Fascism comes to America yet again

[K9Buck]

The closest thing we have to fascism in the US is ANTIFA.

Actually, antifa might be full-fledged communists as communism entails, as you know, state ownership of everything. The old Soviet flag has been spotted at a number of their marches.

 

[K9Buck]

I've never heard this explosion. Whenever the Government controls the economy that's called socialism.

A true socialist economic system has NEVER actually existed anywhere in the world as it entails, by definition, a system wherein the "means of production" are equally shared by the workers. It's never happened.

Communism (Marxism) entails state ownership of everything. North Korea and Cuba are a couple of examples of that. The Soviet Union and China were communist but the Soviet Union ceased to exist and China abandoned communism.

Fascism is the most popular form of governance for much of the far-let in that it permits private ownership of the "means of production" while also permitting the government to directly control their operations.

With that said, most of the modern, western, left are NOT fascists as most of them do, in fact, support free-market capitalism and oppose total government control. With that said, there are plenty of western leftists that would have NO PROBLEM with a fascist system of government and economics, as long as it's called something else.

 

[westwall]

Trump is a fascist whether in office or a private citizen like you.

I see you've gone off the deep end.

Let me ask you a serious question. Why are you a committed Democrat? The Democratic Party is a gigantic organized crime outfit that has been robbing us BLIND for decades along with help from numerous and equally corrupt Republicans. So, why do you blindly support them?

He's not a committed "Democrat", he IS a committed fascist. Every post he makes demonstrates that fact.

 

[sartre play]

Overly simplistic? What we have now is government leaders working for there party to have control of everything. Not having a balance of power is good for none of us who are out side of the power elite circle

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

She failed to adhere to a direct legal command from a law enforcement officer. Multiple times. It was a good shoot.

Sounds exactly like the piece of shit George Floyd that you defended so much.
Failed to adhere to direct legal commands from law enforcement, just like so many criminals
and wastes of skin you defend.
Except no one ever blew Floyd's brains out from point blank range.

And no one threatened to burn down Washington DC to get justice for Ashley Babbitt unlike pricks like you that defended that worthless drug filled career criminal, George Floyd.
You're such a brainless corrupt moron!. How do you stand yourself?

 

[MarcATL]

Sounds exactly like the piece of shit George Floyd that you defended so much.
Failed to adhere to direct legal commands from law enforcement, just like so many criminals
and wastes of skin you defend.
Except no one ever blew Floyd's brains out from point blank range.

And no one threatened to burn down Washington DC to get justice for Ashley Babbitt unlike pricks like you that defended that worthless drug filled career criminal, George Floyd.
You're such a brainless corrupt moron!. How do you stand yourself?

Nothing you stated is factual, so I'm just fine.

 

[StormAl]

The closest thing we have to fascism in America is Trump...

Again, you despise Trump, and, therefore, that makes him a "fascist" in your mind. To you, the term "fascist" is something that you use to smear people you dislike and has no basis in reality. I sense that reading your posts and responding to them is an exercise in futility.

Only in your pea brain is that logic running around.

Trump is nationalist, populist, racialist, ethnocentric, sexist, homophobic, anti-democratic, anti-worker, pro-big business, demagogic a la Goebbels, and so on and so forth.

 

[StormAl]

Trump is a fascist whether in office or a private citizen like you.

I see you've gone off the deep end.

Let me ask you a serious question. Why are you a committed Democrat? The Democratic Party is a gigantic organized crime outfit that has been robbing us BLIND for decades along with help from numerous and equally corrupt Republicans. So, why do you blindly support them?

Your pea brain is blathering nonsense.

Why are you pro-Trump?

Why did you support the Insurgency?

You know 'the big steal' is a lie.

 

[StormAl]

Ummmm, nooo. The graph that I liked shows nazism is on the LEFT. If you support government control of business. You are a Nazi. If you support government control of speech. You are a Nazi. If you support government control of your medical care with no choice of a free market solution. You are a Nazi. If you support government control of your childrens upbringing. You are a Nazi.

