What the Israel peace deal means in relation to the world and politics

[Delldude]

Unsurprisingly, NPR is reporting Israeli troops opened fire at someone today. I didn't catch where or at whom. I think we all need to recognize how fragile all peace agreements in the ME have been. Hopefully this one holds but the odds are against it.

Now Comes the Hard Part for the Gaza Cease-Fire Plan​

Getting Israel’s hostages released from Gaza and stopping the war may have taken two years and the direct efforts of the American president and the leaders of several Arab and Muslim nations.

But that was almost certainly the easy part.

Getting Hamas to give up its weapons, and demilitarizing the Gaza Strip — key preconditions for Israel to pull out of Gaza fully, as both President Trump and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu reiterated on Monday — could prove a lot harder.

Then there are the other issues in Mr. Trump’s 20-point plan, which outlined a comprehensive solution for Gaza. In full, it also called for the establishment of an international force to help maintain security in the territory, an ambitious effort to rebuild Gaza’s economy and infrastructure, and the creation of a temporary Palestinian governing committee, whose work would be overseen by an international board.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/14/world/middleeast/gaza-talks-phase-two.html

The military said the suspects had crossed a boundary for an initial Israeli pullback under a U.S.-brokered ceasefire plan, in a violation of the deal.

 

[Edgetho]

dimocraps are the scum of the Earth, part 7,012,692,139

Low-IQ Narcisist and Epic Failure Joe Biden Wants Credit for Trump's Success In the Middle East​

—Ace​

Joe Biden is a corrupt demented fool who has always fancied himself a foreign policy genius. No matter how stupid his plans were, and how often they failed, he clinged to the old fart fantasy that he was a world-class Machiavel.

On Friday, Politico reported that Biden's staffers had "mixed feelings" about the Trump Team's winning of the hostages' freedom. They claim they were happy they were to be released.

But, more importantly, they were spiteful that Trump had accomplished what they failed to achieve.

And as usual, you can ignore everything before the "but."

As the world hopes for the remaining Israeli hostages to soon return home from Gaza, one group has bittersweet feelings about President DONALD TRUMP's progress toward ending the Israel-Hamas war.
Biden administration officials are thrilled that a ceasefire is taking hold and that the hostages will be freed. But they also have a bit of sour grapes -- arguing that they laid the groundwork for Trump's effort and that he could have executed on it much earlier.

Trump, some noted, took office in January with a ceasefire in place, but the truce collapsed and Trump spent months doing little as Gaza sunk into further despair.

As one Biden administration official put it, Trump "inherited a ceasefire that fell apart due to a lack of U.S. engagement, allowed Israel to implement a strategy of starvation, got dragged into the war with Iran and ultimately started to exert leverage only after the botched strike in Qatar last month." The bottom line? "It's good that he came around," the former official said. "But it's a tragedy that it took so long."

Some former aides to President JOE BIDEN are suggesting Trump's 20-point plan may be built off a blueprint they left behind, but the Trump team has made no such admission. Former Secretary of State ANTONY BLINKEN alluded to this in a recent podcast, saying of the much-ballyhooed Trump 20-point plan: "This is essentially the plan that we developed over many months and more or less left in a drawer for the incoming administration, and I'm very, very glad they picked it up."

...

Some former Biden officials, including senior aides to the president and vice president, have been soul-searching in recent months about whether they could have done more to stop the war. But NatSec Daily didn't get any sense that the Biden administration officials were embarrassed or jealous that it was Trump and not them who finally imposed this settlement.

"'Jealous' isn't the right word," a second former Biden administration official said, adding that there's a sense that "because Trump is depraved most of the time, when he does something he's supposed to do he gets more credit than he deserves."

Politico is really claiming that this shows no signs of embarrassment or jealousy.

Deep State Operative and author of the "51 Intelligence Officials" psyop Anthony Blinken claims that Trump merely extended the ceasefire that he and Biden already achieved.

On X, Biden -- who is undergoing treatment for cancer -- said that he was "deeply grateful and relieved" that the Gaza war is approaching its end.
"The road to this deal was not easy," the Democrat wrote. "My Administration worked relentlessly to bring hostages home, get relief to Palestinian civilians, and end the war."

But Biden also gave Trump credit for getting "a renewed ceasefire deal over the finish line."

LOL. Biden brought the ball 90 yards to the 1-yard line and Trump merely punched it over the goal-line, huh?

