Florida AG calls for investigation into $16M Bloomberg donations to help felons vote

[Toro]

The law is pretty clear, and it seems Bloomberg broke it, time for an investigation.

He did not break the law because he isn't trying to influence anyone's vote. That's the law in question by statute.

Instead, they are trying to deny the franchise to people who have been legally given it by two-thirds of the Floridian population.

This is voter suppression at its worst. This is why minorities don't vote Republican.

 

[martybegan]

then I don't know what is.

Then you don’t know what corrupting influence is.

This is little more than thuggish intimidation to suppress votes by you and your party.

Wow, justifying buying votes by calling opposition to it thuggery.

You really have nothing, do you?

Let the investigation figure it out, oh wait you are afraid of the investigation so you call for it not to happen.

How is the hack life, Hacky McHack-Hack? Hackigowa Hackitori?

Fabricating accusations and alleging possible charges for legal actiis an attempt to dissuade those from voting out of fear and intimidation.

As you said, this only scares you because you believe these individuals are going to vote Democratic.

What fabricating? There is a distinct possibility he broke Florida Election laws, and you want to sweep it under the rug.

The only reason you support this is BECAUSE you think they will vote Democratic.

Hacky takes it up the ass doo-dah doo-dah
Hacky take it up the ass, all dee doo dah day.

No there’s not. Not with any information you’ve presented. Making these accusations is a corrupt attempt to scare people into not voting.

Thug.

Wow, talk about overreach. It's an investigation into a rich guy trying to buy votes for his candidate.

Anything else you say is spin.

Yes, and he’s being “investigated” for being a Biden supporter. Which as we know in your thug circles makes him suspicious.

Like you aren’t going to go after the people you’re accusing of accepting bribes. No one is that stupid.

He being investigated for paying people's debt off so they can vote. That may be against a specific Florida Election Law.

The only thug here is you, denying that an investigation should even take place, because you want your cock-buddy Biden to win regardless of the cost.

No predicate for an investigation.

Plenty of reasons to have one.

Only in the mind of corrupt thugs like yourself who want to criminalize political support of a candidate.

Nope, it's a valid question considering the wording of the election law referenced.

Ignoring it out of hand is just showing how much of a hack you are, Hackidan Hackwong.

What’s exposed is your ignorance of the language of the law.

I'm not the one ignoring the language, you are. The investigation will come to it's conclusions when completed.

Then it’s an investigation without a predicate based on political bias.

Thugs like you favor abusing government authority to swing an election. Putin would be proud.

It's an investigation into a matter of money being paid in exchange for voting rights, which leads to votes.

And btw, I got mild OCD AND hate your fucking guts so I can keep this up FOR FUCKING EVER.

But there’s no evidence that there is any agreement that the money is being exchanged for votes, therefore there is no evidence of a crime, therefore you’re proposing an investigation without probable cause.

There doesn't have to be an agreement, there just has to be corrupting influence, and giving someone money to vote is about a big corrupting influence as you can get.

If you’re paying money in exchange for something, there is an agreement. That’s literally what the words mean.

That is meaningless when it comes to the law in question. The term is corrupting influence.

You deny that someone paying for you to be able to vote again, who supports a given candidate, does not have ANY influence on who you might vote for?

Not corrupt influence, no. It’s extremely meaningful. You wouldn’t constantly be saying “he’s paying for them” or “he’s buying votes” if it weren’t meaningful. You’re language shifts back and forth because you don’t have any fucking idea what you’re talking about and are just whining because you don’t want people to vote.

And you are covering for possibly illegal behavior because it suits your interest.

it's all the same thing, it's all buying votes, it's all corrupt influence.

If you know anything about the law, you see that there’s nothing illegal about it.

But you don’t know anything so you make shit up to intimidate others from engaging in the democratic process.

The law is pretty clear, and it seems Bloomberg broke it, time for an investigation.

I guess you think Rich people are above the law when they spend their cash doing something you approve of, i.e. buy votes.

The law is clear but unless you know what the words in the law mean, you will make errors in its application as you have done. For you, you don’t understand what it means to buy a vote because as you’ve said there was no agreement and you cannot buy something without an agreement.

you are fixated on the need for an agreement where the law only says corrupting influence.

 

[martybegan]

The law is pretty clear, and it seems Bloomberg broke it, time for an investigation.

He did not break the law because he isn't trying to influence anyone's vote. That's the law in question by statute.

Instead, they are trying to deny the franchise to people who have been legally given it by two-thirds of the Floridian population.

This is voter suppression at its worst. This is why minorities don't vote Republican.

Bullshit.

1. I pay for you to vote again
2. I support Candidate X
3. Figure it out.

They voted on a referendum which stipulated all sentences had to be completed, including probation and parole, but not limited to them. Finishing your fines and restitution is part of your sentence.

 

[busybee01]

It's only buying votes if he is paying for the vote.

I mean, hypothetically, all these people who had their fees paid off could still vote Republican... Can't see why they would, but it's a mystery to me why anyone making less than six figures votes Republican.

The real problem here is the people of Florida CLEARLY made their wishes known by voting to restore the voting rights of felons not convicted of violent offenses. The GOP Legistlature cheated to prevent them from voting, and Bloomberg is just helping them restore their rights.

Sounds reasonable to me.

There was nothing wrong with what Bloomberg did. He made a blanket gift. Not one based on party affiliation or loyalty. Trumpers are only crying foul because their attempt at cheating again has been foiled.

Bloomberg pays for them to have their voting rights restored
Bloomberg supports Biden

Wink, Wink, nudge, nudge.

You need more than that.

That's what an investigation is for.

I'm sure if some lawbreaking is found you will find an excuse for it.

There is no lawbreaking involved. The facts are clear. There is no need for a investigation. This is nothing but harassment.

1. I pay for you to vote
2. I support Biden
3. Wink Wink, Nudge Nudge.

He is paying to give them the opportunity to vote. Your wink wink nod nod is broken.

1. he pays for them to be able to vote again
2. He supports Biden vehemently
3. 1+1= attempt to influence their votes.

I doubt you can add 1 and 1. There is no evidence he is doing anything illegal.

 

[busybee01]

The law is pretty clear, and it seems Bloomberg broke it, time for an investigation.

He did not break the law because he isn't trying to influence anyone's vote. That's the law in question by statute.

