Are you counting the super rich? Probably.
"Real" wages. Sounds like a cherry picked stat to me bruf
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"Real" wages. Sounds like a cherry picked stat to me bruf
Yes the super rich have gotten richer too
You don’t know what “real wages” means? Hahah
Why are you even here trying to discuss politics?
I'm not trying to discuss anything with you. Aren't you the one who only says "don't you always lie"?
Isn't that your one comeback? So I don't thoughtfully respond to you ever bruv.
Haha then why did you quote me?
Haha and you don’t even know what “real wages” are! Hahaha
Lying requires intent…so I’m sorry, you see just stupid
I see just stupid? Yes, when I look at you bruv
Yes…omg you didn’t know what real wages are
Real wages were up on Biden's watch too.
Yes, real wages—wages adjusted for inflation—are up under the Biden administration.
Seems like there is a lot you don't know too
real wages began steadily rising starting in mid-to-late 2023. By the end of Biden's term, these consistent, inflation-adjusted gains made up for much, and in some sectors all, of the prior losses, meaning the average American had higher purchasing power than before the pandemic.
Dude you don’t know what real wages are
Real wages were in fact down under the xiden regime
Infographic: Biden's Blemish: Wages Haven't Kept Up With Inflation
This chart shows how average hourly nominal and real wages developed during under the Biden administration.
www.statista.com
Americans were left worse off because of xiden and your vote
This is from Statista. Same source you are using bruv.Dude you don’t know what real wages are
Real wages were in fact down under the xiden regime
Infographic: Biden's Blemish: Wages Haven't Kept Up With Inflation
This chart shows how average hourly nominal and real wages developed during under the Biden administration.
Americans were left worse off because of xiden and your vote
Real wages under the Biden administration saw an initial decline followed by a period of recovery. During his term, nominal wages rose significantly, but high inflation in 2021 and 2022 outpaced these wage gains. As inflation cooled in the latter half of his presidency, real wages gradually rebounded.
What you are doing is taking the entire 4 years. Remember the mess Trump handed Biden. Point is, by the end of Biden's term real wages were up big time. That's what Biden handed Trump
There's no way wages are keeping up with inflation
Are wages keeping up with inflation?
No. From April 2025 to April 2026, wages grew 0.24 percentage points slower than inflation. Nominal wages — the literal dollars earned regardless of cost of living — increased by 3.6% while inflation stood at 3.8%. When wage growth trails inflation, it indicates that workers are experiencing a decrease in purchasing power from the previous year.
Yes it says there is we a decline
This is what I mean when I say you cherry pick things like "real" wages
June 2024 During prepared testimony to the House Ways and Means Committee on April 30, Yellen claimed that “real wages and household median wealth have increased since before the pandemic.” Similarly, in a June 13 interview with CNBC, she said that “all Americans, both those who are well off and those who are near the bottom of the income distribution, are better off now. Their wages have risen more than prices.”
But in June a Republican said this: Conversely, during a June 16 interview on ABC News’ “This Week,” Scott claimed that for the “working class coalition … under Joe Biden … their wages, frankly, have gone down. Costs have gone up. And they have less spending power.”
Both Scott and Yellen can cite economic data that support their claims. The difference between the two claims is that Scott analyzed changes in inflation-adjusted wages and incomes since President Joe Biden entered office in 2021, whereas Yellen began her analysis in 2019, arguing that the pandemic distorted evaluations that began when Biden entered office.
Measuring from the start of Biden’s term in office, both wages and incomes have not kept up with inflation. However, measuring from before the pandemic to the present, inflation-adjusted wages and incomes have slightly increased.
And I'm sure that's exactly what you are doing. Not knowingly. I'm sure you are getting your sources from a site that doesn't tell you it's cherry picking data.
Real personal disposable per-capita income offers a different picture of purchasing power by including income sources other than earnings, such as “Social Security and other government benefits, dividends and interest, [and] business ownership.”
While Scott is correct that average hourly earnings have grown at a slower pace than inflation over the last three years, nominal wages have still increased for the typical American. The BLS estimates that nominal average hourly earnings (measured in current dollars without adjusting for inflation) have increased by 16.64% between January 2021 and May 2024.
As we described earlier, from January 2021 to the present, the inflation-adjusted measures of average hourly earnings, median weekly earnings, and per-capita disposable personal income all decreased. Holtz-Eakin called Yellen’s claim from June 16 “demonstrably false.”
However, Yellen’s previous statement from April, and the evidence supporting her claim provided to us by the Treasury Department, all compare wage and income data from before the pandemic to the present and correctly identify an upward trend.
Competing Narratives on Real Wages, Incomes Under Biden - FactCheck.org
In recent weeks, Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen and Sen. Tim Scott offered seemingly contradictory claims when discussing the impact of inflation on the typical American's wages and income. Both can cite economic data that support their claims. The difference is the starting point of their...
www.factcheck.org
Yes I know there were lies and spin from the White HouseThis is what I mean when I say you cherry pick things like "real" wages
June 2024 During prepared testimony to the House Ways and Means Committee on April 30, Yellen claimed that “real wages and household median wealth have increased since before the pandemic.” Similarly, in a June 13 interview with CNBC, she said that “all Americans, both those who are well off and those who are near the bottom of the income distribution, are better off now. Their wages have risen more than prices.”
But in June a Republican said this: Conversely, during a June 16 interview on ABC News’ “This Week,” Scott claimed that for the “working class coalition … under Joe Biden … their wages, frankly, have gone down. Costs have gone up. And they have less spending power.”
