"Far Right" can't win for GOP? ...BS!

[Skylar]

Romney was a pathetic candidate who wasn't a real conservative.

Then why did conservative nominate him instead of a real conservative?

Conservatives didn't, Republicans did

70% of republicans are self proclaimed conservatives.

if they can explain it. Bohner says he's a conservative. So does McConnell, doesn't mean much does it? They are a joke

Says you. Who is a better source on Boehner's political beliefs......you who doesn't know Boehner, hasn't met him, has never been in the same room with him?

Or Boehner?

By any rational standard, Boehner is a far better source on his own political beliefs than you are pretending to speak for him.

 

[Synthaholic]

The Establishment has all the money and power within the party and Conservatives fight a constant uphill battle.

Last time I looked it was still one man one vote.

 

[Synthaholic]

However, once they have overcome this obstacle, defeating the Democrat is a piece of cake.

Like I said: delusional.

Less than 1/4 of the voters call themselves conservative.

 

[thanatos144]

How left do you have to be to think Romney was a conservative?????

 

[Skylar]

How left do you have to be to think Romney was a conservative?????

For fuck's sake, the OP has argued that Bill Clinton was a conservative. If Clinton is a conservative, then so is Romney. Unless of course the OP doesn't have the slightest clue what he's talking about.

 

[thanatos144]

How left do you have to be to think Romney was a conservative?????

For fuck's sake, the OP has argued that Bill Clinton was a conservative. If Clinton is a conservative, then so is Romney. Unless of course the OP doesn't have the slightest clue what he's talking about.

Clinton was a pragmatist....And far more conservative then Romney.....That should tell you how liner Mitt was... But I know you liberal have a hard time getting over your bigotry for Mormons.

 

[Jroc]

Your polls are meaningless most people dont even know what true conservatism is.

It doesn't matter what YOU believe conservatism means. It matters what they do. As they outnumber you by orders and orders of magnitude. And have far more impact on an election than you do alone.

You're insisting that I ignore people on their OWN self identified political affiliation and instead believe you pretending to speak for them.

Um, no. What else have you got?

All we need is a person who can articulate conservatives principles and there are a few now who can do it

Save that most people aren't conservative. Most are independent, liberal or moderate. And far right candidates don't appeal to any of these groups. Hell, even conservatives don't want far right candidates.

No one does.

Most voters are conservative

Your polls are meaningless most people dont even know what true conservatism is.

It doesn't matter what YOU believe conservatism means. It matters what they do. As they outnumber you by orders and orders of magnitude. And have far more impact on an election than you do alone.

You're insisting that I ignore people on their OWN self identified political affiliation and instead believe you pretending to speak for them.

Um, no. What else have you got?

All we need is a person who can articulate conservatives principles and there are a few now who can do it

Save that most people aren't conservative. Most are independent, liberal or moderate. And far right candidates don't appeal to any of these groups. Hell, even conservatives don't want far right candidates.

No one does.

Most people are conservative when it's articulated properly above all the clouds of bullshit perpetrated by people like you and fake.

 

[Jroc]

How left do you have to be to think Romney was a conservative?????

For fuck's sake, the OP has argued that Bill Clinton was a conservative. If Clinton is a conservative, then so is Romney. Unless of course the OP doesn't have the slightest clue what he's talking about.

Clinton was a pragmatist....And far more conservative then Romney.....That should tell you how liner Mitt was... But I know you liberal have a hard time getting over your bigotry for Mormons.

The only religion liberals seem to like is the muslim religion.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

How left do you have to be to think Romney was a conservative?????

For fuck's sake, the OP has argued that Bill Clinton was a conservative. If Clinton is a conservative, then so is Romney. Unless of course the OP doesn't have the slightest clue what he's talking about.

Clinton was a pragmatist....And far more conservative then Romney.....That should tell you how liner Mitt was... But I know you liberal have a hard time getting over your bigotry for Mormons.

The only religion liberals seem to like is the muslim religion.

That's utter crap as well, so what? Maybe you should clean your own house first, then bitch eh? Advice, from Jesus no less, so I'm sure you'll ignore it.

 

[Skylar]

Your polls are meaningless most people dont even know what true conservatism is.

It doesn't matter what YOU believe conservatism means. It matters what they do. As they outnumber you by orders and orders of magnitude. And have far more impact on an election than you do alone.

You're insisting that I ignore people on their OWN self identified political affiliation and instead believe you pretending to speak for them.