Instead, they are trying to deny the franchise to people who have been legally given it by two-thirds of the Floridian population.

This is voter suppression at its worst. This is why minorities don't vote Republican.

Bullshit.

1. I pay for you to vote again
2. I support Candidate X
3. Figure it out.

They voted on a referendum which stipulated all sentences had to be completed, including probation and parole, but not limited to them. Finishing your fines and restitution is part of your sentence.

It said nothing about fines or restitution. Clearly they meant prison terms. It was the Florida legislature who included fines and restitution. Clearly this was a attempt to subvert the amendment.

 

[busybee01]

They could also sprout antlers and fart unicorn dust.

They could. Frankly, it would make about as much sense for anyone voting for Trump.

They are getting their fines paid so they CAN vote, and they know who is paying the fines for them, and they know who said person supports.

None of which compels them to vote for that person.

The reality is, the REpublicans are the ones who don't want ex-felons to vote because they know they will vote Democratic. It's just another form of voter suppression.

Bullshit.

And the only reason Bloomie is paying their fines and restitution is because he knows they will vote democrat, and he's paying for it.

How does Bloomberg know who they will vote for?

Then why buy their voting rights back?

Refusing to answer the question again.

Such a snowflake.

He knows how most of them will vote, that's why he's buying their vote.

And again you use the term snowflake wrong, twat.

How does he know how they will vote?

A snowflake refuses to answer questions because they’re too scared of the implications of the answers.

He doesn't have to know how every single one votes, he just knows they are more likely to vote for Biden because Republicans are always harder on criminals.

What am I scared of?

Do you agree that criminals are more likely to vote for Democrats? Why so?

Is it because they are usually weak on crime?

So the answer is that Bloomberg doesn't know how anyone's going to vote.

Sure, felons are more likely to vote Democratic, but as you said that may very well be because of policy disagreements which is certainly not Bloomberg's fault, therefore he cannot be held liable for the actions of Republicans.

As we can see, this isn't about criminality, it's about Republican fear of being voted out of office.

He assumes they will vote democrat, otherwise why is he paying for them to vote?

No, it's about Bloomberg potentially breaking the law trying to buy votes for Democrats.

And of course, as always, go fuck yourself with Kamala's extra large dildo.

So he doesn't actually know how they'll vote.

How can he be accused of buying votes if he doesn't know who they're voting for?

He can't. You're entire accusation crumbles.

He's betting on them voting democrat, why else would he pay for them to get their voting rights back?

Again, why is he paying for them to be able to vote?

He can “bet on” whatever he wants. Given he doesn’t know who is voting for who, it cannot be considered buying votes.

His intent is for them to vote for Biden. Most of them will. That's a plausible chain showing corrupting influence on their vote, and that is what the Statue prohibits.

For starters, you can't prove intent. Second, you can't prove influence. Third, you can't prove CORRUPT influence.

This is just Republicans shitting their pants because they thought they were going to prevent people from voting and now that they might be able to, are worried that those people are going to be pissed at them.

proving intent is a major component of any criminal prosecution. proving influence is part of bribery prosecutions, and proving it is corrupt is part of the whole fighting corruption thing.

And you have no evidence of intent. No evidence of influence. No evidence of corruption.

And that's why they have to investigate.

No predicate for investigation.

Plenty of reason for an investigation. Motive, actions, money changing hands, voters being influenced due to it.

Failed to provide sufficient cause to suspect any corrupt influence has been exerted.

This is merely criminalizing political support for an opposing candidate. How very Stalin-esque of you.

Not support, paying money to get them to vote for your candidate.

And you’ve failed to provide any reason to suspect he’s paying them to do anything.

Other than he's paying them to do something, i.e. vote?

Show me where he's made the payment contingent on them voting.

You can't which is why you cannot accuse him of paying them to do something.

He's paying for them to vote, it doesn't have to be contingent, all it has to be is influence according to the Election law in question.

Him supporting Biden and his paying for their ballot isn't influence?

Define influence. That could be a ride to the polls.

 

[busybee01]

They could also sprout antlers and fart unicorn dust.

They could. Frankly, it would make about as much sense for anyone voting for Trump.

They are getting their fines paid so they CAN vote, and they know who is paying the fines for them, and they know who said person supports.

None of which compels them to vote for that person.

The reality is, the REpublicans are the ones who don't want ex-felons to vote because they know they will vote Democratic. It's just another form of voter suppression.

Bullshit.

And the only reason Bloomie is paying their fines and restitution is because he knows they will vote democrat, and he's paying for it.

How does Bloomberg know who they will vote for?

Then why buy their voting rights back?

Refusing to answer the question again.

Such a snowflake.

He knows how most of them will vote, that's why he's buying their vote.

And again you use the term snowflake wrong, twat.

How does he know how they will vote?

A snowflake refuses to answer questions because they’re too scared of the implications of the answers.

He doesn't have to know how every single one votes, he just knows they are more likely to vote for Biden because Republicans are always harder on criminals.

What am I scared of?

Do you agree that criminals are more likely to vote for Democrats? Why so?

Is it because they are usually weak on crime?

So the answer is that Bloomberg doesn't know how anyone's going to vote.

Sure, felons are more likely to vote Democratic, but as you said that may very well be because of policy disagreements which is certainly not Bloomberg's fault, therefore he cannot be held liable for the actions of Republicans.

As we can see, this isn't about criminality, it's about Republican fear of being voted out of office.

He assumes they will vote democrat, otherwise why is he paying for them to vote?

No, it's about Bloomberg potentially breaking the law trying to buy votes for Democrats.

And of course, as always, go fuck yourself with Kamala's extra large dildo.

So he doesn't actually know how they'll vote.

How can he be accused of buying votes if he doesn't know who they're voting for?

He can't. You're entire accusation crumbles.

He's betting on them voting democrat, why else would he pay for them to get their voting rights back?

Again, why is he paying for them to be able to vote?

He can “bet on” whatever he wants. Given he doesn’t know who is voting for who, it cannot be considered buying votes.

His intent is for them to vote for Biden. Most of them will. That's a plausible chain showing corrupting influence on their vote, and that is what the Statue prohibits.

For starters, you can't prove intent. Second, you can't prove influence. Third, you can't prove CORRUPT influence.