"Now, with the backing of the United States and the world, the Middle East is on a path to peace that I hope endures and a future for Israelis and Palestinians alike with equal measures of peace, dignity, and safety," he concluded.
On Monday, Blinken said Trump's 20-point peace plan for the Gaza Strip was based on one developed by the Biden administration.

In a lengthy post on X, Blinken, who served in the Biden administration, outlined how Trump was able to secure the peace agreement. He noted that Arab states and Turkey have said "enough" to Hamas, and said the response also showed that other Iran-backed groups -- Hezbollah and Yemen's Houthi rebels -- were not coming to Hamas' aid.

"It starts with a clear and comprehensive post-conflict plan for Gaza," Blinken wrote. "It's good that President Trump adopted and built on the plan the Biden administration developed after months of discussion with Arab partners, Israel and the Palestinian Authority."


Blinken said the Biden administration briefly secured a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas in January, resulting in the release of 135 hostages before the deal fell apart.

He also questioned how Trump could secure a permanent peace plan.

Biden thinks he deserves credit because of his "plan" for peace. This plan for peace being, we should have a peace plan.

Wow, what a foreign policy genius.

But that's like a football coach saying that his plan for a victory is that he thinks his team should wind up with more points than the other team.

Via Ed Morrissey, the WSJ reports that Trump's plan was a touch more developed than that. Since his inauguration, Trump has begged and bullied and bought off all of Hamas' supporters, diplomatically isolating Hamas, and getting even its backers in Qatar to tell it to take this deal or else we're done with you and you're on your own.

Egypt and Qatar told Hayya the deal was his last chance to end the war, according to the officials. They pressed Hamas to understand that holding the hostages was becoming a strategic liability, giving Israel a source of legitimacy to keep fighting.
The next day, joined by Turkey, they warned him that if Hamas didn't approve the plan it would be stripped of all political and diplomatic cover; Qatar and Turkey would no longer host the group's political leadership, and Egypt would stop pressing for Hamas to have a say in Gaza's postwar governance, the officials said.

It was enough to get Hamas to agree to release all its hostages in Gaza and sign on to the first part of Trump's peace deal, giving up what had been its most important bargaining chip to keep a seat at the table. While modifying its acceptance with heavy caveats that reflected its concerns about the deal, Hamas had given Trump an opportunity to declare victory and set the stage for a hostage release early this week.

Trump's plan: Isolate Hamas and bully its patrons into forcing it to take the deal

Biden's "Plan:" Draw up a list of "Nice to Have" wants



Now that Trump has succeeded where Biden -- plot twist -- failed constantly, Biden thinks he's owed credit for Trump's success.

Joe Biden has praised Donald Trump for his success in negotiating a peace deal which allowed the 20 remaining Hamas survivors to return home.
But he also tried to take some credit for the monumental deal, claiming his administration had laid the groundwork for Trump to negotiate.

'The road to this deal was not easy. My Administration worked relentlessly to bring hostages home, get relief to Palestinian civilians, and end the war,' Biden said in a statement to X on Monday.

...


Supporters gathered in the streets to celebrate their hostages coming home
Trump has been hailed a hero in Israel as Israelis celebrate the release of the hostages


He later addressed a peace summit with global leaders where he called for a new era of harmony in the Middle East.

'We have a once-in-a-lifetime chance to put the old feuds and bitter hatreds behind us,' Trump said, and he urged leaders 'to declare that our future will not be ruled by the fights of generations past.'

The whirlwind trip, which included the summit in Egypt and a speech at the Knesset in Jerusalem earlier in the day, comes at a fragile moment of hope for ending two years of war between Israel and Hamas.

'Everybody said it's not possible to do. And it's going to happen. And it is happening before your very eyes,' Trump said alongside Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sissi.

Nearly three dozen countries, including some from Europe and the Middle East, were represented at the summit. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was invited but declined, with his office saying it was too close to a Jewish holiday.

Trump promised to help rebuild Gaza, and he urged Palestinians to 'turn forever from the path of terror and violence.'

'After tremendous pain and death and hardship,' he said, 'now is the time to concentrate on building their people up instead of trying to tear Israel down.'

Israelis have little doubts about whether it is Biden and Blinken or Trump, Rubio, and Witikof who deserve credit:

Israeli lawmakers chanted Trump's name and gave him standing ovation after standing ovation. Some people in the audience wore red hats that resembled his "Make America Great Again" caps, although these versions said "Trump, The Peace President."

