Europe: The Psychological Gap Between East and West.

[Coyote]

Meanwhile they are cracking down on rights and freedom.

They are limiting the ability of those you support who wish to destroy all rights and freedom forever by turning Europe into yet another Islamic cesspool.

A jackboot stomping upon the human face forever is the very antithesis of freedom .

Anti terror units across Europe.

This is the way we live.

I am utterly sickened by all the pieces of refuse living on the West who have dedicated themselves to assisting their Jihad.

So you support cracking down on religious freedom and rights?

Turning a western country into an Islamist hellhole is not a right.

Any sovereign country should have the right to refuse entry to those who wish to destroy its culture and replace it with one that is primitive.

You are not answering the question.

Freedom of all to follow the faith of their choice, and not be persecuted for it.

Do you or do you not support those rights?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

They are limiting the ability of those you support who wish to destroy all rights and freedom forever by turning Europe into yet another Islamic cesspool.

A jackboot stomping upon the human face forever is the very antithesis of freedom .

Anti terror units across Europe.

This is the way we live.

I am utterly sickened by all the pieces of refuse living on the West who have dedicated themselves to assisting their Jihad.

So you support cracking down on religious freedom and rights?

Turning a western country into an Islamist hellhole is not a right.

Any sovereign country should have the right to refuse entry to those who wish to destroy its culture and replace it with one that is primitive.

You are not answering the question.

Freedom of all to follow the faith of their choice, and not be persecuted for it.

Do you or do you not support those rights?

When practicing a so-called "faith" involves sedidious political behavior, no.

Just because we call an all-encompassing supremacist ideology a religion, that does not mean that the supremacists should be free to take over.

A country has ever right to place sensible limits on the ability of invaders to just have their way with things.


You and all other jihadists are simply trying to use Western freedoms to destroy it so you turn us from Dar am Herb to Dar am Islam . Once you are successful, there will BE no freedom.

Your faux concern for freedom only extends to your fellow Islamists. Your continual laughing over the massive number of British children your people are raping is proof of this. You simply do not care about the lives nor the cultures of those living in Western liberal societies - only your fellow Islamists.

 

[Mindful]

Anti terror units across Europe.

This is the way we live.

I am utterly sickened by all the pieces of refuse living on the West who have dedicated themselves to assisting their Jihad.

So you support cracking down on religious freedom and rights?

Turning a western country into an Islamist hellhole is not a right.

Any sovereign country should have the right to refuse entry to those who wish to destroy its culture and replace it with one that is primitive.

You are not answering the question.

Freedom of all to follow the faith of their choice, and not be persecuted for it.

Do you or do you not support those rights?

When practicing a so-called "faith" involves sedidious political behavior, no.

Just because we call an all-encompassing supremacist ideology a religion, that does not mean that the supremacists should be free to take over.

A country has ever right to place sensible limits on the ability of invaders to just have their way with things.


You and all other jihadists are simply trying to use Western freedoms to destroy it so you turn us from Dar am Herb to Dar am Islam . Once you are successful, there will BE no freedom.

Your faux concern for freedom only extends to your fellow Islamists. Your continual laughing over the massive number of British children your people are raping is proof of this. You simply do not care about the lives nor the cultures of those living in Western liberal societies - only your fellow Islamists.

Did you see the Israeli flag bring burnt in London today?

 

[Coyote]

Anti terror units across Europe.

This is the way we live.

I am utterly sickened by all the pieces of refuse living on the West who have dedicated themselves to assisting their Jihad.

So you support cracking down on religious freedom and rights?

Turning a western country into an Islamist hellhole is not a right.

Any sovereign country should have the right to refuse entry to those who wish to destroy its culture and replace it with one that is primitive.

You are not answering the question.

Freedom of all to follow the faith of their choice, and not be persecuted for it.

Do you or do you not support those rights?

When practicing a so-called "faith" involves sedidious political behavior, no.

Just because we call an all-encompassing supremacist ideology a religion, that does not mean that the supremacists should be free to take over.

A country has ever right to place sensible limits on the ability of invaders to just have their way with things.


You and all other jihadists are simply trying to use Western freedoms to destroy it so you turn us from Dar am Herb to Dar am Islam . Once you are successful, there will BE no freedom.

