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Teapers will believe anything if they are told to.
What is the fine this year $265?
That doesn't make sense. This guy makes $100,000 a year and doesn't have health insurance? Wait, this is year 2...he makes 200k and no insurance?What is the fine this year $265?
first year it is 1% of your income over 10K or 95.00 whichever is higher
second year rises to 2 per cent, and adding another 1 percent increase each year after that
Fees exemptions HealthCare.gov
they didn't see the HIGHER part, so they heard the rumor it was just 95.00
One guy didn't even know why his tax return was reduced to 900 when it used to be over 2000
That doesn't make sense. This guy makes $100,000 a year and doesn't have health insurance? Wait, this is year 2...he makes 200k and no insurance?What is the fine this year $265?
first year it is 1% of your income over 10K or 95.00 whichever is higher
second year rises to 2 per cent, and adding another 1 percent increase each year after that
Fees exemptions HealthCare.gov
they didn't see the HIGHER part, so they heard the rumor it was just 95.00
One guy didn't even know why his tax return was reduced to 900 when it used to be over 2000
YOu are going to have to spell out how there is an $1100 difference. I haven't heard of anyone loses more than 50% of their tax return because of ACA. Sounds like a teaper myth to me.
I don't like ACA...but the hyperbole and nonsense from the teapers is what makes people ignore true facts.
My question was simple..how do you explain a more than 50% reduction in this guys tax return? Given your numbers...he made over $200,000 last year. Show me how it is ACA that is responsible for this.YOu are going to have to spell out how there is an $1100 difference. I haven't heard of anyone loses more than 50% of their tax return because of ACA. Sounds like a teaper myth to me.
I don't like ACA...but the hyperbole and nonsense from the teapers is what makes people ignore true facts.
this guy is like you, arguing that the ACA is the law of the land
and the Tea Party are Klan (specifically he said 72 percent Klan and 28 percent fruitcake).
I made a 10 million dollar bet with him the Tea Party
were about the Constitution not the Klan. He upped it to 20 million that I agreed to help him raise
for a nonprofit foundation publicized as part of this bet. I didn't want to take advantage.
he said he didn't mind paying the extra in taxes since that is the law.
I said that is if you CHOOSE to comply because it aligns with your beliefs, which is true for him.
for those who don't believe in this, the govt cannot make you change your beliefs or
penalize/discriminate against you for them. if you CHOOSE to go with the law for convenience, like an atheist putting up with God on money or in a pledge or a cross on public property then it is acceptable, but if they don't agree it is unlawful for govt to require due to the Constitution.
they didn't think there could be any Constitutional issues left to argue since it already went through Congress and Courts. so I had to explain the difference between state and federal laws, and why people blieve this is a matter for state law not Congress.
My question was simple..how do you explain a more than 50% reduction in this guys tax return? Given your numbers...he made over $200,000 last year. Show me how it is ACA that is responsible for this.YOu are going to have to spell out how there is an $1100 difference. I haven't heard of anyone loses more than 50% of their tax return because of ACA. Sounds like a teaper myth to me.
I don't like ACA...but the hyperbole and nonsense from the teapers is what makes people ignore true facts.
this guy is like you, arguing that the ACA is the law of the land
and the Tea Party are Klan (specifically he said 72 percent Klan and 28 percent fruitcake).
I made a 10 million dollar bet with him the Tea Party
were about the Constitution not the Klan. He upped it to 20 million that I agreed to help him raise
for a nonprofit foundation publicized as part of this bet. I didn't want to take advantage.
he said he didn't mind paying the extra in taxes since that is the law.
I said that is if you CHOOSE to comply because it aligns with your beliefs, which is true for him.
for those who don't believe in this, the govt cannot make you change your beliefs or
penalize/discriminate against you for them. if you CHOOSE to go with the law for convenience, like an atheist putting up with God on money or in a pledge or a cross on public property then it is acceptable, but if they don't agree it is unlawful for govt to require due to the Constitution.
they didn't think there could be any Constitutional issues left to argue since it already went through Congress and Courts. so I had to explain the difference between state and federal laws, and why people blieve this is a matter for state law not Congress.