Um, no. What else have you got?

All we need is a person who can articulate conservatives principles and there are a few now who can do it

Save that most people aren't conservative. Most are independent, liberal or moderate. And far right candidates don't appeal to any of these groups. Hell, even conservatives don't want far right candidates.

No one does.

Most voters are conservative

The voters say differently.

Remember, its only inside the right wing echo chamber that any nonsense you want to imagine is accepted as evidence. Back in the real world, you citing you doesn't amount to much.

While Gallup is a hell of a lot more credible than you are. As is ANY of those voters who contradict you.

 

[Skylar]

How left do you have to be to think Romney was a conservative?????

For fuck's sake, the OP has argued that Bill Clinton was a conservative. If Clinton is a conservative, then so is Romney. Unless of course the OP doesn't have the slightest clue what he's talking about.

Clinton was a pragmatist....And far more conservative then Romney.....That should tell you how liner Mitt was... But I know you liberal have a hard time getting over your bigotry for Mormons.

So advocating tax increases for the wealthy is a conservative ideal?

Advocating universal healthcare is a conservative ideal?

Arguing that Roe V. Wade was the right decision is a conservative ideal?

Blaming budget impasses on republicans is a conservative ideal?

Supporting affirmative action is a conservative ideal?

Advocating adding sexual orientation to Hate Crimes legislation is a conservative ideal?

Pushing green energy tax credits is a conservative ideal?

Signing the Kyoto Accords on Climate Change is a conservative ideal?

Supporting an assault weapons ban is a conservative ideal?

Supporting gun registration and waiting periods for gun purchases is a conservative ideal?

Who knew?

 

[Jroc]

Romney was a pathetic candidate who wasn't a real conservative.

Then why did conservative nominate him instead of a real conservative?

Conservatives didn't, Republicans did

70% of republicans are self proclaimed conservatives.

if they can explain it. Bohner says he's a conservative. So does McConnell, doesn't mean much does it? They are a joke

Says you. Who is a better source on Boehner's political beliefs......you who doesn't know Boehner, hasn't met him, has never been in the same room with him?

Or Boehner?

By any rational standard, Boehner is a far better source on his own political beliefs than you are pretending to speak for him.

Actions speak louder than words sweetie. Boehner attacks real conservatives and capitulates to Obama along with his even more spineless wonder McConnell. They are an embarrassment

 

[Jroc]

Your polls are meaningless most people dont even know what true conservatism is.

It doesn't matter what YOU believe conservatism means. It matters what they do. As they outnumber you by orders and orders of magnitude. And have far more impact on an election than you do alone.

You're insisting that I ignore people on their OWN self identified political affiliation and instead believe you pretending to speak for them.

Um, no. What else have you got?

All we need is a person who can articulate conservatives principles and there are a few now who can do it

Save that most people aren't conservative. Most are independent, liberal or moderate. And far right candidates don't appeal to any of these groups. Hell, even conservatives don't want far right candidates.

No one does.

Most voters are conservative

The voters say differently.

Remember, its only inside the right wing echo chamber that any nonsense you want to imagine is accepted as evidence. Back in the real world, you citing you doesn't amount to much.

While Gallup is a hell of a lot more credible than you are. As is ANY of those voters who contradict you.

How left do you have to be to think Romney was a conservative?????

For fuck's sake, the OP has argued that Bill Clinton was a conservative. If Clinton is a conservative, then so is Romney. Unless of course the OP doesn't have the slightest clue what he's talking about.

Clinton was a pragmatist....And far more conservative then Romney.....That should tell you how liner Mitt was... But I know you liberal have a hard time getting over your bigotry for Mormons.

So advocating tax increases for the wealthy is a conservative ideal?

Advocating universal healthcare is a conservative ideal?

Arguing that Roe V. Wade was the right decision is a conservative ideal?

Blaming budget impasses on republicans is a conservative ideal?

Supporting affirmative action is a conservative ideal?

Advocating adding sexual orientation to Hate Crimes legislation is a conservative ideal?

Pushing green energy tax credits is a conservative ideal?

Signing the Kyoto Accords on Climate Change is a conservative ideal?

Supporting an assault weapons ban is a conservative ideal?

Supporting gun registration and waiting periods for gun purchases is a conservative ideal?

Who knew?