This is just Republicans shitting their pants because they thought they were going to prevent people from voting and now that they might be able to, are worried that those people are going to be pissed at them.

proving intent is a major component of any criminal prosecution. proving influence is part of bribery prosecutions, and proving it is corrupt is part of the whole fighting corruption thing.

And you have no evidence of intent. No evidence of influence. No evidence of corruption.

And that's why they have to investigate.

No predicate for investigation.

Plenty of reason for an investigation. Motive, actions, money changing hands, voters being influenced due to it.

Failed to provide sufficient cause to suspect any corrupt influence has been exerted.

This is merely criminalizing political support for an opposing candidate. How very Stalin-esque of you.

Not support, paying money to get them to vote for your candidate.

And you’ve failed to provide any reason to suspect he’s paying them to do anything.

Other than he's paying them to do something, i.e. vote?

Show me where he's made the payment contingent on them voting.

You can't which is why you cannot accuse him of paying them to do something.

He's paying for them to vote, it doesn't have to be contingent, all it has to be is influence according to the Election law in question.

Him supporting Biden and his paying for their ballot isn't influence?

Of course it has to be contingent. Otherwise he’s not paying for anything. Buying something means there’s an agreement. There is no agreement.

If you weren’t so committed to this nonsense, you’d agree.

You are imposing limitations that are not part of the law. Any form of monetary compensation for action doesn't have to include an agreement written in blood.

I pay for your family to go on vacation, you give me that juicy government contract, wink wink, nudge nudge.

Of course it’s part of the law. Buying and corrupt influence mean things and you are ignoring the plain language.

Compensation for an action requires SOME form of agreement and so far you’ve provided zero reason to believe there is any agreement.

The agreement doesn't have to be written down on verbal, it can be implied. Are you saying any corruption conviction for quid pro quo requires written evidence or even verbal evidence, and cannot deduce such understanding from the situation as described?

There has to be evidence that the intent was to influence the vote. When Pam Bondi was AG and Trump University was the subject of a lawsuit by state AGs, Trump made a donation to a group with ties to Bondi. After that contribution, she declined to join the lawsuit on behalf of Floridians. Under your definition, Bondi was bought off. It is a wink wink nod nod situation.

 

[busybee01]

then I don't know what is.

Then you don’t know what corrupting influence is.

This is little more than thuggish intimidation to suppress votes by you and your party.

Wow, justifying buying votes by calling opposition to it thuggery.

You really have nothing, do you?

Let the investigation figure it out, oh wait you are afraid of the investigation so you call for it not to happen.

How is the hack life, Hacky McHack-Hack? Hackigowa Hackitori?

Fabricating accusations and alleging possible charges for legal actiis an attempt to dissuade those from voting out of fear and intimidation.

As you said, this only scares you because you believe these individuals are going to vote Democratic.

What fabricating? There is a distinct possibility he broke Florida Election laws, and you want to sweep it under the rug.

The only reason you support this is BECAUSE you think they will vote Democratic.

Hacky takes it up the ass doo-dah doo-dah
Hacky take it up the ass, all dee doo dah day.

No there’s not. Not with any information you’ve presented. Making these accusations is a corrupt attempt to scare people into not voting.

Thug.

Wow, talk about overreach. It's an investigation into a rich guy trying to buy votes for his candidate.

Anything else you say is spin.

You are spinning. You are spinning so much you are dizzy. There is no evidence of vote buying.

 

[busybee01]

then I don't know what is.

Then you don’t know what corrupting influence is.

This is little more than thuggish intimidation to suppress votes by you and your party.

Wow, justifying buying votes by calling opposition to it thuggery.

You really have nothing, do you?

Let the investigation figure it out, oh wait you are afraid of the investigation so you call for it not to happen.

How is the hack life, Hacky McHack-Hack? Hackigowa Hackitori?

Fabricating accusations and alleging possible charges for legal actiis an attempt to dissuade those from voting out of fear and intimidation.

As you said, this only scares you because you believe these individuals are going to vote Democratic.

What fabricating? There is a distinct possibility he broke Florida Election laws, and you want to sweep it under the rug.

The only reason you support this is BECAUSE you think they will vote Democratic.

Hacky takes it up the ass doo-dah doo-dah
Hacky take it up the ass, all dee doo dah day.

No there’s not. Not with any information you’ve presented. Making these accusations is a corrupt attempt to scare people into not voting.

Thug.

Wow, talk about overreach. It's an investigation into a rich guy trying to buy votes for his candidate.

Anything else you say is spin.

Yes, and he’s being “investigated” for being a Biden supporter. Which as we know in your thug circles makes him suspicious.

Like you aren’t going to go after the people you’re accusing of accepting bribes. No one is that stupid.

He being investigated for paying people's debt off so they can vote. That may be against a specific Florida Election Law.

The only thug here is you, denying that an investigation should even take place, because you want your cock-buddy Biden to win regardless of the cost.

He is not being investigated. This is a attempt to harass him because he supports Biden. Florida Republicans are the crooks who should be investigated.

 

[busybee01]

then I don't know what is.

Then you don’t know what corrupting influence is.

This is little more than thuggish intimidation to suppress votes by you and your party.

Wow, justifying buying votes by calling opposition to it thuggery.

You really have nothing, do you?

Let the investigation figure it out, oh wait you are afraid of the investigation so you call for it not to happen.

How is the hack life, Hacky McHack-Hack? Hackigowa Hackitori?

Fabricating accusations and alleging possible charges for legal actiis an attempt to dissuade those from voting out of fear and intimidation.

As you said, this only scares you because you believe these individuals are going to vote Democratic.

What fabricating? There is a distinct possibility he broke Florida Election laws, and you want to sweep it under the rug.

The only reason you support this is BECAUSE you think they will vote Democratic.

Hacky takes it up the ass doo-dah doo-dah
Hacky take it up the ass, all dee doo dah day.

No there’s not. Not with any information you’ve presented. Making these accusations is a corrupt attempt to scare people into not voting.

Thug.

Wow, talk about overreach. It's an investigation into a rich guy trying to buy votes for his candidate.

Anything else you say is spin.

Yes, and he’s being “investigated” for being a Biden supporter. Which as we know in your thug circles makes him suspicious.