And Trump blasted Biden and Obama for their failures and weakness:

But Trump also took the opportunity to lay blame on former Democratic presidents for their failure to stabilize the region.
'All of the countries in the Middle East that could have what we're doing now, it could have happened a long time ago, but it was strangled and set back almost irretrievably by the administrations of Barack Obama and then Joe Biden,' Trump said.

'There was a hatred towards Israel.'

'Nobody asked Joe Biden to come up and speak, I guarantee you that,' he added.

Even this graceless, charmless hag realized that it is self-defeating (and self-revealing) to attempt to deny credit to Team Trump:

Trump's former presidential competitor Hillary Clinton also praised the deal at the weekend.
'It's a really significant first step and I really commend Trump and his administration,' Clinton said on CBS News.

On the other hand, there's America's First Homosexual President, the graceless Kenyan Muslim Obama.

He refused to even mention Trump in noting the hostage deal. Even CNN's low-IQ shill Abby Philip thought this was petty, even by the low, base standards of the narcissistic homosexual Obama.


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[Toddsterpatriot]

Try to get informed. This will help.

Trump’s Sham Peace Plan​

By Chris Hedges
ScheerPost

October 13, 2025
Once Israeli hostages are released, the genocide will continue. I do not know how soon. Let’s hope the mass slaughter is delayed for at least a few weeks. But a pause in the genocide is the best we can anticipate. Israel is on the cusp of emptying Gaza, which has been all but obliterated under two years of relentless bombing. It is not about to be stopped. This is the culmination of the Zionist dream. The United States, which has given Israel a staggering $22 billion in military aid since Oct, 7, 2023, will not shut down its pipeline, the only tool that might halt the genocide.

Israel, as it always does, will blame Hamas and the Palestinians for failing to abide by the agreement, most probably a refusal — true or not — to disarm, as the proposal demands. Washington, condemning Hamas’s supposed violation, will give Israel the green light to continue its genocide to create Trump’s fantasy of a Gaza Riviera and “special economic zone” with its “voluntary” relocation of Palestinians in exchange for digital tokens.

Of the myriads of peace plans over the decades, the current one is the least serious. Aside from a demand that Hamas release the hostages within 72-hours after the ceasefire begins, it lacks specifics and imposed timetables. It is filled with caveats that allow Israel to abrogate the agreement. And that is the point. It is not designed to be a viable path to peace, which most Israeli leaders understand. Israel’s largest-circulation newspaper, Israel Hayom, established by the late casino magnate Sheldon Adelson to serve as a mouthpiece for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and champion messianic Zionism, instructed its readers not to be concerned about the Trump plan because it is only “rhetoric.”

Israel, in one example from the proposal, will “not return to areas that have been withdrawn from, as long as Hamas fully implements the agreement.”

Who decides if Hamas has “fully implemented” the agreement? Israel. Does anyone believe in Israel’s good faith? Can Israel be trusted as an objective arbitrator of the agreement? If Hamas — demonized as a terrorist group — objects, will anyone listen?

How is it possible that a peace proposal ignores the International Court of Justice’s July 2024 Advisory Opinion, which reiterated that Israel’s occupation is illegal and must end?

How can it fail to mention the Palestinian’s right to self-determination?

Why are Palestinians, who have a right under international law to armed struggle against an occupying power, expected to disarm while Israel, the illegally occupying force, is not?

By what authority can the U.S. establish a “temporary transitional government,” — Trump’s and Tony Blair’s so-called “Board of Peace” — sidelining the Palestinian right to self-determination?

Who gave the U.S. the authority to send to Gaza an “International Stabilization Force,” a polite term for foreign occupation?

How are Palestinians supposed to reconcile themselves to the acceptance of an Israeli “security barrier” on Gaza’s borders, confirmation that the occupation will continue?

How can any proposal ignore the slow-motion genocide and annexation of the West Bank?

Why is Israel, which has destroyed Gaza, not required to pay reparations?

Why is Gaza, which started the war, not required to pay reparations?

 

[Sayaras]

Obstacles persist in guaranteeing the longevity of the agreement and achieving wider peace in the Middle East. King Trump could fail again!

