Florist Sued for Refusing Service to Gay Couple Pens Defiant Letter Rejecting Gov’t Settlement Offer

[koshergrl]

"“The message of these rulings is unmistakable: The government will bring about your personal and professional ruin if you don’t help celebrate same-sex marriage,” Kristen Waggoner, a lawyer for the alliance, said...“The attorney general’s targeting of Barronelle was unprecedented,” Waggoner said. “He has had 18 months to end the threat to our client’s freedom and livelihood. It is interesting that this offer only materialized after his crusade to ruin this 70-year-old grandmother was exposed nationally.”

Florist who refused to do flowers for gay wedding to appeal KOIN.com

 

[koshergrl]

But celebrating heterosexual sex acts is okay. Just not homosexual marriage. And yet you don't understand that the refusal was based entirely on that fact. That's discrimination.

Yep. They've been serving two men who just didn't happen to be gay but were also living in sin.

It doesn't really get much more hypocritical.

You still can't force us to participate. You can gyrate all you want. It won't make any difference. At the end of the day..we won't be bringing the cake in or doing the flowers.

Please stop imagining me gyrating. I don't want any part in your fantasy life.

And btw, no one forced this woman to supply arrangements for weddings. She chose that option of her own free will.

Not to mention that your post did not change the fact of her epic hypocrisy.

She's being persecuted for opting out of creating art that celebrates and event she considers a sacrilegious desecration of a sacrament.

She didn't discriminate against anybody, she didn't toss anyone out of her shop. She didn't say "You can't buy flowers and take them to your event." She just said "I will not create special art for an event I object to on a religious basis."

She doesn't have to. And the left naturally will crucify her for it. You guys are good at crucifixion.

Her flowers are not integral to the event. They are not part of any sacrament, ritual, rite or worship. They are decorative, that's all.

She cannot hide behind her faith to rationalize her bad behavior. She is adopting the same tactics as the Taliban when she perverts her faith to discriminate.

In which case, her refusing to arrange them in no way restricts the freedom of the homos to celebrate their sexuality as they choose.

 

[koshergrl]

Actually, the Taliban employs the tactics YOU loons are using. They employ the state and the law to persecute those who have a different faith, and who fail to properly observe those disgusting practices they hold near and dear.

I'm afraid if we're going to bring the Taliban into it, you are the Taliban in this case.

 

[mdk]

And that's ok....because the Hobby Lobby ruling will also help businesses with other than christian rules to live by.

Good. It's you on the statist Left that are terrified of freedom, not us.

Freedom?!? Where's the freedom for homosexuals? How dare you cite "freedom" while defending everything but.

Nobody prevented them from doing anything. They're free.

They just aren't free to force people to create art to celebrate their sex acts.

What did they want the floral arrangements in shape of dicks or something? I suppose every flower arrangement for straight weddings is a celebration of missionary or something. Good god girl get a grip.

They wanted her to create and place flowers for a ceremony that she considers sacrilege.

You can't force people to commit sacrilege. It's essentially claiming "you must renounce God." Christians aren't going to do it. Get over it. You don't have to agree with it. You just can't do anything about it. Except what you are doing, which is disgusting.

I am not doing anything. I am actually opposed public to accommodation laws but until they get changed you do not get special exemptions to violate civil law. Muslim cabbies in Minnesota believed their deeply held religious beliefs were being violated b/c they had to accept fares from customers with booze, dogs, or drunks. They were told their faith wasn't an excuse to violate civil law. That of course was cheered as a slap against "creeping sharia" by social conservatives. When Christians attempt to use the same reasoning to violate civil law the story changes and people cry about religious freedoms being stripped away. Sorry, until the law changes, you have to follow it just like everyone else.

 

[Katzndogz]

But celebrating heterosexual sex acts is okay. Just not homosexual marriage. And yet you don't understand that the refusal was based entirely on that fact. That's discrimination.

Yep. They've been serving two men who just didn't happen to be gay but were also living in sin.

It doesn't really get much more hypocritical.

You still can't force us to participate. You can gyrate all you want. It won't make any difference. At the end of the day..we won't be bringing the cake in or doing the flowers.

Please stop imagining me gyrating. I don't want any part in your fantasy life.

And btw, no one forced this woman to supply arrangements for weddings. She chose that option of her own free will.

Not to mention that your post did not change the fact of her epic hypocrisy.

She's being persecuted for opting out of creating art that celebrates and event she considers a sacrilegious desecration of a sacrament.