Like you aren’t going to go after the people you’re accusing of accepting bribes. No one is that stupid.

He being investigated for paying people's debt off so they can vote. That may be against a specific Florida Election Law.

The only thug here is you, denying that an investigation should even take place, because you want your cock-buddy Biden to win regardless of the cost.

No predicate for an investigation.

Plenty of reasons to have one.

Only in the mind of corrupt thugs like yourself who want to criminalize political support of a candidate.

Nope, it's a valid question considering the wording of the election law referenced.

Ignoring it out of hand is just showing how much of a hack you are, Hackidan Hackwong.

What’s exposed is your ignorance of the language of the law.

I'm not the one ignoring the language, you are. The investigation will come to it's conclusions when completed.

Then it’s an investigation without a predicate based on political bias.

Thugs like you favor abusing government authority to swing an election. Putin would be proud.

It's an investigation into a matter of money being paid in exchange for voting rights, which leads to votes.

And btw, I got mild OCD AND hate your fucking guts so I can keep this up FOR FUCKING EVER.

But there’s no evidence that there is any agreement that the money is being exchanged for votes, therefore there is no evidence of a crime, therefore you’re proposing an investigation without probable cause.

There doesn't have to be an agreement, there just has to be corrupting influence, and giving someone money to vote is about a big corrupting influence as you can get.

If you’re paying money in exchange for something, there is an agreement. That’s literally what the words mean.

That is meaningless when it comes to the law in question. The term is corrupting influence.

You deny that someone paying for you to be able to vote again, who supports a given candidate, does not have ANY influence on who you might vote for?

Not corrupt influence, no. It’s extremely meaningful. You wouldn’t constantly be saying “he’s paying for them” or “he’s buying votes” if it weren’t meaningful. You’re language shifts back and forth because you don’t have any fucking idea what you’re talking about and are just whining because you don’t want people to vote.

And you are covering for possibly illegal behavior because it suits your interest.

it's all the same thing, it's all buying votes, it's all corrupt influence.

If you know anything about the law, you see that there’s nothing illegal about it.

But you don’t know anything so you make shit up to intimidate others from engaging in the democratic process.

The law is pretty clear, and it seems Bloomberg broke it, time for an investigation.

I guess you think Rich people are above the law when they spend their cash doing something you approve of, i.e. buy votes.

Bloomberg clearly did not break the law. There should be a criminal investigation of Florida Republicans.

 

[martybegan]

It's only buying votes if he is paying for the vote.

I mean, hypothetically, all these people who had their fees paid off could still vote Republican... Can't see why they would, but it's a mystery to me why anyone making less than six figures votes Republican.

The real problem here is the people of Florida CLEARLY made their wishes known by voting to restore the voting rights of felons not convicted of violent offenses. The GOP Legistlature cheated to prevent them from voting, and Bloomberg is just helping them restore their rights.

Sounds reasonable to me.

There was nothing wrong with what Bloomberg did. He made a blanket gift. Not one based on party affiliation or loyalty. Trumpers are only crying foul because their attempt at cheating again has been foiled.

Bloomberg pays for them to have their voting rights restored
Bloomberg supports Biden

Wink, Wink, nudge, nudge.

You need more than that.

That's what an investigation is for.

I'm sure if some lawbreaking is found you will find an excuse for it.

There is no lawbreaking involved. The facts are clear. There is no need for a investigation. This is nothing but harassment.

1. I pay for you to vote
2. I support Biden
3. Wink Wink, Nudge Nudge.

He is paying to give them the opportunity to vote. Your wink wink nod nod is broken.

1. he pays for them to be able to vote again
2. He supports Biden vehemently
3. 1+1= attempt to influence their votes.

I doubt you can add 1 and 1. There is no evidence he is doing anything illegal.

He is corruptly influencing their vote.

 

[martybegan]

The law is pretty clear, and it seems Bloomberg broke it, time for an investigation.

He did not break the law because he isn't trying to influence anyone's vote. That's the law in question by statute.

Instead, they are trying to deny the franchise to people who have been legally given it by two-thirds of the Floridian population.

This is voter suppression at its worst. This is why minorities don't vote Republican.

Bullshit.

1. I pay for you to vote again
2. I support Candidate X
3. Figure it out.

They voted on a referendum which stipulated all sentences had to be completed, including probation and parole, but not limited to them. Finishing your fines and restitution is part of your sentence.

It said nothing about fines or restitution. Clearly they meant prison terms. It was the Florida legislature who included fines and restitution. Clearly this was a attempt to subvert the amendment.

it said completing their sentence, including parole and probation. fines and restitution are part of a sentence.

So fines and restitution are not part of a sentence?

 

[martybegan]

They could also sprout antlers and fart unicorn dust.

They could. Frankly, it would make about as much sense for anyone voting for Trump.

They are getting their fines paid so they CAN vote, and they know who is paying the fines for them, and they know who said person supports.

None of which compels them to vote for that person.

The reality is, the REpublicans are the ones who don't want ex-felons to vote because they know they will vote Democratic. It's just another form of voter suppression.

Bullshit.

And the only reason Bloomie is paying their fines and restitution is because he knows they will vote democrat, and he's paying for it.

How does Bloomberg know who they will vote for?

Then why buy their voting rights back?

Refusing to answer the question again.

Such a snowflake.

He knows how most of them will vote, that's why he's buying their vote.

And again you use the term snowflake wrong, twat.

How does he know how they will vote?

A snowflake refuses to answer questions because they’re too scared of the implications of the answers.

He doesn't have to know how every single one votes, he just knows they are more likely to vote for Biden because Republicans are always harder on criminals.

What am I scared of?

Do you agree that criminals are more likely to vote for Democrats? Why so?

Is it because they are usually weak on crime?

So the answer is that Bloomberg doesn't know how anyone's going to vote.

Sure, felons are more likely to vote Democratic, but as you said that may very well be because of policy disagreements which is certainly not Bloomberg's fault, therefore he cannot be held liable for the actions of Republicans.

As we can see, this isn't about criminality, it's about Republican fear of being voted out of office.

He assumes they will vote democrat, otherwise why is he paying for them to vote?

No, it's about Bloomberg potentially breaking the law trying to buy votes for Democrats.

And of course, as always, go fuck yourself with Kamala's extra large dildo.