Your faux concern for freedom only extends to your fellow Islamists. Your continual laughing over the massive number of British children your people are raping is proof of this. You simply do not care about the lives nor the cultures of those living in Western liberal societies - only your fellow Islamists.

Yes or no.

You dont get to define what isnt or is a religion. Not up to you.

I will make it a little easier for you. Countries with the greatest degree of freedom are those with secular legal system that recognizes and protects human rights and freedoms. So a person cant claim human sacrifice is part of his faith and practice it and claim religious freedom.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I am utterly sickened by all the pieces of refuse living on the West who have dedicated themselves to assisting their Jihad.

So you support cracking down on religious freedom and rights?

Turning a western country into an Islamist hellhole is not a right.

Any sovereign country should have the right to refuse entry to those who wish to destroy its culture and replace it with one that is primitive.

You are not answering the question.

Freedom of all to follow the faith of their choice, and not be persecuted for it.

Do you or do you not support those rights?

When practicing a so-called "faith" involves sedidious political behavior, no.

Just because we call an all-encompassing supremacist ideology a religion, that does not mean that the supremacists should be free to take over.

A country has ever right to place sensible limits on the ability of invaders to just have their way with things.


You and all other jihadists are simply trying to use Western freedoms to destroy it so you turn us from Dar am Herb to Dar am Islam . Once you are successful, there will BE no freedom.

Your faux concern for freedom only extends to your fellow Islamists. Your continual laughing over the massive number of British children your people are raping is proof of this. You simply do not care about the lives nor the cultures of those living in Western liberal societies - only your fellow Islamists.

Yes or no.

You dont get to define what isnt or is a religion. Not up to you.

I will make it a little easier for you. Countries with the greatest degree of freedom are those with secular legal system that recognizes and protects human rights and freedoms. So a person cant claim human sacrifice is part of his faith and practice it and claim religious freedom.

The child rapists you support are following their so-called faith.

Mohammad ordered his fellow thieves torape the females of the lands they invaded and had sex with a very young child, himself.

 

[zaangalewa]

The EU began as an economic bloc which should be its only role. Sadly German and French politicians pushed a social agenda for the EU, asking member countries to subordinate their sovereignty and culture along the way.

If you look carefully you will see the in France, Italy, Germany and many other EU member countries the rise of populism is in part fueled by citizens no longer willing to subordinate their culture and sovereignty to Brussels.

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Or with other words: The ambassador of the USA Richard Grenell - and people like Steve Bannon or Stephen Miller - support in Europe and all over the world including the USA nationalistic Nazi-movements, great-again movements, isolationism movements, anti-globalisation movements, fake news movements an so on and so on ... on reason "divide et impera" ...

 

[zaangalewa]

Hungarians suffered under the yoke of both communism and the Ottomans.

It is only natural for them to resist the machinations of Brussels which combines elements of both.

It's idiotic how Hungaria is addicted in Viktor Orban and his very narrow minded point of view to the world: "Everything for me - nothing for anyone else". Meanwhile Hungaria fights even against the own poor people, instead to try to fight against poorness itselve. Orban makes whole Hungaria to his own Potemkin village. Slogan: "What I do not see is not existing." And the wide-spreaded anti-semitism in Hungaria is a shame for Hungaria on its own, more than 70 years after the holocaust.

 

[zaangalewa]

Eastern Europe seems to be turning towards more authoritarianism and an erosion of liberties. I dont see how that is a good thing. They flooded Western European countries with people in search of better jobs when EU membership opened borders.

https://www.freedomofconscience.eu/deterioration-of-religious-freedom-in-eastern-europe/

In Europe, religious minorities face mounting hostility, harassment - Religion News Service

Membership of the EU is dragging these countries to a better standard of living. That is why they are all so keen to join.There is zero chance that they will throw that away.

What does a "standard of living" even mean?

Oh dear.

Ditto.

If you travel through new EU member states the quality of life is often better than what you find in western Europe. All the same chains of stores are present in the new member states from fashion to hypermarkets and the cost of living is often less than in western Europe. Doctors still make house calls and there is a mix of private and public healthcare options at a very affordable cost with well-trained and educated personnel. Some beautiful cities like Budapest, Prague and Krakow rival the beauty of western European cities and there are some very beautiful countryside and historic sites to visit.

New member states are not being dragged, they are moving forward not wishing to imitate the mistakes of western Europe.