You will notice that NONE of us support ANY of those things.

I like your post but would simply correct it to note that all of those are tenets of fascism in addition to Nazism. I will add that Nazism is fascism plus the concept of Aryan supremacy and extreme anti-Semitism. Benito's fascism didn't entail those two tenets.

In America, those two tenets are added to American fascism, so, yes, it is a model taken from the German form of fascism.

 

[gipper]

Far right movements spread around the world in the early 20th century. Americans have flirted with fascist ideology on and off, especially in the early 20th century--then in reaction to a strong progressive streak that dominated American culture. The opposition to democracy, nationalism, anti-immigrant demagoguery, the reliance on lies and propaganda, and authoritarianism are its most persistent features.

The conservative base in America has always had far right components to it, yet they were never able to dominate the US completely, not even in the 1930s before WW2. They were essentially fringe ideas for much of the period since WW2 to the point where they were basically ignored. For most of the past century, any far-right insurgency was almost always contained by the center-right element of the party. But not this time.

Once again we are witnesses to a rise of fascist far-right parties taking over in much of the world. Even though it was clearly the governing ideology of Trump himself, there were significant hurdles from the centrists that stopped his agenda. But those roadblocks were either systematically dismantled or eliminated through excommunication from the party. The near-absolute cover they gave him for his criminality, for his impeachable offenses, and for "the Big Lie" were signs that the party was weakening.

Now, the fascist wing has captured the Republican Party thoroughly. There is no accountability for the far-right members of the party, only those who might question their lies. The center-right Republican Party is now officially dead. It is just the fascists who are left.

God help us all.

Wrong.

The closest thing we have to fascism in the US is ANTIFA.

No. The closest thing to fascism is your beloved CIA. Actually they are fascists.

 

[StormAl]

Far right movements spread around the world in the early 20th century. Americans have flirted with fascist ideology on and off, especially in the early 20th century--then in reaction to a strong progressive streak that dominated American culture. The opposition to democracy, nationalism, anti-immigrant demagoguery, the reliance on lies and propaganda, and authoritarianism are its most persistent features.

The conservative base in America has always had far right components to it, yet they were never able to dominate the US completely, not even in the 1930s before WW2. They were essentially fringe ideas for much of the period since WW2 to the point where they were basically ignored. For most of the past century, any far-right insurgency was almost always contained by the center-right element of the party. But not this time.

Once again we are witnesses to a rise of fascist far-right parties taking over in much of the world. Even though it was clearly the governing ideology of Trump himself, there were significant hurdles from the centrists that stopped his agenda. But those roadblocks were either systematically dismantled or eliminated through excommunication from the party. The near-absolute cover they gave him for his criminality, for his impeachable offenses, and for "the Big Lie" were signs that the party was weakening.

Now, the fascist wing has captured the Republican Party thoroughly. There is no accountability for the far-right members of the party, only those who might question their lies. The center-right Republican Party is now officially dead. It is just the fascists who are left.

God help us all.

Wrong.

The closest thing we have to fascism in the US is ANTIFA.

No. The closest thing to fascism is your beloved CIA. Actually they are fascists.

You can have your own opinion.

You cannot have your own facts.

You cannot have your own terms and definitions.

Yell all you want and nothing changes.

 

[gipper]

Far right movements spread around the world in the early 20th century. Americans have flirted with fascist ideology on and off, especially in the early 20th century--then in reaction to a strong progressive streak that dominated American culture. The opposition to democracy, nationalism, anti-immigrant demagoguery, the reliance on lies and propaganda, and authoritarianism are its most persistent features.

The conservative base in America has always had far right components to it, yet they were never able to dominate the US completely, not even in the 1930s before WW2. They were essentially fringe ideas for much of the period since WW2 to the point where they were basically ignored. For most of the past century, any far-right insurgency was almost always contained by the center-right element of the party. But not this time.