So he doesn't actually know how they'll vote.

How can he be accused of buying votes if he doesn't know who they're voting for?

He can't. You're entire accusation crumbles.

He's betting on them voting democrat, why else would he pay for them to get their voting rights back?

Again, why is he paying for them to be able to vote?

He can “bet on” whatever he wants. Given he doesn’t know who is voting for who, it cannot be considered buying votes.

His intent is for them to vote for Biden. Most of them will. That's a plausible chain showing corrupting influence on their vote, and that is what the Statue prohibits.

For starters, you can't prove intent. Second, you can't prove influence. Third, you can't prove CORRUPT influence.

This is just Republicans shitting their pants because they thought they were going to prevent people from voting and now that they might be able to, are worried that those people are going to be pissed at them.

proving intent is a major component of any criminal prosecution. proving influence is part of bribery prosecutions, and proving it is corrupt is part of the whole fighting corruption thing.

And you have no evidence of intent. No evidence of influence. No evidence of corruption.

And that's why they have to investigate.

No predicate for investigation.

Plenty of reason for an investigation. Motive, actions, money changing hands, voters being influenced due to it.

Failed to provide sufficient cause to suspect any corrupt influence has been exerted.

This is merely criminalizing political support for an opposing candidate. How very Stalin-esque of you.

Not support, paying money to get them to vote for your candidate.

And you’ve failed to provide any reason to suspect he’s paying them to do anything.

Other than he's paying them to do something, i.e. vote?

Show me where he's made the payment contingent on them voting.

You can't which is why you cannot accuse him of paying them to do something.

He's paying for them to vote, it doesn't have to be contingent, all it has to be is influence according to the Election law in question.

Him supporting Biden and his paying for their ballot isn't influence?

Define influence. That could be a ride to the polls.

Ride to polls are not up to $1500 cash paid to cover money you owe.

A ride to the poll is just a ride to the poll. Cash paid you owe is something different entirely.

 

[martybegan]

They could also sprout antlers and fart unicorn dust.

They could. Frankly, it would make about as much sense for anyone voting for Trump.

They are getting their fines paid so they CAN vote, and they know who is paying the fines for them, and they know who said person supports.

None of which compels them to vote for that person.

The reality is, the REpublicans are the ones who don't want ex-felons to vote because they know they will vote Democratic. It's just another form of voter suppression.

Bullshit.

And the only reason Bloomie is paying their fines and restitution is because he knows they will vote democrat, and he's paying for it.

How does Bloomberg know who they will vote for?

Then why buy their voting rights back?

Refusing to answer the question again.

Such a snowflake.

He knows how most of them will vote, that's why he's buying their vote.

And again you use the term snowflake wrong, twat.

How does he know how they will vote?

A snowflake refuses to answer questions because they’re too scared of the implications of the answers.

He doesn't have to know how every single one votes, he just knows they are more likely to vote for Biden because Republicans are always harder on criminals.

What am I scared of?

Do you agree that criminals are more likely to vote for Democrats? Why so?

Is it because they are usually weak on crime?

So the answer is that Bloomberg doesn't know how anyone's going to vote.

Sure, felons are more likely to vote Democratic, but as you said that may very well be because of policy disagreements which is certainly not Bloomberg's fault, therefore he cannot be held liable for the actions of Republicans.

As we can see, this isn't about criminality, it's about Republican fear of being voted out of office.

He assumes they will vote democrat, otherwise why is he paying for them to vote?

No, it's about Bloomberg potentially breaking the law trying to buy votes for Democrats.

And of course, as always, go fuck yourself with Kamala's extra large dildo.

So he doesn't actually know how they'll vote.

How can he be accused of buying votes if he doesn't know who they're voting for?

He can't. You're entire accusation crumbles.

He's betting on them voting democrat, why else would he pay for them to get their voting rights back?

Again, why is he paying for them to be able to vote?

He can “bet on” whatever he wants. Given he doesn’t know who is voting for who, it cannot be considered buying votes.

His intent is for them to vote for Biden. Most of them will. That's a plausible chain showing corrupting influence on their vote, and that is what the Statue prohibits.

For starters, you can't prove intent. Second, you can't prove influence. Third, you can't prove CORRUPT influence.

This is just Republicans shitting their pants because they thought they were going to prevent people from voting and now that they might be able to, are worried that those people are going to be pissed at them.

proving intent is a major component of any criminal prosecution. proving influence is part of bribery prosecutions, and proving it is corrupt is part of the whole fighting corruption thing.

And you have no evidence of intent. No evidence of influence. No evidence of corruption.

And that's why they have to investigate.

No predicate for investigation.

Plenty of reason for an investigation. Motive, actions, money changing hands, voters being influenced due to it.

Failed to provide sufficient cause to suspect any corrupt influence has been exerted.

This is merely criminalizing political support for an opposing candidate. How very Stalin-esque of you.

Not support, paying money to get them to vote for your candidate.

And you’ve failed to provide any reason to suspect he’s paying them to do anything.

Other than he's paying them to do something, i.e. vote?

Show me where he's made the payment contingent on them voting.

You can't which is why you cannot accuse him of paying them to do something.

He's paying for them to vote, it doesn't have to be contingent, all it has to be is influence according to the Election law in question.

Him supporting Biden and his paying for their ballot isn't influence?

Of course it has to be contingent. Otherwise he’s not paying for anything. Buying something means there’s an agreement. There is no agreement.

If you weren’t so committed to this nonsense, you’d agree.

You are imposing limitations that are not part of the law. Any form of monetary compensation for action doesn't have to include an agreement written in blood.

I pay for your family to go on vacation, you give me that juicy government contract, wink wink, nudge nudge.

Of course it’s part of the law. Buying and corrupt influence mean things and you are ignoring the plain language.

Compensation for an action requires SOME form of agreement and so far you’ve provided zero reason to believe there is any agreement.

The agreement doesn't have to be written down on verbal, it can be implied. Are you saying any corruption conviction for quid pro quo requires written evidence or even verbal evidence, and cannot deduce such understanding from the situation as described?

There has to be evidence that the intent was to influence the vote. When Pam Bondi was AG and Trump University was the subject of a lawsuit by state AGs, Trump made a donation to a group with ties to Bondi. After that contribution, she declined to join the lawsuit on behalf of Floridians. Under your definition, Bondi was bought off. It is a wink wink nod nod situation.

