"Flooding the Zone"

[Nostra]

Kanada’s GDP is like seven bucks. Do you lefty clowns really think that Cuck Trudeau is going to destroy Trump on this?

Morons.

 

[rightwinger]

Federal Executive workers, by swearing to the Constitution, swear to follow the elected leader of the executive, from whom all federal executive power flows through. From the document, through the President, to the individual workers and agencies.

They must follow lawful orders
They are not required to cover for a President making unlawful requests or covering for him

Federal employees still have whistleblower protections

 

[Nostra]

They must follow lawful orders
They are not required to cover for a President making unlawful requests or covering for him

Federal employees still have whistleblower protections

List these unlawful requests, Trollwinger.

 

[martybegan]

They must follow lawful orders
They are not required to cover for a President making unlawful requests or covering for him

Federal employees still have whistleblower protections

Unlawful doesn't mean "things I don't like"

That's what dems set as the criteria for unlawful.

 

[Nostra]

Can you quote any of your posts blasting Biden for his 4 years of high inflation?

: crickets: from Marener

 

[Nostra]

Can you show us where the FBI is mentioned in the Constitution?

: crickets: from odanny

 

[toobfreak]

This has obviously been a dizzying few days since the Inauguration,

You mean you're more dizzy than usual?

with too many actions and orders and proclamations to mention.

I counted six major actions just in the last day. In contrast, Biden had one in the past year, and that was to claim that it was really HIM that started the ball rolling with finally getting the Hamas hostages released, two days after Trump gave them an ultimatum.

it has to muddle through all of this (getting past teriffs,

That is tariffs.

installing loyalists throughout the government,

I guess Biden and Obumma installed disloyalists when they were in office?

Clear outcomes to which they can point to make the chaos worth it.

Yep, nothing like stirring up a glass of mud that is the dirtball Biden left us trying to get things fixed and really working for the people to cause chaos!

 

[Mac1958]

Federal employees take an oath to the Constitution, not to a President.

If they are convinced that an order -- even from a President -- is unconstitutional, they might choose to refuse it.

If they refuse it in error, it will be at their legal peril, and they will pay the legal price after due process.

That's how it works, Trumpsters. Your God King™ is not above our Constitution. Their Oath is to IT, not HIM.

And you know it. Or maybe you don't. Maybe you're just flagrantly ignorant. I really don't know any more.

The oath of office and what it means

Why do public servants take an oath of office? The reason is simple – public servants are just that – servants of the people.

federalnewsnetwork.com

"One thing that federal workers often hear is a career supervisor or political appointee talking about loyalty to the agency or the boss. One purpose of the Oath of Office is to remind federal workers that they do not swear allegiance to a supervisor, an agency, a political appointee, or even to the President. The oath is to support and defend the U.S. Constitution and faithfully execute your duties. The intent is to protect the public from a government that might fall victim to political whims and to provide a North Star – the Constitution – as a source of direction."

 

[Marener]

Lowering foreign tariffs and our overall trade deficit won't lower prices?

All you idiots can do is fixate on things that have not even happened yet, and portend doom and gloom.

It's pathetic.

Explain how that will lower costs.

The only thing I’m predicting is that you’ll defend Trump no matter what happens. That’s why you won’t discuss how success will be measured. That’s pathetic.

 

[Nostra]

Federal employees take an oath to the Constitution, not to a President.

If they are convinced that an order -- even from a President -- is unconstitutional, they might choose to refuse it.

If they refuse it in error, it will be at their legal peril, and they will pay the legal price after due process.

That's how it works, Trumpsters. Your God King™ is not above our Constitution. Their Oath is to IT, not HIM.

And you know it. Or maybe you're just flagrantly ignorant. I don't know any more.

The oath of office and what it means

Why do public servants take an oath of office? The reason is simple – public servants are just that – servants of the people.

federalnewsnetwork.com

"One thing that federal workers often hear is a career supervisor or political appointee talking about loyalty to the agency or the boss. One purpose of the Oath of Office is to remind federal workers that they do not swear allegiance to a supervisor, an agency, a political appointee, or even to the President. The oath is to support and defend the U.S. Constitution and faithfully execute your duties. The intent is to protect the public from a government that might fall victim to political whims and to provide a North Star – the Constitution – as a source of direction."

List these unconstitutional orders.

 

[Mac1958]

List these unconstitutional orders.

NOW what are you talking about, Trumpster?

 

[martybegan]

Explain how that will lower costs.

The only thing I’m predicting is that you’ll defend Trump no matter what happens. That’s why you won’t discuss how success will be measured. That’s pathetic.

If you can't figure out basic economics, that's not on me.

Lowering regulatory overreach lowers overhead, which lowers costs.
Removing barriers to imports like tariffs lowers costs.
Improving the overall economy reduces inflation and increases competition, which lowers costs.

 

[progressive hunter]

This has obviously been a dizzying few days since the Inauguration, with too many actions and orders and proclamations to mention. The incoming team was clearly pretty freakin' busy once victory was secured and preparations were being made to get (back) in. I don't think the country (planet?) has ever seen anything like this.

My guess is that, in addition to "flooding the zone" so that keeping up with and/or opposing any individual thing is pretty much a waste of effort, this administration figures it has to muddle through all of this (getting past teriffs, installing loyalists throughout the government, and making all the other myriad changes) and show actual tangible results before the mid-term elections. Clear outcomes to which they can point to make the chaos worth it. This kind of complete overhaul of, um, everything isn't going to show results, one way or the other, for a while.

Thoughts?

Trump Floods The Zone, Leaving Opposition Drowning

Donald Trump's opponents have spent the days since his inauguration playing political whack-a-mole over a torrent of orders specifically calibrated to overwhelm and bewilder, say analysts, as the new president gets to work on his radical policy agenda.

www.barrons.com

sounds to me like you know you cant refute the message so are attacking the messenger,,

 

[Mac1958]

sounds to me like you know you cant refute the message so are attacking the messenger,,

I'm sure it does. You're a Trumpster.

 

[progressive hunter]

I'm sure it does. You're a Trumpster.

I'm an american,,

 

[rightwinger]

Unlawful doesn't mean "things I don't like"

That's what dems set as the criteria for unlawful.

They are free to report which actions of a President they don’t like

 

[martybegan]

They are free to report which actions of a President they don’t like

The issue isn't them speaking about things they don't like, the issue is them refusing to carry out things they don't like.

They are not supposed to decide policy, just implement it.

If they can't work with that, they can resign or get fired.

 

[Marener]

Removing barriers to imports like tariffs lowers costs.

except Trump campaigned on, and is implementing policies to increase barriers to imports like tariffs.

The gaslighting. It’s so obvious.

 

[martybegan]

except Trump campaigned on, and is implementing policies to increase barriers to imports like tariffs.

The gaslighting. It’s so obvious.

As a negotiating tactic to get what we want from them in economic concessions.

The Mexican government just agreed to negotiate as well as send troops to the border right now.

Trump is negotiating with Canada as we speak.

 

[berg80]

How about you provide us a list of people you think are more qualified than the folks he's nominated for each position.

No hurry, we'll be happy to wait.

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Given that the only qualification trump is interested in is sycophancy he hit the ball out of the park.