Debate Now ETUFO's

[RWS]

Is he senile and old and crazy? Or is there a cover-up?

Watch the video and tell me what you take from it. If you don't watch it Isaac, after my 3rd plea that you watch it, we will have words about ignorance and denial, and science being a religion of its own in your mind.

 

[Two Thumbs]

I'm only going to say what ancient societies told us, regarding "trade". Wasn't really "trade" at that point, just gifts of knowledge for what we did for them.

Take a look at your watch, or a clock around you. What is the current time? It's 3:27 here.

Divide or multiply that by 5. I will bet you are waaay off.

Time keeping is your proof?

bruh

I learned these conversions in HS.

I couldn't do it now b/c it's been to long

OK, when you can, let me know your answer. Because apparently, Sumerians were doing these calculations based on that counting system 6000 years ago. And who taught them, per their own words? The Anunnaki.

everything came from the gods to get people to accept it.

do the numbers like this or the gods will be angry and the crops won't grow


seriously, you're fooling yourself with 6000 y/o religious dogma

 

[IsaacNewton]

I guess we have to clarify.

There is no evidence put forth by a credible source. Conspiracy circles and groups are the opposite of a credible source.

I'll get to that one, starting with #2.

May as well start studying up on Rendlesham/Brightwaters, because that's next, and I got a lotta stuff to say!

Evidence means scientific evidence that is accepted by the worldwide scientific community. It doesn't mean anyone who has a hunch.

There is no evidence. I'd like to see other life visit, I think there is other life out there, but it hasn't visited. It wouldn't be the big secret blah blah blah that is shown in movies. It would be the same as if we sent a probe to another planet orbiting another star. The sole purpose would be to contact ANYONE that is there to be contacted.

And FYI, evidence is what is understood by our peers.

I guess we have to clarify.

There is no evidence put forth by a credible source. Conspiracy circles and groups are the opposite of a credible source.

I'll get to that one, starting with #2.

May as well start studying up on Rendlesham/Brightwaters, because that's next, and I got a lotta stuff to say!

Evidence means scientific evidence that is accepted by the worldwide scientific community. It doesn't mean anyone who has a hunch.

There is no evidence. I'd like to see other life visit, I think there is other life out there, but it hasn't visited. It wouldn't be the big secret blah blah blah that is shown in movies. It would be the same as if we sent a probe to another planet orbiting another star. The sole purpose would be to contact ANYONE that is there to be contacted.

Let me tell you something about the "worldwide scientific community"... They have been proven wrong, every time a new idea comes along.

I understand you need empirical evidence. I understand you need math to make it true. But every scientist in the world agrees that extra-terrestrial life is possible and abundant. And intelligent forms of life outside of the earth are highly likely. Very highly likely.

So when people on the earth claim to have been seeing these things for 6000 years of documented history (and more based on pre-Sumerian tribes), what exactly are you trying to prove?

That aliens cannot visit Earth?

Or that there is no proof of a crashed alien spacecraft that we can point to as evidence to prove they are real?


Because the testimonial evidence far outweighs the lack of physical proof. In a court of law that theoretically has to determine such a thing... it would be a slam-dunk for the pro-alien side.

And fyi, the physical proof has already been shown to be scuttled away and hidden in many modern cases. (Roswell, Kecksburg, etc...)

Because obviously, any government wants to hide any alien technology they can get a hold of. They want to re-engineer the technology and take advantage of their new-found knowledge. Every large continent has their own Roswell incident.

I just ask for people to open your minds, and see things outside of the box. Not so much to let your brains spill out, but enough to see the alternatives to our modern reality.

And UFO's in present and past, are first and foremost. That's what I'm going to show you, and I hope you keep me on track by calling me out on anything I say wrong, or disproving my logic.

"Let me tell you something about the "worldwide scientific community"... They have been proven wrong, every time a new idea comes along."


And I'm out.

 

[RWS]

Well of course you're out. You need to be able to debate ideas intelligently, and by listening to the other side. Which you refused to do so far.

And if you disagree with scientific ideas being proven wrong, every time a new idea comes along, then you're not a scientist, or scientifically minded. You're a believer in the modern status quo.

