Endless Palestinian Demands

[montelatici]

So how about you do what the other ISLAMONAZI PROPAGANDIST refuses to do and show exactly what the Israeli government is doing to Israeli Christians. Or will you post some crap from a pro Palestinian or "Palestinian source" that you believe because it matches your POV.

Let's see, the U.S. Department of State, one of the most pro-Israel organizations that are not completely Israeli or Zionist makes some interesting points.

Zionist Propaganda 1: Palestinian Muslims and Christians don't get along and Palestinian Christians are enamored with Jewish rule.


U.S. Department of State:

"Palestinian Christians and Muslims generally shared good relations, identifying more closely on ethnic and political similarities than religion. However, tensions were substantial between Jews and Palestinian Christians and Muslims, largely as a result of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and Israel’s control of access to sites holy to Christians and Muslims. "

Zionist Propaganda 2: "Israel does not discriminate against Christians and Muslims"

U.S. Department of State:

"Arab Christian leaders said that Israeli security authorities obstructed access to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem for Palestinian Christian residents of the West Bank, including clergy, which significantly reduced their ability to enter Jerusalem. Some Christian leaders said that Israeli authorities gave preferential treatment to Jews celebrating Passover and to international visitors making pilgrimages when the authorities enacted restrictions that impeded the activities of local Christians celebrating Easter. Jerusalem Christians had to pass through four police checkpoints before reaching the Church of the Holy Sepulchre; according to Christian advocates, pepper spray was used indiscriminately at the various checkpoints. On Good Friday, the Israeli police temporarily blocked the Latin Patriarch from entering the Church of the Holy Sepulchre and pushed him, to make way for pilgrims, setting off a small fight before the procession was allowed to continue, according to a joint report by the Ecumenical Accompaniment Programme in Palestine and Israel and the Jerusalem Inter-Church Centre. During other holy days, Christian leaders also stated that the police did not always honor requests to provide security escorts for religious processions, which left them vulnerable to harassment in the Old City from non-Christians.

During the year Israeli authorities severely limited the access of Palestinians to Rachel’s Tomb, a Bethlehem shrine holy to Jews, Christians, and Muslims under Israeli jurisdiction in Area C, but allowed relatively unimpeded access to Jewish visitors.

During the year the IDF limited access to the Ibrahimi Mosque/Tomb of the Patriarchs in Hebron, a holy site revered by Jews, Christians, and Muslims as the tomb of Abraham. The IDF restricted Muslim access to the site for 10 nonconsecutive days..."

So how long has Jerusalem been in Israel then, or Bethlehem and Hebron

Your ISLAMONAZI posts are so easy to counter when you have to LIE to get them noticed.

I posted a report by the United States Department of State. Are they Islamonazis now too?

 

[Phoenall]

Let's see, the U.S. Department of State, one of the most pro-Israel organizations that are not completely Israeli or Zionist makes some interesting points.

Zionist Propaganda 1: Palestinian Muslims and Christians don't get along and Palestinian Christians are enamored with Jewish rule.


U.S. Department of State:

"Palestinian Christians and Muslims generally shared good relations, identifying more closely on ethnic and political similarities than religion. However, tensions were substantial between Jews and Palestinian Christians and Muslims, largely as a result of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and Israel’s control of access to sites holy to Christians and Muslims. "

Zionist Propaganda 2: "Israel does not discriminate against Christians and Muslims"

U.S. Department of State:

"Arab Christian leaders said that Israeli security authorities obstructed access to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem for Palestinian Christian residents of the West Bank, including clergy, which significantly reduced their ability to enter Jerusalem. Some Christian leaders said that Israeli authorities gave preferential treatment to Jews celebrating Passover and to international visitors making pilgrimages when the authorities enacted restrictions that impeded the activities of local Christians celebrating Easter. Jerusalem Christians had to pass through four police checkpoints before reaching the Church of the Holy Sepulchre; according to Christian advocates, pepper spray was used indiscriminately at the various checkpoints. On Good Friday, the Israeli police temporarily blocked the Latin Patriarch from entering the Church of the Holy Sepulchre and pushed him, to make way for pilgrims, setting off a small fight before the procession was allowed to continue, according to a joint report by the Ecumenical Accompaniment Programme in Palestine and Israel and the Jerusalem Inter-Church Centre. During other holy days, Christian leaders also stated that the police did not always honor requests to provide security escorts for religious processions, which left them vulnerable to harassment in the Old City from non-Christians.

