Federal charges in the Breonna Taylor case.

[JoeB131]

Wrong.

Breonna Taylor’s death was the consequence of a search warranted obtained based on lies:

The police didn't shoot because they had a bad warrant... they shot because dipshit shot at them.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Identify themselves or not the warrant was illegally gained. Anything after that becomes the fault of those who did that.

This is all bullshit.......but the democrats persecute the innocent, and cops, while they free the actual criminals...

Here is a real look at the case against these officers....

Conviction on these charges would require that prosecutors prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Hankison’s use of force was not justified as lawful defense of himself and his fellow officers being subject to the gunfire of Kenneth Walker. This argument has already been made in Kentucky state court, and found lacking before that court’s jury, resulting in Hankison’s acquittal in that case.
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The biggest challenges to conviction of Goodlett on these counts appears to me to lay in the ambiguity of the claims of the indictment—all such ambiguity undercuts the proof beyond a reasonable doubt required for conviction.

For example, the indictment claims Goodlett knew to be false the claim by fellow detective Jaynes that he had “verified” from a Postal Inspector that criminal target J.G. was receiving packages at Taylor’s apartment. Even if we assume Jaynes’ claim to be false, however, the indictment provides no evidence to suggest that Goodlett knew the claim to be false.

The indictment then claims that Goodlett had falsely added to the search warrant affidavit that detectives had “verified” (scare quotes in indictment) from databases that criminal target J.G. was using Taylor’s apartment as his “current home address” (again, scare quotes in indictment).

I note first that all these “scare quotes” around material claims of this indictment raise cause for concern because of the resultant ambiguity. What does “verified” mean in this context? What does “current home address” mean?

If J.G. had an existing dwelling that was his primary residence apart from Taylor’s apartment, but was communicating to others that he was currently staying at her apartment, could this communication reasonably (even if mistakenly) perceived by law enforcement as “verification” that J.G. was using Taylor’s apartment as his “current home address”?

Then we have the alleged count of conspiracy based on the meeting between Goodlett and Jaynes, where they purportedly agreed to falsely claim that LMPD Sergeant J.B. had told them in January 2020 that criminal target J.G. was receiving packages that Taylor’s apartment—a statement that J.M. would later deny having made.

This claim is made entirely in the absence of evidence. There is no indication that either Goodlett or Jaynes concedes to this purported conspiracy, and there’s no indicated source of evidence—even presented in anonymized fashion—showing this purported conspiracy. Is it merely a speculation on the part of the prosecutors?
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CHALLENGES TO FEDERAL CONVICTION OF JAYNES & MEANY​

As with Goodlett, the biggest challenges to conviction of either Meany or Jaynes on these counts appears to me to lay in the ambiguity of the claims of the indictment—again, all such ambiguity undercuts the proof beyond a reasonable doubt required for conviction.

For example, with respect to count one, directed at both Jaynes Meany, deprivation of rights under color of law, and punishable by execution on these facts, the count simply summarily alleges that both men knew “at the time that the affidavit contained false and misleading statements, omitted material information, relied on stale information, and was not supported by probable cause.”

Evidence for any of this? None is presented within count one. That said, in fairness, perhaps the necessary “evidence” is described in the following counts, two through four, so let’s take a look at what’s there.

In cont two, conspiracy by Jaynes, alleging three violation of Federal statutes good for 20 years, 20 years, and 5 years, respectively, it is alleged that Jayne falsely claimed that LMPD Sergeant J.M. had informed him that criminal target J.G. was receiving packages at Taylor’s apartment, a claim J.M. denies. Specifically, J.M. claims now that he was unaware of whether J.G. was receiving packages at Taylor’s apartment.

In any case, this kind of informal verbal communication, claimed by Jaynes to have occurred in January 2020, months prior to the service of the search warrant, is precisely the kind that is prone to ambiguity and reasonable error. Once again there is no documentation of any of this communication.

