Zone1 Equality is downsizing religions, as parent refuse to downsize their love for an LGBTQ+ or female child.

[Blues Man]

You are doing it again. Stop. As a society we have agreed, or mostly agreed, on laws by which society will be ordered. There is that which is lawful and that which is unlawful. As a people we have agreed that religious laws will not be applied to any person.

A person could absolutely decide that owning a slave is not a sin. It is perfectly okay, perhaps even beneficial. It is still unlawful. Off to the pokey with you. After all, even those who believe that slavery is not a sin, are not compelled to own slaves.

And baking a cake in a business transaction has nothing to do with any religion.

So we as a society can impose a law saying just that

 

[EvilCat Breath]

We have laws supporting religious freedom too. You are talking about a law compelling an individual to do what they will not do voluntarily. This actually is a form of slavery. The same law of compulsion is not applied to the restaurant refusing to serve Christians. The baker is denied even the benefit of equal protection laws.

 

[martybegan]

If something has ALWAYS it existed than it is NORMAL for that thing to exist.

No, it isn't. people have been born without limbs before, but it isn't normal.

 

[GreatestIam]

I could only decide if I committed a sin by killing someone. If someone else is the killer, I could only decide whether the act was unlawful.

You deflect and set limits to your own thinking.

When your God kills or murders when he could just as easily cure, is he sinning?

Is he breaking the law?

Regards
DL

 

[EvilCat Breath]

What business transaction are you compelled to enter into?

Can a baker refuse a child's birthday cake because the baker doesn't like the child's name? Well, yes. As a matter of fact, they can. Don't like it, go to another bakery.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

You deflect and set limits to your own thinking.

When your God kills or murders when he could just as easily cure, is he sinning?

Is he breaking the law?

Regards
DL

None of my business.

 

[martybegan]

Why refuse to make it ? And once again if you are claiming some religious reason for denying service then prove it by producing the evidence that your god says baking a cake for or entering into any business transaction with a person who engages in sinful acts is itself a sin.

Yes we are all in one way or another forced to obey the law if you don't like it then go find a society to live in that has no laws

Because they object to the celebration it is being used for. No evidence required due to the 1st amendment.

argumentum ad absurdum, the last resort of the person unable to continue an argument.

The laws being applied here are being applied wrongly, and unconstitutionally, due to a person's right to free exercise.

You want a "meets all my requirements, fuck your requirements out of hand" solution, and things like this aren't that simple.

 

[martybegan]

Oxymoron.

If something has ALWAYS existed then by definition the existence of that thing is normal.

It's existed, it's not normal.

 

[GreatestIam]

We have laws supporting religious freedom too. You are talking about a law compelling an individual to do what they will not do voluntarily. This actually is a form of slavery. The same law of compulsion is not applied to the restaurant refusing to serve Christians. The baker is denied even the benefit of equal protection laws.

The law does not allow discrimination without a just cause.

You want to publicly hate and discriminate without a just cause.

Just as your inquisitions did, because they could not justify their evil teachings.

You ignore that all laws have a compulsion to discriminate against whoever is breaking it.

Good Samaritan type laws.

Your a hole God can walk by a rape and do nothing.

Our better laws say you have to do as much as you can, safely, to intervene.

Secular law is superior to the laws of your genocidal and loving God.

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

None of my business.

Deflections deflectionms from a Moral Coward.

Then why promote the prick?

Why are LGBTQ+ women homophobes and the misogynous business?

Regards
DL

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The law does not allow discrimination without a just cause.

You want to publicly hate and discriminate without a just cause.

Just as your inquisitions did, because they could not justify their evil teachings.

You ignore that all laws have a compulsion to discriminate against whoever is breaking it.

Good Samaritan type laws.

Your a hole God can walk by a rape and do nothing.

Our better laws say you have to do as much as you can, safely, to intervene.

Secular law is superior to the laws of your genocidal and loving God.

Regards
DL

Don't care.

 

[WinterBorn]

The mistake people make is in thinking " I love my gay son" also means "I support my gay son showing a 7 year old how to use a Buttplug."

I know quite a few gays and lesbians. They are my friends and even my family.

I have known some wild and crazy men who proudly call themselves "fags". I have known others who live in fear of being "outted".

But I have never known a single gay man or lesbian who would show a 7 year old how to use a butt plug. I have known plenty who were generous and kind to their friends children. They never forgot a birthday and always brought an Xmas present. But not one would show them how to use a butt plug.

 

[WinterBorn]

You'd rather take it in the ass as opposed to discussing the word of Almighty God?

Good for you, but I don't think most of us would agree.

So you think every family gathering that includes homosexuals involves anal sex? That is truly sad.

 

[GreatestIam]

Don't care.

I know, Satan.

Say Heil to your master for me.

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

But I have never known a single gay man or lesbian who would show a 7 year old how to use a butt plug.

His own fears are ruling his biases to where he would hate his own LGBTQ+ child and downgrade equality standard for women.

Many are low on the love scale and want to fill the gap with the evils of their imaginary God of the Gaps.

Regards
DL

 

[ding]

His own fears are ruling his biases to where he would hate his own LGBTQ+ child and downgrade equality standard for women.

Many are low on the love scale and want to fill the gap with the evils of their imaginary God of the Gaps.

Regards
DL

You must have some skin in the game.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

I know quite a few gays and lesbians. They are my friends and even my family.

I have known some wild and crazy men who proudly call themselves "fags". I have known others who live in fear of being "outted".

But I have never known a single gay man or lesbian who would show a 7 year old how to use a butt plug. I have known plenty who were generous and kind to their friends children. They never forgot a birthday and always brought an Xmas present. But not one would show them how to use a butt plug.

You have never known one that would admit to you that they would show a 7 year old how to use a butt plug.

Someone is bringing sex toys and porn featuring children to schools. Who? Throw them out, all of them.

 

[WinterBorn]

You have never known one that would admit to you that they would show a 7 year old how to use a butt plug.

Someone is bringing sex toys and porn featuring children to schools. Who? Throw them out, all of them.

I would happily see them all thrown out and even prosecuted.

 

[Blues Man]

No, it isn't. people have been born without limbs before, but it isn't normal.

It is normal for a percentage of the human population to be born with birth defects

 

[Blues Man]

Because they object to the celebration it is being used for. No evidence required due to the 1st amendment.

argumentum ad absurdum, the last resort of the person unable to continue an argument.

The laws being applied here are being applied wrongly, and unconstitutionally, due to a person's right to free exercise.

You want a "meets all my requirements, fuck your requirements out of hand" solution, and things like this aren't that simple.

So what? they are not part of the celebration. They won't be there.

And you have yet to show me where in any bible that it says "Thou shalt not engage in business transactions with sinners ( especially queers)"

If it's not part of the religion's actual doctrine then it is not part of the free exercise of that religion.