Et tu, Stephen Hawking???

[sealadaigh]

Do you see people boycotting China for the horrific way they treat the Tibetans? The boycott is mainly because many people are anti-Semitic and this is the way they feel they can get at the Jews via Israel. I don't see people calling fcr the boycott of Pakistani clothes coming into this country even though the Sunni Muslims in Pakistan are busy killing other Muslims and non Muslims and the government doesn't really do anything about it. In fact, they jail non Muslims for so-called blasphemy.

this thread is about hawking's boycott of israel. it isn't abouit who does or doesn't boycott china.

playing the "anti-semite" card is weak, and particularly in this case when a man who was respected enough by israeli society to be invited to be a key speaker at a bash for shimon peres overnight becomes an "anti-semite" because he disagrees with political actions by a state in regards to the indigenous peoploe disenfranchised by that state.

why don't you show me one prior incident where hawking has shown any discrimination, bigoty, or hatred against jews as a people or religion. there are none. he doesn't even do it in his boycott.

there is a very real danger of trying to link anti-semitism to politics because it opens the door to real anti-semites. it already has. in the past, being called an anti-semite was a death knell. increasing though, it is beginning to signify people who stand up for human rights. you have hitler and mandela in the same group.

stop trying to get threads sent to the badlands.

Why not tell the anti-Semites that are swarming like cockroaches in Europe these days that calling them anti-Semites is being used as a tool. Since you want to appear as knowing it all, read some articles about what is going on in Europe with regard to anti-Semitism. Actually you probably don't care what is going on since you are the one who called another poster in Farsi a Dirty Jewish Dog.

Dr. Martha J. Smith Exposes Anti-Semitism in Europe, Challenges Christians to Fight Back - Times Union

The disturbing persistence of antisemitism in Europe | Katrina Lantos Swett | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

why don't you actually try to read and understand my posts before you leap in and prove my point.

 

[MHunterB]

i'm sure seal went crying to the mods for this already, like he usually does !

But thanks for the heads up

i was talking to seal about turning in a post yesterday and while he did say that it was up to me that he was not going to report any more posts as it seemed to him to be a pretty useless exercise. Seal has never lied on the board so i don't think he would start lying to me in private.

rotflol!

 

[irosie91]

wrong again deach---YOU prove Hoss' point every day

 

[Hossfly]

this thread is about hawking's boycott of israel. it isn't abouit who does or doesn't boycott china.

playing the "anti-semite" card is weak, and particularly in this case when a man who was respected enough by israeli society to be invited to be a key speaker at a bash for shimon peres overnight becomes an "anti-semite" because he disagrees with political actions by a state in regards to the indigenous peoploe disenfranchised by that state.

why don't you show me one prior incident where hawking has shown any discrimination, bigoty, or hatred against jews as a people or religion. there are none. he doesn't even do it in his boycott.

there is a very real danger of trying to link anti-semitism to politics because it opens the door to real anti-semites. it already has. in the past, being called an anti-semite was a death knell. increasing though, it is beginning to signify people who stand up for human rights. you have hitler and mandela in the same group.

stop trying to get threads sent to the badlands.

Why not tell the anti-Semites that are swarming like cockroaches in Europe these days that calling them anti-Semites is being used as a tool. Since you want to appear as knowing it all, read some articles about what is going on in Europe with regard to anti-Semitism. Actually you probably don't care what is going on since you are the one who called another poster in Farsi a Dirty Jewish Dog.

Dr. Martha J. Smith Exposes Anti-Semitism in Europe, Challenges Christians to Fight Back - Times Union

The disturbing persistence of antisemitism in Europe | Katrina Lantos Swett | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

why don't you actually try to read and understand my posts before you leap in and prove my point.

I think anyone reading your posts for years and years realizes that anti-Semitism is very much alive. In addition, the absence of posts from you on a Middle East regarding what Muslims were doing to others in the Middle East also speaks a lot about you.

 

[toastman]

i am almost sure the topic of this thread is about stephen hawking. let's try to stay on topic.

i know it is hard not to respond to completely off topic posts and strictly personal attacks, but we could at least try.

Why do you continue to accuse others of what you are guilty of ? What are you trying to prove ?? IT seems like you're scared of what the pro - Israelis here think of you ...

You remind me of Palestinians; you instigate bullshit and then whine about the evil Zionists verbally attacking you !
Like the Palestinians who constantly instigate violence by lobbing rockets into Israel, then try to play victims of the 'Zionist Entity' when Israel finally decides to strike back ...

 

[Hossfly]

wrong again deach---YOU prove Hoss' point every day

So true, IRosie, and this has gone on for years and years as anyone who has seen Seal operate on other forums can attest.