Once again we are witnesses to a rise of fascist far-right parties taking over in much of the world. Even though it was clearly the governing ideology of Trump himself, there were significant hurdles from the centrists that stopped his agenda. But those roadblocks were either systematically dismantled or eliminated through excommunication from the party. The near-absolute cover they gave him for his criminality, for his impeachable offenses, and for "the Big Lie" were signs that the party was weakening.

Now, the fascist wing has captured the Republican Party thoroughly. There is no accountability for the far-right members of the party, only those who might question their lies. The center-right Republican Party is now officially dead. It is just the fascists who are left.

God help us all.

Wrong.

The closest thing we have to fascism in the US is ANTIFA.

No. The closest thing to fascism is your beloved CIA. Actually they are fascists.

You can have your own opinion.

You cannot have your own facts.

You cannot have your own terms and definitions.

Yell all you want and nothing changes.

Right back at you.

 

[StormAl]

Far right movements spread around the world in the early 20th century. Americans have flirted with fascist ideology on and off, especially in the early 20th century--then in reaction to a strong progressive streak that dominated American culture. The opposition to democracy, nationalism, anti-immigrant demagoguery, the reliance on lies and propaganda, and authoritarianism are its most persistent features.

The conservative base in America has always had far right components to it, yet they were never able to dominate the US completely, not even in the 1930s before WW2. They were essentially fringe ideas for much of the period since WW2 to the point where they were basically ignored. For most of the past century, any far-right insurgency was almost always contained by the center-right element of the party. But not this time.

Once again we are witnesses to a rise of fascist far-right parties taking over in much of the world. Even though it was clearly the governing ideology of Trump himself, there were significant hurdles from the centrists that stopped his agenda. But those roadblocks were either systematically dismantled or eliminated through excommunication from the party. The near-absolute cover they gave him for his criminality, for his impeachable offenses, and for "the Big Lie" were signs that the party was weakening.

Now, the fascist wing has captured the Republican Party thoroughly. There is no accountability for the far-right members of the party, only those who might question their lies. The center-right Republican Party is now officially dead. It is just the fascists who are left.

God help us all.

Wrong.

The closest thing we have to fascism in the US is ANTIFA.

No. The closest thing to fascism is your beloved CIA. Actually they are fascists.

You can have your own opinion.

You cannot have your own facts.

You cannot have your own terms and definitions.

Yell all you want and nothing changes.

Right back at you.

That's why I abide by the facts, while you don't.

 

[gipper]

Far right movements spread around the world in the early 20th century. Americans have flirted with fascist ideology on and off, especially in the early 20th century--then in reaction to a strong progressive streak that dominated American culture. The opposition to democracy, nationalism, anti-immigrant demagoguery, the reliance on lies and propaganda, and authoritarianism are its most persistent features.

The conservative base in America has always had far right components to it, yet they were never able to dominate the US completely, not even in the 1930s before WW2. They were essentially fringe ideas for much of the period since WW2 to the point where they were basically ignored. For most of the past century, any far-right insurgency was almost always contained by the center-right element of the party. But not this time.

Once again we are witnesses to a rise of fascist far-right parties taking over in much of the world. Even though it was clearly the governing ideology of Trump himself, there were significant hurdles from the centrists that stopped his agenda. But those roadblocks were either systematically dismantled or eliminated through excommunication from the party. The near-absolute cover they gave him for his criminality, for his impeachable offenses, and for "the Big Lie" were signs that the party was weakening.

Now, the fascist wing has captured the Republican Party thoroughly. There is no accountability for the far-right members of the party, only those who might question their lies. The center-right Republican Party is now officially dead. It is just the fascists who are left.

God help us all.

Wrong.

The closest thing we have to fascism in the US is ANTIFA.

No. The closest thing to fascism is your beloved CIA. Actually they are fascists.

You can have your own opinion.

You cannot have your own facts.

You cannot have your own terms and definitions.

Yell all you want and nothing changes.

Right back at you.

That's why I abide by the facts, while you don't.

Yeah you’re all about facts.

