Excellent discussion on the ME tinderbox.

[Lesh]

And what concessions will Israel make? A two state solution is the only viable path forward.

Because without it… when Hamas is destroyed… something just like it will pop up

 

[berg80]

Because without it… when Hamas is destroyed… something just like it will pop up

Hamas is just the physical manifestation of Israel's refusal to accept the desire for a two state solution. So you're right, that will never die. It will only become more radicalized the longer the desire is denied.

 

[martybegan]

Hamas is just the physical manifestation of Israel's refusal to accept the desire for a two state solution. So you're right, that will never die. It will only become more radicalized the longer the desire is denied.

There is no Palestinian desire for a 2 State solution, that's only found in muddle headed leftists in the west.

 

[martybegan]

Because without it… when Hamas is destroyed… something just like it will pop up

Not if you pound them hard enough.

Do we see rampant German or Japanese militarism anymore?

 

[Lesh]

There is no Palestinian desire for a 2 State solution, that's only found in muddle headed leftists in the west.

That’s NOT true.

Palestinians support it.

Israel does not

 

[martybegan]

That’s NOT true.

Palestinians support it.

Israel does not

bullshit.

So where does the "from the river to the sea" chant we always see come from?

 

[Lesh]

Not if you pound them hard enough.

Do we see rampant German or Japanese militarism anymore?

Completely different situation. We treated them with respect and invested in rebuilding them

That is not at all how Israel is dealing with the Palestinians

 

[martybegan]

Completely different situation. We treated them with respect and invested in rebuilding them

That is not at all how Israel is dealing with the Palestinians

AFTER they admitted they had lost and we pounded the everloving shit out of them.

By attempting to be humane we have created a situation where people can back militants without worrying about consequences. So we have allowed bad actors to dictate the pace of conflict.

No more.

 

[Lesh]

bullshit.

So where does the "from the river to the sea" chant we always see come from?

From the radicals.

Polls have shown that a two state solution is overwhelmingly acceptable to Palestinians

 

[martybegan]

From the radicals.

Polls have shown that a two state solution is overwhelmingly acceptable to Palestinians

Polls taken by who?

And yet they continue to support Hamas and provide militants to Hamas.

 

[Lesh]

AFTER they admitted they had lost and we pounded the everloving shit out of them.

By attempting to be humane we have created a situation where people can back militants without worrying about consequences. So we have allowed bad actors to dictate the pace of conflict.

No more.

Israel brought about this situation by how they dealt with the Palestinians. In fact they propped up and even FUNDED Hamas

Yea that sounds crazy but it is documented fact

 

[martybegan]

Israel brought about this situation by how they dealt with the Palestinians. In fact they propped up and even FUNDED Hamas te

Yea that sounds crazy but it is documented fact

Weren't they required to fund Gaza's government by the agreements they made?

Who was Gaza's government?

Elected by who?

The Palestinians refuse to accept that they lost and are continue to lose.

When they claim they accept a two State solution they are lying, when they chant "from the river to the sea" you are getting the truth.

And you are either to stupid or to indoctrinated to see it.

 

[berg80]

There is no Palestinian desire for a 2 State solution, that's only found in muddle headed leftists in the west.

This is where you refuse to accept the facts.........again.

 

[Lesh]

Weren't they required to fund Gaza's government by the agreements they made?

Who was Gaza's government?

Elected by who?

The Palestinians refuse to accept that they lost and are continue to lose.

When they claim they accept a two State solution they are lying, when they chant "from the river to the sea" you are getting the truth.

And you are either to stupid or to indoctrinated to see it.

Interesting that YOU “know the truth”

Of course your rant about “they lost” exposes your insanity

I assume you refer to losing several wars…the result of which has been turning both Gaza and the West Bank in the world’s larger open air prison

One in which settlers move into almost at will to snatch up any of the good land that exists there. Ya know… the way we shamefully did to Native Americans

That is NOT a sustainable situation if peace is your goal

 

[Nostra]

And what concessions will Israel make? A two state solution is the only viable path forward.

Why would Israel need to make concessions?

 

[martybegan]

This is where you refuse to accept the facts.........again.

And Hitler said after Munich he wanted no more territory.

 

[martybegan]

Interesting that YOU “know the truth”

Of course your rant about “they lost” exposes your insanity

I assume you refer to losing several wars…the result of which has been turning both Gaza and the West Bank in the world’s larger open air prison

One in which settlers move into almost at will to snatch up any of the good land that exists there. Ya know… the way we shamefully did to Native Americans

That is NOT a sustainable situation if peace is your goal

Neither is using your own supposed citizens as meat shields.

 

[Lesh]

And Hitler said after Munich he wanted no more territory.

So because Hitler lied, no one can be believed

 

[Lesh]

Why would Israel need to make concessions?

For a sustainable peace

 

[martybegan]

So because Hitler lied, no one can be believed

Just giving an example. Plus they seem to think Hitler was a pretty neat guy.