During the year Israeli authorities severely limited the access of Palestinians to Rachel’s Tomb, a Bethlehem shrine holy to Jews, Christians, and Muslims under Israeli jurisdiction in Area C, but allowed relatively unimpeded access to Jewish visitors.

During the year the IDF limited access to the Ibrahimi Mosque/Tomb of the Patriarchs in Hebron, a holy site revered by Jews, Christians, and Muslims as the tomb of Abraham. The IDF restricted Muslim access to the site for 10 nonconsecutive days..."

So how long has Jerusalem been in Israel then, or Bethlehem and Hebron

Your ISLAMONAZI posts are so easy to counter when you have to LIE to get them noticed.

I posted a report by the United States Department of State. Are they Islamonazis now too?

I never said that the US state department were ISLAMONAZI I said thet yiu and yiur posts are.

Now how about you answer the questions so we can all see how incredibly you are.


So how long has Jerusalem been in Israel then, or Bethlehem and Hebron

 

[montelatici]

So how long has Jerusalem been in Israel then, or Bethlehem and Hebron

Your ISLAMONAZI posts are so easy to counter when you have to LIE to get them noticed.

I posted a report by the United States Department of State. Are they Islamonazis now too?

I never said that the US state department were ISLAMONAZI I said thet yiu and yiur posts are.

Now how about you answer the questions so we can all see how incredibly you are.


So how long has Jerusalem been in Israel then, or Bethlehem and Hebron

Get a grip.

 

[Roudy]

Why would Christian Palestinians agree to vacate their holy places?

But, you must feel such a relief to be able to demonize and insult Muslims with similarly minded racist Americans. In the UK, where you claim to live and in the EU the kind of abusive things you say is called "hate speech" and you would could be prosecuted. Note: Similar abuse towards Jews could also be prosecuted.

Yes, in Europe, those Muslims have such sweet thoughts about the Jews.

'Hitler should have killed all Jews,' teens in Holland say | The Times of Israel

Muslims say shit like this all the time.

 

[Roudy]

Let's see, the U.S. Department of State, one of the most pro-Israel organizations that are not completely Israeli or Zionist makes some interesting points.

Zionist Propaganda 1: Palestinian Muslims and Christians don't get along and Palestinian Christians are enamored with Jewish rule.


U.S. Department of State:

"Palestinian Christians and Muslims generally shared good relations, identifying more closely on ethnic and political similarities than religion. However, tensions were substantial between Jews and Palestinian Christians and Muslims, largely as a result of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and Israel’s control of access to sites holy to Christians and Muslims. "

Zionist Propaganda 2: "Israel does not discriminate against Christians and Muslims"

U.S. Department of State:

"Arab Christian leaders said that Israeli security authorities obstructed access to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem for Palestinian Christian residents of the West Bank, including clergy, which significantly reduced their ability to enter Jerusalem. Some Christian leaders said that Israeli authorities gave preferential treatment to Jews celebrating Passover and to international visitors making pilgrimages when the authorities enacted restrictions that impeded the activities of local Christians celebrating Easter. Jerusalem Christians had to pass through four police checkpoints before reaching the Church of the Holy Sepulchre; according to Christian advocates, pepper spray was used indiscriminately at the various checkpoints. On Good Friday, the Israeli police temporarily blocked the Latin Patriarch from entering the Church of the Holy Sepulchre and pushed him, to make way for pilgrims, setting off a small fight before the procession was allowed to continue, according to a joint report by the Ecumenical Accompaniment Programme in Palestine and Israel and the Jerusalem Inter-Church Centre. During other holy days, Christian leaders also stated that the police did not always honor requests to provide security escorts for religious processions, which left them vulnerable to harassment in the Old City from non-Christians.

