colfax_m
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Since thereās not much more to this supposed scandal, I guess that means it wasnāt that big of a deal.No, he was just a minute piece.Uh, huh...Alright. Letās explore it.No, that's accuracy.Calling it a coup is about as stupid as you could possibly imagine.Do you care about the Bill of Rights and the attempt of an administration to stage a coup?Ah, the backpedaling. Why were you all so upset that "Trump tower" was spied on as opposed to Trump? Trump tower is a wretched hive of scum an villainy, of course someone in Trump tower is going to have a wire tap.It's been proven Trump tower was spied onAlright man, whatever floats your boat.i'm pretty aware of what i was doing. you see, this is why it's such bullshit to talk to you. i can tell you what i'm doing and why and you go "no you weren't"Trolling and satire are not the same thing.i don't think you understand counter-trolling.I don't think you understand satire.you have said both that admitting guilt meant you're guilty and then it also meant you may not be.What about being "at ease" makes it okay to lie to the FBI? Nothing. Zero.or flynn counted on protocol where you simply don't do what the FBI did here and therefor was at ease with the questions.New to the scene? Good grief. He's a general who reached the top echelons of military command and was appointed to highly sensitive positions. Not an idiot.Hey, sounds pretty stupid to me. But people said that Flynn didnāt know it was illegal to lie to the FBI so thatās the new standard.Maybe he didnāt intend to alter it? Maybe he didnāt know that was illegal?Great. So the guilty plea of Clinesmith is in no way validation or evidence of any illegal action.He was "caught" doing nothing illegal, moron. And, yes, a guilty is not proof of anything, especially when a establishment douchebag like Mueller is the prosecutor. Thousands of people who plead guilty were later found to be innocent and set free.He actually was caught red handed.Remember. Pleading guilty doesnāt actually mean you did anything illegal.
if you are referring to Flynn, the fbi agents stated they didnāt think he had lied. He was threatened into pleading guilty, so they wouldnāt also break financially his son, as they had done to him. Big difference. Total faux comparison.
Flynn was caught red handed too.
Everyone who pleads guilty does so because of the threat of a worse sentence.
So therefore thereās no proof he did anything wrong since a guilty plea doesnāt mean a crime has been committed. Thatās the stupid world we live in thanks to Billy Barr.
Congrats. Our country just got dumber because of you.
You don't think that altering a document in order to get the FISA court to approve of a surveillance warrant isn't illegal?
Of course not. He's a lawyer. How could he possibly know it wasn't legal.
He didn't know it was an official investigation. He was new to the scene. When he asked Comey if he should get his lawyers first, Comey told him it wasn't necessary. It was a few off the record questions.
Off the record? Two FBI agents sitting in front of him taking notes suggests it's "off the record"?
Y'all have a really low opinion of Flynn's intelligence.
spin doctors in surgery today.
This is all spin on your part.
way to take a stand there, dickens.
I was satirizing Billy Barr's nutty statements that feed the frenzy from the village rabble. That guy is a political hack.
you wanna troll your stupid shit, i can do the same. you wanna drop bullshit and talk honestly, i can do that. i just follow the lead of the conversation.
You werenāt counter trolling. Youāre just being oblivious. Your posts here are little more than emotional outbursts from someone existing in a toxic media bath.
Being honest, dude needs to go to jail. He plead guilty because heās guilty.
So did Flynn.
This is probably the biggest fish youāre going to get in your counter narrative of FBI corruption. Some low level dude that no one ever heard of. And itās not because someone is āprotectingā Comey or anyone else. Itās because there isnāt evidence to support charges against anyone else.
how in the fuck do you know? you don't so you're making shit up and lying.
as for my "emotional outbursts" - part of the troll man. don't really give a shit if you like it or not.
You know I'm right. Deep down, you know that this is about as good as it gets for your little conspiracy theory about the FBI out to get Trump.Then by all means, clarify.i'm sorry - can you provide the facts on this? i believe you just chided me about doing these types of things.I just told you, dumbass. They went to the NSA database.They spied on him, moron. These days you don't need a physical wiretap since the NSA records every phone call you make. All you have to do is get permission to access them. That's what FISA warrants are for. The claim that "there was no wiretap" is a leftwing diversion.Think about this for a moment...