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And what is the mistake of "western" Europe? To pay for and to stabalize this good way with money from the EU - but to lose Great Britain?

 

[zaangalewa]

The rift between Western and Central Europe runs deep. It is the result of different definitions of what the EU is and what it should be.

In 2006 I joined official meetings in Warsaw between the Belgian prime minister and the two Kaczyński brothers. The first meeting was with Lech Kaczyński, then president of Poland, who died in a plane crash in 2010; the second was with Jarosław Kaczyński, then prime minister of Poland, who is still the leader of the ruling Law and Justice Party (or PiS) today. I remember well how both the Belgian and the Polish delegations did not seem to understand each other. On the Belgian side, we were surprised to hear how much the Kascyńskis were rambling on about the Russian and the German dangers. The Polish side, on the other hand, didn’t understand why we Belgians were pleading for more European integration, once again.

Today, some twelve years later, this perhaps personal misunderstanding has transformed into an open rift between Western and Eastern (or Central) Europe. This divide was made abundantly clear in the European Parliament in September, when many Eastern European parties voted against sanctioning the Hungarian government, led by Viktor Orbán, for rule-of-law breaches. Many Western Europeans couldn’t understand this support for what Orbán himself calls “illiberal democracy.” At the same time, many Eastern Europeans considered the sanctions unhelpful and certainly one step too far.

Where does this mutual misunderstanding come from? Some would argue it is the result of Europe’s so-called refugee crisis of 2015, when Western European countries tried to push all EU member states to accept and integrate a percentage of the refugees. The refusal by the East frustrated the West. But I believe that the EU’s East-West rift is much older and more fundamental. It is the result of different histories and different views of what Europe is or should be. In other words, Eastern and Western Europe don’t share the same political psychology.

Europe: The Psychological Gap Between East and West

Letter from Europe about Europe.

I live in Poland and I can tell you the amount of anti-government propaganda and very often blatant lies are spread about Poland in left-wing media in western EU, especially in German newspapers.

Self printed German newspapers?

Did you know that German papers wrote 3 or 4 articles on 'endangered democracy" in Poland and at the same time they "omitted" the attacks of Arabs and Africans on European women in Koln and Hamburg during New Year Eve 2015?

Your government tried and tries to overtake your courts for example. That's a serios danger for your democracy and for the quality of life. Or do you like to spend one day some years in custody because of wrong parking? And what had happend in Cologne by drunkard Arabs in 2015 is not a problem any longer. Meanwhile the most Arabs know very well that in Germany everyone has to respect women. And if someone doesn't know - or doesn't like to know - then we are ready to teach this very effective.

What you need to know is that, these are lies are often spread by Polish propaganda makers (I cannot call them journalists) from "Gazeta Wyborcza", "Newsweek"and some other newspapers, very loyal to Civic platform and former government.

I don't know this newspaper - but it's normally a Nazi-attitude to speak always about "Lügenpresse" = "fake news press", when someone writes something, what they don't like to hear.

Also, Civic platform still has strong representation in Europarliament and there they act against Poland by encouraging debate about law and democracy in our country almost asking for foreign intervention.

Very clear: The EU has to support democracies and not tyrannies.

That's just disgusting what some traitorous politicians

"traitorous politicians" if often only a Nazi-attitude too. Did you ever hear the expression "opposition"?

are willing to do to come back to power and regain all priviledges.

Solidarnosc (solidarity) tries to comes back? ...

Democracy in Poland looks excellent.

No.

Western Europe with its suicidal political correctness,

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media censorship and absurd tolerance propaganda can learn from Poland what it means to have freedom of speech or freedom of assembly.

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You can see, how media works. We have many channels, "public television" which is of course pro-government,

Of course pro-government? Why? Pays your government for with money from the taxpayers?

we have private networks (TVN, Polsat) and also plenty of internet media.
Believe, western Europe should be affraid of the "religion of peace" coming from Middle East than Polsih democracy alleged issues.

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[Meathead]

Eastern Europe seems to be turning towards more authoritarianism and an erosion of liberties. I dont see how that is a good thing. They flooded Western European countries with people in search of better jobs when EU membership opened borders.

https://www.freedomofconscience.eu/deterioration-of-religious-freedom-in-eastern-europe/

In Europe, religious minorities face mounting hostility, harassment - Religion News Service

Do you think Eastern Europe wants a flood of immigrants from the religion of "peace" or the impoverished and diseased from Africa? If you do, there's something wrong with you.