1. Florida is a battleground State
2. Bloomberg supports Biden
3. Bloomberg pays for these people to vote
4. Only a fucking retard like you can't draw the line.

 

[martybegan]

then I don't know what is.

Then you don’t know what corrupting influence is.

This is little more than thuggish intimidation to suppress votes by you and your party.

Wow, justifying buying votes by calling opposition to it thuggery.

You really have nothing, do you?

Let the investigation figure it out, oh wait you are afraid of the investigation so you call for it not to happen.

How is the hack life, Hacky McHack-Hack? Hackigowa Hackitori?

Fabricating accusations and alleging possible charges for legal actiis an attempt to dissuade those from voting out of fear and intimidation.

As you said, this only scares you because you believe these individuals are going to vote Democratic.

What fabricating? There is a distinct possibility he broke Florida Election laws, and you want to sweep it under the rug.

The only reason you support this is BECAUSE you think they will vote Democratic.

Hacky takes it up the ass doo-dah doo-dah
Hacky take it up the ass, all dee doo dah day.

No there’s not. Not with any information you’ve presented. Making these accusations is a corrupt attempt to scare people into not voting.

Thug.

Wow, talk about overreach. It's an investigation into a rich guy trying to buy votes for his candidate.

Anything else you say is spin.

You are spinning. You are spinning so much you are dizzy. There is no evidence of vote buying.

1. Person can't vote due to money owed.
2. Bloomberg pays what is owed
3. Person can vote
4. Person knows Bloomberg supports Biden.

 

[martybegan]

then I don't know what is.

Then you don’t know what corrupting influence is.

This is little more than thuggish intimidation to suppress votes by you and your party.

Wow, justifying buying votes by calling opposition to it thuggery.

You really have nothing, do you?

Let the investigation figure it out, oh wait you are afraid of the investigation so you call for it not to happen.

How is the hack life, Hacky McHack-Hack? Hackigowa Hackitori?

Fabricating accusations and alleging possible charges for legal actiis an attempt to dissuade those from voting out of fear and intimidation.

As you said, this only scares you because you believe these individuals are going to vote Democratic.

What fabricating? There is a distinct possibility he broke Florida Election laws, and you want to sweep it under the rug.

The only reason you support this is BECAUSE you think they will vote Democratic.

Hacky takes it up the ass doo-dah doo-dah
Hacky take it up the ass, all dee doo dah day.

No there’s not. Not with any information you’ve presented. Making these accusations is a corrupt attempt to scare people into not voting.

Thug.

Wow, talk about overreach. It's an investigation into a rich guy trying to buy votes for his candidate.

Anything else you say is spin.

Yes, and he’s being “investigated” for being a Biden supporter. Which as we know in your thug circles makes him suspicious.

Like you aren’t going to go after the people you’re accusing of accepting bribes. No one is that stupid.

He being investigated for paying people's debt off so they can vote. That may be against a specific Florida Election Law.

The only thug here is you, denying that an investigation should even take place, because you want your cock-buddy Biden to win regardless of the cost.

He is not being investigated. This is a attempt to harass him because he supports Biden. Florida Republicans are the crooks who should be investigated.

He is trying to influence their vote by paying off their debts to allow them to vote.

 

[martybegan]

then I don't know what is.

Then you don’t know what corrupting influence is.

This is little more than thuggish intimidation to suppress votes by you and your party.

Wow, justifying buying votes by calling opposition to it thuggery.

You really have nothing, do you?

Let the investigation figure it out, oh wait you are afraid of the investigation so you call for it not to happen.

How is the hack life, Hacky McHack-Hack? Hackigowa Hackitori?

Fabricating accusations and alleging possible charges for legal actiis an attempt to dissuade those from voting out of fear and intimidation.

As you said, this only scares you because you believe these individuals are going to vote Democratic.

What fabricating? There is a distinct possibility he broke Florida Election laws, and you want to sweep it under the rug.

The only reason you support this is BECAUSE you think they will vote Democratic.

Hacky takes it up the ass doo-dah doo-dah
Hacky take it up the ass, all dee doo dah day.

No there’s not. Not with any information you’ve presented. Making these accusations is a corrupt attempt to scare people into not voting.

Thug.

Wow, talk about overreach. It's an investigation into a rich guy trying to buy votes for his candidate.

Anything else you say is spin.

Yes, and he’s being “investigated” for being a Biden supporter. Which as we know in your thug circles makes him suspicious.

Like you aren’t going to go after the people you’re accusing of accepting bribes. No one is that stupid.

He being investigated for paying people's debt off so they can vote. That may be against a specific Florida Election Law.

The only thug here is you, denying that an investigation should even take place, because you want your cock-buddy Biden to win regardless of the cost.

No predicate for an investigation.

Plenty of reasons to have one.

Only in the mind of corrupt thugs like yourself who want to criminalize political support of a candidate.

Nope, it's a valid question considering the wording of the election law referenced.

Ignoring it out of hand is just showing how much of a hack you are, Hackidan Hackwong.

What’s exposed is your ignorance of the language of the law.

I'm not the one ignoring the language, you are. The investigation will come to it's conclusions when completed.

Then it’s an investigation without a predicate based on political bias.

Thugs like you favor abusing government authority to swing an election. Putin would be proud.

It's an investigation into a matter of money being paid in exchange for voting rights, which leads to votes.

And btw, I got mild OCD AND hate your fucking guts so I can keep this up FOR FUCKING EVER.

But there’s no evidence that there is any agreement that the money is being exchanged for votes, therefore there is no evidence of a crime, therefore you’re proposing an investigation without probable cause.

There doesn't have to be an agreement, there just has to be corrupting influence, and giving someone money to vote is about a big corrupting influence as you can get.

If you’re paying money in exchange for something, there is an agreement. That’s literally what the words mean.

That is meaningless when it comes to the law in question. The term is corrupting influence.

You deny that someone paying for you to be able to vote again, who supports a given candidate, does not have ANY influence on who you might vote for?

Not corrupt influence, no. It’s extremely meaningful. You wouldn’t constantly be saying “he’s paying for them” or “he’s buying votes” if it weren’t meaningful. You’re language shifts back and forth because you don’t have any fucking idea what you’re talking about and are just whining because you don’t want people to vote.

