Evolution Is Not A Theory..........................

[bigrebnc1775]

Science did nothing to you, an inept medical person did.

The IV and the content was created by science

And the technology that brought you back from the dead was provided by science as well.

Nope I came back without the help of science. I was told they were rolling the equipment in and I came back.

 

[FurthurBB]

True, when they can pin point to point of human life let me know.
They will come to a quick conclusion of a creator.

You should stop putting god and scientists into this precarious position. We do not want to disprove any gods, but when people put them in the gaps in our knowledge, we are forced to prove there are no gods there when those gaps are filled. Just believe whatever way you want, and leave science out of it.

You don't want to disprove God but you sure in hell will argue there isn't one.

When? Point me to the post I argued about the existence of a god.

 

[Woyzeck]

And the creator was created by....?

If he knew any physics, he could twist some words around and say dark energy/matter did it. But I don't think he'd like that answer very much once he realized the concepts behind it.

How did that dark energy matter come to be?

That's the sound of my point going over your head.

Do you know what dark energy/matter is?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

You should stop putting god and scientists into this precarious position. We do not want to disprove any gods, but when people put them in the gaps in our knowledge, we are forced to prove there are no gods there when those gaps are filled. Just believe whatever way you want, and leave science out of it.

You don't want to disprove God but you sure in hell will argue there isn't one.

When? Point me to the post I argued about the existence of a god.

OK in your opinion does God exist? The you was figuratively speaking not to specifically say you

 

[bigrebnc1775]

If he knew any physics, he could twist some words around and say dark energy/matter did it. But I don't think he'd like that answer very much once he realized the concepts behind it.

How did that dark energy matter come to be?

That's the sound of my point going over your head.

Do you know what dark energy/matter is?

You are the one that brought it up you must think it exist.

 

[Woyzeck]

How did that dark energy matter come to be?

That's the sound of my point going over your head.

Do you know what dark energy/matter is?

You are the one that brought it up you must think it exist.

Way to answer my question.

 

[FurthurBB]

You don't want to disprove God but you sure in hell will argue there isn't one.

When? Point me to the post I argued about the existence of a god.

OK in your opinion does God exist? The you was figuratively speaking not to specifically say you

Again, in case you missed it the first time, point me to the post where I argued about the existence of a god. If you were mistaken say so, if you just assumed say that. Because truthfully, I do not care what anyone believes and it does not enter into my thought process. It is when people defame my life's work that I am willing to argue.

 

[westwall]

If he knew any physics, he could twist some words around and say dark energy/matter did it. But I don't think he'd like that answer very much once he realized the concepts behind it.

How did that dark energy matter come to be?

That's the sound of my point going over your head.

Do you know what dark energy/matter is?

No one "knows" what Dark Matter is or even if it exists. It is currently in the realm of cosmological theory. There is mathematical evidence that it exists but so far no empirical data to support its existence.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

When? Point me to the post I argued about the existence of a god.

OK in your opinion does God exist? The you was figuratively speaking not to specifically say you

Again, in case you missed it the first time, point me to the post where I argued about the existence of a god. If you were mistaken say so, if you just assumed say that. Because truthfully, I do not care what anyone believes and it does not enter into my thought process. It is when people defame my life's work that I am willing to argue.

In case you missed it I clarified what I said. It was figuratively speaking not to specifically say you. So Can you answer my question?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

That's the sound of my point going over your head.

Do you know what dark energy/matter is?

You are the one that brought it up you must think it exist.

Way to answer my question.

You brought it up if it doesn't exist why mention it?

 

[FurthurBB]

OK in your opinion does God exist? The you was figuratively speaking not to specifically say you

Again, in case you missed it the first time, point me to the post where I argued about the existence of a god. If you were mistaken say so, if you just assumed say that. Because truthfully, I do not care what anyone believes and it does not enter into my thought process. It is when people defame my life's work that I am willing to argue.

In case you missed it I clarified what I said. It was figuratively speaking not to specifically say you. So Can you answer my question?

