Fat City-Thank you, Illinois taxpayers, for my cushy life.

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hey; tenure, pension, summers off, 3 day work week.....3% defined pension plan retirement, medical, no wonder there are 100 applicants for every spot... and virtually no one quits.


Fat City

Thank you, Illinois taxpayers, for my cushy life.
May 30, 2011, Vol. 16, No. 35 • By DAVID RUBINSTEIN

After 34 years of teaching sociology at the University of Illinois at Chicago, I recently retired at age 64 at 80 percent of my pay for life. This calculation was based on a salary spiked by summer teaching, and since I no longer pay into the retirement fund, I now receive significantly more than when I “worked.” But that’s not all: There’s a generous health insurance plan, a guaranteed 3 percent annual cost of living increase, and a few other perquisites. Having overinvested in my retirement annuity, I received a fat refund and—when it rains, it pours—another for unused sick leave. I was also offered the opportunity to teach as an emeritus for three years, receiving $8,000 per course, double the pay for adjuncts, which works out to over $200 an hour. Another going-away present was summer pay, one ninth of my salary, with no teaching obligation.

I haven’t done the math but I suspect that, given a normal life span, these benefits nearly doubled my salary. And in Illinois these benefits are constitutionally guaranteed, up there with freedom of religion and speech.

Why do I put “worked” in quotation marks? Because my main task as a university professor was self-cultivation: reading and writing about topics that interested me. Maybe this counts as work. But here I am today—like many of my retired colleagues—doing pretty much what I have done since the day I began graduate school, albeit with less intensity.

Before retiring, I carried a teaching load of two courses per semester: six hours of lecture a week. I usually scheduled classes on Tuesdays and Thursdays: The rest of the week was mine. Colleagues who pursued grants taught less, some rarely seeing a classroom. The gaps this left in the department’s course offerings were filled by adjuncts, hired with little scrutiny and subject to little supervision, and paid little.

rest of article here-
Fat City | The Weekly Standard
 
Congratulations!

Sounds like you made some wise choices in life.

Nothing to be ashamed of.

Enjoy your retirement.
 
Pretty well explains why Illinois is broke. This, along with all the other give-away programs, has ruined the State. Everybody takes. Nobody gives - expect those that actually pay taxes in this State.
 
Oh, so it's not you.

In that case, I take back my congratulations and extend it to the guy in the article who made the wise choices in life.
 
We should all be so lucky as to live a life where we can fuck over an entire state. And since he's in a protected class, the people that are helping us go broke will demand that he retain all that and more.

And people bitch that HC is going up. fyi; The cost of education has far out striped the cost of everything else.
 
And thus why my daughter's education, comprised primarily of "fill" courses she doesn't need, is about right at $17,000.
Her class schedule is such:

Monday and Wednesday - Lecture 9:00am - 11:00am
Tuesday and Thursday - lecture and classes from 9:00am - 5pm (one hour free from 1pm - 2pm)
Friday - nothing.

Naturally professors are almost always there for lectures, but will miss class times a good 30% of the time in which an Assoc. Professor performs his/her duty. So a professor may only actually have 250 - 300 or so hours per year...teaching. The rest...writing papers and publishing books and public speaking.
 
hey; tenure, pension, summers off, 3 day work week.....3% defined pension plan retirement, medical, no wonder there are 100 applicants for every spot... and virtually no one quits.


Fat City

Thank you, Illinois taxpayers, for my cushy life.
May 30, 2011, Vol. 16, No. 35 • By DAVID RUBINSTEIN

After 34 years of teaching sociology at the University of Illinois at Chicago, I recently retired at age 64 at 80 percent of my pay for life. This calculation was based on a salary spiked by summer teaching, and since I no longer pay into the retirement fund, I now receive significantly more than when I “worked.” But that’s not all: There’s a generous health insurance plan, a guaranteed 3 percent annual cost of living increase, and a few other perquisites. Having overinvested in my retirement annuity, I received a fat refund and—when it rains, it pours—another for unused sick leave. I was also offered the opportunity to teach as an emeritus for three years, receiving $8,000 per course, double the pay for adjuncts, which works out to over $200 an hour. Another going-away present was summer pay, one ninth of my salary, with no teaching obligation.

I haven’t done the math but I suspect that, given a normal life span, these benefits nearly doubled my salary. And in Illinois these benefits are constitutionally guaranteed, up there with freedom of religion and speech.