You seem to be attributing arguments to me that I haven't made. I DO NOT support ACA...but I am also a rational and thinkning human being who doesn't buy TEAPER hyperbole and hysteria that is solely based on the hate of a President of a darker hue.My question was simple..how do you explain a more than 50% reduction in this guys tax return? Given your numbers...he made over $200,000 last year. Show me how it is ACA that is responsible for this.YOu are going to have to spell out how there is an $1100 difference. I haven't heard of anyone loses more than 50% of their tax return because of ACA. Sounds like a teaper myth to me.
I don't like ACA...but the hyperbole and nonsense from the teapers is what makes people ignore true facts.
this guy is like you, arguing that the ACA is the law of the land
and the Tea Party are Klan (specifically he said 72 percent Klan and 28 percent fruitcake).
I made a 10 million dollar bet with him the Tea Party
were about the Constitution not the Klan. He upped it to 20 million that I agreed to help him raise
for a nonprofit foundation publicized as part of this bet. I didn't want to take advantage.
he said he didn't mind paying the extra in taxes since that is the law.
I said that is if you CHOOSE to comply because it aligns with your beliefs, which is true for him.
for those who don't believe in this, the govt cannot make you change your beliefs or
penalize/discriminate against you for them. if you CHOOSE to go with the law for convenience, like an atheist putting up with God on money or in a pledge or a cross on public property then it is acceptable, but if they don't agree it is unlawful for govt to require due to the Constitution.
they didn't think there could be any Constitutional issues left to argue since it already went through Congress and Courts. so I had to explain the difference between state and federal laws, and why people blieve this is a matter for state law not Congress.
Hey this guy is on your side. And no this is NOT based on the 1% or 2% fine or whatever.
I stated above that some SUBSIDIES GET CANCELLED DUE TO changes in tax law
that also went through the same time as Obamacare.
I have no idea what he makes, but since this is private I can ask him to contact you and
discuss in private. Since you believe the same thing he does about the Tea Party, he might
want to share information with you. he wants to show me that the Tea Party is 72% Klan
so if you can help him prove those numbers (including the Latino Tea Parties, the Black Tea Parties,
the Muslim Tea Party, and all the other Tea Party members included in the full population),
then sure, he may be willing to explain where the numbers came from.
My guess is that some subsidies he used to get didn't get credited back.
and yes supposedly that is from Obamacare changing the tax code, but
it would take some tax expert to verify where that change came from.
He doesn't make that much, but he got a lot of overtime, and I don't know the laws on overtime.
I think he would be happy to share info with you, especially if you can help him prove this
idea that the Tea party is 72% Klan.
So please don't call someone like him a liar when he is in support of ACA, wants to pay under that
system and thinks like you do that the Tea Party isn't Constitutional but Klan. This guy is your
ally not your enemy.
Yours truly,
Emily
i think we should go back to private insurance deciding who dies....seems yall have forgotten the refusals of payment for treatments they dont deem necessary etc and so forth...funny how quickly yall have forgotten death panels by for profit insurance companies....
You seem to be attributing arguments to me that I haven't made. I DO NOT support ACA...but I am also a rational and thinkning human being who doesn't buy TEAPER hyperbole and hysteria that is solely based on the hate of a President of a darker hue.
YOU attributed a 50% reduction in his refund to ACA...I simply asked why?
YOU suggested this guy makes 200K/ yr because of YOUR numbers.
YOU are misrepresenting the fine and cost of ACA. It is a propaganda move that is NOT based on FACT but personal OPINION. It is HYPERBOLE at is best in order to create HYSTERIA among anyone willing to believe UNSUBSTANTIATED fact.