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indeed.hee hee.
HAHAHAHA! Grand Masturbator you mean. Look Okooky.... There will be no more delays. There will not be an "extra year or two" The NFL will be back in Los Angeles next year and the Raiders will not be a part of it.
You're going to need to face facts that the Raiders have zero juice to get ANYTHING done. They have neither the cash or the influence to do ANYTHING but stand by on the sidelines and watch other teams and owners who have actual $$$ move and shake and build.
Raiders are going nowhere. Carson is a sham. A fairy tale of fancy. Even if it weren't a cesspool of toxic sludge, it doesn't even compare to the Inglewood location
It's not getting built and the owners (including Dean Spanos ) know this. You do too.
As usual.. more nonsense. Of course it's about who has money. St Louis needs Kroenke to invest nearly 450 dollars into the project. Guess what? That's not happening. Kroenke is not putting that kind of scratch into a stadium he won't control on land he won't own. And it's not about who needs LA more, it's about who'd be a better fit for LA, who is the kind of deep pocketed owner to make it work in LA and and whose project makes the league more revenue.
The answer to that surely isn't Davis . It's Kroenke and Inglewood. Raiders are nothing but fodder, waiting for whatever crumbs fall their way.
There is a problem NFL Vice President Eric Grubman has said in his 3 points in a new stadium one of them is a stadium proposal must be likeable by a team, and the Rams don't like this proposal, therefore St. Louis doesn't meet Eric Grubman's 3 points in a new stadium criteria and also Eric Grubman has even said he still sees a scenario where the Rams leave even if St. Louis got all their financing together, you need to learn all of this, also St. Louis stadium proposal cannot be built without the Rams and the NFL spending any money on it.
Home market isn't doing any such thing without Stan tossing in nearly $450 million of his and the Rams money to do so. REPEAT after me. "That's not happening" - St Louis defaulted on the EJD lease and Stan isn't obligated nor required to spend a dime. St Louis isn't going to benefit by not following through on it's requirement to keep the EDJ in first tier status at no cost to the Rams, by then having Stan and the Rams pay 1/2 the cost of a new stadium.
And the bylaws and relocation guidelines mean squat. Absolutely nothing. As Paul Tagliabue testified before a senate sub-committee back in 1997, The Rams met ZERO of the NFL's relocation guidelines in 1995, but yet they were allowed to move anyway. Why you ask? Only because of a threatened billion dollar antitrust suit. Guess what? The league still doesn't enjoy an antitrust exemption.
Bottom line - Pack up the moving vans. St Louis' days as an NFL city are done.
You do not realize that the Inglewood proposal is the better proposal than Carson 1. the Inglewood site has the ability to start construction in mid-December 2015 with an opening date of September 2018, Carson is not even ready for construction because they need to remediate and clean up the land which they still haven't done that, 2. the Inglewood site has office space and the site has the ability to host the NFL Network (which the Carson proposal clearly rip offed) just go on YouTube and watch the Inglewood stadium presentation in March, and also the Inglewood proposal has an ability to host more events than Carson as the Carson site judging from the renderings it seems to be just made for football and nothing else, 4. Inglewood has transportation options and by the time the light rail is completed the Inglewood Stadium will already be completed, 5. There is the 6,000 seat venue that would host award shows and other SoCal events and possibly the NFL Draft.
HAHAHAHA! Grand Masturbator you mean. Look Okooky.... There will be no more delays. There will not be an "extra year or two" The NFL will be back in Los Angeles next year and the Raiders will not be a part of it.
You're going to need to face facts that the Raiders have zero juice to get ANYTHING done. They have neither the cash or the influence to do ANYTHING but stand by on the sidelines and watch other teams and owners who have actual $$$ move and shake and build.
Raiders are going nowhere. Carson is a sham. A fairy tale of fancy. Even if it weren't a cesspool of toxic sludge, it doesn't even compare to the Inglewood location
It's not getting built and the owners (including Dean Spanos ) know this. You do too.
As usual.. more nonsense. Of course it's about who has money. St Louis needs Kroenke to invest nearly 450 dollars into the project. Guess what? That's not happening. Kroenke is not putting that kind of scratch into a stadium he won't control on land he won't own. And it's not about who needs LA more, it's about who'd be a better fit for LA, who is the kind of deep pocketed owner to make it work in LA and and whose project makes the league more revenue.
The answer to that surely isn't Davis . It's Kroenke and Inglewood. Raiders are nothing but fodder, waiting for whatever crumbs fall their way.
There is a problem NFL Vice President Eric Grubman has said in his 3 points in a new stadium one of them is a stadium proposal must be likeable by a team, and the Rams don't like this proposal, therefore St. Louis doesn't meet Eric Grubman's 3 points in a new stadium criteria and also Eric Grubman has even said he still sees a scenario where the Rams leave even if St. Louis got all their financing together, you need to learn all of this, also St. Louis stadium proposal cannot be built without the Rams and the NFL spending any money on it.
Home market isn't doing any such thing without Stan tossing in nearly $450 million of his and the Rams money to do so. REPEAT after me. "That's not happening" - St Louis defaulted on the EJD lease and Stan isn't obligated nor required to spend a dime. St Louis isn't going to benefit by not following through on it's requirement to keep the EDJ in first tier status at no cost to the Rams, by then having Stan and the Rams pay 1/2 the cost of a new stadium.
And the bylaws and relocation guidelines mean squat. Absolutely nothing. As Paul Tagliabue testified before a senate sub-committee back in 1997, The Rams met ZERO of the NFL's relocation guidelines in 1995, but yet they were allowed to move anyway. Why you ask? Only because of a threatened billion dollar antitrust suit. Guess what? The league still doesn't enjoy an antitrust exemption.
Bottom line - Pack up the moving vans. St Louis' days as an NFL city are done.
You do not realize that the Inglewood proposal is the better proposal than Carson 1. the Inglewood site has the ability to start construction in mid-December 2015 with an opening date of September 2018, Carson is not even ready for construction because they need to remediate and clean up the land which they still haven't done that, 2. the Inglewood site has office space and the site has the ability to host the NFL Network (which the Carson proposal clearly rip offed) just go on YouTube and watch the Inglewood stadium presentation in March, and also the Inglewood proposal has an ability to host more events than Carson as the Carson site judging from the renderings it seems to be just made for football and nothing else, 4. Inglewood has transportation options and by the time the light rail is completed the Inglewood Stadium will already be completed, 5. There is the 6,000 seat venue that would host award shows and other SoCal events and possibly the NFL Draft.