But that status quo has changed tremendously in just the last 100 years. And changes every day. So keep an open mind and be on top of things.

And Two Thumbs, I am very far from being a 6000 yr Earther. What happened is that 6000 years ago, the Sumerians "learned" how to write. And they started writing recorded history. All our recorded history stems from them 6000 years ago. It is not a religious thing. People existed before, and other things existed before during the earth's 4 billion year old history. But written, documented history, started with the 1st known civilization 6000 years ago. The Sumerians. Google it. And they said they learned everything from the Anunnaki. Every major religion since has stemmed from what they wrote after the Anunnaki left. And since some of those people can't trace things past 6000 years per the Bible, they think the earth and universe were created 6000 years ago. No, human civilization was created 6000 years ago by the Sumerians. The earth was created just over 4 billion years ago per our modern estimates.

So get your arguments straight, because i don't want to be rude, but neither of you are putting forth an even decent rebuttal to my statements. Besides ridicule.... You're relying on ridicule, ignorance, and dismissal of evidence presented.

Jus sayin...

 

[RWS]

I would take a look in the mirror, you two, and ask who is following a religion and who is following evidence. Science can be a religion once it takes over your logical thinking. Don't agree with them just to be "cool". Always question, and let logical possibilities run their course in your mind. And never think anything is fact. Including aliens!

We have so much more to learn in the areas of quantum physics, that nothing can be considered "fact". Just an illusion of our perception.

 

[RWS]

So next up... is the Hudson Boomerang!

Wow, this thing was seen by thousands and thousands of people during a period in the 1980's, throughout Connecticut and New York. Reported by thousands to the police and news. It flew over I-95 and hovered, causing people to pull over on a major interstate highway and get out of their cars to watch it. And see it take off at an incredible rate. It flew across the state of CT one time, generating countless reports.

The military explanation? 3 low-flying airplanes on military exercise.... That was the official explanation in the papers, later revised to 6 low-flying airplanes... And then 9...

But these low-flying airplanes were able to hover, travel slowly, and take off at great rates of speed, all without making a sound.

This was witnessed by my ex-wife, who because of her religion refuses to think that it is "alien", but definitely refutes the "official" explanation since she saw it about 100-150 feet away ("across the street" as she put it). This is a pic I showed her, and she says that it is exactly what she saw from close up...

I have to believe her. She says it was not 3 or 6 or 9 low-flying airplanes. She has no idea what it was. Just definitely not what the military said it was. And if they're flying secret aircraft that have these crazy abilities and have never been used since, wouldn't it be safer to fly them over uninhabited areas in Nevada, and not over major metropolitan areas observed by thousands? And risk crashing them into Hartford?

 

[Two Thumbs]

Well of course you're out. You need to be able to debate ideas intelligently, and by listening to the other side. Which you refused to do so far.

And if you disagree with scientific ideas being proven wrong, every time a new idea comes along, then you're not a scientist, or scientifically minded. You're a believer in the modern status quo.

But that status quo has changed tremendously in just the last 100 years. And changes every day. So keep an open mind and be on top of things.

And Two Thumbs, I am very far from being a 6000 yr Earther. What happened is that 6000 years ago, the Sumerians "learned" how to write. And they started writing recorded history. All our recorded history stems from them 6000 years ago. It is not a religious thing. People existed before, and other things existed before during the earth's 4 billion year old history. But written, documented history, started with the 1st known civilization 6000 years ago. The Sumerians. Google it. And they said they learned everything from the Anunnaki. Every major religion since has stemmed from what they wrote after the Anunnaki left. And since some of those people can't trace things past 6000 years per the Bible, they think the earth and universe were created 6000 years ago. No, human civilization was created 6000 years ago by the Sumerians. The earth was created just over 4 billion years ago per our modern estimates.

So get your arguments straight, because i don't want to be rude, but neither of you are putting forth an even decent rebuttal to my statements. Besides ridicule.... You're relying on ridicule, ignorance, and dismissal of evidence presented.

Jus sayin...

so no one else learned to read and write

It's impossible to take you seriously, your claims are just absurd.