Feds Indict Officers In Breonna Taylor Death, Including Brett Hankison Found Not Guilty In State Trial

Merrick Garland wants what state prosecutors were unable to achieve, convictions in the raid where police responded to gunfire from Breonna Taylor's boyfriend, accidentally killing her.

legalinsurrection.com

Marxist Progressives throwing yet more kindling on top

 

[otto105]

And both his shooting at the police and their returning fire were both legal acts....going after the officer who were defending themselves from someone actually shooting at them first.....isn't a fucking crime, you leftist asshat....

The police didn't ID themselves during the execution of the assassination.

 

[2aguy]

The police didn't ID themselves during the execution of the assassination.

Wrong...they did......

 

[JoeB131]

The police didn't ID themselves during the execution of the assassination.

One witness said they did, when questioned under oath.

Now it's very possible that they didn't hear them, as they were in bed at the time.

And if you want to criticize certain aspects of this raid, like doing it at 1 AM, that's fine. A lot was done wrong. Also fault the police for not having their body cameras on. For that, they should be fired.

But end of the day, Walker caused the problem by shooting at the cops. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

 

[2aguy]

One witness said they did, when questioned under oath.

Now it's very possible that they didn't hear them, as they were in bed at the time.

And if you want to criticize certain aspects of this raid, like doing it at 1 AM, that's fine. A lot was done wrong. Also fault the police for not having their body cameras on. For that, they should be fired.

But end of the day, Walker caused the problem by shooting at the cops. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Okay....who are you and what did you do with Joe131.......are you back on your meds? You are actually sounding intelligent today.....good job.

 

[pknopp]

One witness said they did, when questioned under oath.

He initially said he heard nothing. A couple months later someone got him to say something different.

Witness who said police announced themselves at Breonna Taylor's apartment changed story

Not exactly a credible witness.

Now it's very possible that they didn't hear them, as they were in bed at the time.

And if you want to criticize certain aspects of this raid, like doing it at 1 AM, that's fine. A lot was done wrong. Also fault the police for not having their body cameras on. For that, they should be fired.

But end of the day, Walker caused the problem by shooting at the cops. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Without the lies to get the warrant none of it happens.

 

[JoeB131]

Okay....who are you and what did you do with Joe131.......are you back on your meds? You are actually sounding intelligent today.....good job.

Some of us aren't mind numbed robots like you are..

The Breonna Taylor case is tragic, but the officers weren't entirely in the wrong... at least not criminally.

 

[JoeB131]

He initially said he heard nothing. A couple months later someone got him to say something different.

Witness who said police announced themselves at Breonna Taylor's apartment changed story

Not exactly a credible witness.

Credible enough for the grand jury.

Just in case you missed it, the BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT GOES TO THE ACCUSED. So if you have two contradictory statements, you give the accused - the officers - the benefit of the doubt.

Without the lies to get the warrant none of it happens.

Without Breonna fucking drug dealers, none of it happens.

Except the cops bend the truth to get warrants all the time, which is why lawyers spend so much time challenging them when their totally innocent clients are caught doing things they shouldn't be doing.

End of the day, this happened because Kenneth Walker thought blasting at police officers was a good idea.

 

[pknopp]

Credible enough for the grand jury.

Just in case you missed it, the BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT GOES TO THE ACCUSED. So if you have two contradictory statements, you give the accused - the officers - the benefit of the doubt.

LOL, no you don't. The witness was not credible.

Without Breonna fucking drug dealers, none of it happens.

Except the cops bend the truth to get warrants all the time, which is why lawyers spend so much time challenging them when their totally innocent clients are caught doing things they shouldn't be doing.

End of the day, this happened because Kenneth Walker thought blasting at police officers was a good idea.

The cops have been charged and are facing prison, not Walker.

 

[JoeB131]

LOL, no you don't. The witness was not credible.

Credible enough for a grand jury, yea. Even in his first statement, he said HE knew they were cops.