 

[patrickcaturday]

wrong again deach---YOU prove Hoss' point every day

So true, IRosie, and this has gone on for years and years as anyone who has seen Seal operate on other forums can attest.

Hoss must be letting someone else use his IP and name as this post has nothing about what muslims are doing in countries outside of the I/P board. That Hoss is a one trick pony.

from toastboy

Why do you continue to accuse others of what you are guilty of ? What are you trying to prove ?? IT seems like you're scared of what the pro - Israelis here think of you ...

You remind me of Palestinians; you instigate bullshit and then whine about the evil Zionists verbally attacking you !
Like the Palestinians who constantly instigate violence by lobbing rockets into Israel, then try to play victims of the 'Zionist Entity' when Israel finally decides to strike back ...

Seal, like Dr. Hawking, isn't afraid of anyone least of all Zionists

 

[irosie91]

Stephen Hawking has no reason to be afraid of zionists ----you
are confused----it is jihadists who bring pressure cooker bombs
to media events

 

[toastman]

So true, IRosie, and this has gone on for years and years as anyone who has seen Seal operate on other forums can attest.

Hoss must be letting someone else use his IP and name as this post has nothing about what muslims are doing in countries outside of the I/P board. That Hoss is a one trick pony.

from toastboy

Why do you continue to accuse others of what you are guilty of ? What are you trying to prove ?? IT seems like you're scared of what the pro - Israelis here think of you ...

You remind me of Palestinians; you instigate bullshit and then whine about the evil Zionists verbally attacking you !
Like the Palestinians who constantly instigate violence by lobbing rockets into Israel, then try to play victims of the 'Zionist Entity' when Israel finally decides to strike back ...

Seal, like Dr. Hawking, isn't afraid of anyone least of all Zionists

Where would Seal be without his sock puppet Patrick to come to his defense ??

 

[Hossfly]

So true, IRosie, and this has gone on for years and years as anyone who has seen Seal operate on other forums can attest.

Hoss must be letting someone else use his IP and name as this post has nothing about what muslims are doing in countries outside of the I/P board. That Hoss is a one trick pony.

from toastboy

Why do you continue to accuse others of what you are guilty of ? What are you trying to prove ?? IT seems like you're scared of what the pro - Israelis here think of you ...

You remind me of Palestinians; you instigate bullshit and then whine about the evil Zionists verbally attacking you !
Like the Palestinians who constantly instigate violence by lobbing rockets into Israel, then try to play victims of the 'Zionist Entity' when Israel finally decides to strike back ...

Seal, like Dr. Hawking, isn't afraid of anyone least of all Zionists

What is this all about? Can't make heads nor tails about your post.

 

[MHunterB]

It's rather tiresome, I find, trying to 'discuss' topics with people who are forever strutting about preening themselves on their own imagined 'superiority' - whether it's the pretense of 'being saved' or that of 'superior intelligence', or that of 'more-moral-than-thou'......

Such maneuvering elicits from me the same response as does the 'sqealing and vrooming' from a 'jackrabbit' start and run through a parking lot. I understand all four examples I've given to be making the same statement. To wit,
"Look at MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE - I'm an asshole!"

There is nothing moral about bearing a false witness, which you have just demonstrated.

And what in my post was 'false witness', Loinie? Simply making an accusation is truly meaningless. I couldn't have been 'bearing false witness, because my post was entirely hypothetical. Now your post, otoh, makes an allegation about me without substantiating it in any way......

Incidentally, the response to your sig line is here: Lawrence Davidson

 

[Hossfly]

So true, IRosie, and this has gone on for years and years as anyone who has seen Seal operate on other forums can attest.

Hoss must be letting someone else use his IP and name as this post has nothing about what muslims are doing in countries outside of the I/P board. That Hoss is a one trick pony.

from toastboy

Why do you continue to accuse others of what you are guilty of ? What are you trying to prove ?? IT seems like you're scared of what the pro - Israelis here think of you ...

You remind me of Palestinians; you instigate bullshit and then whine about the evil Zionists verbally attacking you !
Like the Palestinians who constantly instigate violence by lobbing rockets into Israel, then try to play victims of the 'Zionist Entity' when Israel finally decides to strike back ...