 

[Two Thumbs]

I would take a look in the mirror, you two, and ask who is following a religion and who is following evidence. Science can be a religion once it takes over your logical thinking. Don't agree with them just to be "cool". Always question, and let logical possibilities run their course in your mind. And never think anything is fact. Including aliens!

We have so much more to learn in the areas of quantum physics, that nothing can be considered "fact". Just an illusion of our perception.

Logical deduction removes aliens from all answers.

there's little reliable evidence and no proof.

 

[RWS]

... and then denying it?

 

[Two Thumbs]

shocking how much they look like people. The only differences is cosmetic.

 

[RWS]

Well of course you're out. You need to be able to debate ideas intelligently, and by listening to the other side. Which you refused to do so far.

And if you disagree with scientific ideas being proven wrong, every time a new idea comes along, then you're not a scientist, or scientifically minded. You're a believer in the modern status quo.

But that status quo has changed tremendously in just the last 100 years. And changes every day. So keep an open mind and be on top of things.

And Two Thumbs, I am very far from being a 6000 yr Earther. What happened is that 6000 years ago, the Sumerians "learned" how to write. And they started writing recorded history. All our recorded history stems from them 6000 years ago. It is not a religious thing. People existed before, and other things existed before during the earth's 4 billion year old history. But written, documented history, started with the 1st known civilization 6000 years ago. The Sumerians. Google it. And they said they learned everything from the Anunnaki. Every major religion since has stemmed from what they wrote after the Anunnaki left. And since some of those people can't trace things past 6000 years per the Bible, they think the earth and universe were created 6000 years ago. No, human civilization was created 6000 years ago by the Sumerians. The earth was created just over 4 billion years ago per our modern estimates.

So get your arguments straight, because i don't want to be rude, but neither of you are putting forth an even decent rebuttal to my statements. Besides ridicule.... You're relying on ridicule, ignorance, and dismissal of evidence presented.

Jus sayin...

so no one else learned to read and write

It's impossible to take you seriously, your claims are just absurd.

The Sumerians were the 1st to learn how to write. And therefore read as well

I'm not making this up.

Look it up. Because it's becoming increasingly impossible to take you seriously going forward. Jus sayin...

 

[RWS]

shocking how much they look like people. The only differences is cosmetic.

What is the purpose of this?

What religion do you follow, if you don't mind me asking?

 

[Two Thumbs]

shocking how much they look like people. The only differences is cosmetic.

What is the purpose of this?

What religion do you follow, if you don't mind me asking?

the purpose is to point out that they look like us, some of them look exactly like us, which is impossible.

Take note that one of these technologically advance people is carrying an ax.


I don't follow any religion, I find most of it absurd.

 

[RWS]

Of course you do, since you cannot allow anything outside to get in. And deny and ridicule in response.

You have to have a religion.

 

[RWS]

Just let it out, I won't make fun of it...

 

[RWS]

Is science your religion?

C'mon... you can tell me...

I just want to open your mind.

 

[Two Thumbs]

So now I'm a liar b/c I told you I don't have a religion.

awesome

 

[RWS]

Of course you have a religion. You probably just don't realize you do.

Like using modern cartoons to ridicule 6000 year old texts. And by the way, the cartoon is of post-Sumerian "mythical gods", and they're directly descended from the Sumerian texts about their Anunnaki rulers. Though names have been changed and situations changed for the religions that followed the original Sumerian texts about the Anunnaki. This plagiarism proceeded all the way to the Old Testament and further.

So why do you do that? What exactly are you trying to defend, that ancient aliens may disrupt?

Are you that ignorant of history, or are you so much in denial?

Because either one is a sign that you are following a religion even if you don't realize it.

 

[there4eyeM]

Any 'civilization' so advanced that it could cover the unfathomable distances to get to earth would certainly have the capacity to directly affect our humble, vulnerable human perceptions. What motive it would have for coming here and doing anything is beyond imagining.
'Something' is happening related to 'U.F.O.s', but what it is has not been determined and may not be possible to identify. It could even be some aspect of human collective unconscious. The most profound thing that can honestly be said is, "We don't know."

 

[RWS]

Right on!