Eloy
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What's in Trump's emails, I wonder.
FBI Behind Leaks?
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AntonToo
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Keep wondering, Wikileaks looks to be in deep Russian fold and not interested in undermining Trump.
Eloy
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All emails are scrutinized by the United States security agencies.
cereal_killer
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I'm also thinking some people in the DOJ are going to go down. I think this goes deep and some very powerful people are going to get rolled when this is all said and done.
TNHarley
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Accountability sure sounds nice
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Definitely nothing about rigging campaign cycles, colluding with the govt or being a corrupt govt official.
Iceweasel
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Trump isn't two sided. Hillary, and Democrats in general, have a public view and a private view. None of this would have mattered if they were truly transparent, but then again they wouldn't be able to do what they do.
The issue should be the corruption, not who is bringing it to light.
AntonToo
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A guy who was just a few years ago was pro-abortion rights, pro-gun regulation, pro-Obama, pro-Minimum Wage increases, pro-Hilary, pro-Single Payer, pro-Democrat is not two sided?
Trump can take a dump your mouth and you'll ask for seconds.
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Iceweasel
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He wasn't into politics and started looking at the issues a few years ago. Talked to a bunch of people and learned a lot, unlike liberals who know everything from birth. Even when they flip flop on things like gay marriage.
But that wasn't what I was talking about, Hillary has a public view and a private view.
AntonToo
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You are so fucking stupid it is embarrassing.
You not only fabricate shit out of thin air, but when you do you don't even spend spend half a second to see if it can be contradicted by easily googled facts:
Not interested in politics? Then what is this:
Donald Trump presidential campaign, 2000 - Wikipedia
Crixus
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Its actually an old idea that our intelligence agencies have been leaking stuff, or making it real easy to leak stuff. Its no secret that the real intelligence and LE pros hate Obama, his administration and especially Hillary.
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Wild video, and truly disturbing if true. Not only his accusations about the corruption but also the type of power and influence our intelligence community would be taking by their involvement in this. Effectively, lying to the American people saying that the Russians were hacking and leaking to WikiLeaks, then dumping information to influence the outcome of a presidential election. They would be taking the rights and objectivity away from the voters which is a true crime and abuse of their power. They would be just as guilty as the administration they are trying to take out.
I have never heard of this guy so I did a little digging. His background and reputation takes away much of the credibility behind what he states in the video.
Steve Pieczenik - Wikipedia
In 1992, Pieczenik told Newsday that in his professional opinion, President Bush[clarification needed] was "clinically depressed". As a result, he was brought up on an ethics charge before the American Psychiatric Association and reprimanded. He subsequently quit the APA.[4]
He calls himself a "maverick troublemaker. You make your own rules. You pay the consequences."[4]
The role he played in the negotiations to bring about the release of Aldo Moro, an Italian politician kidnapped by the Red Brigades, is fraught with controversy.[citation needed]
On May 3, 2011, radio host Alex Jones aired an interview in which Pieczenik claimed that Osama bin Laden had died of Marfan syndrome in 2001 shortly after the September 11 attacks, and that the attacks on the United States on 9/11 were part of a false flag operation by entities within the American government, the Israeli leadership and Mossad.[31]
On October 20, 2011 in an interview with Alex Jones, Pieczenik claimed that Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi was alive, and said, "There’s no way they killed Muammar Gaddafi, that’s not our operating mode and I’ve been involved in 30 years with the takeouts and regime changes." He also criticized President Barack Obama, calling him an "obsessional pathological liar".[32][33]
On November 1, 2016, Pieczenik announced on his youtube channel that Hillary and Bill Clinton "effected a silent civilian coup through corruption and coaptation. However, people in the intelligence community formally initiated a countercoup through supplying information to Julian Assange and Wikileaks in order to prevent Hillary Clinton from becoming the next president of the United States, while also convicting and indicting President Obama, Loretta Lynch, and all others who were implicit in the cover-up of the massive corruption that occurred under the Clinton Foundation." [34]
TNHarley
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Wait, so a guy that is saying our government is corrupt loses credibility because he has said it before? Makes no sense, whatsoever.
Ethics violations for saying a president had depression? Political theater.
Slade3200
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You don't think Trump is two sided? Here is a link to 10 examples with videos. I can find dozens more if you like. I concede that there is dirty business going on with Hillary, I don't like it nor do I condone it and I wish there was somebody else to vote for... But I have NO DOUBT that given a position of power, that Trump would be much much more dirty and corrupt as Hillary could ever dream of being. We all know the type of guy Trump is, we've seen how he has conducted his business, we've seen how he attacks and deflects blame, and can't own up to his mistakes. He would lie and cover up and hide information and manipulate his messaging to get his way, NO DOUBT. You know it, I know it, and America should know it...
