FACT CHECK: Is Biden a 'liar' for claiming GOP wants Social Security and Medicare cuts?

[postman]

Biden’s claim that Republicans have pushed for an end to

Funny how Biden got quotes from Tim Scott and Mike Lee to do just that.

 

[Nostra]

Newsweek has compiled a list of prominent Republicans who have previously either explicitly, or implicitly, called for cuts to Medicare or Social Security payments.

Mitch McConnell ​

Speaking in October 2018, McConnell called "entitlements," a term usually deployed to describe welfare payments like Medicare and Social Security, "the real drivers of the debt," adding they need to be adjusted "to the demographics of America in the future."

McConnell also described the GOP's failure on the Affordable Care Act, better known as Obamacare, as "the one disappointment of this Congress from a Republican point of view."

Ron Johnson​

In August, Republican Senator Ron Johnson suggested Medicare and Social Security should cease being federal entitlement programs, and instead require approval every year as "discretionary spending."

"If you qualify for the entitlement, you just get it no matter what the cost," he said. "And our problem in this country is that more than 70 percent of our federal budget, of our federal spending, is all mandatory spending. It's on automatic pilot. It never, you just don't do proper oversight. You don't get in there and fix the programs going bankrupt."
In response, House Majority leader Chuck Schumer said: "The junior senator from Wisconsin wants to put Medicare and Social Security on the chopping block."

Speaking to The Washington Post, Johnson's office later denied he wanted to end Medicare or Social Security.

Lindsey Graham​

In June, South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham argued "entitlement reform" was needed to stop the U.S. from becoming like Greece, during a debate with Vermont's Bernie Sanders.

Graham made a similar argument nearly a decade earlier in December 2012, when he called for "real structural reforms to save Medicare and Social Security from bankruptcy and prevent our country from becoming Greece."

Marco Rubio ​

Speaking to two Politico journalists in 2017, Florida Senator Marco Rubio called for "structural changes" in U.S. welfare provisions.

"We have to do two things," he said. "We have to generate economic growth which generates revenue while reducing spending. That will mean instituting structural changes to Social Security and Medicare for the future."

Mike Lee​

Utah Senator Mike Lee claimed his goal was to "phase out Social Security" in February 2010, during a campaign stop in his state's Cache Valley.

He commented: "People who advise me politically always tell me it's dangerous and I tell them, 'In that case, it's not worth my running.' That's why I'm doing this, to get rid of that. Medicare and Medicaid are of the same sort, they need to be pulled up."

The senator told Newsweek in a statement in November that this is no longer his position, commenting: "This attack by my opponent is straight out of the Democrat playbook.

"Throughout my first campaign and from the day I took office, I have been clear: we must honor our commitments to retirees. That has been reflected in every vote I've cast, every bill I've introduced, and every speech I've given regarding Social Security."

Rick Scott ​

Whilst he hasn't explicitly called for Medicare or Social Security to be axed, Senator Rick Scott chaired the National Republican Senatorial Committee when it proposed all federal laws should be eliminated after five years, unless Congress votes to keep them. The proposal was made as part of the 2022 Rescue America plan, though Mitch McConnell insisted it wasn't party policy.


A Washington Post editorial warned the proposal could "could mean an end to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, everything else mentioned above—and potentially more."

List of Republicans who have suggested cutting Medicare, Social Security

Biden claimed "some Republicans want Medicare and Social Security to sunset" during his State of the Union address.

www.newsweek.com

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Notice the need for libtard spin on every quote due to the fact not a single quote says they want to end SS.

 

[Nostra]

OK
What percentage of Republicans voted for SS?
How many Republican bills expanded it?
How many Republican bills sought to water down SS or reduce COLA?

Troll is already having to crawfish.

 

[postman]

Troll claims he can read minds.

The Dimtard Go-To move when their lies are exposed.

Republicans want to end medicare, just like they wanted to end Obamacare.

 

[Nostra]

Actions speak louder than words

Want a hint?
Read how many USMB Republicans support SS and Medicare

More Troll crawfishing.

 

[Papageorgio]

Biden’s accusations.

“Let us commit here tonight that the full faith and credit of the United States of America will never, ever be questioned. So my — many of — some of my Republican friends want to take the economy hostage — I get it — unless I agree to their economic plans. All of you at home should know what those plans are. Instead of making the wealthy pay their fair share, some Republicans — some Republicans want Medicare and Social Security to sunset. I’m not saying it’s a majority.” — President Joe Biden, State of the Union address.

Biden’s claim that Republicans have pushed for an end to Medicare and Social Security during debt ceiling negotiations is false.

In fact, Republicans had explicitly said neither program is up for discussion as they consider which spending cuts to demand in exchange for their support of raising the debt limit.

FACT CHECK: Is Biden a 'liar' for claiming GOP wants Social Security and Medicare cuts?

Yes, he is a deceptive politician, as most are.

