Exit polls show sharp divide among Democrats

[Gunny]

PHILADELPHIA, Pennsylvania (CNN) -- Election officials in Pennsylvania's largest cities reported solid but not record-breaking turnout for the state's Democratic primary after a bruising seven-week campaign.

Hillary Clinton led Barack Obama in published polls going into the primary, the biggest remaining contest of the Democratic presidential race. Analysts had said Obama would need to rack up a wide margin with strong turnout in Philadelphia and its surrounding counties to pull ahead.

CNN projected a Clinton victory. With about a quarter of precincts reporting Tuesday night, she was leading Barack Obama 54-46 percent.

Exit polls indicated that Philadelphia and its suburbs made up more than 30 percent of the vote, and those boxes were tilted heavily toward Obama. But Clinton supporters turned out heavily in Pittsburgh and the counties of western Pennsylvania, and she was racking up similarly lopsided margins in the state's industrial northeast, those surveys found.

Fred Voight, Philadelphia's deputy city commissioner, said there were long lines at polling stations in the state's largest city, with only occasional problems reported. He attributed the turnout to the fact that for the first time in 30-plus years, the Democratic race is not settled when Pennsylvania votes.

"You can't really judge until it's over, but based upon other factors, it's a very robust election," Voight said.

"The last time Pennsylvania was in that mix was Jimmy Carter [in 1976], so this is an unusual primary for us," he said. "But we've had other primaries that were monstrous."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/22/exit.polls/index.html

What a hoot. Hillary gets all the redneck votes.

 

[jillian]

What a hoot. Hillary gets all the redneck votes.

She definitely got pennsyltucky.... but she also got women. ;oP

 

[Gunny]

She definitely got pennsyltucky.... but she also got women. ;oP

Redneck women.

 

[jillian]

Redneck women.

Heh... nope. Grown up women.

 

[Dogger]

The Republicans aren't exactly united, either.

Jenna Bush not yet on board with McCain

First daughter Jenna Bush isn't as committed to Republican candidate John McCain as her parents are, who are firmly behind the party's expected presidential nominee.

Jenna Bush told CNN's Larry King that she is open to learning about all the candidates — including the Democrats.

King asked Jenna Bush and her mother, Laura Bush, who appeared with her, whether they had a favorite between Democratic candidates Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

"My favorite is the Republican," said Laura Bush.

Her daughter wasn't as sure.

"I don't know," Jenna Bush said. "I mean, who isn't open to learning about the candidates? But, I mean, and I'm sure everybody is like that. But I really — I honestly have been too busy with books to really pay that much attention."

Isn't that cute. She hasn't been paying attention. A real chip off the old block.

 

[jillian]

The Republicans aren't exactly united, either.



Isn't that cute. She hasn't been paying attention. A real chip off the old block.

I saw the film clip of that tonight on Dan Abram's show. Poor Jenna so wanted to say that she supported Obama. lol...

 

[Dogger]

I saw the film clip of that tonight on Dan Abram's show. Poor Jenna so wanted to say that she supported Obama. lol...

That's where I saw it. I backed it up and watched it again (thanks, Tivo), and had to wonder whether she would have been more open without her mother there.

 

[jillian]

That's where I saw it. I backed it up and watched it again (thanks, Tivo), and had to wonder whether she would have been more open without her mother there.

She might have. She kept looking at Laura who kept giving her this frozen smile.

 

[Gunny]

The Republicans aren't exactly united, either.



Isn't that cute. She hasn't been paying attention. A real chip off the old block.

Oh your brilliance is really shining through here. Why didn't you type "deflection" in the subject line? Couldn't have been more obvious.

 

[Gunny]

I saw the film clip of that tonight on Dan Abram's show. Poor Jenna so wanted to say that she supported Obama. lol...

Right. Maybe she meant just what she said? There ARE some of us who ARE willing to listen to what all the candidates have to say.

For instance, having heard the current four, I'm more than willing to hear as many independents as it takes to get to one that has a brain, unlike the the current selection.

 

[jillian]

Right. Maybe she meant just what she said? There ARE some of us who ARE willing to listen to what all the candidates have to say.

For instance, having heard the current four, I'm more than willing to hear as many independents as it takes to get to one that has a brain, unlike the the current selection.

Did you see it? Because I did. She kept looking at her mom and wanted to be honest. She's a college age woman... demographically she's right in Obama's camp.