Why do I put “worked” in quotation marks? Because my main task as a university professor was self-cultivation: reading and writing about topics that interested me. Maybe this counts as work. But here I am today—like many of my retired colleagues—doing pretty much what I have done since the day I began graduate school, albeit with less intensity.

Before retiring, I carried a teaching load of two courses per semester: six hours of lecture a week. I usually scheduled classes on Tuesdays and Thursdays: The rest of the week was mine. Colleagues who pursued grants taught less, some rarely seeing a classroom. The gaps this left in the department’s course offerings were filled by adjuncts, hired with little scrutiny and subject to little supervision, and paid little.

rest of article here-
Fat City | The Weekly Standard

Hope you don't mind if I pile on, here:

1. Salaries of college presidents on the rise

•
The Associated Press
College presidents are getting healthy raises, and a dozen at private universities earn $1 million or more including benefits, according to a new survey published Monday.
Salaries at public universities remain a tier lower but also are on the rise, with eight presidents earning $700,000 or more last year, six more than the year before, according to the annual survey by the Chronicle of Higher Education.
THE CHRONICLE'S SURVEY: More on what college leaders make
Presidential salaries are facing closer scrutiny at a time when college prices continue to rise well above the rate of inflation.
Salaries of college presidents on the rise - USATODAY.com


2. College presidents' salaries increase: One-third earn over $500K

At least one person on campus has done OK as the economy has declined: public university presidents' salaries climbed 7.6% last year.
Fifteen presidents of public research universities took home at least $700,000 in 2007-2008, up from eight in last year's survey, and nearly one-third now earn over $500,000, according to the annual Chronicle of Higher Education survey out Monday.
College presidents' salaries increase: One-third earn over $500K - USATODAY.com



3. University President Salaries Soar Into the MillionsBy Michael Janofsky
THE NEW YORK TIMES
Donald E. Ross turned Lynn University, once a nearly bankrupt two-year Catholic school for women in Boca Raton, Fla., into a thriving four-year liberal arts college. Now, as Mr. Ross nears retirement after 34 years as president, it is apparent how much the board of trustees appreciates his work.
Mr. Ross ranked first in total compensation among the nation’s private university presidents for the 2003-4 academic year with a package worth $5,042,315, according to the latest annual survey of executive compensation by The Chronicle of Higher Education. Data from 2003-4 is the most recent available for private institutions. The results were released publicly last Monday.

For the first time, the survey reported leaders of private universities earning $1 million in a single year. The four others identified were Audrey K. Doberstein, formerly of Wilmington College in Delaware ($1,370,973); E. Gordon Gee of Vanderbilt University ($1,326,786); John R. Silber of Boston University ($1,253,352); and John N. McCardell Jr., formerly of Middlebury College in Vermont ($1,213,141).
University President Salaries Soar Into the Millions - The Tech



4. The price of a college education rose substantially last year, despite a 2.1 percent decline in the Consumer Price Index from July 2008 to July 2009.

High Tuition
Hit hard by state budget cuts, four-year public colleges raised tuition and fees by an average of 6.5 percent last year. Prices at private colleges rose 4.4 percent, according to a report issued Tuesday by the College Board.
Patrick Callan, president of the National Center for Public Policy and Higher Education, called the increases “hugely disappointing.”
Nonetheless, Ms. Baum acknowledged that over time, the costs trends at four-year public universities have been troubling.
“From 1979 to 1989, the annual rate adjusted for inflation was 3 percent,” she said, “the next decade was 4 percent, and the most recent decade 5 percent. So the trend was exacerbated in recent years.”
College Costs Keep Rising, Report Says - NYTimes.com




5.A chart comparing various aspects of college:

College In America


And, I would like to ask a question....after drumming up an apocryphal 'healthcare' crisis so that they could pass socialized medicine, when will our Democrat friends antagonize their allies in the universities by confronting a real crisis???
 
Hey..doing what you love as a job! That's great.

My gripes are usually with people like this guy..

Lehman's Fuld sold Florida mansion to wife for $100 | Reuters

and that idiocy has what to do with this? Do I really need to explain the difference, or are you just off your meds?

No..I'll explain the difference for you..because obviously you can't get your mind around it. With the guy in the article's piddling little salary it would take SEVERAL LIFETIMES to make what Robert Fuld made in one year. And Fuld was part of the problem. The bailout alone could fund most of the Social Programs you guys fucking cry about on a daily basis for many years. And Fuld...and those like him don't come by his tremendous salary just by working for the private sector. They come by it through all sorts of subsidies and tax breaks from the government. They also come by it because of liquidity provided by the government in the form of public servant accounts in PRIVATE FINANCIAL FIRMS. SO..in ADDITION to the bailout they are getting all sorts of government cash. That works out to be nearly a trillion dollars a year..that private firms get.