10 Donald Trump flip-flops - CNNPolitics.com
Slade3200
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The depression on was a baseless accusation from a licenses psychiatrists and led to an ethics charge. But you are right it is political theater. The more concerning of his claims are the next two in the list:
On May 3, 2011, radio host Alex Jones aired an interview in which Pieczenik claimed that Osama bin Laden had died of Marfan syndrome in 2001 shortly after the September 11 attacks, and that the attacks on the United States on 9/11 were part of a false flag operation by entities within the American government, the Israeli leadership and Mossad.[31]
On October 20, 2011 in an interview with Alex Jones, Pieczenik claimed that Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi was alive, and said, "There’s no way they killed Muammar Gaddafi, that’s not our operating mode and I’ve been involved in 30 years with the takeouts and regime changes." He also criticized President Barack Obama, calling him an "obsessional pathological liar"
xyz
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That explains a lot.
Slade3200
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I will say, his video does strike a chord and stimulate some curiosity... Something really does seem to be going on with our FBI. Comeys letter about the investigation on Friday and these recent reports about the Clinton Foundation are very very unprecedented from an investigating body that is supposed to keep their investigations confidential and let the DOJ do the public announcements. The latest reports seem aimed to damage Clinton and it has many people on both sides scratching their heads. It is wildly inappropriate for them to be doing this no matter what political side you are on, we should be getting facts so we can make educated decisions, not bait to speculate with...
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Here is what I think of it....
the guy writes fiction- mysteries, he's a kook, filled with conspiratorial ideas, he's an expert in psychological WARfare, he lost his membership to the Association of Psychiatrist for ETHICS reasons,
he's playing with your heads, like ALL conspiracy nuts do
And just watching him with all the blinking SHOWS he's lying....
Good lord you Hillary partisan's are idiots.
Steve Pieczenik
"Pieczenik was born in Cuba of Jewish parents from Russia and Poland and was raised in France"
Professional life[edit]
Pieczenik was Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance and James Baker.[3] His expertise includes foreign policy, international crisis management and psychological warfare.[7] He served the presidential administrations of Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush in the capacity of deputy assistant secretary.[8]
In 1974, Pieczenik joined the US State Department as a consultant to help in the restructuring of its Office for the Prevention of Terrorism.[2]
In 1976, Pieczenik was made Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for management.[2][5][9][10]
At the US State Department, he served as a "specialist on hostage taking".[11] He has been credited with devising successful negotiating strategies and tactics used in several high-profile hostage situations, including the 1976 TWA Flight 355 hostage situation and the 1977 kidnapping of the son of Cyprus' president.[2] He was involved in negotiations for the release of Aldo Moro after Moro was kidnapped.[12] As a renowned psychiatrist, he was utilized as a press source for early information on the mental state of the hostages involved in the Iranian hostage crisis after they were freed.[13] In 1977, Pulitzer Prize–winning journalist Mary McGrory described Stephen Pieczenik as "one of the most 'brilliantly competent' men in the field of terrorism".[14] He worked "side by side" with Police Chief Maurice J. Cullinane in the Washington, D.C. command center of Mayor Walter Washington during the 1977 Hanafi Siege.[15] In 1978, Pieczenik was known as "a psychiatrist and political scientist in the U.S. State Department whose credentials and experiences are probably unique among officials handling terrorist situations".[2]
On September 17, 1978 the Camp David Accords were signed. Pieczenik was at the secret Camp David negotiations leading up to the signing of the Accords. He worked out strategy and tactics based on psychopolitical dynamics. He correctly predicted that given their common backgrounds, Egyptian President Anwar El Sadat and Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin would get along.[3]
In 1979, he resigned as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State over the handling of the Iranian hostage crisis.[4]
In the early 1980s, Pieczenik wrote an article for The Washington Post in which he claimed to have heard a senior US official in the State Department Operations Center give permission for the attack that led to the death of US Ambassador Adolph Dubs in Kabul, Afghanistan in 1979.[16]
Pieczenik got to know Syrian President Hafez Assad well during his 20 years in the US State Department.[3]
In 1982, Pieczenik was mentioned in an article in The New York Times as "a psychiatrist who has treated C.I.A. employees".[17]
In 2001, Pieczenik operated as chief executive officer of Strategic Intelligence Associates, a consulting firm.[18]
Pieczenik has been affiliated in a professional capacity as a psychiatrist with the National Institute of Mental Health.[19]
Pieczenik has consulted with the United States Institute of Peace and the RAND Corporation.[20]
As recently as October 6, 2012, Pieczenik was listed as a member of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR).[21] According to Internet Archive, his name was removed from the CFR roster sometime between October 6 and November 18, 2012.[22] Publicly, Pieczenik no longer appears as a member of the CFR.[23]
Pieczenik is fluent in five languages, including Russian, Spanish and French.[2][3][4]
Pieczenik has lectured at the National Defense University.[7]
"In 1992, Pieczenik told Newsday that in his professional opinion, President Bush[clarification needed] was "clinically depressed". As a result, he was brought up on an ethics charge before the American Psychiatric Association and reprimanded. He subsequently quit the APA.[4]"
Steve Pieczenik - Wikipedia
The guy has a better resume than Hillary does, you need to get out more.