During the year Israeli authorities severely limited the access of Palestinians to Rachel’s Tomb, a Bethlehem shrine holy to Jews, Christians, and Muslims under Israeli jurisdiction in Area C, but allowed relatively unimpeded access to Jewish visitors.

During the year the IDF limited access to the Ibrahimi Mosque/Tomb of the Patriarchs in Hebron, a holy site revered by Jews, Christians, and Muslims as the tomb of Abraham. The IDF restricted Muslim access to the site for 10 nonconsecutive days..."

So how long has Jerusalem been in Israel then, or Bethlehem and Hebron

Your ISLAMONAZI posts are so easy to counter when you have to LIE to get them noticed.

I posted a report by the United States Department of State. Are they Islamonazis now too?

Since you are citing the "US State dept" perhaps you should also remember that they consider Hamas and many Palestinian groups as terrorists. Ha ha ha funny as hell.

 

[montelatici]

So how long has Jerusalem been in Israel then, or Bethlehem and Hebron

Your ISLAMONAZI posts are so easy to counter when you have to LIE to get them noticed.

I posted a report by the United States Department of State. Are they Islamonazis now too?

Since you are citing the "US State dept" perhaps you should also remember that they consider Hamas and many Palestinian groups as terrorists. Ha ha ha funny as hell.

What is funny about it? I don't get the joke.

 

[Roudy]

That's Sally's MO. She try's to hijack every thread in order to derail any conversation regarding Israeli atrocities.

So how about you do what the other ISLAMONAZI PROPAGANDIST refuses to do and show exactly what the Israeli government is doing to Israeli Christians. Or will you post some crap from a pro Palestinian or "Palestinian source" that you believe because it matches your POV.

Let's see, the U.S. Department of State, one of the most pro-Israel organizations that are not completely Israeli or Zionist makes some interesting points.

Zionist Propaganda 1: Palestinian Muslims and Christians don't get along and Palestinian Christians are enamored with Jewish rule.


U.S. Department of State:

"Palestinian Christians and Muslims generally shared good relations, identifying more closely on ethnic and political similarities than religion. However, tensions were substantial between Jews and Palestinian Christians and Muslims, largely as a result of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and Israel’s control of access to sites holy to Christians and Muslims. "

Zionist Propaganda 2: "Israel does not discriminate against Christians and Muslims"

U.S. Department of State:

"Arab Christian leaders said that Israeli security authorities obstructed access to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem for Palestinian Christian residents of the West Bank, including clergy, which significantly reduced their ability to enter Jerusalem. Some Christian leaders said that Israeli authorities gave preferential treatment to Jews celebrating Passover and to international visitors making pilgrimages when the authorities enacted restrictions that impeded the activities of local Christians celebrating Easter. Jerusalem Christians had to pass through four police checkpoints before reaching the Church of the Holy Sepulchre; according to Christian advocates, pepper spray was used indiscriminately at the various checkpoints. On Good Friday, the Israeli police temporarily blocked the Latin Patriarch from entering the Church of the Holy Sepulchre and pushed him, to make way for pilgrims, setting off a small fight before the procession was allowed to continue, according to a joint report by the Ecumenical Accompaniment Programme in Palestine and Israel and the Jerusalem Inter-Church Centre. During other holy days, Christian leaders also stated that the police did not always honor requests to provide security escorts for religious processions, which left them vulnerable to harassment in the Old City from non-Christians.

During the year Israeli authorities severely limited the access of Palestinians to Rachel’s Tomb, a Bethlehem shrine holy to Jews, Christians, and Muslims under Israeli jurisdiction in Area C, but allowed relatively unimpeded access to Jewish visitors.

During the year the IDF limited access to the Ibrahimi Mosque/Tomb of the Patriarchs in Hebron, a holy site revered by Jews, Christians, and Muslims as the tomb of Abraham. The IDF restricted Muslim access to the site for 10 nonconsecutive days..."