 

[zaangalewa]

Eastern Europe seems to be turning towards more authoritarianism and an erosion of liberties. I dont see how that is a good thing. They flooded Western European countries with people in search of better jobs when EU membership opened borders.

https://www.freedomofconscience.eu/deterioration-of-religious-freedom-in-eastern-europe/

In Europe, religious minorities face mounting hostility, harassment - Religion News Service

Membership of the EU is dragging these countries to a better standard of living. That is why they are all so keen to join.There is zero chance that they will throw that away.

What does a "standard of living" even mean?

To be able to live without fear in a good warm dry place with enough good food and educated friends who care for each other - also in times of sadness and sickness.

Oh dear.

Ditto.

If you travel through new EU member states the quality of life is often better than what you find in western Europe. All the same chains of stores are present in the new member states from fashion to hypermarkets and the cost of living is often less than in western Europe. Doctors still make house calls and there is a mix of private and public healthcare options at a very affordable cost with well-trained and educated personnel. Some beautiful cities like Budapest, Prague and Krakow rival the beauty of western European cities and there are some very beautiful countryside and historic sites to visit.

New member states are not being dragged, they are moving forward not wishing to imitate the mistakes of western Europe.

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Meanwhile they are cracking down on rights and freedom.

They are limiting the ability of those you support who wish to destroy all rights and freedom forever by turning Europe into yet another Islamic cesspool.

A jackboot stomping upon the human face forever is the very antithesis of freedom .

Anti terror units across Europe.

This is the way we live.

Yea - terrorists - and everywhere public viewings. But who is who?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Hungarians suffered under the yoke of both communism and the Ottomans.

It is only natural for them to resist the machinations of Brussels which combines elements of both.

It's idiotic how Hungaria is addicted in Viktor Orban and his very narrow minded point of view to the world: "Everything for me - nothing for anyone else". Meanwhile Hungaria fights even against the own poor people, instead to try to fight against poorness itselve. Orban makes whole Hungaria to his own Potemkin village. Slogan: "What I do not see is not existing." And the wide-spreaded anti-semitism in Hungaria is a shame for Hungaria on its own, more than 70 years after the holocaust.

I saw a documentary about the plight of Hungarian Gypsies a little while back. It was shameful stuff which Hitler would have applauded.
At some point the EU need to take some action but I am not sure what that should be.

 

[Decus]

Hungarians suffered under the yoke of both communism and the Ottomans.

It is only natural for them to resist the machinations of Brussels which combines elements of both.

It's idiotic how Hungaria is addicted in Viktor Orban and his very narrow minded point of view to the world: "Everything for me - nothing for anyone else". Meanwhile Hungaria fights even against the own poor people, instead to try to fight against poorness itselve. Orban makes whole Hungaria to his own Potemkin village. Slogan: "What I do not see is not existing." And the wide-spreaded anti-semitism in Hungaria is a shame for Hungaria on its own, more than 70 years after the holocaust.

I saw a documentary about the plight of Hungarian Gypsies a little while back. It was shameful stuff which Hitler would have applauded.
At some point the EU need to take some action but I am not sure what that should be.

Send the Gypsies to live in Wales. Tommy will care for them as he is a man of action who deplores praying for a solution. Thank you Tommy.

.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Hungarians suffered under the yoke of both communism and the Ottomans.

It is only natural for them to resist the machinations of Brussels which combines elements of both.

It's idiotic how Hungaria is addicted in Viktor Orban and his very narrow minded point of view to the world: "Everything for me - nothing for anyone else". Meanwhile Hungaria fights even against the own poor people, instead to try to fight against poorness itselve. Orban makes whole Hungaria to his own Potemkin village. Slogan: "What I do not see is not existing." And the wide-spreaded anti-semitism in Hungaria is a shame for Hungaria on its own, more than 70 years after the holocaust.

I saw a documentary about the plight of Hungarian Gypsies a little while back. It was shameful stuff which Hitler would have applauded.
At some point the EU need to take some action but I am not sure what that should be.

Send the Gypsies to live in Wales. Tommy will care for them as he is a man of action who deplores praying for a solution. Thank you Tommy.

