Florist Sued for Refusing Service to Gay Couple Pens Defiant Letter Rejecting Gov’t Settlement Offer

[Redfish]

Obama Inc. Sues Trucking Company for Firing Muslim Drivers Who Refused to Deliver Alcohol

Be sure to read the comments on this loony blog.

The stupidity of RWs never ceases to amaze me. Or how many believe 'equality for all, except those you arbitrarily decide to hate'.

Just one question: why would a gay couple want to do business with a florist who does not approve of gay marriage? Why would they want to contribute to the profit of a business that does not approve of their lifestyle?

Try to answer honestly.

That's no more my business than their sexuality is but why would a business purposely discourage paying customers? That's also not my business.

What is the business of all of us is that our country supposedly stands for equality. More to the point, its the law.

Loony homophobes are welcome to their ignorant bigotry but they don't get to usurp that law.

You conveniently ignored my comment but here it is again:

The stupidity of RWs never ceases to amaze me. Or how many believe 'equality for all, except those you arbitrarily decide to hate'.

so a business owner has no freedom, only minorities have freedom? think about it, thats what you are saying.

I don't think that is what he is saying at all. If you open your business to the public, then you have to let the public in.

Yes, a better scenario would have been for the florist to tell them that she was totally booked up for that day, rather than refuse due to their gayness.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Be sure to read the comments on this loony blog.

The stupidity of RWs never ceases to amaze me. Or how many believe 'equality for all, except those you arbitrarily decide to hate'.

Just one question: why would a gay couple want to do business with a florist who does not approve of gay marriage? Why would they want to contribute to the profit of a business that does not approve of their lifestyle?

Try to answer honestly.

That's no more my business than their sexuality is but why would a business purposely discourage paying customers? That's also not my business.

What is the business of all of us is that our country supposedly stands for equality. More to the point, its the law.

Loony homophobes are welcome to their ignorant bigotry but they don't get to usurp that law.

You conveniently ignored my comment but here it is again:

The stupidity of RWs never ceases to amaze me. Or how many believe 'equality for all, except those you arbitrarily decide to hate'.

so a business owner has no freedom, only minorities have freedom? think about it, thats what you are saying.

I don't think that is what he is saying at all. If you open your business to the public, then you have to let the public in.

Yes, a better scenario would have been for the florist to tell them that she was totally booked up for that day, rather than refuse due to their gayness.

Sure, cuz christians lie, right?

 

[Redfish]

Obama Inc. Sues Trucking Company for Firing Muslim Drivers Who Refused to Deliver Alcohol

Be sure to read the comments on this loony blog.

The stupidity of RWs never ceases to amaze me. Or how many believe 'equality for all, except those you arbitrarily decide to hate'.

Just one question: why would a gay couple want to do business with a florist who does not approve of gay marriage? Why would they want to contribute to the profit of a business that does not approve of their lifestyle?

Try to answer honestly.

That's no more my business than their sexuality is but why would a business purposely discourage paying customers? That's also not my business.

What is the business of all of us is that our country supposedly stands for equality. More to the point, its the law.

Loony homophobes are welcome to their ignorant bigotry but they don't get to usurp that law.

You conveniently ignored my comment but here it is again:

The stupidity of RWs never ceases to amaze me. Or how many believe 'equality for all, except those you arbitrarily decide to hate'.

so a business owner has no freedom, only minorities have freedom? think about it, thats what you are saying.

You think a business owner should be able to pick and choose which laws he/she will obey? And if he decides not to obey a law, he should get a pass?

please quote the state or federal statute that says that florists must provide their services to gay couples.

There are bars in the 9th ward of New Orleans that do not serve whites, but I have no desire to go there and buy a beer. Should I force them to sell to me? Why?

 

[Redfish]

Just one question: why would a gay couple want to do business with a florist who does not approve of gay marriage? Why would they want to contribute to the profit of a business that does not approve of their lifestyle?

Try to answer honestly.

That's no more my business than their sexuality is but why would a business purposely discourage paying customers? That's also not my business.

What is the business of all of us is that our country supposedly stands for equality. More to the point, its the law.

Loony homophobes are welcome to their ignorant bigotry but they don't get to usurp that law.

You conveniently ignored my comment but here it is again:

The stupidity of RWs never ceases to amaze me. Or how many believe 'equality for all, except those you arbitrarily decide to hate'.

so a business owner has no freedom, only minorities have freedom? think about it, thats what you are saying.

I don't think that is what he is saying at all. If you open your business to the public, then you have to let the public in.

Yes, a better scenario would have been for the florist to tell them that she was totally booked up for that day, rather than refuse due to their gayness.

Sure, cuz christians lie, right?

everyone lies. it has nothing to do with religion. are obama's lies based on religion? oops, well maybe they are since islam permits lying to further the goals of islam.