This attorney falsified public records used to obtain an illegal wire tap on a presidential candidate and then on a SITTING US PRESIDENT. This means everything they did was ILLEGAL from the get go. This makes the case solid as bedrock on everyone else.
This makes the intentional (premeditated) Fraud on the FISA court valid charges to follow up with. Given who knew and when they were told, this makes everyone in the chain right up to and including Obama and Biden culpable in the Coup.
This one case makes all the others possible. The next bomb could be 35+ indictments... And it could happen very early next week. What IF Biden is named in an indictment? What will democrats do? Biden is still just a citizen and does not gain exemption from prosecution.
I need lots of popcorn....
There was no wire tap, legal or illegal on a presidential candidate or a sitting U.S. president. Where do you guys come up with this whacked out stuff?
Specifically where was Trump spied on and when both prior and post election?
And they specifically pulled Trump's calls phone calls and pre election?
wow. that didn't take long.
Your haste to attack (again and again...) kind of overlooks something. I asked a question (note the punctuation?). You don't provide facts when you are asking a question. The claim is that Trump was wire tapped. I didn't make the claim. I'm only trying to keep track of shifting goal posts.
And thank you. Thank you for your never ending patience and NEVER being quick to attack. You're the shining melted butter in my unworthy mashed potatoes.
You must be thinking of margarine. Seriously. Give it a rest. Try discussing the issues brought up instead of constantly focusing on the person. Damn, if I can try it you can as well. Why on EARTH would you ask for "facts" to support a question? The question is asked because there have been no facts to support the claims and there still aren't.
Why not look at that instead of go on the attack? Don't worry I'll keep on trying to ignore it but I sure would like to know what specific actions prove that Trump was directly spied on.
Can you prove Trump has never been in Trump Tower? If you can prove that you made your case.
A coup is an attempt to overthrow a government.
How does investigating Trumpās campaign have anything to do with overthrowing a government?
Why do you suppose the phony FISA warrants were issued? Why do you suppose the Mueller investigation was started? Why do you suppose that Trump was the first President to ever be impeached without an impeachable offense or a crime committed?
It's all to get rid of Trump.
FISA warrants were issued to investigate whether Trump was cooperating with Russians after he lied about extensive contacts with them. The Mueller investigation was started because Trump fired the person in charge of investigating his campaign activities. Trump was impeached because he was using US government policy to direct a smear against a chief political adversary.Alright. Letās explore it.No, that's accuracy.Calling it a coup is about as stupid as you could possibly imagine.Do you care about the Bill of Rights and the attempt of an administration to stage a coup?Ah, the backpedaling. Why were you all so upset that "Trump tower" was spied on as opposed to Trump? Trump tower is a wretched hive of scum an villainy, of course someone in Trump tower is going to have a wire tap.It's been proven Trump tower was spied onAlright man, whatever floats your boat.i'm pretty aware of what i was doing. you see, this is why it's such bullshit to talk to you. i can tell you what i'm doing and why and you go "no you weren't"Trolling and satire are not the same thing.i don't think you understand counter-trolling.I don't think you understand satire.you have said both that admitting guilt meant you're guilty and then it also meant you may not be.What about being "at ease" makes it okay to lie to the FBI? Nothing. Zero.or flynn counted on protocol where you simply don't do what the FBI did here and therefor was at ease with the questions.New to the scene? Good grief. He's a general who reached the top echelons of military command and was appointed to highly sensitive positions. Not an idiot.Hey, sounds pretty stupid to me. But people said that Flynn didnāt know it was illegal to lie to the FBI so thatās the new standard.Maybe he didnāt intend to alter it? Maybe he didnāt know that was illegal?Great. So the guilty plea of Clinesmith is in no way validation or evidence of any illegal action.He was "caught" doing nothing illegal, moron. And, yes, a guilty is not proof of anything, especially when a establishment douchebag like Mueller is the prosecutor. Thousands of people who plead guilty were later found to be innocent and set free.He actually was caught red handed.Remember. Pleading guilty doesnāt actually mean you did anything illegal.
if you are referring to Flynn, the fbi agents stated they didnāt think he had lied. He was threatened into pleading guilty, so they wouldnāt also break financially his son, as they had done to him. Big difference. Total faux comparison.
Flynn was caught red handed too.
Everyone who pleads guilty does so because of the threat of a worse sentence.