Slade3200
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Come on man, if you are going to present information then be objective about it. you praise his resume and list:Here is what I think of it....
the guy writes fiction- mysteries, he's a kook, filled with conspiratorial ideas, he's an expert in psychological WARfare, he lost his membership to the Association of Psychiatrist for ETHICS reasons,
he's playing with your heads, like ALL conspiracy nuts do
And just watching him with all the blinking SHOWS he's lying....
Good lord you Hillary partisan's are idiots.
Steve Pieczenik
"Pieczenik was born in Cuba of Jewish parents from Russia and Poland and was raised in France"
Professional life[edit]
Pieczenik was Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance and James Baker.[3] His expertise includes foreign policy, international crisis management and psychological warfare.[7] He served the presidential administrations of Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush in the capacity of deputy assistant secretary.[8]
In 1974, Pieczenik joined the US State Department as a consultant to help in the restructuring of its Office for the Prevention of Terrorism.[2]
In 1976, Pieczenik was made Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for management.[2][5][9][10]
At the US State Department, he served as a "specialist on hostage taking".[11] He has been credited with devising successful negotiating strategies and tactics used in several high-profile hostage situations, including the 1976 TWA Flight 355 hostage situation and the 1977 kidnapping of the son of Cyprus' president.[2] He was involved in negotiations for the release of Aldo Moro after Moro was kidnapped.[12] As a renowned psychiatrist, he was utilized as a press source for early information on the mental state of the hostages involved in the Iranian hostage crisis after they were freed.[13] In 1977, Pulitzer Prize–winning journalist Mary McGrory described Stephen Pieczenik as "one of the most 'brilliantly competent' men in the field of terrorism".[14] He worked "side by side" with Police Chief Maurice J. Cullinane in the Washington, D.C. command center of Mayor Walter Washington during the 1977 Hanafi Siege.[15] In 1978, Pieczenik was known as "a psychiatrist and political scientist in the U.S. State Department whose credentials and experiences are probably unique among officials handling terrorist situations".[2]
On September 17, 1978 the Camp David Accords were signed. Pieczenik was at the secret Camp David negotiations leading up to the signing of the Accords. He worked out strategy and tactics based on psychopolitical dynamics. He correctly predicted that given their common backgrounds, Egyptian President Anwar El Sadat and Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin would get along.[3]
In 1979, he resigned as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State over the handling of the Iranian hostage crisis.[4]
In the early 1980s, Pieczenik wrote an article for The Washington Post in which he claimed to have heard a senior US official in the State Department Operations Center give permission for the attack that led to the death of US Ambassador Adolph Dubs in Kabul, Afghanistan in 1979.[16]
Pieczenik got to know Syrian President Hafez Assad well during his 20 years in the US State Department.[3]
In 1982, Pieczenik was mentioned in an article in The New York Times as "a psychiatrist who has treated C.I.A. employees".[17]
In 2001, Pieczenik operated as chief executive officer of Strategic Intelligence Associates, a consulting firm.[18]
Pieczenik has been affiliated in a professional capacity as a psychiatrist with the National Institute of Mental Health.[19]
Pieczenik has consulted with the United States Institute of Peace and the RAND Corporation.[20]
As recently as October 6, 2012, Pieczenik was listed as a member of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR).[21] According to Internet Archive, his name was removed from the CFR roster sometime between October 6 and November 18, 2012.[22] Publicly, Pieczenik no longer appears as a member of the CFR.[23]
Pieczenik is fluent in five languages, including Russian, Spanish and French.[2][3][4]
Pieczenik has lectured at the National Defense University.[7]
"In 1992, Pieczenik told Newsday that in his professional opinion, President Bush[clarification needed] was "clinically depressed". As a result, he was brought up on an ethics charge before the American Psychiatric Association and reprimanded. He subsequently quit the APA.[4]"
Steve Pieczenik - Wikipedia
The guy has a better resume than Hillary does, you need to get out more.
"Pieczenik has been affiliated in a professional capacity as a psychiatrist with the National Institute of Mental Health.[19]"
Yet he was reprimanded for ethics charges for unsubstantially claiming that President Bush was clinically depressed.