Yeah that's why Sherri number 3 doesn't have a link to its quotes' it's probably from a Muslim propaganda site.

 

[Roudy]

I posted a report by the United States Department of State. Are they Islamonazis now too?

Since you are citing the "US State dept" perhaps you should also remember that they consider Hamas and many Palestinian groups as terrorists. Ha ha ha funny as hell.

What is funny about it? I don't get the joke.

Jokes on you, you are supposedly quoting a US govt. organization that considers the entity governing Gaza as terrorist. Everything you say is either a joke or a lie.

 

[montelatici]

Since you are citing the "US State dept" perhaps you should also remember that they consider Hamas and many Palestinian groups as terrorists. Ha ha ha funny as hell.

What is funny about it? I don't get the joke.

Jokes on you, you are supposedly quoting a US govt. organization that considers the entity governing Gaza as terrorist. Everything you say is either a joke or a lie.

I only post facts and back them up with links to neutral sites. I never lie, you on the other hand do nothing but parrot propaganda. I did not "supposedly" quote the United States Department of State, I quoted it directly and provided a link to their site. For your information, the United State Department of State is equivalent to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in other countries. And, if you find the facts that I post "funny" then you are more of a simpleton than your prose leads me to believe.

 

[MJB12741]

Facts! yes, let us deal with facts. Just curious, what are some of the Palestinian contributions to peace, mankind & civilization we can support the Palestinians for?

What is funny about it? I don't get the joke.

Jokes on you, you are supposedly quoting a US govt. organization that considers the entity governing Gaza as terrorist. Everything you say is either a joke or a lie.

I only post facts and back them up with links to neutral sites. I never lie, you on the other hand do nothing but parrot propaganda. I did not "supposedly" quote the United States Department of State, I quoted it directly and provided a link to their site. For your information, the United State Department of State is equivalent to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in other countries. And, if you find the facts that I post "funny" then you are more of a simpleton than your prose leads me to believe.

 

[montelatici]

Facts! yes, let us deal with facts. Just curious, what are some of the Palestinian contributions to peace, mankind & civilization we can support the Palestinians for?

Jokes on you, you are supposedly quoting a US govt. organization that considers the entity governing Gaza as terrorist. Everything you say is either a joke or a lie.

I only post facts and back them up with links to neutral sites. I never lie, you on the other hand do nothing but parrot propaganda. I did not "supposedly" quote the United States Department of State, I quoted it directly and provided a link to their site. For your information, the United State Department of State is equivalent to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in other countries. And, if you find the facts that I post "funny" then you are more of a simpleton than your prose leads me to believe.

Now, what would Palestinian "contributions to peace, mankind & civilization" have to do with a human beings right to freedom from oppression? I don't understand racists of your ilk, it's like you missed 2 centuries of education and culture.

The slavers of the 18th and 19th century were asking the same thing when they were rationalizing the enslavement of other human beings.

 

[Hossfly]

Facts! yes, let us deal with facts. Just curious, what are some of the Palestinian contributions to peace, mankind & civilization we can support the Palestinians for?

I only post facts and back them up with links to neutral sites. I never lie, you on the other hand do nothing but parrot propaganda. I did not "supposedly" quote the United States Department of State, I quoted it directly and provided a link to their site. For your information, the United State Department of State is equivalent to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in other countries. And, if you find the facts that I post "funny" then you are more of a simpleton than your prose leads me to believe.

Now, what would Palestinian "contributions to peace, mankind & civilization" have to do with a human beings right to freedom from oppression? I don't understand racists of your ilk, it's like you missed 2 centuries of education and culture.

The slavers of the 18th and 19th century were asking the same thing when they were rationalizing the enslavement of other human beings.

To use your spiel, are you trying to say the Palestinians have never contributed to Peace, Mankind and Civilization? And they want to join the community of civilized nations? Whatever for?

 

[Roudy]

What is funny about it? I don't get the joke.