No, dancing around the issue is not helpful. You directed the comment at me with "you", I could believe you were talking about scientists in general, but since most scientists believe in god, that would also be false. I will not answer your question as it is not germane to this topic. I will say that I find religion to be fascinating and have studied many different ones. I have tremendous respect for many religious people and their beliefs. And also, do not feel like what anyone believes has any baring on my life unless they try to push it on everyone or defame my life's work because they lack faith to understand it doesn't have anything to do with their beliefs.

 

[Photonic]

How did that dark energy matter come to be?

That's the sound of my point going over your head.

Do you know what dark energy/matter is?

No one "knows" what Dark Matter is or even if it exists. It is currently in the realm of cosmological theory. There is mathematical evidence that it exists but so far no empirical data to support its existence.

That isn't entirely true. SOMETHING exists, we haven't figured out what it is. Hence the "dark" phrasing.

The first person to provide evidence and infer the presence of dark matter was Swiss astrophysicist Fritz Zwicky, of the California Institute of Technology in 1933.[9] He applied the virial theorem to the Coma cluster of galaxies and obtained evidence of unseen mass. Zwicky estimated the cluster's total mass based on the motions of galaxies near its edge and compared that estimate to one based on the number of galaxies and total brightness of the cluster. He found that there was about 400 times more estimated mass than was visually observable. The gravity of the visible galaxies in the cluster would be far too small for such fast orbits, so something extra was required. This is known as the "missing mass problem". Based on these conclusions, Zwicky inferred that there must be some non-visible form of matter which would provide enough of the mass and gravity to hold the cluster together.
Much of the evidence for dark matter comes from the study of the motions of galaxies.[10] Many of these appear to be fairly uniform, so by the virial theorem the total kinetic energy should be half the total gravitational binding energy of the galaxies. Experimentally, however, the total kinetic energy is found to be much greater: in particular, assuming the gravitational mass is due to only the visible matter of the galaxy, stars far from the center of galaxies have much higher velocities than predicted by the virial theorem. Galactic rotation curves, which illustrate the velocity of rotation versus the distance from the galactic center, cannot be explained by only the visible matter. Assuming that the visible material makes up only a small part of the cluster is the most straightforward way of accounting for this. Galaxies show signs of being composed largely of a roughly spherically symmetric, centrally concentrated halo of dark matter with the visible matter concentrated in a disc at the center. Low surface brightness dwarf galaxies are important sources of information for studying dark matter, as they have an uncommonly low ratio of visible matter to dark matter, and have few bright stars at the center which would otherwise impair observations of the rotation curve of outlying stars.
Gravitational lensing observations of galaxy clusters allow direct estimates of the gravitational mass based on its effect on light from background galaxies, since large collections of matter (dark or otherwise) will gravitationally deflect light. In clusters such as Abell 1689, lensing observations confirm the presence of considerably more mass than is indicated by the clusters' light alone. In the Bullet Cluster, lensing observations show that much of the lensing mass is separated from the X-ray-emitting baryonic mass.

It's one of the well known weaker theories, for which there is currently no direct evidence, only observational.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Again, in case you missed it the first time, point me to the post where I argued about the existence of a god. If you were mistaken say so, if you just assumed say that. Because truthfully, I do not care what anyone believes and it does not enter into my thought process. It is when people defame my life's work that I am willing to argue.

In case you missed it I clarified what I said. It was figuratively speaking not to specifically say you. So Can you answer my question?

No, dancing around the issue is not helpful. You directed the comment at me with "you", I could believe you were talking about scientists in general, but since most scientists believe in god, that would also be false. I will not answer your question as it is not germane to this topic. I will say that I find religion to be fascinating and have studied many different ones. I have tremendous respect for many religious people and their beliefs. And also, do not feel like what anyone believes has any baring on my life unless they try to push it on everyone or defame my life's work because they lack faith to understand it doesn't have anything to do with their beliefs.

and I clarified what I said and meant, when you brought it to my attention, if I felt you said it I would insist you said it, and started looking for your post.