Seal, like Dr. Hawking, isn't afraid of anyone least of all Zionists

Now I understand this. Tonto has to step up to the plate and stick up for Kemo Sabe. Do you think that anyone here is really afraid of anti-Semites like Seal? I think anyone reading Seal for a long, long time had him figured out many moons ago. As far as Patrick is concerned, even though he showed up late on a Middle East Discussion board, he too had nothing to say about what was happening in other Middle East countries. It seems that all the anti-Semites want to do is bash Israel and the Jews, and they could care less what is happening elsewhere, even though dead people are lying in the streets because of some car or suicide bomber. If it doesn't involve the Jews, the anti-Semites don't seem to care how many people are harassed and/or killed because of their religion and their houses of worship destroyed

 

[Billo_Really]

And what in my post was 'false witness', Loinie? Simply making an accusation is truly meaningless. I couldn't have been 'bearing false witness, because my post was entirely hypothetical. Now your post, otoh, makes an allegation about me without substantiating it in any way......

"...entirely hypothetical..."?

I suppose it was just a coincidence that:

• you were responding to a post that was responding mine
• my post happened to be commenting on the morality of others (Hawkings)
• your post inferred people who talk about the morality of others, feel they are superior

Yeah, it was all hypothetical!

 

[MHunterB]

So because 'more moral' was on my list, you ASSUMED I was speaking to you?

I was speaking in general. I was stating that I find it irksome when people - ANY people - feel it necessary to impart the supposed information that they are 'saved' OR 'more intelligent' OR 'more moral' than others as part of a 'discussion'.

Did you do that, Loinie? NO. You appear to have made that claim *about Hawking*. But that is not the same as making the claim for oneself.

Incidentally, a comment 'implies': one 'infers' from a comment. And you inferred incorrectly. My comment was that the 'moral' claim was irksome AS WERE TWO OTHER CLAIMS FREQUENTLY MADE.


You still have not explained your statement about 'false witness'. Exactly who do you allege I was bearing false witness about? Are you really trying to suggest I didn't notice the difference between you claiming that Hawking was 'more moral', and you making that claim about yourself?

 

[Lipush]

oy. a lot of jews, israelis, evangelical christians, zionists, and a wide variety of unthinking malcontents. they brought it to the world's attention.

y'all aren't going to be able to stuff that genie back in the bottle.

oy, oy, oy...LOL.

Sorry to disappoint you, but the only ones making a noise out of this, are desparate leftists.

Frankly? Most of us here don't really give a sheeeeeet.

The fact you submitted this post tells all how untrue it is!

You would think that, wouldn't you?

lol

 

[Billo_Really]

Sorry to disappoint you, but the only ones making a noise out of this, are desparate leftists.

Frankly? Most of us here don't really give a sheeeeeet.

The fact you submitted this post tells all how untrue it is!

And the fact she doesn't give a shit, indicates morals are not a character trait she chooses to embrace.

 

[Lipush]

Boycotting just make the people of Israel stronger.

Hatred doesn't bring remorse, hatred brings the people together.

after 2000 years, you silly people should have learened it by now!

LONG LIVE ISRAEL.

 

[Billo_Really]

So because 'more moral' was on my list, you ASSUMED I was speaking to you?

I was speaking in general. I was stating that I find it irksome when people - ANY people - feel it necessary to impart the supposed information that they are 'saved' OR 'more intelligent' OR 'more moral' than others as part of a 'discussion'.

Did you do that, Loinie? NO. You appear to have made that claim *about Hawking*. But that is not the same as making the claim for oneself.

Incidentally, a comment 'implies': one 'infers' from a comment. And you inferred incorrectly. My comment was that the 'moral' claim was irksome AS WERE TWO OTHER CLAIMS FREQUENTLY MADE.


You still have not explained your statement about 'false witness'. Exactly who do you allege I was bearing false witness about? Are you really trying to suggest I didn't notice the difference between you claiming that Hawking was 'more moral', and you making that claim about yourself?

You just happened to comment about morality right out of the blue. It was just a mere coincidence your comment was right after mine. Tell me, what prompted you to make a statement like that at that time?

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

Sorry to disappoint you, but the only ones making a noise out of this, are desparate leftists.

Frankly? Most of us here don't really give a sheeeeeet.

The fact you submitted this post tells all how untrue it is!

Thanks: this will be remembered the next time you make a post - or six! - about how you don't care what others think of you : )) Or your pretense of enjoying being noted as a hypocrite, etc.

Get help for that reading comprehension problem you have! We see with Stephen Hawking that mental intellect does not have to be lost with age. Maybe there is some medication for your problem.

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

Boycotting just make the people of Israel stronger.

Hatred doesn't bring remorse, hatred brings the people together.

after 2000 years, you silly people should have learened it by now!

LONG LIVE ISRAEL.

Boycott makes Israelis hate more, in this instance, we all see that from your posts and all the hateful posts and threats against Stephen Hawking for having a conscience wnd acting in response to his conscience. Hatred is something to behold, alright!