She didn't discriminate against anybody, she didn't toss anyone out of her shop. She didn't say "You can't buy flowers and take them to your event." She just said "I will not create special art for an event I object to on a religious basis."

She doesn't have to. And the left naturally will crucify her for it. You guys are good at crucifixion.

Her flowers are not integral to the event. They are not part of any sacrament, ritual, rite or worship. They are decorative, that's all.

She cannot hide behind her faith to rationalize her bad behavior. She is adopting the same tactics as the Taliban when she perverts her faith to discriminate.

You are finding equality in floral arrangements and throwing people off the roofs of buildings. Are you sure you want to do that?

 

[Ravi]

Actually, the Taliban employs the tactics YOU loons are using. They employ the state and the law to persecute those who have a different faith, and who fail to properly observe those disgusting practices they hold near and dear.

I'm afraid if we're going to bring the Taliban into it, you are the Taliban in this case.

LOL! It's you that share's the Taliban's values.

And what makes you think the two men aren't Christian?

 

[mdk]

But celebrating heterosexual sex acts is okay. Just not homosexual marriage. And yet you don't understand that the refusal was based entirely on that fact. That's discrimination.

Yep. They've been serving two men who just didn't happen to be gay but were also living in sin.

It doesn't really get much more hypocritical.

You still can't force us to participate. You can gyrate all you want. It won't make any difference. At the end of the day..we won't be bringing the cake in or doing the flowers.

Please stop imagining me gyrating. I don't want any part in your fantasy life.

And btw, no one forced this woman to supply arrangements for weddings. She chose that option of her own free will.

Not to mention that your post did not change the fact of her epic hypocrisy.

She's being persecuted for opting out of creating art that celebrates and event she considers a sacrilegious desecration of a sacrament.

She didn't discriminate against anybody, she didn't toss anyone out of her shop. She didn't say "You can't buy flowers and take them to your event." She just said "I will not create special art for an event I object to on a religious basis."

She doesn't have to. And the left naturally will crucify her for it. You guys are good at crucifixion.

Her flowers are not integral to the event. They are not part of any sacrament, ritual, rite or worship. They are decorative, that's all.

She cannot hide behind her faith to rationalize her bad behavior. She is adopting the same tactics as the Taliban when she perverts her faith to discriminate.

Lets not go overboard mate.

 

[Nosmo King]

Yep. They've been serving two men who just didn't happen to be gay but were also living in sin.

It doesn't really get much more hypocritical.

You still can't force us to participate. You can gyrate all you want. It won't make any difference. At the end of the day..we won't be bringing the cake in or doing the flowers.

Please stop imagining me gyrating. I don't want any part in your fantasy life.

And btw, no one forced this woman to supply arrangements for weddings. She chose that option of her own free will.

Not to mention that your post did not change the fact of her epic hypocrisy.

She's being persecuted for opting out of creating art that celebrates and event she considers a sacrilegious desecration of a sacrament.

She didn't discriminate against anybody, she didn't toss anyone out of her shop. She didn't say "You can't buy flowers and take them to your event." She just said "I will not create special art for an event I object to on a religious basis."

She doesn't have to. And the left naturally will crucify her for it. You guys are good at crucifixion.

Her flowers are not integral to the event. They are not part of any sacrament, ritual, rite or worship. They are decorative, that's all.

She cannot hide behind her faith to rationalize her bad behavior. She is adopting the same tactics as the Taliban when she perverts her faith to discriminate.

In which case, her refusing to arrange them in no way restricts the freedom of the homos to celebrate their sexuality as they choose.

The couple wanted flowers. that's perfectly understandable. But, according to the tight ass florist, and you who are similarly tight assed, 'the homos' don't deserve flowers because of their lifestyle.

And you dare call yourself American. You should re-examine what being an American means.

 

[koshergrl]

Actually, the Taliban employs the tactics YOU loons are using. They employ the state and the law to persecute those who have a different faith, and who fail to properly observe those disgusting practices they hold near and dear.

I'm afraid if we're going to bring the Taliban into it, you are the Taliban in this case.

LOL! It's you that share's the Taliban's values.

And what makes you think the two men aren't Christian?

I have no idea if they're Christian or not. I don't care.
As I said. Using the law to persecute someone for their faith..that's puts you with the Taliban. And all the other well known statist killers of the past.

 

[Katzndogz]

It's taking steps and laying the foundation to putting artists like Jon McNaughton in prison.

 

[koshergrl]

You still can't force us to participate. You can gyrate all you want. It won't make any difference. At the end of the day..we won't be bringing the cake in or doing the flowers.