Jokes on you, you are supposedly quoting a US govt. organization that considers the entity governing Gaza as terrorist. Everything you say is either a joke or a lie.

I only post facts and back them up with links to neutral sites. I never lie, you on the other hand do nothing but parrot propaganda. I did not "supposedly" quote the United States Department of State, I quoted it directly and provided a link to their site. For your information, the United State Department of State is equivalent to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in other countries. And, if you find the facts that I post "funny" then you are more of a simpleton than your prose leads me to believe.

Ha ha ha. That was funny and delusional. Actually, FYI the entire board considers you a terrorist worshiper and false propagandist. With exception of other terrorist ass kissers like yourself that is. Your futile agenda is quite transparent and entertaining at the same time.

You spend hours and hours posting worthless pro Islamist propaganda and demonizing Jews and Israel. Do you really think anybody is falling for your idiotic lie that the Christian world is concerned about "Jewish oppression and persecution of Christians"? Or perhaps it's intolerant, violent, terroristic, Muslims who have zero respect for other religions and the sanctity of life?

I don't know what planet you live on, but it's not Earth. But it doesn't surprise me that you are so disconnected with reality, most Pali terrorist supporters are.

 

[montelatici]

Jokes on you, you are supposedly quoting a US govt. organization that considers the entity governing Gaza as terrorist. Everything you say is either a joke or a lie.

I only post facts and back them up with links to neutral sites. I never lie, you on the other hand do nothing but parrot propaganda. I did not "supposedly" quote the United States Department of State, I quoted it directly and provided a link to their site. For your information, the United State Department of State is equivalent to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in other countries. And, if you find the facts that I post "funny" then you are more of a simpleton than your prose leads me to believe.

Ha ha ha. That was funny and delusional. Actually, FYI the entire board considers you a terrorist worshiper and false propagandist. With exception of other terrorist ass kissers like yourself that is. Your futile agenda is quite transparent and entertaining at the same time.

You spend hours and hours posting worthless pro Islamist propaganda and demonizing Jews and Israel. Do you really think anybody is falling for your idiotic lie that the Christian world is concerned about "Jewish oppression and persecution of Christians"? Or perhaps it's intolerant, violent, terroristic, Muslims who have zero respect for other religions and the sanctity of life?

I don't know what planet you live on, but it's not Earth. But it doesn't surprise me that you are so disconnected with reality, most Pali terrorist supporters are.

Have you thought about getting some professional help?

 

[Sally]

I only post facts and back them up with links to neutral sites. I never lie, you on the other hand do nothing but parrot propaganda. I did not "supposedly" quote the United States Department of State, I quoted it directly and provided a link to their site. For your information, the United State Department of State is equivalent to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in other countries. And, if you find the facts that I post "funny" then you are more of a simpleton than your prose leads me to believe.

Ha ha ha. That was funny and delusional. Actually, FYI the entire board considers you a terrorist worshiper and false propagandist. With exception of other terrorist ass kissers like yourself that is. Your futile agenda is quite transparent and entertaining at the same time.

You spend hours and hours posting worthless pro Islamist propaganda and demonizing Jews and Israel. Do you really think anybody is falling for your idiotic lie that the Christian world is concerned about "Jewish oppression and persecution of Christians"? Or perhaps it's intolerant, violent, terroristic, Muslims who have zero respect for other religions and the sanctity of life?

I don't know what planet you live on, but it's not Earth. But it doesn't surprise me that you are so disconnected with reality, most Pali terrorist supporters are.

Have you thought about getting some professional help?

Have you ever thought about getting that help. Sitting in a boiler room all day dissing Israel in forums around the Internet certainly can't be mentally healthy for anyone.