He also has seem to go off the rails and stir controversy through more unsubstantiated claims:
On May 3, 2011, radio host Alex Jones aired an interview in which Pieczenik claimed that Osama bin Laden had died of Marfan syndrome in 2001 shortly after the September 11 attacks, and that the attacks on the United States on 9/11 were part of a false flag operation by entities within the American government, the Israeli leadership and Mossad.[31]
On October 20, 2011 in an interview with Alex Jones, Pieczenik claimed that Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi was alive, and said, "There’s no way they killed Muammar Gaddafi, that’s not our operating mode and I’ve been involved in 30 years with the takeouts and regime changes." He also criticized President Barack Obama, calling him an "obsessional pathological liar".[32][33]
He is a complete, loony tune NUT!!!Here is what I think of it....
the guy writes fiction- mysteries, he's a kook, filled with conspiratorial ideas, he's an expert in psychological WARfare, he lost his membership to the Association of Psychiatrist for ETHICS reasons,
he's playing with your heads, like ALL conspiracy nuts do
And just watching him with all the blinking SHOWS he's lying....
Good lord you Hillary partisan's are idiots.
Steve Pieczenik
"Pieczenik was born in Cuba of Jewish parents from Russia and Poland and was raised in France"
Professional life[edit]
Pieczenik was Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance and James Baker.[3] His expertise includes foreign policy, international crisis management and psychological warfare.[7] He served the presidential administrations of Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush in the capacity of deputy assistant secretary.[8]
In 1974, Pieczenik joined the US State Department as a consultant to help in the restructuring of its Office for the Prevention of Terrorism.[2]
In 1976, Pieczenik was made Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for management.[2][5][9][10]
At the US State Department, he served as a "specialist on hostage taking".[11] He has been credited with devising successful negotiating strategies and tactics used in several high-profile hostage situations, including the 1976 TWA Flight 355 hostage situation and the 1977 kidnapping of the son of Cyprus' president.[2] He was involved in negotiations for the release of Aldo Moro after Moro was kidnapped.[12] As a renowned psychiatrist, he was utilized as a press source for early information on the mental state of the hostages involved in the Iranian hostage crisis after they were freed.[13] In 1977, Pulitzer Prize–winning journalist Mary McGrory described Stephen Pieczenik as "one of the most 'brilliantly competent' men in the field of terrorism".[14] He worked "side by side" with Police Chief Maurice J. Cullinane in the Washington, D.C. command center of Mayor Walter Washington during the 1977 Hanafi Siege.[15] In 1978, Pieczenik was known as "a psychiatrist and political scientist in the U.S. State Department whose credentials and experiences are probably unique among officials handling terrorist situations".[2]
On September 17, 1978 the Camp David Accords were signed. Pieczenik was at the secret Camp David negotiations leading up to the signing of the Accords. He worked out strategy and tactics based on psychopolitical dynamics. He correctly predicted that given their common backgrounds, Egyptian President Anwar El Sadat and Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin would get along.[3]
In 1979, he resigned as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State over the handling of the Iranian hostage crisis.[4]
In the early 1980s, Pieczenik wrote an article for The Washington Post in which he claimed to have heard a senior US official in the State Department Operations Center give permission for the attack that led to the death of US Ambassador Adolph Dubs in Kabul, Afghanistan in 1979.[16]
Pieczenik got to know Syrian President Hafez Assad well during his 20 years in the US State Department.[3]
In 1982, Pieczenik was mentioned in an article in The New York Times as "a psychiatrist who has treated C.I.A. employees".[17]
In 2001, Pieczenik operated as chief executive officer of Strategic Intelligence Associates, a consulting firm.[18]
Pieczenik has been affiliated in a professional capacity as a psychiatrist with the National Institute of Mental Health.[19]
Pieczenik has consulted with the United States Institute of Peace and the RAND Corporation.[20]
As recently as October 6, 2012, Pieczenik was listed as a member of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR).[21] According to Internet Archive, his name was removed from the CFR roster sometime between October 6 and November 18, 2012.[22] Publicly, Pieczenik no longer appears as a member of the CFR.[23]
Pieczenik is fluent in five languages, including Russian, Spanish and French.[2][3][4]
Pieczenik has lectured at the National Defense University.[7]
"In 1992, Pieczenik told Newsday that in his professional opinion, President Bush[clarification needed] was "clinically depressed". As a result, he was brought up on an ethics charge before the American Psychiatric Association and reprimanded. He subsequently quit the APA.[4]"
Steve Pieczenik - Wikipedia
The guy has a better resume than Hillary does, you need to get out more.
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