Both Scott and Yellen can cite economic data that support their claims. The difference between the two claims is that Scott analyzed changes in inflation-adjusted wages and incomes since President Joe Biden entered office in 2021, whereas Yellen began her analysis in 2019, arguing that the pandemic distorted evaluations that began when Biden entered office.
Measuring from the start of Biden’s term in office, both wages and incomes have not kept up with inflation. However, measuring from before the pandemic to the present, inflation-adjusted wages and incomes have slightly increased.
And I'm sure that's exactly what you are doing. Not knowingly. I'm sure you are getting your sources from a site that doesn't tell you it's cherry picking data.
Real personal disposable per-capita income offers a different picture of purchasing power by including income sources other than earnings, such as “Social Security and other government benefits, dividends and interest, [and] business ownership.”
While Scott is correct that average hourly earnings have grown at a slower pace than inflation over the last three years, nominal wages have still increased for the typical American. The BLS estimates that nominal average hourly earnings (measured in current dollars without adjusting for inflation) have increased by 16.64% between January 2021 and May 2024.
As we described earlier, from January 2021 to the present, the inflation-adjusted measures of average hourly earnings, median weekly earnings, and per-capita disposable personal income all decreased. Holtz-Eakin called Yellen’s claim from June 16 “demonstrably false.”
However, Yellen’s previous statement from April, and the evidence supporting her claim provided to us by the Treasury Department, all compare wage and income data from before the pandemic to the present and correctly identify an upward trend.
Competing Narratives on Real Wages, Incomes Under Biden - FactCheck.org
In recent weeks, Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen and Sen. Tim Scott offered seemingly contradictory claims when discussing the impact of inflation on the typical American's wages and income. Both can cite economic data that support their claims. The difference is the starting point of their...
But the numbers don’t lie, real wages decreased over the four years xiden was in office
Whatever. You're being conned dude. I wish I would have kept track of all the grifts. Starting with Don Jr's influence peddling club in Washington. To the $1.776 billion he's going to award himself and his followers. And he has control over it. I wonder what cut he gets. I wonder how much Trump is making off the war in Iran, ballroom, kristi noem alone got us for $240 million. Drop in the bucket. This is why you don't care. They are flooding the zone.
You cared about Nancy Pelosi stock trades but you don't mind Trump? Then don't complain. You minded about Hunter but not the Trump kids Uday and Qusay?
I cared about Nancy's because she used information that nobody had and shared it with her husband to make trades
Trump buys stock in Dell, and openly promotes the company....not the same thing at all
Yes and Trump's doing all that x 100.
Trump is openly insider trading, buying stock then promoting those companies,
This is going to go down in history as the biggest scam.
I can't believe Republicans are this stupid again. First it was Bush OOPSY got us into Iraq when he was warned not to. Now it's Trump OOPSY doing the exact same mistake in Iran. It has to be on purpose.
And this is some deep state shit. Think about it. All the CEO's Trump took with him to China. Those companies don't are about borders or America. They are international. They only care about money. Trump is ripping America off. In the end it will be $1 trillion dollars. And you keep crying about Pelosi. Or Biden who only has $10 million dollars. Pretty pathetic if he's corrupt.
The Trump's are absolutely, obscenely, in your face what you gonna do about it, corrupt.
They just gave themselves $1.776 billion. And in the settlement, the US Government can never investigate a Trump for tax fraud, ever again. I mean come on!
One day the USA is going to get all this money back from Baron, Don Jr and Eric. The Donald will be long gone. He wins. America loses. They are ripping us off like the debt doesn't matter.
During President Joe Biden’s four-year term (2021–2025), the gross national debt increased by approximately $8.4 trillion to $9.2 trillion
7.8 trillion in Trump's first term
You don't care if it goes up an extra trillion so the Trump's can get their cut.
Now I get it. It doesn't matter that he's taking us for $1 trillion. Drop in the bucket.
If it’s openly done, it’s not insider trading
Once again you show your lack of knowledge and common sense
Trump is going to force America to make new rules for what a president can and can't do. And that would include his kids and friends. He can't have Jared or Eric do it for him either.
Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo., doubled down Tuesday on his support for banning presidents — along with other federal officials — from trading individual stocks.
“I’d be in favor of a uniform rule for everybody,” Hawley told NBC News when asked about a recent filing that showed President Donald Trump made thousands of stock trades in recent months.
“By everybody, I mean everybody, Supreme Court justices, you pick it, that says you can’t trade in stock,” he added. “I mean, I’m in support of that. So, I’d start with Congress, but … I’d be happy to extend it all across the board.”
So Nancy and Donald Trump can't insider trade. Trump has mastered insider trading and corruption. It's because he's smart. And because you're stupid.
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OK....
All the DEI hires were not cutting it either. And some were absolutely ridiculous.
Look, you may not like this but Hillary started this crap with the whole "Travelgate " scandal that just kept growing and growing from department to department....then with Biden went from nutso to bizaro....
But....
I actually prefer that government be a little bit dumb....I dont want them to be that smart. A little bit is okay....a lot is not.
Which is why this is really scary.....
Cool, if you want to make new laws, then do it
Nobody is stopping congress from doing that
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As you can already see, you wont get much sympathy from MAGAs on this
Your payback will come when the new socialist/marxist party sits in the white house again
Because the next democrat president will have a wealth of incompetent libs to stock his team with
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