The cops have been charged and are facing prison, not Walker.

Yes, it's too bad that the Biden Administration is pursuing a case that won't pass constitutional muster. They might even get a conviction if they stack the jury, but it won't stand up on appeal.

Like I said, all the cops have to do to get an acquittal is call Walker and Glover to the stand.

They'll either plead the fifth or they'll admit to their drug dealing ways.

 

[Curried Goats]

Credible enough for a grand jury, yea. Even in his first statement, he said HE knew they were cops.



Yes, it's too bad that the Biden Administration is pursuing a case that won't pass constitutional muster. They might even get a conviction if they stack the jury, but it won't stand up on appeal.

Like I said, all the cops have to do to get an acquittal is call Walker and Glover to the stand.

They'll either plead the fifth or they'll admit to their drug dealing ways.

I'm sure your armchair predictions are a comfort to the accused...

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Not at all. If Williams hadn't fired on them, Breonna Taylor would still be alive.

If the police wouldn't have LIED to obtain a warrant and had announced themselves Breonna Taylor would be alive. It's amazing how your racist ass wants to overlook the fact of police wrongdoing.

Except I wouldn't be stupid enough to try to shoot at the police. Also, they announced who they were.

He wouldn't have either had he known they were the police and witnesses said they didn't announce themselves.

Of course, I wouldn't be cohabitating with drug dealers, either.

How do we know who you would or wouldn't cohabit with.

 

[2aguy]

If the police wouldn't have LIED to obtain a warrant and had announced themselves Breonna Taylor would be alive. It's amazing how your racist ass wants to overlook the fact of police wrongdoing.

He wouldn't have either had he known they were the police and witnesses said they didn't announce themselves.

How do we know who you would or wouldn't cohabit with.

They did announce themselves.....had the guy not started shooting she would be alive...

 

[Superbadbrutha]

They did announce themselves.....had the guy not started shooting she would be alive...

No, witnesses said they didn't announce themselves. Oh that's right you know they did because you were there. Smfh.

 

[2aguy]

No, witnesses said they didn't announce themselves. Oh that's right you know they did because you were there. Smfh.

And one said they did...at that hour of the morning, who was up?

 

[whitehall]

No statute of limitations on murder. A.G. Garland still has a chance to charge federal officers in the deaths of Randy Weaver's wife and son and later the 80 men women and children who were killed at Waco. Fat chance?

 

[pknopp]

No statute of limitations on murder. A.G. Garland still has a chance to charge federal officers in the deaths of Randy Weaver's wife and son and later the 80 men women and children who were killed at Waco. Fat chance?

You think Biden will do what Clinton, Bush, Obama nor Trump would do?

 

[JoeB131]

If the police wouldn't have LIED to obtain a warrant and had announced themselves Breonna Taylor would be alive. It's amazing how your racist ass wants to overlook the fact of police wrongdoing.

The issue of the accuracy of the warrant would have been a perfectly fine issue to argue if something incriminating was found or if they wanted to get damages for the broken door.

It has nothing to do with the shooting when these cops were defending themselves from a thug who was going all gangsta and shooting at them.

He wouldn't have either had he known they were the police and witnesses said they didn't announce themselves.

Except the other witnesses knew they were cops.

How do we know who you would or wouldn't cohabit with.

Well, mostly because I have the good sense not to let someone with a substance abuse problem into my house, or into my life, for that matter. This woman managed to pick two losers in a row.

 

[JoeB131]

No statute of limitations on murder. A.G. Garland still has a chance to charge federal officers in the deaths of Randy Weaver's wife and son and later the 80 men women and children who were killed at Waco. Fat chance?

WHy should they do that? Randy Weaver choose to endanger his family by shooting at federal officers, and the cultists at Waco burned themselves alive.

And, yes, both of those had questionable warrants.

the place to fight a questionable warrant is in a court, not in a gunfight.