 

[PratchettFan]

So from the story you guys quoted-

But, under the new proposal, drivers who decline to provide service would face a 30-day suspension of their license. Second offenders would have their licenses revoked.

so they've told these Muslims, despite your religion, you have to take the drunk with his "Service Dog" which is just his regular dog with a sweater that says "Service dog".

Which is reasonably fair.

Just like it's reasonably fair to require florist and bakers to service gay weddings.

Obama Inc. Sues Trucking Company for Firing Muslim Drivers Who Refused to Deliver Alcohol

Be sure to read the comments on this loony blog.

The stupidity of RWs never ceases to amaze me. Or how many believe 'equality for all, except those you arbitrarily decide to hate'.

Just one question: why would a gay couple want to do business with a florist who does not approve of gay marriage? Why would they want to contribute to the profit of a business that does not approve of their lifestyle?

Try to answer honestly.

They had not been refused before that. They probably don't care if someone does not approve, they only cared when they were being discriminated against. Of course, that's just a guess on my part - not knowing them.

Ok, dude. I am a white cajun male. If I go up to Harlem and a black owned barbeque place refuses to sell me a rack or ribs because they don't like cajuns, I will just flip them off and go to another place to eat.

Why would I want to give my business to someone who does not like me?

you libs have this gay rights thing stuck up your ass. (bad analogy)

That is your choice. No one is going to hold a gun to your head to force you to do otherwise. But if they did that, they would be in violation of the law and you might want to stand up for your rights as a citizen. But again, no one is forcing you to stand up.

 

[PratchettFan]

Be sure to read the comments on this loony blog.

The stupidity of RWs never ceases to amaze me. Or how many believe 'equality for all, except those you arbitrarily decide to hate'.

Just one question: why would a gay couple want to do business with a florist who does not approve of gay marriage? Why would they want to contribute to the profit of a business that does not approve of their lifestyle?

Try to answer honestly.

That's no more my business than their sexuality is but why would a business purposely discourage paying customers? That's also not my business.

What is the business of all of us is that our country supposedly stands for equality. More to the point, its the law.

Loony homophobes are welcome to their ignorant bigotry but they don't get to usurp that law.

You conveniently ignored my comment but here it is again:

The stupidity of RWs never ceases to amaze me. Or how many believe 'equality for all, except those you arbitrarily decide to hate'.

so a business owner has no freedom, only minorities have freedom? think about it, thats what you are saying.

I don't think that is what he is saying at all. If you open your business to the public, then you have to let the public in.

Yes, a better scenario would have been for the florist to tell them that she was totally booked up for that day, rather than refuse due to their gayness.

Or not violate the law, or open your business in a state that doesn't make it illegal. This issue is, after all, about state's rights. Is it not?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Be sure to read the comments on this loony blog.

The stupidity of RWs never ceases to amaze me. Or how many believe 'equality for all, except those you arbitrarily decide to hate'.

Just one question: why would a gay couple want to do business with a florist who does not approve of gay marriage? Why would they want to contribute to the profit of a business that does not approve of their lifestyle?

Try to answer honestly.

That's no more my business than their sexuality is but why would a business purposely discourage paying customers? That's also not my business.

What is the business of all of us is that our country supposedly stands for equality. More to the point, its the law.

Loony homophobes are welcome to their ignorant bigotry but they don't get to usurp that law.

You conveniently ignored my comment but here it is again:

The stupidity of RWs never ceases to amaze me. Or how many believe 'equality for all, except those you arbitrarily decide to hate'.

so a business owner has no freedom, only minorities have freedom? think about it, thats what you are saying.

You think a business owner should be able to pick and choose which laws he/she will obey? And if he decides not to obey a law, he should get a pass?

please quote the state or federal statute that says that florists must provide their services to gay couples.

There are bars in the 9th ward of New Orleans that do not serve whites, but I have no desire to go there and buy a beer. Should I force them to sell to me? Why?

No.

You're the one saying that businesses should be able to discriminate based on their religious beliefs. Post the EXACT law that says that.

Then post the EXACT names of the "bars in the 9th ward of New Orleans that do not serve whites" as well as the law that allows them to do that.

 

[dblack]

Gays cannot discriminate against Christians. And no one has said they should be able to do so.

I have.

 

[PratchettFan]

Be sure to read the comments on this loony blog.

The stupidity of RWs never ceases to amaze me. Or how many believe 'equality for all, except those you arbitrarily decide to hate'.

Just one question: why would a gay couple want to do business with a florist who does not approve of gay marriage? Why would they want to contribute to the profit of a business that does not approve of their lifestyle?

Try to answer honestly.