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So you advocate pogroms ? How very right wing of you.

 

[zaangalewa]

Hungarians suffered under the yoke of both communism and the Ottomans.

It is only natural for them to resist the machinations of Brussels which combines elements of both.

It's idiotic how Hungaria is addicted in Viktor Orban and his very narrow minded point of view to the world: "Everything for me - nothing for anyone else". Meanwhile Hungaria fights even against the own poor people, instead to try to fight against poorness itselve. Orban makes whole Hungaria to his own Potemkin village. Slogan: "What I do not see is not existing." And the wide-spreaded anti-semitism in Hungaria is a shame for Hungaria on its own, more than 70 years after the holocaust.

I saw a documentary about the plight of Hungarian Gypsies a little while back. It was shameful stuff which Hitler would have applauded.
At some point the EU need to take some action but I am not sure what that should be.

As far as I can see suggests the so called "Visigrad-Group" (Poland, Czechia, Slovakia, Ungaria) to be independent and they like to have Austria and Slowenia in their subunion. Macron suggested not a long time ago a kind of mediterranian Union. Then the rest (including England) would be a kind of North-Union (Scandinavia including Denmark, Estonia, Latvia, Lituania, Germany, Netherlands, England). I guess this will happen when the European nations lose more and more the ability to communicate with each other and continue to be not able to solve the most easy problems together. I wonder myselve why Viktor Orban is not in jail.

Orban tried by the way to install death penalty in Hungaria. If this had happened then Viktor Orban had excluded automatically Hungaria from the European Union. Not all values of the European Union are negotiable.

 

[Decus]

Hungarians suffered under the yoke of both communism and the Ottomans.

It is only natural for them to resist the machinations of Brussels which combines elements of both.

It's idiotic how Hungaria is addicted in Viktor Orban and his very narrow minded point of view to the world: "Everything for me - nothing for anyone else". Meanwhile Hungaria fights even against the own poor people, instead to try to fight against poorness itselve. Orban makes whole Hungaria to his own Potemkin village. Slogan: "What I do not see is not existing." And the wide-spreaded anti-semitism in Hungaria is a shame for Hungaria on its own, more than 70 years after the holocaust.

I saw a documentary about the plight of Hungarian Gypsies a little while back. It was shameful stuff which Hitler would have applauded.
At some point the EU need to take some action but I am not sure what that should be.

Send the Gypsies to live in Wales. Tommy will care for them as he is a man of action who deplores praying for a solution. Thank you Tommy.

.

So you advocate pogroms ? How very right wing of you.

Being the lefty that you are I thought you'd want to take the lead, roll up your sleeves and show us how it's done.

Many individuals have started organizations to address issues that they feel are wrong. Many of these same individuals started with little or no money, just a burning desire to address something they felt was a problem.

Do you really care Tommy? If so, get to work.

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[zaangalewa]

Hungarians suffered under the yoke of both communism and the Ottomans.

It is only natural for them to resist the machinations of Brussels which combines elements of both.

It's idiotic how Hungaria is addicted in Viktor Orban and his very narrow minded point of view to the world: "Everything for me - nothing for anyone else". Meanwhile Hungaria fights even against the own poor people, instead to try to fight against poorness itselve. Orban makes whole Hungaria to his own Potemkin village. Slogan: "What I do not see is not existing." And the wide-spreaded anti-semitism in Hungaria is a shame for Hungaria on its own, more than 70 years after the holocaust.

I saw a documentary about the plight of Hungarian Gypsies a little while back. It was shameful stuff which Hitler would have applauded.
At some point the EU need to take some action but I am not sure what that should be.

Send the Gypsies to live in Wales. Tommy will care for them as he is a man of action who deplores praying for a solution. Thank you Tommy.

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Any idea where your contempt for mankind comes from?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Hungarians suffered under the yoke of both communism and the Ottomans.

It is only natural for them to resist the machinations of Brussels which combines elements of both.

It's idiotic how Hungaria is addicted in Viktor Orban and his very narrow minded point of view to the world: "Everything for me - nothing for anyone else". Meanwhile Hungaria fights even against the own poor people, instead to try to fight against poorness itselve. Orban makes whole Hungaria to his own Potemkin village. Slogan: "What I do not see is not existing." And the wide-spreaded anti-semitism in Hungaria is a shame for Hungaria on its own, more than 70 years after the holocaust.