 

[StormAl]

Far right movements spread around the world in the early 20th century. Americans have flirted with fascist ideology on and off, especially in the early 20th century--then in reaction to a strong progressive streak that dominated American culture. The opposition to democracy, nationalism, anti-immigrant demagoguery, the reliance on lies and propaganda, and authoritarianism are its most persistent features.

The conservative base in America has always had far right components to it, yet they were never able to dominate the US completely, not even in the 1930s before WW2. They were essentially fringe ideas for much of the period since WW2 to the point where they were basically ignored. For most of the past century, any far-right insurgency was almost always contained by the center-right element of the party. But not this time.

Once again we are witnesses to a rise of fascist far-right parties taking over in much of the world. Even though it was clearly the governing ideology of Trump himself, there were significant hurdles from the centrists that stopped his agenda. But those roadblocks were either systematically dismantled or eliminated through excommunication from the party. The near-absolute cover they gave him for his criminality, for his impeachable offenses, and for "the Big Lie" were signs that the party was weakening.

Now, the fascist wing has captured the Republican Party thoroughly. There is no accountability for the far-right members of the party, only those who might question their lies. The center-right Republican Party is now officially dead. It is just the fascists who are left.

God help us all.

Wrong.

The closest thing we have to fascism in the US is ANTIFA.

No. The closest thing to fascism is your beloved CIA. Actually they are fascists.

You can have your own opinion.

You cannot have your own facts.

You cannot have your own terms and definitions.

Yell all you want and nothing changes.

Right back at you.

That's why I abide by the facts, while you don't.

Yeah you’re all about facts.

And you are not.

 

[Soupnazi630]

The closest thing we have to fascism in the US is ANTIFA.

Actually, antifa might be full-fledged communists as communism entails, as you know, state ownership of everything. The old Soviet flag has been spotted at a number of their marches.

No doubt they are full fledged communists. It has not been spotted it is massively and universally displayed at all of their riots.

I never said they were fascists only that they are the closest thing to fascists which we have. They oppose the first amendment and wish to destroy the constitution.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Far right movements spread around the world in the early 20th century. Americans have flirted with fascist ideology on and off, especially in the early 20th century--then in reaction to a strong progressive streak that dominated American culture. The opposition to democracy, nationalism, anti-immigrant demagoguery, the reliance on lies and propaganda, and authoritarianism are its most persistent features.

The conservative base in America has always had far right components to it, yet they were never able to dominate the US completely, not even in the 1930s before WW2. They were essentially fringe ideas for much of the period since WW2 to the point where they were basically ignored. For most of the past century, any far-right insurgency was almost always contained by the center-right element of the party. But not this time.

Once again we are witnesses to a rise of fascist far-right parties taking over in much of the world. Even though it was clearly the governing ideology of Trump himself, there were significant hurdles from the centrists that stopped his agenda. But those roadblocks were either systematically dismantled or eliminated through excommunication from the party. The near-absolute cover they gave him for his criminality, for his impeachable offenses, and for "the Big Lie" were signs that the party was weakening.

Now, the fascist wing has captured the Republican Party thoroughly. There is no accountability for the far-right members of the party, only those who might question their lies. The center-right Republican Party is now officially dead. It is just the fascists who are left.

God help us all.

Wrong.

The closest thing we have to fascism in the US is ANTIFA.

No. The closest thing to fascism is your beloved CIA. Actually they are fascists.

You know nothing of them and they are not fascists they are a bureaucracy and you knpow nothing about them.

 

[WTH_Progs?]

Far right movements spread around the world in the early 20th century. Americans have flirted with fascist ideology on and off, especially in the early 20th century--then in reaction to a strong progressive streak that dominated American culture. The opposition to democracy, nationalism, anti-immigrant demagoguery, the reliance on lies and propaganda, and authoritarianism are its most persistent features.

The conservative base in America has always had far right components to it, yet they were never able to dominate the US completely, not even in the 1930s before WW2. They were essentially fringe ideas for much of the period since WW2 to the point where they were basically ignored. For most of the past century, any far-right insurgency was almost always contained by the center-right element of the party. But not this time.