Now stop dragging your feet Do you believe in God?

But I will note that your lettering when speaking of God you use little letters a good sign of an atheist reply.

So if it is not your intent to argue that there is no God come forward and clarify your answer and intent?

 

[westwall]

That's the sound of my point going over your head.

Do you know what dark energy/matter is?

No one "knows" what Dark Matter is or even if it exists. It is currently in the realm of cosmological theory. There is mathematical evidence that it exists but so far no empirical data to support its existence.

That isn't entirely true. SOMETHING exists, we haven't figured out what it is. Hence the "dark" phrasing.

The first person to provide evidence and infer the presence of dark matter was Swiss astrophysicist Fritz Zwicky, of the California Institute of Technology in 1933.[9] He applied the virial theorem to the Coma cluster of galaxies and obtained evidence of unseen mass. Zwicky estimated the cluster's total mass based on the motions of galaxies near its edge and compared that estimate to one based on the number of galaxies and total brightness of the cluster. He found that there was about 400 times more estimated mass than was visually observable. The gravity of the visible galaxies in the cluster would be far too small for such fast orbits, so something extra was required. This is known as the "missing mass problem". Based on these conclusions, Zwicky inferred that there must be some non-visible form of matter which would provide enough of the mass and gravity to hold the cluster together.
Much of the evidence for dark matter comes from the study of the motions of galaxies.[10] Many of these appear to be fairly uniform, so by the virial theorem the total kinetic energy should be half the total gravitational binding energy of the galaxies. Experimentally, however, the total kinetic energy is found to be much greater: in particular, assuming the gravitational mass is due to only the visible matter of the galaxy, stars far from the center of galaxies have much higher velocities than predicted by the virial theorem. Galactic rotation curves, which illustrate the velocity of rotation versus the distance from the galactic center, cannot be explained by only the visible matter. Assuming that the visible material makes up only a small part of the cluster is the most straightforward way of accounting for this. Galaxies show signs of being composed largely of a roughly spherically symmetric, centrally concentrated halo of dark matter with the visible matter concentrated in a disc at the center. Low surface brightness dwarf galaxies are important sources of information for studying dark matter, as they have an uncommonly low ratio of visible matter to dark matter, and have few bright stars at the center which would otherwise impair observations of the rotation curve of outlying stars.
Gravitational lensing observations of galaxy clusters allow direct estimates of the gravitational mass based on its effect on light from background galaxies, since large collections of matter (dark or otherwise) will gravitationally deflect light. In clusters such as Abell 1689, lensing observations confirm the presence of considerably more mass than is indicated by the clusters' light alone. In the Bullet Cluster, lensing observations show that much of the lensing mass is separated from the X-ray-emitting baryonic mass.

It's one of the well known weaker theories, for which there is currently no direct evidence, only observational.

Well known yes, observational, not so much. Its existence is inferred only through a mathematical construct to attempt to explain anomolous galactic motions that in themselves may not be accurate as there is so little observed motion to run the calcs with.

It's a close kin of Einsteins Cosmological constant in that regard I believe, though I have to admit it's been a LONG time since I was current on any of that!

 

[Gadawg73]

How did that dark energy matter come to be?

That's the sound of my point going over your head.

Do you know what dark energy/matter is?

No one "knows" what Dark Matter is or even if it exists. It is currently in the realm of cosmological theory. There is mathematical evidence that it exists but so far no empirical data to support its existence.

Total BS. Dark matter tests have been proven valid for almost 80 years.
It exists and comprises as much as 90% of everything.
You believe they just make these things up?

 

[westwall]

That's the sound of my point going over your head.

Do you know what dark energy/matter is?

No one "knows" what Dark Matter is or even if it exists. It is currently in the realm of cosmological theory. There is mathematical evidence that it exists but so far no empirical data to support its existence.