The challenges in ensuring the durability of the Israel peace deal and broader peace in the region stem from several major unresolved issues:

1. Disarmament of Hamas is vague and difficult. The agreement aspires to demilitarize Gaza under independent supervision but provides no clear timeline or benchmarks for disarmament or how to destroy Hamas's extensive military infrastructure, including tunnels that run hundreds of miles underground. Hamas has not publicly committed to disarm, raising doubts about compliance. csis+1

2. Israeli withdrawal phases lack clarity and remain contentious. While the deal calls for an initial withdrawal to an agreed line, the sequencing and timing of further withdrawals remain undefined. Israel also intends to maintain a buffer zone in Gaza, while Hamas expects a complete Israeli withdrawal. These differing expectations threaten to derail the agreement. abcnews.go+1

3. Governance and security in Gaza post-withdrawal are uncertain. The plan envisions a technocratic Palestinian transitional government supervised internationally, but the details and acceptance by Palestinian factions, including Hamas, are unclear. The creation of an international stabilization force also faces high obstacles due to opposition from Hamas and the challenge of deploying foreign forces. carnegieendowment+2

4. Implementation difficulties have already surfaced. There have been delays in prisoner exchanges and the release of hostages, ongoing hostilities during ceasefire negotiations, and disagreements over humanitarian aid flows. Both sides have accused each other of violating the agreement. abcnews.go+2

5. Broader political obstacles remain, such as Israeli opposition to Palestinian statehood pathways and Gulf states' hesitance to fund Gaza reconstruction without guarantees of peace and security. csis+1

These complexities reveal why the peace deal's initial breakthrough does not guarantee long-term peace, as many critical details and political disputes must be resolved for stable implementation. abcnews.go+3

sources:

1. What Comes Next for Israel-Hamas Ceasefire?
2. After a breakthrough, long-term challenges remain for lasting peace in Gaza: ANALYSIS
3. The Challenges of Trump's Gaza Peace Plan
4. January 2025 Gaza war ceasefire - Wikipedia
5. Analysis: Trump achieved a breakthrough Gaza ceasefire, but a tough road lies ahead
6. Peace in Gaza? Hopefully, But Not Assuredly
7. Trump announces Israel-Hamas ceasefire deal: What we know and what’s next
8. Major challenges remain for Gaza and Israel if ceasefire deal rolls out
9. The “Yes, But” Problem With the Gaza Peace Plan

Wikipedia on Israel Arab conflict lost credibility

Exclusive | Dozens of Wikipedia editors colluded on years-long anti-Israel campaign, bombshell ADL report claims

Dozens of editors worked together to flood Wikipedia with “antisemitic narratives, anti-Israel bias, and misleading information,” the ADL’s Center for Tech and Society said.

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[USAF 2023]

Your leader Bibi has no intention of abiding by the peace agreement. The genocide will start again and you’ll support it.

You’re half right. If Hamas doesn’t keep up their end of the bargain He will not hold back Hamas has no intention of abiding by it. That also includes tunnels and you’ll support it

 

[the watcher]

Why is Gaza, which started the war, not required to pay reparations?

What would the payment consist of? All they have is a few survivors and 100 million tons of rubble, and some dead bodies. How much of that do you think is enough? Oh yes, the waterfront property, how does that figure in? Would you like the US to offer reparations to Israel, just another bag of money. The coming rebuilding and security costs to the US can be labelled something else. Israeli plan to occupy all of Gaza could open the door for annexation of the West Bank

 

[Delldude]

The coming rebuilding and security costs to the US can be labelled something else.

I'm pretty sure it's going to be an Arab venture from what's been mentioned.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What would the payment consist of? All they have is a few survivors and 100 million tons of rubble, and some dead bodies. How much of that do you think is enough? Oh yes, the waterfront property, how does that figure in? Would you like the US to offer reparations to Israel, just another bag of money. The coming rebuilding and security costs to the US can be labelled something else. Israeli plan to occupy all of Gaza could open the door for annexation of the West Bank

What would the payment consist of?

Their leaders, hiding in Qatar, have billions of dollars in the bank.

 

[Sayaras]

Among Hondo 50 usernames

• Dean F (with Hitler worshipping Aug 18, 2024), is also:
• yeh (Aug 29. 2024. With a photo of his Adolf Hitler as an avatar. [banned]);
• todd down under (Sep 15, 2024);
• Hondo 50 (Sep 18, 2024);
• lech (Oct 13, 2024);
• log cabin republican (Aug 4, 2024);
• annalise (Dec 8. 2024);
• Davebb (Jan 11, 2025) and
• No Way (Jan 26, 2025).
• S.S. another hint in liking the Nazis, (Feb 6, 2025).
• stockhome (Feb 11, 2025)
• cowboy fan (Sep 12, 2025)
• lith leo (Sep 16, 2025)
• gold something (Sep 16, 2025) [posing as a "jew"]

Hondo 50 has a new one "moro maquina" (10.25.25) moro maquina

 

[Concerned American]

Hondo 50 has a new one "moro maquina" (10.25.25) moro maquina

How do you discover this info? Isn't a violation of board rules to have more than one account?