Once again we are witnesses to a rise of fascist far-right parties taking over in much of the world. Even though it was clearly the governing ideology of Trump himself, there were significant hurdles from the centrists that stopped his agenda. But those roadblocks were either systematically dismantled or eliminated through excommunication from the party. The near-absolute cover they gave him for his criminality, for his impeachable offenses, and for "the Big Lie" were signs that the party was weakening.

Now, the fascist wing has captured the Republican Party thoroughly. There is no accountability for the far-right members of the party, only those who might question their lies. The center-right Republican Party is now officially dead. It is just the fascists who are left.

God help us all.

Neat story, scary and fictional.

 

[gipper]

Far right movements spread around the world in the early 20th century. Americans have flirted with fascist ideology on and off, especially in the early 20th century--then in reaction to a strong progressive streak that dominated American culture. The opposition to democracy, nationalism, anti-immigrant demagoguery, the reliance on lies and propaganda, and authoritarianism are its most persistent features.

The conservative base in America has always had far right components to it, yet they were never able to dominate the US completely, not even in the 1930s before WW2. They were essentially fringe ideas for much of the period since WW2 to the point where they were basically ignored. For most of the past century, any far-right insurgency was almost always contained by the center-right element of the party. But not this time.

Once again we are witnesses to a rise of fascist far-right parties taking over in much of the world. Even though it was clearly the governing ideology of Trump himself, there were significant hurdles from the centrists that stopped his agenda. But those roadblocks were either systematically dismantled or eliminated through excommunication from the party. The near-absolute cover they gave him for his criminality, for his impeachable offenses, and for "the Big Lie" were signs that the party was weakening.

Now, the fascist wing has captured the Republican Party thoroughly. There is no accountability for the far-right members of the party, only those who might question their lies. The center-right Republican Party is now officially dead. It is just the fascists who are left.

God help us all.

Wrong.

The closest thing we have to fascism in the US is ANTIFA.

No. The closest thing to fascism is your beloved CIA. Actually they are fascists.

You know nothing of them and they are not fascists they are a bureaucracy and you knpow nothing about them.

I know they’re lying murderers. Killed untold numbers of people including a president. I know your grandpa Dulles is a crook and a traitor who should have been hung.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Far right movements spread around the world in the early 20th century. Americans have flirted with fascist ideology on and off, especially in the early 20th century--then in reaction to a strong progressive streak that dominated American culture. The opposition to democracy, nationalism, anti-immigrant demagoguery, the reliance on lies and propaganda, and authoritarianism are its most persistent features.

The conservative base in America has always had far right components to it, yet they were never able to dominate the US completely, not even in the 1930s before WW2. They were essentially fringe ideas for much of the period since WW2 to the point where they were basically ignored. For most of the past century, any far-right insurgency was almost always contained by the center-right element of the party. But not this time.

Once again we are witnesses to a rise of fascist far-right parties taking over in much of the world. Even though it was clearly the governing ideology of Trump himself, there were significant hurdles from the centrists that stopped his agenda. But those roadblocks were either systematically dismantled or eliminated through excommunication from the party. The near-absolute cover they gave him for his criminality, for his impeachable offenses, and for "the Big Lie" were signs that the party was weakening.

Now, the fascist wing has captured the Republican Party thoroughly. There is no accountability for the far-right members of the party, only those who might question their lies. The center-right Republican Party is now officially dead. It is just the fascists who are left.

God help us all.

Wrong.

The closest thing we have to fascism in the US is ANTIFA.

No. The closest thing to fascism is your beloved CIA. Actually they are fascists.

You know nothing of them and they are not fascists they are a bureaucracy and you knpow nothing about them.

I know they’re lying murderers. Killed untold numbers of people including a president. I know your grandpa Dulles is a crook and a traitor who should have been hung.

You do not know that.

You know I have proven you wrong time and time again and I have proven you are an uneducated fool total douchebag.