That's no more my business than their sexuality is but why would a business purposely discourage paying customers? That's also not my business.

What is the business of all of us is that our country supposedly stands for equality. More to the point, its the law.

Loony homophobes are welcome to their ignorant bigotry but they don't get to usurp that law.

You conveniently ignored my comment but here it is again:

The stupidity of RWs never ceases to amaze me. Or how many believe 'equality for all, except those you arbitrarily decide to hate'.

so a business owner has no freedom, only minorities have freedom? think about it, thats what you are saying.

You think a business owner should be able to pick and choose which laws he/she will obey? And if he decides not to obey a law, he should get a pass?

please quote the state or federal statute that says that florists must provide their services to gay couples.

There are bars in the 9th ward of New Orleans that do not serve whites, but I have no desire to go there and buy a beer. Should I force them to sell to me? Why?

I'm pretty sure the laws of Louisiana don't apply to this case. But yeah, if you feel it is wrong they won't serve you then you should stand up and do something about it.

 

[Freewill]

Here is what is probably going to happen at least in some cases.

Those who do not wish to service Gay weddings will simply get lost on their way to deliver the flowers. Or they will get sick. Or something to the effect. What this really does is turn some people against gays for forcing their religion upon them. I see nothing good coming from such law suits.

 

[bodecea]

Here is what is probably going to happen at least in some cases.

Those who do not wish to service Gay weddings will simply get lost on their way to deliver the flowers. Or they will get sick. Or something to the effect. What this really does is turn some people against gays for forcing their religion upon them. I see nothing good coming from such law suits.

Of course...because that's how they roll.

 

[Redfish]

Obama Inc. Sues Trucking Company for Firing Muslim Drivers Who Refused to Deliver Alcohol

Be sure to read the comments on this loony blog.

The stupidity of RWs never ceases to amaze me. Or how many believe 'equality for all, except those you arbitrarily decide to hate'.

Just one question: why would a gay couple want to do business with a florist who does not approve of gay marriage? Why would they want to contribute to the profit of a business that does not approve of their lifestyle?

Try to answer honestly.

They had not been refused before that. They probably don't care if someone does not approve, they only cared when they were being discriminated against. Of course, that's just a guess on my part - not knowing them.

Ok, dude. I am a white cajun male. If I go up to Harlem and a black owned barbeque place refuses to sell me a rack or ribs because they don't like cajuns, I will just flip them off and go to another place to eat.

Why would I want to give my business to someone who does not like me?

you libs have this gay rights thing stuck up your ass. (bad analogy)

That is your choice. No one is going to hold a gun to your head to force you to do otherwise. But if they did that, they would be in violation of the law and you might want to stand up for your rights as a citizen. But again, no one is forcing you to stand up.

I ask again, why are the gays making a big deal of this? why not just do their business with a florist who approves of them marrying? Last time I checked, there were a lot of gay florists.

 

[Mac1958]

Here is what is probably going to happen at least in some cases.

Those who do not wish to service Gay weddings will simply get lost on their way to deliver the flowers. Or they will get sick. Or something to the effect. What this really does is turn some people against gays for forcing their religion upon them. I see nothing good coming from such law suits.

It's human nature to not want to do something that is against our belief system, and it's human nature for a person's resolve to increase when this happens.

These people know this, they know they're making things worse by forcing these people to bend to their will.

But they don't care, because their will to intimidate and control is stronger than their interest in changing hearts and minds.

.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

That's no more my business than their sexuality is but why would a business purposely discourage paying customers? That's also not my business.

What is the business of all of us is that our country supposedly stands for equality. More to the point, its the law.

Loony homophobes are welcome to their ignorant bigotry but they don't get to usurp that law.

You conveniently ignored my comment but here it is again:

The stupidity of RWs never ceases to amaze me. Or how many believe 'equality for all, except those you arbitrarily decide to hate'.

so a business owner has no freedom, only minorities have freedom? think about it, thats what you are saying.

I don't think that is what he is saying at all. If you open your business to the public, then you have to let the public in.

Yes, a better scenario would have been for the florist to tell them that she was totally booked up for that day, rather than refuse due to their gayness.

Sure, cuz christians lie, right?

everyone lies. it has nothing to do with religion. are obama's lies based on religion? oops, well maybe they are since islam permits lying to further the goals of islam.

"everyone lies" ?????????????

THAT's your excuse for christians lying?

And then you add a couple of your own LIES to prove your point????

 

[Freewill]

Here is what is probably going to happen at least in some cases.

Those who do not wish to service Gay weddings will simply get lost on their way to deliver the flowers. Or they will get sick. Or something to the effect. What this really does is turn some people against gays for forcing their religion upon them. I see nothing good coming from such law suits.

Of course...because that's how they roll.

Given no other choice.