You should be pushing Ted Cruz then. D you think he'd be easily beat? Right lol..... Lets hope she runs on those issues Hilary has been discredited for the fraud she is. those issues you listed if enacted would mean the destruction of America has we know it. You're a nut She couldn't win on those issues even if she had any credibility left

 

[edthecynic]

How left do you have to be to think Romney was a conservative?????

For fuck's sake, the OP has argued that Bill Clinton was a conservative. If Clinton is a conservative, then so is Romney. Unless of course the OP doesn't have the slightest clue what he's talking about.

You nailed it there!

Bossy claims that insurrectionist Wing-nut Cruz is not an extremist when he supports the anti-government-tyranny view of the Second Amendment which dates back to the Black Panthers in the late 1960s.

Ted Cruz: 2nd Amendment Is 'Ultimate Check Against Government Tyranny'

 

[Skylar]

Your polls are meaningless most people dont even know what true conservatism is.

It doesn't matter what YOU believe conservatism means. It matters what they do. As they outnumber you by orders and orders of magnitude. And have far more impact on an election than you do alone.

You're insisting that I ignore people on their OWN self identified political affiliation and instead believe you pretending to speak for them.

Um, no. What else have you got?

All we need is a person who can articulate conservatives principles and there are a few now who can do it

Save that most people aren't conservative. Most are independent, liberal or moderate. And far right candidates don't appeal to any of these groups. Hell, even conservatives don't want far right candidates.

No one does.

Most voters are conservative

The voters say differently.

Remember, its only inside the right wing echo chamber that any nonsense you want to imagine is accepted as evidence. Back in the real world, you citing you doesn't amount to much.

While Gallup is a hell of a lot more credible than you are. As is ANY of those voters who contradict you.

How left do you have to be to think Romney was a conservative?????

For fuck's sake, the OP has argued that Bill Clinton was a conservative. If Clinton is a conservative, then so is Romney. Unless of course the OP doesn't have the slightest clue what he's talking about.

Clinton was a pragmatist....And far more conservative then Romney.....That should tell you how liner Mitt was... But I know you liberal have a hard time getting over your bigotry for Mormons.

So advocating tax increases for the wealthy is a conservative ideal?

Advocating universal healthcare is a conservative ideal?

Arguing that Roe V. Wade was the right decision is a conservative ideal?

Blaming budget impasses on republicans is a conservative ideal?

Supporting affirmative action is a conservative ideal?

Advocating adding sexual orientation to Hate Crimes legislation is a conservative ideal?

Pushing green energy tax credits is a conservative ideal?

Signing the Kyoto Accords on Climate Change is a conservative ideal?

Supporting an assault weapons ban is a conservative ideal?

Supporting gun registration and waiting periods for gun purchases is a conservative ideal?

Who knew?

You should be pushing Ted Cruz then. D you think he'd be easily beat?

I double dog dare you to run Cruz.

The problem is....conservatives don't want far right candidates. Nobody does. Not the liberals, not the moderates, not republicans, not democrats, not independents. So how can we both get Cruz, our dream candidate for the GOP.....when the GOP doesn't want him? And neither does anyone else.

 

[Skylar]

Then why did conservative nominate him instead of a real conservative?

Conservatives didn't, Republicans did

70% of republicans are self proclaimed conservatives.

if they can explain it. Bohner says he's a conservative. So does McConnell, doesn't mean much does it? They are a joke

Says you. Who is a better source on Boehner's political beliefs......you who doesn't know Boehner, hasn't met him, has never been in the same room with him?

Or Boehner?

By any rational standard, Boehner is a far better source on his own political beliefs than you are pretending to speak for him.

Actions speak louder than words sweetie. Boehner attacks real conservatives and capitulates to Obama along with his even more spineless wonder McConnell. They are an embarrassment

'Real Conservatives' according to who? According to you. Citing yourself. And your source sucks.

See how this works?

 

[Jroc]

Conservatives didn't, Republicans did

70% of republicans are self proclaimed conservatives.

if they can explain it. Bohner says he's a conservative. So does McConnell, doesn't mean much does it? They are a joke

Says you. Who is a better source on Boehner's political beliefs......you who doesn't know Boehner, hasn't met him, has never been in the same room with him?

Or Boehner?

By any rational standard, Boehner is a far better source on his own political beliefs than you are pretending to speak for him.

Actions speak louder than words sweetie. Boehner attacks real conservatives and capitulates to Obama along with his even more spineless wonder McConnell. They are an embarrassment

'Real Conservatives' according to who? According to you. Citing yourself. And your source sucks.