It's infuriating you guys continue to bray on about "socialism" for the poor..yet almost every time..fight like tigers for socialism for the rich.
 
Leftist protected class member getting lots of taxpayer money for doing little work = good and righteous and holy.

Wealthy guy getting lots of private investor money for doing little work = evil as Satan's toe jam.

For proof, see Shallow's posts.
 
Hey..doing what you love as a job! That's great.

My gripes are usually with people like this guy..

Lehman's Fuld sold Florida mansion to wife for $100 | Reuters

and that idiocy has what to do with this? Do I really need to explain the difference, or are you just off your meds?

No..I'll explain the difference for you..because obviously you can't get your mind around it. With the guy in the article's piddling little salary it would take SEVERAL LIFETIMES to make what Robert Fuld made in one year. And Fuld was part of the problem. The bailout alone could fund most of the Social Programs you guys fucking cry about on a daily basis for many years. And Fuld...and those like him don't come by his tremendous salary just by working for the private sector. They come by it through all sorts of subsidies and tax breaks from the government. They also come by it because of liquidity provided by the government in the form of public servant accounts in PRIVATE FINANCIAL FIRMS. SO..in ADDITION to the bailout they are getting all sorts of government cash. That works out to be nearly a trillion dollars a year..that private firms get.

It's infuriating you guys continue to bray on about "socialism" for the poor..yet almost every time..fight like tigers for socialism for the rich.
The guy in the OP isn't poor, asshat.
 
Hey..doing what you love as a job! That's great.

My gripes are usually with people like this guy..

Lehman's Fuld sold Florida mansion to wife for $100 | Reuters

and that idiocy has what to do with this? Do I really need to explain the difference, or are you just off your meds?

No..I'll explain the difference for you..because obviously you can't get your mind around it. With the guy in the article's piddling little salary it would take SEVERAL LIFETIMES to make what Robert Fuld made in one year. And Fuld was part of the problem. The bailout alone could fund most of the Social Programs you guys fucking cry about on a daily basis for many years. And Fuld...and those like him don't come by his tremendous salary just by working for the private sector. They come by it through all sorts of subsidies and tax breaks from the government. They also come by it because of liquidity provided by the government in the form of public servant accounts in PRIVATE FINANCIAL FIRMS. SO..in ADDITION to the bailout they are getting all sorts of government cash. That works out to be nearly a trillion dollars a year..that private firms get.

It's infuriating you guys continue to bray on about "socialism" for the poor..yet almost every time..fight like tigers for socialism for the rich.

you suffer a myopia that is near fatal, the difference is, see if you can get your mind around this; we are speaking of public funds, rendered via the taxpayer imparted to this proff. from a state/county/municpal fisc that is drowning in debt.

Fuld was a private money fund and assets mgr. PRIVATE, if the gov. bailed them out ( lehman went down in flames btw) thats another story entirely, I was not for that bailout and neither am I for the overgenerous retirement benefits accrued via the public fisc.

Fuld was paid via private funds, stock etc etc , he was on board that could have thrown him out or stock holders via proxy-...thats the difference...take your strawman elsewhere please.



It's infuriating you guys continue to bray on about "socialism" for the poor..yet almost every time..fight like tigers for socialism for the rich.


no, whats infuriating is you inability to focus on the topic.
 
hey; tenure, pension, summers off, 3 day work week.....3% defined pension plan retirement, medical, no wonder there are 100 applicants for every spot... and virtually no one quits.


Fat City

Thank you, Illinois taxpayers, for my cushy life.
May 30, 2011, Vol. 16, No. 35 • By DAVID RUBINSTEIN

After 34 years of teaching sociology at the University of Illinois at Chicago, I recently retired at age 64 at 80 percent of my pay for life. This calculation was based on a salary spiked by summer teaching, and since I no longer pay into the retirement fund, I now receive significantly more than when I “worked.” But that’s not all: There’s a generous health insurance plan, a guaranteed 3 percent annual cost of living increase, and a few other perquisites. Having overinvested in my retirement annuity, I received a fat refund and—when it rains, it pours—another for unused sick leave. I was also offered the opportunity to teach as an emeritus for three years, receiving $8,000 per course, double the pay for adjuncts, which works out to over $200 an hour. Another going-away present was summer pay, one ninth of my salary, with no teaching obligation.

