flacaltenn
Diamond Member
Ya...they fired him...but I can’t believe no one was aware his general views.
There has been a rise in far right populist authoritarian movements around the world, and they’ve been busy cleaning themselves up and presenting themselves as mainstream. Goodbye tattoos skinheads, hello Brooks Brothers suits and and ties,
Far-Right German Party Official Caught Talking About 'Gassing' Immigrants
“We can still shoot them all afterwards or gas them, whichever you like. I don’t care either way.”www.vice.com
They're super sensitive over in Germany.. I was constantly embarrassed about folks asking if I was Jewish and then dramatically apologizing to me..
I take the WHOLE quote as inconsiderate dark satire.. Not advocating bringing in more immigrants to "shoot them or gas them".. It was a poor attempt to say the issue was GREAT for his party...
I'm certain worst "honesty" happens in bars around DC nightly...
Yes they are, and it led to a deep cultural shift in Germany. What I think is happening...just a guess...is that the memories of WW2 are receding as those who lived it are dying out. I think you are seeing in SOME of the younger generation rejecting some of that. But really it's not just Germany - we are seeing this, in conjunction with a loss of democratic freedoms in Eastern European countries as well.
It's NOT primarily hate.. It's preservation of culture/politics. It's the right of every nation to take that into account.. Especially for REFUGEES who are NOT totally sold on living in Germany.. Just GOING there to survive..
It's a problem that SHOULD have been solved with adequate worldwide funding and help for setting up refugees in North Africa and around Syria.. If ya ASK most of those people on the rafts and boats where THEY want to live -- I'll wager MOST of them would say their "home country"..
So it's NOT immigration in the classic sense. And there ARE dangers that they will react badly to the radical change of culture, language, politics.. Or thru the stupidity of EU leaders they will ISOLATE them rather than assimilate them on purpose.. Which is LARGELY a bad thing that HAS happened.. Not handled well at all by the EU..
I did want to say something on this....
It's NOT primarily hate.. It's preservation of culture/politics.
I think the line between the two is very very fuzzy. A lot of hate and resulting violence, is generated under the rationale of "preserving culture/politics" - when exactly does it cross the line?
It crosses the line because OUR GOVT refuses to do it's primary job of Borders/Naturalization/Immigration.. THUS --- kids in cages.. THUS 80% of "asylum requests" refused but ONLY AFTER 2 or 3 year WAITS on court dates.. Or IGNORING the border all together. As in EVERY Dem candidate in the primary did when they raised their hands to DECRIMINALIZE crossing the border illegal..
As I've ALWAYS SAID -- If I THOUGHT my govt was competent and doing its job on immigration -- I WOULD BE in favor of MORE GENEROUS immigration than BOTH sad sucking and dying political parties are offering..
But that's not even a possibility in the current shouting shit show we got now..
But more than 1/2 of America hasn't figured out that our Fed Govt cant even do their PRIMARY DUTIES -- like ELECTIONS and IMMIGRATION and yet -- they vote and support more POWER -- more muscular Federal power every funcking chance they get..
THAT -- is what pisses off the rest of America that WANTS MANAGED and INTELLIGENT policy on most everything.. Makes them angry enough to HATE and condone violence..
If ya DONT FIX the systemic Swamp Rot -- That hate and violence is gonna manifest in the streets and our communities..