See how this works?

You have no credibility you support pay for play Hilary Clinton. Ted Cruz would destroy Hilary in a debate of ideas. She's scripted and unpolished not like Obama the expert demagogue

 

[Skylar]

70% of republicans are self proclaimed conservatives.

if they can explain it. Bohner says he's a conservative. So does McConnell, doesn't mean much does it? They are a joke

Says you. Who is a better source on Boehner's political beliefs......you who doesn't know Boehner, hasn't met him, has never been in the same room with him?

Or Boehner?

By any rational standard, Boehner is a far better source on his own political beliefs than you are pretending to speak for him.

Actions speak louder than words sweetie. Boehner attacks real conservatives and capitulates to Obama along with his even more spineless wonder McConnell. They are an embarrassment

'Real Conservatives' according to who? According to you. Citing yourself. And your source sucks.

See how this works?

You have no credibility you support pay for play Hilary Clinton. Ted Cruz would destroy Hilary in a debate of ideas. She's scripted and unpolished not like Obama the expert demagogue

Laughing....translation: You'll ignore anyone or anything that doesn't ape everything you already believe.

Dude, ignore me all you like. Its not me I'm quoting. But Gallup. And the 58% of folks that DON'T self identify at conservatives. You have to ignore me, everyone of them, Gallup, Pew, everyone. All to cling to a personal opinion you can't back with jack shit.

You don't do well outside the right wing echo chamber, do you?

 

[Boss]

A GOP candidate has never won the white house without at least 41% of the moderate vote. They couldn't muster that with Romney or McCain. So the notion that they could have with someone like Bachmann or Gingrich is absolutely hilarious.

But "moderates" are mostly Conservative... are you not paying attention? Conservative philosophy, by it's very nature, is a moderate viewpoint as opposed to a radical one. That's what Conservatism IS. Liberals have morphed it into some ridiculous radical ideology that basically no one has but that doesn't mean that's what Conservatism means just because Liberals say so.

We don't have any way of knowing if Bachmann or Gingrich could have defeated Obama. All we can do is speculate based on what did happen. Conservatives split their votes between Bachmann, Gingrich, Santorum and Cain while establishment GOPers voted in solidarity for Romney. He lost the general election because he didn't have a Conservative message and Conservatives stayed home.

And what we are currently seeing happen is, the Liberals are keeping up the momentum with the rhetoric of "far right" and "extremist reactionary right" because that has been working for them. The Establishment has adopted the same tactic, which is astonishing to me. You'd think after two ass-kickings in a row they'd get a clue, but apparently not. They are poised to nominate another moderate like Bush or Christie and run to a "middle" that's just not there.

Any Moderate who is not going to vote for a true Conservative, is not going to vote for a so-called "moderate" Republican because they don't stand for anything... they have no message... they have no vision... they can't articulate why their wishy-washy half-ass, ever-capitulating style is something we should vote for. They end up pulling a few "desperate" Conservatives who vote for them while holding their nose and the bulk of Conservatives (who are moderates) stay at home. The remaining "moderates" are going to vote for the Liberal and always were.

 

[Boss]

The problem is....conservatives don't want far right candidates. Nobody does.

But WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY "FAR RIGHT?"

I've been asking this question since the OP and it hasn't been explained. Who the hell are you talking about? What policies are they advocating that are "far" or "extreme" in any way?

You've created a false ideology of Conservatism and in your pea-brain minds, that's what you believe a Conservative is. We all want to ban homosexuality and abortion! We want to kick everyone off welfare and not feed starving kids! We want to give massive tax breaks to the rich and start wars all over the place... that's what a Conservative is to you. And any time you hear "Tea Party" mentioned, you automatically think of this stereotype you've constructed.

Conservatism... TRUE Conservatism, is a philosophy. It does not confine itself to any particular ideology. By definition, a Conservative is not a radical extremist. That voids conservative philosophy. So if you do have some radical zealot out there, they aren't Conservative.

Now... I do not expect Liberals to get any of this or agree with me. This thread was not posted for Liberal opinions. I am seeking to address the so-called Republican "moderates" who want to distance themselves from Conservative philosophy because they are idiots who don't understand it. They've somehow been brainwashed by the Liberal Left and the mainstream media into believing Conservative means "far right" when it doesn't mean that.... can't mean that and still be Conservative.