FBI opens investigation into Letitia James

[Rawley]

The chickens have come home to roost....nobody is above the law

A fine of $450M seems appropriate.

 

[Marener]

When did republicans go after james? They weren't even looking at her until this came up.

They're investigating James within months of taking power.

Trump valued his property between 400M and 600M, I've seen as high as 750M. Considering vacant lots around him were on the market for up to 200M, the 18M figure engoron cited was way out of line.

Testimony at court they said it was between $1 to 1.5 billion. Judge Engoron didn't say it would sell for $18 million, he was merely noting that's the tax assessment. The issue with Mar a Lago hinged on Trump's insistence that it be valued as a single family residence despite the fact that it cannot be legally used as a single family residence. It can't be subdivided. The buildings can't even been substantially altered. All these facts make it less valuable than a single family residence. That's the fraud.

 

[Marener]

Which loans? What was the verdict? You make a broad speculative and specious statement like that you should have some data to back it up.

Prosecutors ought to look into their own closets before throwing stones. Agreed?

https://ag.ny.gov/sites/default/files/decisions/trump-decision.pdf

 

[M14 Shooter]

Hope she is fined the same as Trump.

Is she the President-elect?
If not, and is convicted, she'll go to prison.

 

[ThisIsMe]

I actually never said James was behaving legally. She probably wasn't. I'm okay with prosecuting her fraud.

Just like I was okay with prosecuting Trump's fraud.

OK, then what are we arguing about? We'll see the investigation unfold and where it goes.

 

[Marener]

OK, then what are we arguing about? We'll see the investigation unfold and where it goes.

MAGA double standards.

 

[Concerned American]

They're investigating James within months of taking power.

Testimony at court they said it was between $1 to 1.5 billion. Judge Engoron didn't say it would sell for $18 million, he was merely noting that's the tax assessment. The issue with Mar a Lago hinged on Trump's insistence that it be valued as a single family residence despite the fact that it cannot be legally used as a single family residence. It can't be subdivided. The buildings can't even been substantially altered. All these facts make it less valuable than a single family residence. That's the fraud.

Trump is irrelevant. Letitia James is being charged. Please keep to the topic.

 

[Rawley]

Just like James.

Nah. Completely different

 

[Concerned American]

MAGA double standards.

Letitia James' case has absolutely nothing to do with Trump, MAGA or double standards unless you're saying she is above the law---then yeah, that would be a double standard.

 

[ThisIsMe]

There's every reason in the world to see this DoJ as being very interested in persecuting Trump's political enemies.

I'm sure there will be that perception, but in the end, isn't it reasonable to expect if she broke the law, it will be looked at?

 

[Marener]

I'm sure there will be that perception, but in the end, isn't it reasonable to expect if she broke the law, it will be looked at?

Why didnt you say that about Trump?

 

[airplanemechanic]

Nothing in there about tax fraud or tax breaks.

Did you have a different link that actually backs up what you're saying?

“falsified bank documents and property records to acquire government backed assistance and loans and more favorable loan terms.”

STEALING FROM THE GOV'T.

https://www.timesunion.com/capitol/article/justice-department-examining-letitia-james-20278899.php

 

[airplanemechanic]

You made an allegation with nothing to substantiate it.

I looked it up. There's nothing in this case about "stealing from government".

https://www.timesunion.com/capitol/article/justice-department-examining-letitia-james-20278899.php

“falsified bank documents and property records to acquire government backed assistance and loans and more favorable loan terms.”

 

[ThisIsMe]

They're investigating James within months of taking power.

Testimony at court they said it was between $1 to 1.5 billion. Judge Engoron didn't say it would sell for $18 million, he was merely noting that's the tax assessment. The issue with Mar a Lago hinged on Trump's insistence that it be valued as a single family residence despite the fact that it cannot be legally used as a single family residence. It can't be subdivided. The buildings can't even been substantially altered. All these facts make it less valuable than a single family residence. That's the fraud.

That's his assessment of it. If the banks disagree, they can counter offer. Banks set interest rated based on risk. People with less risk get better interest rates. Apparently the banks deemed trump wasn't a high risk and therefore they agreed with his assessment or deemed he wasn't a big risk and felt they didn't need to do their own appraisal. Either way, the banks were not defrauded, if they agreed to the risk..

Why james thought she could file lawsuit against him when no banks were complaining, I don't know. None of the bamks were claiming fraud, so why did she?

 

[ThisIsMe]

MAGA double standards.

But it's not double standards. Trump was prosecuted, James should be prosecuted. That's a consistent standard

 

[Marener]

That's his assessment of it. If the banks disagree, they can counter offer. Banks set interest rated based on risk. People with less risk get better interest rates. Apparently the banks deemed trump wasn't a high risk and therefore they agreed with his assessment or deemed he wasn't a big risk and felt they didn't need to do their own appraisal. Either way, the banks were not defrauded, if they agreed to the risk..

Why james thought she could file lawsuit against him when no banks were complaining, I don't know. None of the bamks were claiming fraud, so why did she?

It's a factual assessment. The banks were in fact lied to, which is what constitutes fraud.

 

[Rawley]

Why james thought she could file lawsuit against him when no banks were complaining, I don't know. None of the bamks were claiming fraud, so why did she?

That seemed to be a big issue for the Court of Appeals judges. Still waiting on their decision.

 

[Rawley]

But it's not double standards. Trump was prosecuted, James should be prosecuted. That's a consistent standard

Completely different standards. Civil case versus criminal case. And everyone, except hardcore partisan TDSers, agree James' application of the civil law against Trump was novel.

 

[Concerned American]

It's a factual assessment. The banks were in fact lied to, which is what constitutes fraud.

That is exactly what happened when Letitia James said she was married to her father in order to get a more favorable loan. Now would you like to address the topic?

 

[Marener]

But it's not double standards. Trump was prosecuted, James should be prosecuted. That's a consistent standard

MAGA says Trump was innocent and MAGA says James is guilty.

MAGA says Trump shouldn’t be prosecuted and MAGA says James should.