I saw a documentary about the plight of Hungarian Gypsies a little while back. It was shameful stuff which Hitler would have applauded.
At some point the EU need to take some action but I am not sure what that should be.

As far as I can see suggests the so called "Visigrad-Group" (Poland, Czechia, Slovakia, Ungaria) to be independent and they like to have Austria and Slowenia in their subunion. Macron suggested not a long time ago a kind of mediterranian Union. Then the rest (including England) would be a kind of North-Union (Scandinavia including Denmark, Estonia, Latvia, Lituania, Germany, Netherlands, England). I guess this will happen when the European nations lose more and more the ability to communicate with each other and continue to be not able to solve the most easy problems together. I wonder myselve why Viktor Orban is not in jail.

Orban tried by the way to install death penalty in Hungaria. If this had happened then Viktor Orban had excluded automatically Hungaria from the European Union. Not all values of the European Union are negotiable.

I am torn between thinking some of these places should be kicked out against the fact that contact be of benefit to those cultures.

 

[Decus]

Hungarians suffered under the yoke of both communism and the Ottomans.

It is only natural for them to resist the machinations of Brussels which combines elements of both.

It's idiotic how Hungaria is addicted in Viktor Orban and his very narrow minded point of view to the world: "Everything for me - nothing for anyone else". Meanwhile Hungaria fights even against the own poor people, instead to try to fight against poorness itselve. Orban makes whole Hungaria to his own Potemkin village. Slogan: "What I do not see is not existing." And the wide-spreaded anti-semitism in Hungaria is a shame for Hungaria on its own, more than 70 years after the holocaust.

I saw a documentary about the plight of Hungarian Gypsies a little while back. It was shameful stuff which Hitler would have applauded.
At some point the EU need to take some action but I am not sure what that should be.

Send the Gypsies to live in Wales. Tommy will care for them as he is a man of action who deplores praying for a solution. Thank you Tommy.

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Any idea where your contempt for mankind comes from?

My contempt is for whiners too lazy to make an effort. What have you done to fix the problem?

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[zaangalewa]

Hungarians suffered under the yoke of both communism and the Ottomans.

It is only natural for them to resist the machinations of Brussels which combines elements of both.

It's idiotic how Hungaria is addicted in Viktor Orban and his very narrow minded point of view to the world: "Everything for me - nothing for anyone else". Meanwhile Hungaria fights even against the own poor people, instead to try to fight against poorness itselve. Orban makes whole Hungaria to his own Potemkin village. Slogan: "What I do not see is not existing." And the wide-spreaded anti-semitism in Hungaria is a shame for Hungaria on its own, more than 70 years after the holocaust.

I saw a documentary about the plight of Hungarian Gypsies a little while back. It was shameful stuff which Hitler would have applauded.
At some point the EU need to take some action but I am not sure what that should be.

As far as I can see suggests the so called "Visigrad-Group" (Poland, Czechia, Slovakia, Ungaria) to be independent and they like to have Austria and Slowenia in their subunion. Macron suggested not a long time ago a kind of mediterranian Union. Then the rest (including England) would be a kind of North-Union (Scandinavia including Denmark, Estonia, Latvia, Lituania, Germany, Netherlands, England). I guess this will happen when the European nations lose more and more the ability to communicate with each other and continue to be not able to solve the most easy problems together. I wonder myselve why Viktor Orban is not in jail.

Orban tried by the way to install death penalty in Hungaria. If this had happened then Viktor Orban had excluded automatically Hungaria from the European Union. Not all values of the European Union are negotiable.

I am torn between thinking some of these places should be kicked out against the fact that contact be of benefit to those cultures.

The most Brits learned the first time in their life something about the real European Union when the Brexit started - before it was always only a scapegoat for the mistakes of the British politicians - and now GB is not able to repeat this referendum, because the British society is divided in two irreconcilable opposites. And the USA is a country somewhere in the near of a civil war too. So what do you call "benefit"? How to convince everyone from common values as a basics for common deeds? I would say the EU is first of all a peace project - this means "we" will speak with everyone "unlimited" - because to speak is always better than to shoot. But this means not that everything is negotiable or a deal, how the modern world today says.