Please stop imagining me gyrating. I don't want any part in your fantasy life.

And btw, no one forced this woman to supply arrangements for weddings. She chose that option of her own free will.

Not to mention that your post did not change the fact of her epic hypocrisy.

She's being persecuted for opting out of creating art that celebrates and event she considers a sacrilegious desecration of a sacrament.

She didn't discriminate against anybody, she didn't toss anyone out of her shop. She didn't say "You can't buy flowers and take them to your event." She just said "I will not create special art for an event I object to on a religious basis."

She doesn't have to. And the left naturally will crucify her for it. You guys are good at crucifixion.

Her flowers are not integral to the event. They are not part of any sacrament, ritual, rite or worship. They are decorative, that's all.

She cannot hide behind her faith to rationalize her bad behavior. She is adopting the same tactics as the Taliban when she perverts her faith to discriminate.

In which case, her refusing to arrange them in no way restricts the freedom of the homos to celebrate their sexuality as they choose.

The couple wanted flowers. that's perfectly understandable. But, according to the tight ass florist, and you who are similarly tight assed, 'the homos' don't deserve flowers because of their lifestyle.

And you dare call yourself American. You should re-examine what being an American means.

American means not being persecuted for your faith. For not having to fear that your business will be shut down and you will be thrown in prison if you refuse to renounce your faith.

I know what being American is. It's freedom. You statist creeps belong in N. Korea, and I'm eternally hopeful that is where you'll end up.

 

[Katzndogz]

You still can't force us to participate. You can gyrate all you want. It won't make any difference. At the end of the day..we won't be bringing the cake in or doing the flowers.

Please stop imagining me gyrating. I don't want any part in your fantasy life.

And btw, no one forced this woman to supply arrangements for weddings. She chose that option of her own free will.

Not to mention that your post did not change the fact of her epic hypocrisy.

She's being persecuted for opting out of creating art that celebrates and event she considers a sacrilegious desecration of a sacrament.

She didn't discriminate against anybody, she didn't toss anyone out of her shop. She didn't say "You can't buy flowers and take them to your event." She just said "I will not create special art for an event I object to on a religious basis."

She doesn't have to. And the left naturally will crucify her for it. You guys are good at crucifixion.

Her flowers are not integral to the event. They are not part of any sacrament, ritual, rite or worship. They are decorative, that's all.

She cannot hide behind her faith to rationalize her bad behavior. She is adopting the same tactics as the Taliban when she perverts her faith to discriminate.

In which case, her refusing to arrange them in no way restricts the freedom of the homos to celebrate their sexuality as they choose.

The couple wanted flowers. that's perfectly understandable. But, according to the tight ass florist, and you who are similarly tight assed, 'the homos' don't deserve flowers because of their lifestyle.

And you dare call yourself American. You should re-examine what being an American means.

She never refused to sell them flowers and had sold them flowers many times in the past.

As an artist her artistic freedom should be absolute and unquestioned. She should be able to tell them she doesn't like their shoes or won't use the daisies that they want.

 

[Ravi]

Please stop imagining me gyrating. I don't want any part in your fantasy life.

And btw, no one forced this woman to supply arrangements for weddings. She chose that option of her own free will.

Not to mention that your post did not change the fact of her epic hypocrisy.

She's being persecuted for opting out of creating art that celebrates and event she considers a sacrilegious desecration of a sacrament.

She didn't discriminate against anybody, she didn't toss anyone out of her shop. She didn't say "You can't buy flowers and take them to your event." She just said "I will not create special art for an event I object to on a religious basis."

She doesn't have to. And the left naturally will crucify her for it. You guys are good at crucifixion.

Her flowers are not integral to the event. They are not part of any sacrament, ritual, rite or worship. They are decorative, that's all.

She cannot hide behind her faith to rationalize her bad behavior. She is adopting the same tactics as the Taliban when she perverts her faith to discriminate.

In which case, her refusing to arrange them in no way restricts the freedom of the homos to celebrate their sexuality as they choose.

The couple wanted flowers. that's perfectly understandable. But, according to the tight ass florist, and you who are similarly tight assed, 'the homos' don't deserve flowers because of their lifestyle.

And you dare call yourself American. You should re-examine what being an American means.

She never refused to sell them flowers and had sold them flowers many times in the past.

Yep. She sold flower arrangements to two gay men living in sin. Which by her own logic would be a sin.

 

[koshergrl]

She's being persecuted for opting out of creating art that celebrates and event she considers a sacrilegious desecration of a sacrament.