 

[Sayaras]

How do you discover this info? Isn't a violation of board rules to have more than one account?

It is. And he has been setting up accounts every week or so. One day he poses as "mexican," the other day (under "gold something") he is suddenly "jewish," then he is "white Christian," but he is really a pro islamists, and sneaky at that.

 

[Delldude]

How do you discover this info? Isn't a violation of board rules to have more than one account?

How about the personal data thingy?

 

[Pastelli]

Taqiyya for Hitler. Allah Akbar

On Oct 22, 2025

Pro Islamofascist fakestine 'Hondo 50' denies the Holocaust, then he supports it with 2 other SP accounts of his:

Kyzina (8.20.25)
todd down under (9.15.24)
lith leo (9.16.25)

Among (pro Islamofascism) Hondo 50 usernames

• Dean F (with Hitler worshipping Aug 18, 2024), is also:
• yeh (Aug 29. 2024. Previously with a photo of his Adolf Hitler as an avatar. Here under "yeh" denies the Holocaust).
• todd down under (Sep 15, 2024);
• Hondo 50 (Sep 18, 2024);
• lech (Oct 13, 2024);
• log cabin republican (Aug 4, 2024);
• roderick (Aug 10, 2024);
• annalise (Dec 8. 2024);
• Davebb (Jan 11, 2025) and
• No Way (Jan 26, 2025).
• S.S. another hint in liking the Nazis, (Feb 6, 2025).
• stockhome (Feb 11, 2025)
• john finally retired (Apr 10, 2025);
• apolitical (Apr 13, 2025);
• stevez (Apr 14, 2025).
• Topeka (Apr 22, 2025) created only to defend his exposed other accounts)
• Maj (Aug 1, 2025) [posing as a "jew"]
• Kyzina (Aug 20, 2025)
• john u (Sep 7, 2025);
• cowboy fan (Sep 12, 2025)
• he just circle K (Sep 12, 2025)
• lith leo (Sep 16, 2025)
• gold something (Sep 16, 2025) [posing as a "jew"]
• mex tex (Sep 18, 2025) [borrowing a "Mexican" pretend].
• Soul musician (Sep 20, 2025)
• Moro mquina (Oct 25, 2025)
  
  

 

[Sayaras]

Taqiyya for Hitler. Allah Akbar

On Oct 22, 2025

Pro Islamofascist fakestine 'Hondo 50' denies the Holocaust, then he supports it with 2 other SP accounts of his:

Kyzina (8.20.25)
todd down under (9.15.24)
lith leo (9.16.25)

Among (pro Islamofascism) Hondo 50 usernames

• Dean F (with Hitler worshipping Aug 18, 2024), is also:
• yeh (Aug 29. 2024. Previously with a photo of his Adolf Hitler as an avatar. Here under "yeh" denies the Holocaust).
• todd down under (Sep 15, 2024);
• Hondo 50 (Sep 18, 2024);
• lech (Oct 13, 2024);
• log cabin republican (Aug 4, 2024);
• roderick (Aug 10, 2024);
• annalise (Dec 8. 2024);
• Davebb (Jan 11, 2025) and
• No Way (Jan 26, 2025).
• S.S. another hint in liking the Nazis, (Feb 6, 2025).
• stockhome (Feb 11, 2025)
• john finally retired (Apr 10, 2025);
• apolitical (Apr 13, 2025);
• stevez (Apr 14, 2025).
• Topeka (Apr 22, 2025) created only to defend his exposed other accounts)
• Maj (Aug 1, 2025) [posing as a "jew"]
• Kyzina (Aug 20, 2025)
• john u (Sep 7, 2025);
• cowboy fan (Sep 12, 2025)
• he just circle K (Sep 12, 2025)
• lith leo (Sep 16, 2025)
• gold something (Sep 16, 2025) [posing as a "jew"]
• mex tex (Sep 18, 2025) [borrowing a "Mexican" pretend].
• Soul musician (Sep 20, 2025)
• Moro mquina (Oct 25, 2025)
  

 

[Paddlefoot]