I haven’t done the math but I suspect that, given a normal life span, these benefits nearly doubled my salary. And in Illinois these benefits are constitutionally guaranteed, up there with freedom of religion and speech.

Why do I put “worked” in quotation marks? Because my main task as a university professor was self-cultivation: reading and writing about topics that interested me. Maybe this counts as work. But here I am today—like many of my retired colleagues—doing pretty much what I have done since the day I began graduate school, albeit with less intensity.

Before retiring, I carried a teaching load of two courses per semester: six hours of lecture a week. I usually scheduled classes on Tuesdays and Thursdays: The rest of the week was mine. Colleagues who pursued grants taught less, some rarely seeing a classroom. The gaps this left in the department’s course offerings were filled by adjuncts, hired with little scrutiny and subject to little supervision, and paid little.

rest of article here-
Fat City | The Weekly Standard

Hope you don't mind if I pile on, here:

1. Salaries of college presidents on the rise

•
The Associated Press
College presidents are getting healthy raises, and a dozen at private universities earn $1 million or more including benefits, according to a new survey published Monday.
Salaries at public universities remain a tier lower but also are on the rise, with eight presidents earning $700,000 or more last year, six more than the year before, according to the annual survey by the Chronicle of Higher Education.
THE CHRONICLE'S SURVEY: More on what college leaders make
Presidential salaries are facing closer scrutiny at a time when college prices continue to rise well above the rate of inflation.
Salaries of college presidents on the rise - USATODAY.com


2. College presidents' salaries increase: One-third earn over $500K

At least one person on campus has done OK as the economy has declined: public university presidents' salaries climbed 7.6% last year.
Fifteen presidents of public research universities took home at least $700,000 in 2007-2008, up from eight in last year's survey, and nearly one-third now earn over $500,000, according to the annual Chronicle of Higher Education survey out Monday.
College presidents' salaries increase: One-third earn over $500K - USATODAY.com



3. University President Salaries Soar Into the MillionsBy Michael Janofsky
THE NEW YORK TIMES
Donald E. Ross turned Lynn University, once a nearly bankrupt two-year Catholic school for women in Boca Raton, Fla., into a thriving four-year liberal arts college. Now, as Mr. Ross nears retirement after 34 years as president, it is apparent how much the board of trustees appreciates his work.
Mr. Ross ranked first in total compensation among the nation’s private university presidents for the 2003-4 academic year with a package worth $5,042,315, according to the latest annual survey of executive compensation by The Chronicle of Higher Education. Data from 2003-4 is the most recent available for private institutions. The results were released publicly last Monday.

For the first time, the survey reported leaders of private universities earning $1 million in a single year. The four others identified were Audrey K. Doberstein, formerly of Wilmington College in Delaware ($1,370,973); E. Gordon Gee of Vanderbilt University ($1,326,786); John R. Silber of Boston University ($1,253,352); and John N. McCardell Jr., formerly of Middlebury College in Vermont ($1,213,141).
University President Salaries Soar Into the Millions - The Tech



4. The price of a college education rose substantially last year, despite a 2.1 percent decline in the Consumer Price Index from July 2008 to July 2009.

High Tuition
Hit hard by state budget cuts, four-year public colleges raised tuition and fees by an average of 6.5 percent last year. Prices at private colleges rose 4.4 percent, according to a report issued Tuesday by the College Board.
Patrick Callan, president of the National Center for Public Policy and Higher Education, called the increases “hugely disappointing.”
Nonetheless, Ms. Baum acknowledged that over time, the costs trends at four-year public universities have been troubling.
“From 1979 to 1989, the annual rate adjusted for inflation was 3 percent,” she said, “the next decade was 4 percent, and the most recent decade 5 percent. So the trend was exacerbated in recent years.”
College Costs Keep Rising, Report Says - NYTimes.com




5.A chart comparing various aspects of college:

College In America


And, I would like to ask a question....after drumming up an apocryphal 'healthcare' crisis so that they could pass socialized medicine, when will our Democrat friends antagonize their allies in the universities by confronting a real crisis???

sally mae, the next bubble, bet on it.;)
 
and that idiocy has what to do with this? Do I really need to explain the difference, or are you just off your meds?