And you are covering for possibly illegal behavior because it suits your interest.

it's all the same thing, it's all buying votes, it's all corrupt influence.

If you know anything about the law, you see that there’s nothing illegal about it.

But you don’t know anything so you make shit up to intimidate others from engaging in the democratic process.

The law is pretty clear, and it seems Bloomberg broke it, time for an investigation.

I guess you think Rich people are above the law when they spend their cash doing something you approve of, i.e. buy votes.

Bloomberg clearly did not break the law. There should be a criminal investigation of Florida Republicans.

The law prevents corruptly influencing a person's vote.

Sorry, but paying up to $1500 so they can vote sure seems like influencing how they will vote if the person paying clearly supports one Candidate.

 

[colfax_m]

then I don't know what is.

Then you don’t know what corrupting influence is.

This is little more than thuggish intimidation to suppress votes by you and your party.

Wow, justifying buying votes by calling opposition to it thuggery.

You really have nothing, do you?

Let the investigation figure it out, oh wait you are afraid of the investigation so you call for it not to happen.

How is the hack life, Hacky McHack-Hack? Hackigowa Hackitori?

Fabricating accusations and alleging possible charges for legal actiis an attempt to dissuade those from voting out of fear and intimidation.

As you said, this only scares you because you believe these individuals are going to vote Democratic.

What fabricating? There is a distinct possibility he broke Florida Election laws, and you want to sweep it under the rug.

The only reason you support this is BECAUSE you think they will vote Democratic.

Hacky takes it up the ass doo-dah doo-dah
Hacky take it up the ass, all dee doo dah day.

No there’s not. Not with any information you’ve presented. Making these accusations is a corrupt attempt to scare people into not voting.

Thug.

Wow, talk about overreach. It's an investigation into a rich guy trying to buy votes for his candidate.

Anything else you say is spin.

Yes, and he’s being “investigated” for being a Biden supporter. Which as we know in your thug circles makes him suspicious.

Like you aren’t going to go after the people you’re accusing of accepting bribes. No one is that stupid.

He being investigated for paying people's debt off so they can vote. That may be against a specific Florida Election Law.

The only thug here is you, denying that an investigation should even take place, because you want your cock-buddy Biden to win regardless of the cost.

No predicate for an investigation.

Plenty of reasons to have one.

Only in the mind of corrupt thugs like yourself who want to criminalize political support of a candidate.

Nope, it's a valid question considering the wording of the election law referenced.

Ignoring it out of hand is just showing how much of a hack you are, Hackidan Hackwong.

What’s exposed is your ignorance of the language of the law.

I'm not the one ignoring the language, you are. The investigation will come to it's conclusions when completed.

Then it’s an investigation without a predicate based on political bias.

Thugs like you favor abusing government authority to swing an election. Putin would be proud.

It's an investigation into a matter of money being paid in exchange for voting rights, which leads to votes.

And btw, I got mild OCD AND hate your fucking guts so I can keep this up FOR FUCKING EVER.

But there’s no evidence that there is any agreement that the money is being exchanged for votes, therefore there is no evidence of a crime, therefore you’re proposing an investigation without probable cause.

There doesn't have to be an agreement, there just has to be corrupting influence, and giving someone money to vote is about a big corrupting influence as you can get.

If you’re paying money in exchange for something, there is an agreement. That’s literally what the words mean.

That is meaningless when it comes to the law in question. The term is corrupting influence.

You deny that someone paying for you to be able to vote again, who supports a given candidate, does not have ANY influence on who you might vote for?

Not corrupt influence, no. It’s extremely meaningful. You wouldn’t constantly be saying “he’s paying for them” or “he’s buying votes” if it weren’t meaningful. You’re language shifts back and forth because you don’t have any fucking idea what you’re talking about and are just whining because you don’t want people to vote.

And you are covering for possibly illegal behavior because it suits your interest.

it's all the same thing, it's all buying votes, it's all corrupt influence.

If you know anything about the law, you see that there’s nothing illegal about it.

But you don’t know anything so you make shit up to intimidate others from engaging in the democratic process.

The law is pretty clear, and it seems Bloomberg broke it, time for an investigation.

I guess you think Rich people are above the law when they spend their cash doing something you approve of, i.e. buy votes.

Bloomberg clearly did not break the law. There should be a criminal investigation of Florida Republicans.

The law prevents corruptly influencing a person's vote.

Sorry, but paying up to $1500 so they can vote sure seems like influencing how they will vote if the person paying clearly supports one Candidate.

It only seems like that because you’re brain is rotten by years of Republican hatred.

 

[martybegan]

then I don't know what is.

Then you don’t know what corrupting influence is.

This is little more than thuggish intimidation to suppress votes by you and your party.

Wow, justifying buying votes by calling opposition to it thuggery.

You really have nothing, do you?

Let the investigation figure it out, oh wait you are afraid of the investigation so you call for it not to happen.

How is the hack life, Hacky McHack-Hack? Hackigowa Hackitori?

Fabricating accusations and alleging possible charges for legal actiis an attempt to dissuade those from voting out of fear and intimidation.

As you said, this only scares you because you believe these individuals are going to vote Democratic.

What fabricating? There is a distinct possibility he broke Florida Election laws, and you want to sweep it under the rug.

The only reason you support this is BECAUSE you think they will vote Democratic.

Hacky takes it up the ass doo-dah doo-dah
Hacky take it up the ass, all dee doo dah day.

No there’s not. Not with any information you’ve presented. Making these accusations is a corrupt attempt to scare people into not voting.

Thug.

Wow, talk about overreach. It's an investigation into a rich guy trying to buy votes for his candidate.

Anything else you say is spin.

Yes, and he’s being “investigated” for being a Biden supporter. Which as we know in your thug circles makes him suspicious.

Like you aren’t going to go after the people you’re accusing of accepting bribes. No one is that stupid.

He being investigated for paying people's debt off so they can vote. That may be against a specific Florida Election Law.

The only thug here is you, denying that an investigation should even take place, because you want your cock-buddy Biden to win regardless of the cost.

No predicate for an investigation.

Plenty of reasons to have one.

Only in the mind of corrupt thugs like yourself who want to criminalize political support of a candidate.

Nope, it's a valid question considering the wording of the election law referenced.