Total BS. Dark matter tests have been proven valid for almost 80 years.
It exists and comprises as much as 90% of everything.
You believe they just make these things up?

Then please show us the tests. The link below is the best science for non-scientists explanation of dark matter and energy. As can be seen there is little empirical evidence of it. Inference and mathematics are the realm of Dark Matter and Energy.


http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Dark_matter

 

[Gadawg73]

No one "knows" what Dark Matter is or even if it exists. It is currently in the realm of cosmological theory. There is mathematical evidence that it exists but so far no empirical data to support its existence.

Total BS. Dark matter tests have been proven valid for almost 80 years.
It exists and comprises as much as 90% of everything.
You believe they just make these things up?

Then please show us the tests. The link below is the best science for non-scientists explanation of dark matter and energy. As can be seen there is little empirical evidence of it. Inference and mathematics are the realm of Dark Matter and Energy.


Dark matter - New World Encyclopedia

No, you said no one knows if it even exists.
Yes, we know SOMETHING exists and you even admit that in another post.
Something does exist. Now do they know to label it "dark" or "some unknown" or whatever? No, not really. Sort of like do we call the glass half full or half empty but we know there is something IN the glass.
It IS there and they know it. Right? They just have not figured out the whys and the hows but it is there.

 

[FurthurBB]

In case you missed it I clarified what I said. It was figuratively speaking not to specifically say you. So Can you answer my question?

No, dancing around the issue is not helpful. You directed the comment at me with "you", I could believe you were talking about scientists in general, but since most scientists believe in god, that would also be false. I will not answer your question as it is not germane to this topic. I will say that I find religion to be fascinating and have studied many different ones. I have tremendous respect for many religious people and their beliefs. And also, do not feel like what anyone believes has any baring on my life unless they try to push it on everyone or defame my life's work because they lack faith to understand it doesn't have anything to do with their beliefs.

and I clarified what I said and meant, when you brought it to my attention, if I felt you said it I would insist you said it, and started looking for your post.

Now stop dragging your feet Do you believe in God?

But I will note that your lettering when speaking of God you use little letters a good sign of an atheist reply.

So if it is not your intent to argue that there is no God come forward and clarify your answer and intent?

I said it twice what my intent is, and I have already said all I am going to say about my feelings on god and religion.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

No, dancing around the issue is not helpful. You directed the comment at me with "you", I could believe you were talking about scientists in general, but since most scientists believe in god, that would also be false. I will not answer your question as it is not germane to this topic. I will say that I find religion to be fascinating and have studied many different ones. I have tremendous respect for many religious people and their beliefs. And also, do not feel like what anyone believes has any baring on my life unless they try to push it on everyone or defame my life's work because they lack faith to understand it doesn't have anything to do with their beliefs.

and I clarified what I said and meant, when you brought it to my attention, if I felt you said it I would insist you said it, and started looking for your post.

Now stop dragging your feet Do you believe in God?

But I will note that your lettering when speaking of God you use little letters a good sign of an atheist reply.

So if it is not your intent to argue that there is no God come forward and clarify your answer and intent?

I said it twice what my intent is, and I have already said all I am going to say about my feelings on god and religion.

OK sure what ever you say.

 

[westwall]

Total BS. Dark matter tests have been proven valid for almost 80 years.
It exists and comprises as much as 90% of everything.
You believe they just make these things up?

Then please show us the tests. The link below is the best science for non-scientists explanation of dark matter and energy. As can be seen there is little empirical evidence of it. Inference and mathematics are the realm of Dark Matter and Energy.


Dark matter - New World Encyclopedia

No, you said no one knows if it even exists.
Yes, we know SOMETHING exists and you even admit that in another post.
Something does exist. Now do they know to label it "dark" or "some unknown" or whatever? No, not really. Sort of like do we call the glass half full or half empty but we know there is something IN the glass.
It IS there and they know it. Right? They just have not figured out the whys and the hows but it is there.

No, we don't "know". Look up inferred and get back to us when you figure out what that means.