No..I'll explain the difference for you..because obviously you can't get your mind around it. With the guy in the article's piddling little salary it would take SEVERAL LIFETIMES to make what Robert Fuld made in one year. And Fuld was part of the problem. The bailout alone could fund most of the Social Programs you guys fucking cry about on a daily basis for many years. And Fuld...and those like him don't come by his tremendous salary just by working for the private sector. They come by it through all sorts of subsidies and tax breaks from the government. They also come by it because of liquidity provided by the government in the form of public servant accounts in PRIVATE FINANCIAL FIRMS. SO..in ADDITION to the bailout they are getting all sorts of government cash. That works out to be nearly a trillion dollars a year..that private firms get.

It's infuriating you guys continue to bray on about "socialism" for the poor..yet almost every time..fight like tigers for socialism for the rich.
The guy in the OP isn't poor, asshat.

No comrade, he isn't.

But he isn't soaking up so much government money it would take a normal joe a hundred lifetimes to make the same amount.

Something your socialist addled mind can't get around.
 
Congratulations!

Sounds like you made some wise choices in life.

Nothing to be ashamed of.

Enjoy your retirement.

Government jobs have little to do with wise choices. They have to do with affirmative action, nepotism & corruption. Hundreds of well qualified people apply for these jobs but the employees are not chosen for their performance or qualifications.

Government employees should be ashamed about stealing so much money from citizens making half as much.

BTW how your buddy Blago doing?
 
and that idiocy has what to do with this? Do I really need to explain the difference, or are you just off your meds?

No..I'll explain the difference for you..because obviously you can't get your mind around it. With the guy in the article's piddling little salary it would take SEVERAL LIFETIMES to make what Robert Fuld made in one year. And Fuld was part of the problem. The bailout alone could fund most of the Social Programs you guys fucking cry about on a daily basis for many years. And Fuld...and those like him don't come by his tremendous salary just by working for the private sector. They come by it through all sorts of subsidies and tax breaks from the government. They also come by it because of liquidity provided by the government in the form of public servant accounts in PRIVATE FINANCIAL FIRMS. SO..in ADDITION to the bailout they are getting all sorts of government cash. That works out to be nearly a trillion dollars a year..that private firms get.

It's infuriating you guys continue to bray on about "socialism" for the poor..yet almost every time..fight like tigers for socialism for the rich.

you suffer a myopia that is near fatal, the difference is, see if you can get your mind around this; we are speaking of public funds, rendered via the taxpayer imparted to this proff. from a state/county/municpal fisc that is drowning in debt.

Fuld was a private money fund and assets mgr. PRIVATE, if the gov. bailed them out ( lehman went down in flames btw) thats another story entirely, I was not for that bailout and neither am I for the overgenerous retirement benefits accrued via the public fisc.

Fuld was paid via private funds, stock etc etc , he was on board that could have thrown him out or stock holders via proxy-...thats the difference...take your strawman elsewhere please.



It's infuriating you guys continue to bray on about "socialism" for the poor..yet almost every time..fight like tigers for socialism for the rich.


no, whats infuriating is you inability to focus on the topic.


Forget it buddy...he is lost.
I was wrong, Sallow is not an independent thinker...his mind only goes one way...left.
He is unreachable.
 
No..I'll explain the difference for you..because obviously you can't get your mind around it. With the guy in the article's piddling little salary it would take SEVERAL LIFETIMES to make what Robert Fuld made in one year. And Fuld was part of the problem. The bailout alone could fund most of the Social Programs you guys fucking cry about on a daily basis for many years. And Fuld...and those like him don't come by his tremendous salary just by working for the private sector. They come by it through all sorts of subsidies and tax breaks from the government. They also come by it because of liquidity provided by the government in the form of public servant accounts in PRIVATE FINANCIAL FIRMS. SO..in ADDITION to the bailout they are getting all sorts of government cash. That works out to be nearly a trillion dollars a year..that private firms get.

It's infuriating you guys continue to bray on about "socialism" for the poor..yet almost every time..fight like tigers for socialism for the rich.
The guy in the OP isn't poor, asshat.

No comrade, he isn't.

But he isn't soaking up so much government money it would take a normal joe a hundred lifetimes to make the same amount.

Something your socialist addled mind can't get around.

I called it:
Leftist protected class member getting lots of taxpayer money for doing little work = good and righteous and holy.

Wealthy guy getting lots of private investor money for doing little work = evil as Satan's toe jam.

For proof, see Shallow's posts.​
 

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