 

[1srelluc]

Eliminate SSDI and SS would be in good shape.

I'd be in favor of moving the DI part to another agency like the IRS.....Let those 87K new agents work DI claims.

 

[Nostra]

 

[maybelooking]

Both sides have FUCKED this up beyond belief. And both sides should come together to fix it. But that's simply not the way in American politics.

Just keep blaming the other side, doing your best to divide the country, while you fuck everyone right in the ass.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Rick Scott is NOT the GOP, duh.

Medicare will be BANKRUPT next year unless its fixed, and the democrats are whining about "GOP cuts"?!

How fucking stupid is that?

Medicare won't be "cut" by the GOP, Medicare "dies" under democrats.

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They will do anything, no matter how ridiculous, if they think it will keep a single Republican scared enough to vote demonicrat.

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[forkup]

Biden’s accusations.

“Let us commit here tonight that the full faith and credit of the United States of America will never, ever be questioned. So my — many of — some of my Republican friends want to take the economy hostage — I get it — unless I agree to their economic plans. All of you at home should know what those plans are. Instead of making the wealthy pay their fair share, some Republicans — some Republicans want Medicare and Social Security to sunset. I’m not saying it’s a majority.” — President Joe Biden, State of the Union address.

Biden’s claim that Republicans have pushed for an end to Medicare and Social Security during debt ceiling negotiations is false.

In fact, Republicans had explicitly said neither program is up for discussion as they consider which spending cuts to demand in exchange for their support of raising the debt limit.

FACT CHECK: Is Biden a 'liar' for claiming GOP wants Social Security and Medicare cuts?

some Republicans want Medicare and Social Security to sunset.

Note the Bold. Biden specified SOME. You heard ALL. Which is different. That's why he didn't lie at all. He put a qualifier on there.

I'll explain it in another way. Defund the police was an argument made by SOME Democrats. Not much interested in that distinction the GOP used it as a wedge issue trying to claim ALL Democrats wanted to defund it. This despite REPEATED denunciations of the concept in interviews and policy positions by the Biden campaign.

I don't like intellectual dishonesty. Then or now. I do like seeing people like you setting their hair on fire because it is an effective political tool. Especcially because I know your objections are just as political.

Biden’s claim that Republicans have pushed for an end to Medicare and Social Security during debt ceiling negotiations is false.

Some sure as hell have.

 

[Blaster]

FLASHBACK: Biden introduced bill to sunset all federal programs — including Social Security

While a senator from Delaware, now-President Biden introduced legislation to sunset all federal programs, including Social Security and Medicare, after four years.

www.foxnews.com

 

[jknowgood]

Actions speak louder than words

Want a hint?
Read how many USMB Republicans support SS and Medicare

Why would we want to end what we have been paying into?

 

[Nostra]

Biden is a proven lying sack.

Deal with it, Bidenista Cultist morons.

 

[postman]

Biden is a proven lying sack.

Deal with it, Bidenista Cultist morons.

Biden didn't lie, he reported on the words of Rick Scott and Mike Lee, among others wanting to end SS

 

[Nostra]

Biden didn't lie, he reported on the words of Rick Scott and Mike Lee, among others wanting to end SS

He lied, deal with is Cultist moron.

 

[Thinker101]

Note the Bold. Biden specified SOME. You heard ALL. Which is different. That's why he didn't lie at all. He put a qualifier on there.

I'll explain it in another way. Defund the police was an argument made by SOME Democrats. Not much interested in that distinction the GOP used it as a wedge issue trying to claim ALL Democrats wanted to defund it. This despite REPEATED denunciations of the concept in interviews and policy positions by the Biden campaign.

I don't like intellectual dishonesty. Then or now. I do like seeing people like you setting their hair on fire because it is an effective political tool. Especcially because I know your objections are just as political.



Some sure as hell have.

Sure, that must be why you ass-wipes prefer "sunset".

 

[Sixties Fan]

Before State of Union attack on GOP, Biden pushed Social Security sunset, fed spending freezes

The legislation Biden put forward in the Senate back in July of 1975 would have terminated “all provisions of law” which allow “new budget authority for a period of more than four fiscal years,”…

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Fact Check: Joe Biden Has Advocated Cutting Social Security for 40 Years

“I tried with Senator Grassley back in the 1980s to freeze all government spending, including Social Security, including everything,” Biden said in 1995.

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FLASHBACK: Biden introduced bill to sunset all federal programs — including Social Security

While a senator from Delaware, now-President Biden introduced legislation to sunset all federal programs, including Social Security and Medicare, after four years.

www.foxnews.com

Biden doubled down on his legislation in the '90s, saying on the Senate floor that his bill would affect Social Security.
"When I argued that we should freeze federal spending, I meant Social Security, as well," Biden said. "I meant Medicare and Medicaid. I meant veterans’ benefits."
"I meant every single solitary thing in the federal government," he said. "And I not only tried it once, I tried it twice, I tried it a third time, and I tried it a fourth time."

