at all
 

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And....you didn't watch the trial........it should have been not guilty on all charges. Floyd had 3 blocked coronary arteries, had over 3X the lethal dose of fentanyl in his system and had meth in his system as well...

And ruled a homicide.

Like I've been telling you and like you've failed to explain.

If you would have bothered to understand what the medical examiner said, then you might not be as surprised as you are now.
 
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seem perturbed that I'm pointing out the fact that you do nothing to rid your party of KKK members. In fact, you support them enthusiastically, don't you? Or, can you show me a post of yours criticizing Northam and calling for his ouster?

I feel bad for you man -
This thread is about the Floyd verdict.
Not Northam, not Obama, not Biden, not Psaki & definitely not the KKK.
Please let me know when/ if you are willing to help yourself.
You can PM me if that moment ever comes..
Until then, go fuck yourself. ;)
 
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Even Fox News is saying he was guilty.
Well he is...sadly it will be overturned on appeal due to the comments by the Dems...Mad Max especially....we'll have to do it all again...
Hopefully not.
I woudn't be surprised if the DA offers a plea then....folks forget that early on he was willing to plea to the 3rd Degree Murder charge. But at the time the DA didn't think that was enough.
LOL

The DA won. Why on Earth would they offer a deal??
Instead of putting the family, city and taxpayers through another jury trial....moreover you never know what a second jury would do
Who says there's gonna be another trial? It's not a slam dunk Waters will cause one.
I said there was...and you responded...I thought that was what we were talking about
Sorry, my bad. I thought you meant Waters would cause another trial.

At any rate, there are no deals coming. DA's don't have to make deals after they win.
That's what I said...as the Judge said, Water threats of violence if the their wasn't a guilty verdict could lead to a new trial...at which time I could see the DA offering a deal.

Obvoiusly, they won't offer a deal until that happens
"Could."

We'll see. To prevail, the defense has to prove the jury was tainted by Waters' threats.
well no they don't have to prove that. They simply have to show that the jury could have been tainted by her threats of violence. They don't actually have to have testimony from the jurors.
Uh, no, they have to have evidence of jury tampering. Otherwise, every trial would end in mistrial... uh, your Honor, CNN ran a story about my client... mistrial now!
I never said anything about jury tampering. Jury tampering is a crime. An appealable issue, and one that can reverse a trial or somethign in the case doesn't have to be a crime.

This isn't merely a news network running a story...but if a juror did watch the story, it could grounds for a mistrial.

Mad Max threatened violence, in a city that has been torn by riots, if the jurors didn't return a certain verdict.
You're right, "jury tampering" is a crime and the wrong term. They still have to offer some evidence the jury was influenced by it. At this time, I don't know they have any evidence anyone on the jury even heard what she said. I didn't watch the trial but I'd be surprised if the jury [edit: wasn't] instructed from the beginning to avoid the news.
They do not have to prove the jury actually heard it. They don't have to get disposition from jury members. Jurors don't have to talk at all. They only have to show that they could have been
Not true. It's a court of law. Of course evidence is needed. On what grounds could they possibly win an appeal if they can't show Waters' moronic words tainted the jury? The judge already dismissed their motion for a mistrial. Their only chance now is at the appellate courts
it’s an appeals court. They don’t bring in new evidence. They use the record. They Court find the Court errored in not grant ring a mistrial and reserve, thus giving a new trial.
I didn't say they do. But they do need evidence to win an appeal. By win an appeal, I mean to be granted one. They have to appeal on grounds that Waters' comments tainted the jury...

Grounds for Appeal

Potential grounds for appeal in a criminal case include legal error, juror misconduct and ineffective assistance of counsel. Legal errors may result from improperly admitted evidence, incorrect jury instructions, or lack of sufficient evidence to support a guilty verdict. To grant the appeal, the appellate court must find that these errors affected the outcome of the case. If the errors would not have changed the verdict, they are considered harmless, and the conviction will stand.

If they can't show the jury wasn't swayed by Waters, there's no reason they'll get an appeal. AR least not on those grounds.
 

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