 

[Redfish]

Just one question: why would a gay couple want to do business with a florist who does not approve of gay marriage? Why would they want to contribute to the profit of a business that does not approve of their lifestyle?

Try to answer honestly.

That's no more my business than their sexuality is but why would a business purposely discourage paying customers? That's also not my business.

What is the business of all of us is that our country supposedly stands for equality. More to the point, its the law.

Loony homophobes are welcome to their ignorant bigotry but they don't get to usurp that law.

You conveniently ignored my comment but here it is again:

The stupidity of RWs never ceases to amaze me. Or how many believe 'equality for all, except those you arbitrarily decide to hate'.

so a business owner has no freedom, only minorities have freedom? think about it, thats what you are saying.

You think a business owner should be able to pick and choose which laws he/she will obey? And if he decides not to obey a law, he should get a pass?

please quote the state or federal statute that says that florists must provide their services to gay couples.

There are bars in the 9th ward of New Orleans that do not serve whites, but I have no desire to go there and buy a beer. Should I force them to sell to me? Why?

I'm pretty sure the laws of Louisiana don't apply to this case. But yeah, if you feel it is wrong they won't serve you then you should stand up and do something about it.

I asked you to cite the statutes that applied in this case, guess you can't do that.

Why would I want to force a black bar to serve me? What would I gain by doing that? maybe a gunshot or a knife in the gut. So I force them to serve me, a fight starts, people get hurt, the cops come and arrest a bunch of people, the bar owner loses his business. All because I chose to be an asshole?

The whole gay agenda is just foolish, it is hurting the gay cause much more than helping it.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Here is what is probably going to happen at least in some cases.

Those who do not wish to service Gay weddings will simply get lost on their way to deliver the flowers. Or they will get sick. Or something to the effect. What this really does is turn some people against gays for forcing their religion upon them. I see nothing good coming from such law suits.

Another poster who thinks the christians will just lie their way out of breaking the law.

And this line makes no sense:

"What this really does is turn some people against gays for forcing their religion upon them."

Last I knew, being gay was not a religion.

 

[Freewill]

From the Washington state consitution:

SECTION 11 RELIGIOUS FREEDOM. Absolute freedom of conscience in all matters of religious sentiment, belief and worship, shall be guaranteed to every individual, and no one shall be molested or disturbed in person or property on account of religion; but the liberty of conscience hereby secured shall not be so construed as to excuse acts of licentiousness or justify practices inconsistent with the peace and safety of the state. No public money or property shall be appropriated for or applied to any religious worship, exercise or instruction, or the support of any religious establishment: PROVIDED, HOWEVER, That this article shall not be so construed as to forbid the employment by the state of a chaplain for such of the state custodial, correctional, and mental institutions, or by a county's or public hospital district's hospital, health care facility, or hospice, as in the discretion of the legislature may seem justified. No religious qualification shall be required for any public office or employment, nor shall any person be incompetent as a witness or juror, in consequence of his opinion on matters of religion, nor be questioned in any court of justice touching his religious belief to affect the weight of his testimony. [AMENDMENT 88, 1993 House Joint Resolution No. 4200, p 3062. Approved November 2, 1993.]

Laws and Agency Rules Washington State Constitution

How does the courts ruling jive with the state constitution?

 

[Redfish]

so a business owner has no freedom, only minorities have freedom? think about it, thats what you are saying.

I don't think that is what he is saying at all. If you open your business to the public, then you have to let the public in.

Yes, a better scenario would have been for the florist to tell them that she was totally booked up for that day, rather than refuse due to their gayness.

Sure, cuz christians lie, right?

everyone lies. it has nothing to do with religion. are obama's lies based on religion? oops, well maybe they are since islam permits lying to further the goals of islam.

"everyone lies" ?????????????

THAT's your excuse for christians lying?

And then you add a couple of your own LIES to prove your point????

everyone does lie, including your president. Nothing in my post is a lie. Here it is again.

"everyone lies. it has nothing to do with religion. are obama's lies based on religion? oops, well maybe they are since islam permits lying to further the goals of islam."

tell us what is a lie.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Here is what is probably going to happen at least in some cases.

Those who do not wish to service Gay weddings will simply get lost on their way to deliver the flowers. Or they will get sick. Or something to the effect. What this really does is turn some people against gays for forcing their religion upon them. I see nothing good coming from such law suits.

It's human nature to not want to do something that is against our belief system, and it's human nature for a person's resolve to increase when this happens.

These people know this, they know they're making things worse by forcing these people to bend to their will.

But they don't care, because their will to intimidate and control is stronger than their interest in changing hearts and minds.

.

So you're saying the "christians" will do whatever they need to in order to "intimidate and control".

Well, they're certainly not following the teachings of Jesus.