This is 2023. The ones trying to put an end to SS, Medicare and Medicaid......and they continue to say so.....are some Republicans.

Debt ceiling raise, for Republicans now, is dependent on making many cuts, including all of those three.
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President Biden ripped Republicans during his State of the Union address for efforts to use the nation’s debt ceiling as leverage to extract spending cuts from Democrats.

“Some of my Republican friends want to take the economy hostage, I get it, unless I agree to their economic plans,” Biden said Tuesday night as the White House gears up for a budget battle with House Republicans

“Next month when I offer my fiscal plan, I ask my Republican friends to lay down their plan as well. I really mean it.”

GOP lawmakers have yet to unify around a specific plan to cut spending and reduce the debt in exchange for lifting the borrowing limit. With just four months until the Treasury Department could run out of ways to stave off a default, time is running down for Republicans to find common ground among each other, let alone Democrats.

Budget caps​

Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) has voiced support for limits on new discretionary funding, after he agreed to work toward a balanced budget in 10 years as part of the concessions he made with GOP rebels to secure the Speakership gavel last month.
Many Republicans have looked to nondefense programs as a way to trim expenditures and capping spending other than Social Security and Medicare at fiscal 2023 levels.
“The Speaker has indicated his commitment to what we’ve all agreed to fighting to make sure that we restrict spending,” Rep. Chip Roy (R-Texas), among the loudest conservatives pressing for steep cuts, told The Hill.
“He’s been pretty clear about needing caps, and we’re going to cap 2024 spending.”
But there have been concerns among Republicans amid talks of budget caps over how it could impact defense spending, which makes up much of what the government spends outside of entitlement programs.

Work requirements​

There has been some early chatter around work requirements for safety net programs, specifically Medicaid and the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP).
Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) told Semafor that he has begun “socializing” a pitch to other Republicans that involves work requirements for Medicaid.
Others have expressed openness to the idea.
“I think, generally, able-bodied people that don’t have small kids and meet all the criteria should be seeking work,” Rep. Don Bacon (Neb.), a GOP moderate, told The Hill, saying he was open to the idea.
Gaetz also led a group of five conservatives — Reps. Andy Biggs (Ariz.), Dan Bishop (N.C.), Lauren Boebert (Colo.) and Norman — in a letter to Bidenahead of his address on Tuesday, urging “structural reforms” for SNAP to cut spending amid talks.
Both pitches are unlikely to head anywhere in the Democratic-led Senate.

COVID-19 relief funds​

Some Republicans are looking to take back unspent COVID-19 pandemic relief funds from state governments as they plot their next steps in talks.

Rep. Tom Cole (R-Okla.), chair of the House Rules Committee, told NBC News that the idea “ought to be on the table,” and “certainly could” fit in whatever legislative deal Republicans hope to strike with Democrats in the coming months.
But some Republicans are concerned that they could face legal hurdles and opposition from Democratic lawmakers, who are less willing to claw back the money.

Entitlements ​

Biden took aim Tuesday at Republicans for proposed reforms to programs like Social Security and Medicare, accusing some of wanting to cut the programs in remarks that prompted immediate GOP pushback.

“Some Republicans want Social Security and Medicare to sunset,” Biden said to jeers from Republicans. The president appeared to be referring to a proposal by Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.) to sunset all federal legislation after five years.

Not long after Biden’s remarks on Tuesday, Scott addressed the president’s comments, calling him confused while doubling down on his proposal, which some top Republicans distanced themselves from last year.

“In my plan, I suggested the following: All federal legislation sunsets in five years. If a law is worth keeping, Congress can pass it again,” Scott said.

The exchange comes as Republican leaders have sought to quell concerns that GOP lawmakers will target Social Security and Medicare in debt ceiling negotiations, which McCarthy has personally ruled out.

Here are the spending cuts Republicans have pitched in debt limit talks

President Biden ripped Republicans during his State of the Union address for efforts to use the nation’s debt ceiling as leverage to extract spending cuts from Democrats. “Some of my Republican friends want to take the economy hostage, I get it, unless I agree to their economic plans,” Biden...

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They bring it up again and again, now, in order to attempt to get more people to agree in cutting any and all of those much needed funds which Americans will never agree to see done away with.

And to cut Covid fund? Really ?

 

[postman]

He lied, deal with is Cultist moron.

Did you read Mike Lee wanted to pull SS up by the roots

"It will be my objective to phase out Social Security. To pull it out by the roots and get rid of it."

 

[jwoodie]

Biden's speech writers chose his words carefully. He used the term sunset rather than cut, which is technically correct even if intentionally misleading. The GOP has suggested replacing the currently inadequate funding system for Social Security with a more productive investment-based system. In that event, the less productive system would eventually "sunset" in favor of the more productive system.