So therefore thereās no proof he did anything wrong since a guilty plea doesnāt mean a crime has been committed. Thatās the stupid world we live in thanks to Billy Barr.
Congrats. Our country just got dumber because of you.
You don't think that altering a document in order to get the FISA court to approve of a surveillance warrant isn't illegal?
Of course not. He's a lawyer. How could he possibly know it wasn't legal.
He didn't know it was an official investigation. He was new to the scene. When he asked Comey if he should get his lawyers first, Comey told him it wasn't necessary. It was a few off the record questions.
Off the record? Two FBI agents sitting in front of him taking notes suggests it's "off the record"?
Y'all have a really low opinion of Flynn's intelligence.
spin doctors in surgery today.
This is all spin on your part.
way to take a stand there, dickens.
I was satirizing Billy Barr's nutty statements that feed the frenzy from the village rabble. That guy is a political hack.
you wanna troll your stupid shit, i can do the same. you wanna drop bullshit and talk honestly, i can do that. i just follow the lead of the conversation.
You werenāt counter trolling. Youāre just being oblivious. Your posts here are little more than emotional outbursts from someone existing in a toxic media bath.
Being honest, dude needs to go to jail. He plead guilty because heās guilty.
So did Flynn.
This is probably the biggest fish youāre going to get in your counter narrative of FBI corruption. Some low level dude that no one ever heard of. And itās not because someone is āprotectingā Comey or anyone else. Itās because there isnāt evidence to support charges against anyone else.
how in the fuck do you know? you don't so you're making shit up and lying.
as for my "emotional outbursts" - part of the troll man. don't really give a shit if you like it or not.
You know I'm right. Deep down, you know that this is about as good as it gets for your little conspiracy theory about the FBI out to get Trump.Then by all means, clarify.i'm sorry - can you provide the facts on this? i believe you just chided me about doing these types of things.I just told you, dumbass. They went to the NSA database.They spied on him, moron. These days you don't need a physical wiretap since the NSA records every phone call you make. All you have to do is get permission to access them. That's what FISA warrants are for. The claim that "there was no wiretap" is a leftwing diversion.Think about this for a moment...
This attorney falsified public records used to obtain an illegal wire tap on a presidential candidate and then on a SITTING US PRESIDENT. This means everything they did was ILLEGAL from the get go. This makes the case solid as bedrock on everyone else.
This makes the intentional (premeditated) Fraud on the FISA court valid charges to follow up with. Given who knew and when they were told, this makes everyone in the chain right up to and including Obama and Biden culpable in the Coup.
This one case makes all the others possible. The next bomb could be 35+ indictments... And it could happen very early next week. What IF Biden is named in an indictment? What will democrats do? Biden is still just a citizen and does not gain exemption from prosecution.
I need lots of popcorn....
There was no wire tap, legal or illegal on a presidential candidate or a sitting U.S. president. Where do you guys come up with this whacked out stuff?
Specifically where was Trump spied on and when both prior and post election?
And they specifically pulled Trump's calls phone calls and pre election?
wow. that didn't take long.
Your haste to attack (again and again...) kind of overlooks something. I asked a question (note the punctuation?). You don't provide facts when you are asking a question. The claim is that Trump was wire tapped. I didn't make the claim. I'm only trying to keep track of shifting goal posts.
And thank you. Thank you for your never ending patience and NEVER being quick to attack. You're the shining melted butter in my unworthy mashed potatoes.
You must be thinking of margarine. Seriously. Give it a rest. Try discussing the issues brought up instead of constantly focusing on the person. Damn, if I can try it you can as well. Why on EARTH would you ask for "facts" to support a question? The question is asked because there have been no facts to support the claims and there still aren't.
Why not look at that instead of go on the attack? Don't worry I'll keep on trying to ignore it but I sure would like to know what specific actions prove that Trump was directly spied on.
Can you prove Trump has never been in Trump Tower? If you can prove that you made your case.
A coup is an attempt to overthrow a government.
How does investigating Trumpās campaign have anything to do with overthrowing a government?
Why do you suppose the phony FISA warrants were issued? Why do you suppose the Mueller investigation was started? Why do you suppose that Trump was the first President to ever be impeached without an impeachable offense or a crime committed?
It's all to get rid of Trump.
None of these things happen if Trump hadnāt acted first.
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You got him. Clinesmith was the mastermind of the whole thing.