She didn't discriminate against anybody, she didn't toss anyone out of her shop. She didn't say "You can't buy flowers and take them to your event." She just said "I will not create special art for an event I object to on a religious basis."

She doesn't have to. And the left naturally will crucify her for it. You guys are good at crucifixion.

Her flowers are not integral to the event. They are not part of any sacrament, ritual, rite or worship. They are decorative, that's all.

She cannot hide behind her faith to rationalize her bad behavior. She is adopting the same tactics as the Taliban when she perverts her faith to discriminate.

In which case, her refusing to arrange them in no way restricts the freedom of the homos to celebrate their sexuality as they choose.

The couple wanted flowers. that's perfectly understandable. But, according to the tight ass florist, and you who are similarly tight assed, 'the homos' don't deserve flowers because of their lifestyle.

And you dare call yourself American. You should re-examine what being an American means.

She never refused to sell them flowers and had sold them flowers many times in the past.

Yep. She sold flower arrangements to two gay men living in sin. Which by her own logic would be a sin.

But not sacrilege.

See, marriage is a sacrament to Christians.

We talked about this already.
And you can't force us to denounce it, to claim it's not really a sacrament, or to participate in the disgusting defilement of a sacrament.

Get it yet?

I can keep doing this forever.

 

[Ravi]

Her flowers are not integral to the event. They are not part of any sacrament, ritual, rite or worship. They are decorative, that's all.

She cannot hide behind her faith to rationalize her bad behavior. She is adopting the same tactics as the Taliban when she perverts her faith to discriminate.

In which case, her refusing to arrange them in no way restricts the freedom of the homos to celebrate their sexuality as they choose.

The couple wanted flowers. that's perfectly understandable. But, according to the tight ass florist, and you who are similarly tight assed, 'the homos' don't deserve flowers because of their lifestyle.

And you dare call yourself American. You should re-examine what being an American means.

She never refused to sell them flowers and had sold them flowers many times in the past.

Yep. She sold flower arrangements to two gay men living in sin. Which by her own logic would be a sin.

But not sacrilege.

Oh right! Unmarried gay sex is not sacrilege.

 

[koshergrl]

In which case, her refusing to arrange them in no way restricts the freedom of the homos to celebrate their sexuality as they choose.

The couple wanted flowers. that's perfectly understandable. But, according to the tight ass florist, and you who are similarly tight assed, 'the homos' don't deserve flowers because of their lifestyle.

And you dare call yourself American. You should re-examine what being an American means.

She never refused to sell them flowers and had sold them flowers many times in the past.

Yep. She sold flower arrangements to two gay men living in sin. Which by her own logic would be a sin.

But not sacrilege.

Oh right! Unmarried gay sex is not sacrilege.

No, because ass sex isn't a sacrament.

 

[Nosmo King]

Please stop imagining me gyrating. I don't want any part in your fantasy life.

And btw, no one forced this woman to supply arrangements for weddings. She chose that option of her own free will.

Not to mention that your post did not change the fact of her epic hypocrisy.

She's being persecuted for opting out of creating art that celebrates and event she considers a sacrilegious desecration of a sacrament.

She didn't discriminate against anybody, she didn't toss anyone out of her shop. She didn't say "You can't buy flowers and take them to your event." She just said "I will not create special art for an event I object to on a religious basis."

She doesn't have to. And the left naturally will crucify her for it. You guys are good at crucifixion.

Her flowers are not integral to the event. They are not part of any sacrament, ritual, rite or worship. They are decorative, that's all.

She cannot hide behind her faith to rationalize her bad behavior. She is adopting the same tactics as the Taliban when she perverts her faith to discriminate.

In which case, her refusing to arrange them in no way restricts the freedom of the homos to celebrate their sexuality as they choose.

The couple wanted flowers. that's perfectly understandable. But, according to the tight ass florist, and you who are similarly tight assed, 'the homos' don't deserve flowers because of their lifestyle.

And you dare call yourself American. You should re-examine what being an American means.

American means not being persecuted for your faith. For not having to fear that your business will be shut down and you will be thrown in prison if you refuse to renounce your faith.

I know what being American is. It's freedom. You statist creeps belong in N. Korea, and I'm eternally hopeful that is where you'll end up.

There is no harm to her practice of her religion. She makes flowers, she is not expected to have anything further to do with that wedding than that. If she thinks it's a sin to create floral pieces for a same sex wedding, she should get out of the flower business, or obey the law.

 

[koshergrl]

She's being persecuted for opting out of creating art that celebrates and event she considers a sacrilegious desecration of a sacrament.