Who should she support, Bob Barr?!?!?!?! lol...

 

[midcan5]

The Republicans aren't exactly united, either.



Isn't that cute. She hasn't been paying attention. A real chip off the old block.

Or maybe behind closed doors the Bushs don't really like McCain and she is just too honest.

 

[Dogger]

Or maybe behind closed doors the Bushs don't really like McCain and she is just too honest.

An honest Bush? Curiouser and curiouser.

 

[midcan5]

There is a great deal of racism among older voters. The old images die hard. I have heard it from people who I would have thought had grown past it. It is the one thing that may be the hardest thing for Obama to overcome.

'How Clinton Courted Racists in Pennsylvania'

http://www.counterpunch.org/lindorff04252008.html

DAVE LINDORFF is a Philadelphia-based journalist. His latest book is “The Case for Impeachment” (St. Martin’s Press, 2006 and now available in paperback edition). His work is available at www.thiscantbehappening.net

 

[Ravi]

There is a great deal of racism among older voters. The old images die hard. I have heard it from people who I would have thought had grown past it. It is the one thing that may be the hardest thing for Obama to overcome.

'How Clinton Courted Racists in Pennsylvania'

http://www.counterpunch.org/lindorff04252008.html

DAVE LINDORFF is a Philadelphia-based journalist. His latest book is “The Case for Impeachment” (St. Martin’s Press, 2006 and now available in paperback edition). His work is available at www.thiscantbehappening.net

I didn't get very far with his article. He's basing his opinion on comments made on his blog? Who knows who is making those comments...not much different from the stuff jsanders is posting that you object to.

But go right ahead and keep alienating people that support one Dem candidate over another. I'm sure they'll all forgive you when the general election rolls around.

 

[Glori.B]

i agree! the dems better stop alienating each other before it's too late.


midcan5 said: "There is a great deal of racism among older voters. The old images die hard. I have heard it from people who I would have thought had grown past it."


sounds like maybe midcan5 has some old die-hard images of his own, eh?
the racism was brought into this campaign by the obama supporters. now they are even threatening violent riots at the convention.

have you heard of these nuts who want to " recreate '68 " ?

why are americans who are reacting rationally being called racist?

 

[Gunny]

Did you see it? Because I did. She kept looking at her mom and wanted to be honest. She's a college age woman... demographically she's right in Obama's camp.

Who should she support, Bob Barr?!?!?!?! lol...

She should support whoever she thinks is the best candidate. I see no requirement that she fall in line with mommy and daddy's beliefs in the Chelsea Clinton mode.

I just find it amusing in a sick sort of way how liberals will point to Republican politicians' children if they think for themselves instead of parrotting the family line as if it is an indicator of anything.

Point is, what's the big deal here besides trying to stir up some shit over nothing?

 

[Gunny]

There is a great deal of racism among older voters. The old images die hard. I have heard it from people who I would have thought had grown past it. It is the one thing that may be the hardest thing for Obama to overcome.

'How Clinton Courted Racists in Pennsylvania'

http://www.counterpunch.org/lindorff04252008.html

DAVE LINDORFF is a Philadelphia-based journalist. His latest book is “The Case for Impeachment” (St. Martin’s Press, 2006 and now available in paperback edition). His work is available at www.thiscantbehappening.net

Ridiculous assertion, but proof to the validity of the original article. Hillary Clinton courted working class voters and rural voters -- you know -- the people the Democrats claim they represent?

The problem with Obama and his supporters is he and y'all have a disconnect from reality and real people. While Hillary isn't as good at relating to people as Bill is, she's still FAR AND AWAY better than Obama and his bogus, unrealistic promises.

 

[Swamp Fox]

An honest Bush? Curiouser and curiouser.

I prefer my bushes furry and a little wet............

 

[Gunny]

i agree! the dems better stop alienating each other before it's too late.


midcan5 said: "There is a great deal of racism among older voters. The old images die hard. I have heard it from people who I would have thought had grown past it."


sounds like maybe midcan5 has some old die-hard images of his own, eh?
the racism was brought into this campaign by the obama supporters. now they are even threatening violent riots at the convention.

have you heard of these nuts who want to " recreate '68 " ?

why are americans who are reacting rationally being called racist?

Midcan is a dyed-in-the-wool socialist. He'd mess his pants if Lenin was running for office, and try to vote as many times as he could.