progressive hunter
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theres no such thing as hate speech,, only speech you hate,,Either I'm not following you or we just have a different take. To be fair to my younger self, my capability for hate speech was minimal...although I was pretty good about stomping up the stairs on occasion at home as a typical teen ha.according to your criteria thats hate speech,,,I hated his hate speech yesthats just speech you hated,,I will politely disagree. Miniscule example, but an example. As a kid I played softball. One game I clearly recall during the playoffs. Now, many claim girls sports should not matter to anyone, mostly because they don't think they are important imo. Anyway, it can be a big deal to some girls. So, this game turned into one of those things that are now filmed instantly from the crowd. The fans were loud and mostly yelling at the umpires. There wer bad calls, so one man who must have had absolutely no life other than his daughter's success playing softball went overboard in words and deeds. That guy had no business going ballistic, cussing the umps, getting on the field, and starting a fight-which he did. All I clearly remember about that guy was his size...I have him around 7 ft 280 lol when he was maybe normal height for a male just heavy set. Point is had that angry guy not been there, there would have been no chaos, no fist fights on the field (around 15 jumped in from both sides)-parents not the players, and mayhem commenced. Police were only 5 minutes away but it took that...over girls softball! There are people in this world who will act regardless of consequence. They just don't care, and I want to make them care one way or the other I guess. People like that only care about beating up on weaker people when they can and cry foul at any occasion.That exact concept: supporting free speech entails holding the door open for even the speech you personally disagree was hard for me to grasp a few years back. A KKK rally was going to be in an area where I had a trip planned. I squawked for days about how those losers would be there, almost enjoying my fury lol...well almost if it didn't involve such hate...but anyway..had someone point that out to me...point black "Hey, you say you support free speech so that means supporting the right of speech by all groups." The hard part is defining the line between free speech and hate speech. When exactly do words that contain fiery rhetoric turn into hateful rhetoric? That has yet to be ironed out obviously and maybe in another 10 to 20 years for the US, hard to measure.This could be the issue that will have the greatest impact on America's future. Trump is being rejected and is without a soapbox from which to peddle his lies.
A wise decision by Facebook in being able to separate hate speech from the right to free speech.WH: Social Media Platforms Should Block More 'Untrustworthy Content'
The White House said President Joe Biden supported social media companies banning more content considered "untrustworthy" on their platforms.www.breitbart.com
supporting free speech is about speech you disagree with,,,
The real problem is during political rallies you'll often have at least a small group of haters...full to their gills in hate...varying age groups, and they know little else. They will show off and one-up the others in rhetoric, try to incite a fire or do some type of damage. Stepping onto the next step of hate speech is to actively encourage others to target the homes and families of their "opposition". That is crossing the line, although the defense will insist it was strictly a matter of expressing free speech and things maybe, got out of hand but that no hate crimes were commited. Venomous hate speech cannot be left unchecked. Really, it's pretty sad to think the US needs to decide in 2021 what should have been cut and dry decades ago...surely the 60's gave cause for defining the two in clear terms. Here we are 60 years later still trying to figure that out.
theres no such thing as hate speech,,
Are you meaning posting my thoughts about that could be considered hate speech by my standards? Or, are you saying my definition of hate speech (words incite others intentionally...not by chance...not by accident...not by some crack pot saying "OH, I thought he meant X even though he said Y" but stating "We need to kill those bastards now!" Yes, I would consider that hateful and with intent...intent matters in all cases..
what we call people like you is pussys that cant handle words,,,