Ignoring it out of hand is just showing how much of a hack you are, Hackidan Hackwong.

What’s exposed is your ignorance of the language of the law.

I'm not the one ignoring the language, you are. The investigation will come to it's conclusions when completed.

Then it’s an investigation without a predicate based on political bias.

Thugs like you favor abusing government authority to swing an election. Putin would be proud.

It's an investigation into a matter of money being paid in exchange for voting rights, which leads to votes.

And btw, I got mild OCD AND hate your fucking guts so I can keep this up FOR FUCKING EVER.

But there’s no evidence that there is any agreement that the money is being exchanged for votes, therefore there is no evidence of a crime, therefore you’re proposing an investigation without probable cause.

There doesn't have to be an agreement, there just has to be corrupting influence, and giving someone money to vote is about a big corrupting influence as you can get.

If you’re paying money in exchange for something, there is an agreement. That’s literally what the words mean.

That is meaningless when it comes to the law in question. The term is corrupting influence.

You deny that someone paying for you to be able to vote again, who supports a given candidate, does not have ANY influence on who you might vote for?

Not corrupt influence, no. It’s extremely meaningful. You wouldn’t constantly be saying “he’s paying for them” or “he’s buying votes” if it weren’t meaningful. You’re language shifts back and forth because you don’t have any fucking idea what you’re talking about and are just whining because you don’t want people to vote.

And you are covering for possibly illegal behavior because it suits your interest.

it's all the same thing, it's all buying votes, it's all corrupt influence.

If you know anything about the law, you see that there’s nothing illegal about it.

But you don’t know anything so you make shit up to intimidate others from engaging in the democratic process.

The law is pretty clear, and it seems Bloomberg broke it, time for an investigation.

I guess you think Rich people are above the law when they spend their cash doing something you approve of, i.e. buy votes.

Bloomberg clearly did not break the law. There should be a criminal investigation of Florida Republicans.

The law prevents corruptly influencing a person's vote.

Sorry, but paying up to $1500 so they can vote sure seems like influencing how they will vote if the person paying clearly supports one Candidate.

It only seems like that because you’re brain is rotten by years of Republican hatred.

Clarity comes from not being a TDS half tard like you are.

Drooling idiot.

 

[colfax_m]

then I don't know what is.

Then you don’t know what corrupting influence is.

This is little more than thuggish intimidation to suppress votes by you and your party.

Wow, justifying buying votes by calling opposition to it thuggery.

You really have nothing, do you?

Let the investigation figure it out, oh wait you are afraid of the investigation so you call for it not to happen.

How is the hack life, Hacky McHack-Hack? Hackigowa Hackitori?

Fabricating accusations and alleging possible charges for legal actiis an attempt to dissuade those from voting out of fear and intimidation.

As you said, this only scares you because you believe these individuals are going to vote Democratic.

What fabricating? There is a distinct possibility he broke Florida Election laws, and you want to sweep it under the rug.

The only reason you support this is BECAUSE you think they will vote Democratic.

Hacky takes it up the ass doo-dah doo-dah
Hacky take it up the ass, all dee doo dah day.

No there’s not. Not with any information you’ve presented. Making these accusations is a corrupt attempt to scare people into not voting.

Thug.

Wow, talk about overreach. It's an investigation into a rich guy trying to buy votes for his candidate.

Anything else you say is spin.

Yes, and he’s being “investigated” for being a Biden supporter. Which as we know in your thug circles makes him suspicious.

Like you aren’t going to go after the people you’re accusing of accepting bribes. No one is that stupid.

He being investigated for paying people's debt off so they can vote. That may be against a specific Florida Election Law.

The only thug here is you, denying that an investigation should even take place, because you want your cock-buddy Biden to win regardless of the cost.

No predicate for an investigation.

Plenty of reasons to have one.

Only in the mind of corrupt thugs like yourself who want to criminalize political support of a candidate.

Nope, it's a valid question considering the wording of the election law referenced.

Ignoring it out of hand is just showing how much of a hack you are, Hackidan Hackwong.

What’s exposed is your ignorance of the language of the law.

I'm not the one ignoring the language, you are. The investigation will come to it's conclusions when completed.

Then it’s an investigation without a predicate based on political bias.

Thugs like you favor abusing government authority to swing an election. Putin would be proud.

It's an investigation into a matter of money being paid in exchange for voting rights, which leads to votes.

And btw, I got mild OCD AND hate your fucking guts so I can keep this up FOR FUCKING EVER.

But there’s no evidence that there is any agreement that the money is being exchanged for votes, therefore there is no evidence of a crime, therefore you’re proposing an investigation without probable cause.

There doesn't have to be an agreement, there just has to be corrupting influence, and giving someone money to vote is about a big corrupting influence as you can get.

If you’re paying money in exchange for something, there is an agreement. That’s literally what the words mean.

That is meaningless when it comes to the law in question. The term is corrupting influence.

You deny that someone paying for you to be able to vote again, who supports a given candidate, does not have ANY influence on who you might vote for?

Not corrupt influence, no. It’s extremely meaningful. You wouldn’t constantly be saying “he’s paying for them” or “he’s buying votes” if it weren’t meaningful. You’re language shifts back and forth because you don’t have any fucking idea what you’re talking about and are just whining because you don’t want people to vote.

And you are covering for possibly illegal behavior because it suits your interest.

it's all the same thing, it's all buying votes, it's all corrupt influence.

If you know anything about the law, you see that there’s nothing illegal about it.

But you don’t know anything so you make shit up to intimidate others from engaging in the democratic process.

The law is pretty clear, and it seems Bloomberg broke it, time for an investigation.

I guess you think Rich people are above the law when they spend their cash doing something you approve of, i.e. buy votes.

Bloomberg clearly did not break the law. There should be a criminal investigation of Florida Republicans.

The law prevents corruptly influencing a person's vote.

Sorry, but paying up to $1500 so they can vote sure seems like influencing how they will vote if the person paying clearly supports one Candidate.

It only seems like that because you’re brain is rotten by years of Republican hatred.

Clarity comes from not being a TDS half tard like you are.

Drooling idiot.

The derangement is on your side kiddo. You can’t even admit that you have no idea what corrupt influence means because you don’t want people to vote that might vote for a Democrat.