The extent of John Durham's face plant seems to know no end.

[DonGlock26]

Explain the plan in detail and I’ll tell you how you’re wrong.

Now you are pretending to not know what the Hillary Campaign did? They paid for the fake Russian dossier to smear Trump.

 

[berg80]

That doesn’t make any difference, of course – conservatives will continue to lie.

They are all in on the Russia hoax canard. Despite the voluminous evidence in the Mueller report showing trump to be a despicable traitor and revealing evidence trump obstructed Mueller's investigation.

 

[Marener]

Now you are pretending to not know what the Hillary Campaign did? They paid for the fake Russian dossier to smear Trump.

You mean the dossier that was never released to the public and they didn’t use?

Steele collected information as he was told to. That’s it.

 

[berg80]

You mean the dossier that was never released to the public and they didn’t use?

Steele collected information as he was told to. That’s it.

By the time the existence of the dossier was reported on by David Corn the election only days away. The Clinton campaign never used it.

 

[Seymour Flops]

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It says that a foreign policy adviser to the Clinton campaign named Smith played a role in the Clinton campaign's efforts to tie Trump to Russia.

How does that help your argument?

The Clinton campaign tried to tie Trump to Russia is the takeaway from that.

We know they paid for the false Steele Dossier, and we know that the DOJ/FBI and the heads of intelligence agencies gave a tax-funded assist to the Clinton Campaign by treating the fake dossier as if it were real.

 

[The Duke]

By the time the existence of the dossier was reported on by David Corn the election only days away. The Clinton campaign never used it.

The Obama administration used it after Trump won to spy on the incoming administration, spergie.

 

[Marener]

We know they paid for the false Steele Dossier, and we know that the DOJ/FBI and the heads of intelligence agencies gave a tax-funded assist to the Clinton Campaign by treating the fake dossier as if it were real

The Steele dossier and the FBI investigation were never made public before the election.

How could this be part of a plan to influence the election?

 

[Seymour Flops]

The Steele dossier and the FBI investigation were never made public before the election.

How could this be part of a plan to influence the election?

Really?

If it was not a part of a plan to influence the election, then it was a crime for Hillary to spend campaign funds on it.

 

[Marener]

Really?

If it was not a part of a plan to influence the election, then it was a crime for Hillary to spend campaign funds on it.

They spent money for opposition research. All campaigns do. That doesn’t mean the info is usable.

What was the plan to influence the election exactly?

 

[Seymour Flops]

They spent money for opposition research. All campaigns do. That doesn’t mean the info is usable.

What was the plan to influence the election exactly?

You'd have to ask Hillary that.

You admit that it was part of the campaign effort, which is all I wanted to correct you on at this time.

 

[Marener]

You'd have to ask Hillary that.

You admit that it was part of the campaign effort, which is all I wanted to correct you on at this time.

Gibberish.

Come back with a credible suggestion.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Gibberish.

Come back with a credible suggestion.

Since you admit that the steele dossier was a part of the hillary clinton campaign, how do you feel about the FBI using it to apply for FISA warrants to spy on the Trump campaign?

Pretty sickening for anybody who believes in a democratic republic, wouldn't you say?

 

[Marener]

Since you admit that the steele dossier was a part of the hillary clinton campaign, how do you feel about the FBI using it to apply for FISA warrants to spy on the Trump campaign?

Pretty sickening for anybody who believes in a democratic republic, wouldn't you say?

Why is it sickening?

 

[Seymour Flops]

Why is it sickening?

I can explain it to you. But if it doesn't already make you sick to think of the FBI using oppo research from one campaign as an entre for legalized spying on the other campaign, I can understand it for you.

 

[Marener]

I can explain it to you. But if it doesn't already make you sick to think of the FBI using oppo research from one campaign as an entre for legalized spying on the other campaign, I can understand it for you.

Opposition research doesn't mean it's false. Does it?

 

[whitehall]

Apparently Durham is in a CYA mode after botching the original probe.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Opposition research doesn't mean it's false. Does it?

It means that it was carefully tailored to be what the campaign that hired them wanted it to be.

So while it does not prove that it is fake, it certainly proves that it is not a credible source.

But don't take my word for it. Here's what the FISA Courts said:

“The FBI’s handling of the Carter Page applications, as portrayed in the [Office of the inspector general] report, was antithetical to the heightened duty of candor described above. The frequency with which representations made by FBI personnel turned out to be unsupported or contradicted by information in their possession, and with which they withheld information detrimental to their case, calls into question whether information contained in other FBI applications is reliable,” federal Judge Rosemary Collyer wrote in an order from the court published Tuesday.

 

[Marener]

It means that it was carefully tailored to be what the campaign that hired them wanted it to be.

So while it does not prove that it is fake, it certainly proves that it is not a credible source.

But don't take my word for it. Here's what the FISA Courts said:

“The FBI’s handling of the Carter Page applications, as portrayed in the [Office of the inspector general] report, was antithetical to the heightened duty of candor described above. The frequency with which representations made by FBI personnel turned out to be unsupported or contradicted by information in their possession, and with which they withheld information detrimental to their case, calls into question whether information contained in other FBI applications is reliable,” federal Judge Rosemary Collyer wrote in an order from the court published Tuesday.

I disagree. Opposition research has the ability to identify things worth investigating. The credibility depends on multiple factors. It should not be automatically dismissed.

 

[Seymour Flops]

I disagree. Opposition research has the ability to identify things worth investigating. The credibility depends on multiple factors. It should not be automatically dismissed.

In this case we know it had no credibility and so did the FBI when they submitted it to the FISA courts.

 

[Marener]

In this case we know it had no credibility and so did the FBI when they submitted it to the FISA courts.

It requires investigation to identify whether the information is true. The FBI decided it was worth investigating because of who it came from and the circumstances of the election.

You’re all hindsight and political bias.