She didn't discriminate against anybody, she didn't toss anyone out of her shop. She didn't say "You can't buy flowers and take them to your event." She just said "I will not create special art for an event I object to on a religious basis."

She doesn't have to. And the left naturally will crucify her for it. You guys are good at crucifixion.

Her flowers are not integral to the event. They are not part of any sacrament, ritual, rite or worship. They are decorative, that's all.

She cannot hide behind her faith to rationalize her bad behavior. She is adopting the same tactics as the Taliban when she perverts her faith to discriminate.

In which case, her refusing to arrange them in no way restricts the freedom of the homos to celebrate their sexuality as they choose.

The couple wanted flowers. that's perfectly understandable. But, according to the tight ass florist, and you who are similarly tight assed, 'the homos' don't deserve flowers because of their lifestyle.

And you dare call yourself American. You should re-examine what being an American means.

American means not being persecuted for your faith. For not having to fear that your business will be shut down and you will be thrown in prison if you refuse to renounce your faith.

I know what being American is. It's freedom. You statist creeps belong in N. Korea, and I'm eternally hopeful that is where you'll end up.

There is no harm to her practice of her religion. She makes flowers, she is not expected to have anything further to do with that wedding than that. If she thinks it's a sin to create floral pieces for a same sex wedding, she should get out of the flower business, or obey the law.

Nope, she doesnt' have to create a work of art celebrating an event that signifies her endorsement of sacrilege.

It isn't going to happen.

 

[Katzndogz]

Please stop imagining me gyrating. I don't want any part in your fantasy life.

And btw, no one forced this woman to supply arrangements for weddings. She chose that option of her own free will.

Not to mention that your post did not change the fact of her epic hypocrisy.

She's being persecuted for opting out of creating art that celebrates and event she considers a sacrilegious desecration of a sacrament.

She didn't discriminate against anybody, she didn't toss anyone out of her shop. She didn't say "You can't buy flowers and take them to your event." She just said "I will not create special art for an event I object to on a religious basis."

She doesn't have to. And the left naturally will crucify her for it. You guys are good at crucifixion.

Her flowers are not integral to the event. They are not part of any sacrament, ritual, rite or worship. They are decorative, that's all.

She cannot hide behind her faith to rationalize her bad behavior. She is adopting the same tactics as the Taliban when she perverts her faith to discriminate.

In which case, her refusing to arrange them in no way restricts the freedom of the homos to celebrate their sexuality as they choose.

The couple wanted flowers. that's perfectly understandable. But, according to the tight ass florist, and you who are similarly tight assed, 'the homos' don't deserve flowers because of their lifestyle.

And you dare call yourself American. You should re-examine what being an American means.

American means not being persecuted for your faith. For not having to fear that your business will be shut down and you will be thrown in prison if you refuse to renounce your faith.

I know what being American is. It's freedom. You statist creeps belong in N. Korea, and I'm eternally hopeful that is where you'll end up.

Being an American today no more means freedom than it did to Egyptian slaves chained to rocks. If an artist does not have the freedom to create or not create there is no freedom. There is only permission.

 

[koshergrl]

She's being persecuted for opting out of creating art that celebrates and event she considers a sacrilegious desecration of a sacrament.

She didn't discriminate against anybody, she didn't toss anyone out of her shop. She didn't say "You can't buy flowers and take them to your event." She just said "I will not create special art for an event I object to on a religious basis."

She doesn't have to. And the left naturally will crucify her for it. You guys are good at crucifixion.

Her flowers are not integral to the event. They are not part of any sacrament, ritual, rite or worship. They are decorative, that's all.

She cannot hide behind her faith to rationalize her bad behavior. She is adopting the same tactics as the Taliban when she perverts her faith to discriminate.

In which case, her refusing to arrange them in no way restricts the freedom of the homos to celebrate their sexuality as they choose.

The couple wanted flowers. that's perfectly understandable. But, according to the tight ass florist, and you who are similarly tight assed, 'the homos' don't deserve flowers because of their lifestyle.

And you dare call yourself American. You should re-examine what being an American means.

American means not being persecuted for your faith. For not having to fear that your business will be shut down and you will be thrown in prison if you refuse to renounce your faith.

I know what being American is. It's freedom. You statist creeps belong in N. Korea, and I'm eternally hopeful that is where you'll end up.

Being an American today no more means freedom than it did to Egyptian slaves chained to rocks. If an artist does not have the freedom to create or not create there is no freedom. There is only permission.

Yes..but rest assured there will be a reckoning.