 

[aris2chat]

Palestine?
Independent state? Culture? Unique contribution to religion? Library of literature? Contribution to knowledge, science, medicine, building, math? Language? Law? Discovery or exploration? Economy or trade?
Not every country, district or sanjuk have a right to statehood. What of the slavery and oppression they inflict on their own kind or what they have done to their hosts and neighbors in the last 50 yrs? The cost to the world to absorb them, especially in the much of the muslim world would have been far less than the cost of wars and global charity to keep them as they are or perpetuate hope for their "demands". They should be contributing to society instead of draining it.
They did not have to leave, they could have taken settlement for lost property, they could have even had a state years ago if they had been willing to make some compromise.
The oppression they suffer is of arab making or their own. When Israel took control of gaza and WB the lot of the palestinians not in refugee camps improved considerably. Jordan and Egypt did little for them. Jordan tried to make them citizens so they could better provide for them, but palestinians attack them.
They won't even renounce violence or recognize Israel's right to exist. What have they don't to deserve the right to their own state? More than half of the called palestinians at the end of the mandate had been immigrated to the mandate and required only to have been there for two years. Most of those who were there pre-mandate were not registered land owns or tax payers. They worked the land for other people. They did no mandatory military service. They did not even recognize themselves as "palestinians" but as arab or syrian.
The mandate was made of many sanjuks, it was not a separate region with it's own government or sub-government. It had no supportable economy. Until the mandate it was under populated and under developed.
Jordan became an arab state. The UN offered the rest of the arabs their own state alongside Israel, but they refused. What gives them more right to their own state than a group like the Kurds?
What gives them more rights than dozens of tribes that had language, historical and cultural distinctions that were part of the Ottoman empire when it fell?
What makes the "palestinians" unique enough to independence and not just arabs that could be part of any nations in the region? Most were not born in the mandate or less than one or two generations from immigrants to the mandate. When were they ever a unique singular group of distinct people before the mandate?
What are they willing to do or give up in a peace agreement to have their own state? How are they going to support a state, and their people, if they had one?
Why do they deserve the right to stand before the UN as their own state? What contribution to the world will they make?

 

[montelatici]

Palestine?
Independent state? Culture? Unique contribution to religion? Library of literature? Contribution to knowledge, science, medicine, building, math? Language? Law? Discovery or exploration? Economy or trade?
Not every country, district or sanjuk have a right to statehood. What of the slavery and oppression they inflict on their own kind or what they have done to their hosts and neighbors in the last 50 yrs? The cost to the world to absorb them, especially in the much of the muslim world would have been far less than the cost of wars and global charity to keep them as they are or perpetuate hope for their "demands". They should be contributing to society instead of draining it.
They did not have to leave, they could have taken settlement for lost property, they could have even had a state years ago if they had been willing to make some compromise.
The oppression they suffer is of arab making or their own. When Israel took control of gaza and WB the lot of the palestinians not in refugee camps improved considerably. Jordan and Egypt did little for them. Jordan tried to make them citizens so they could better provide for them, but palestinians attack them.
They won't even renounce violence or recognize Israel's right to exist. What have they don't to deserve the right to their own state? More than half of the called palestinians at the end of the mandate had been immigrated to the mandate and required only to have been there for two years. Most of those who were there pre-mandate were not registered land owns or tax payers. They worked the land for other people. They did no mandatory military service. They did not even recognize themselves as "palestinians" but as arab or syrian.
The mandate was made of many sanjuks, it was not a separate region with it's own government or sub-government. It had no supportable economy. Until the mandate it was under populated and under developed.
Jordan became an arab state. The UN offered the rest of the arabs their own state alongside Israel, but they refused. What gives them more right to their own state than a group like the Kurds?
What gives them more rights than dozens of tribes that had language, historical and cultural distinctions that were part of the Ottoman empire when it fell?
What makes the "palestinians" unique enough to independence and not just arabs that could be part of any nations in the region? Most were not born in the mandate or less than one or two generations from immigrants to the mandate. When were they ever a unique singular group of distinct people before the mandate?
What are they willing to do or give up in a peace agreement to have their own state? How are they going to support a state, and their people, if they had one?
Why do they deserve the right to stand before the UN as their own state? What contribution to the world will they make?

Maybe you should work with the other psychopath and figure out which biological weapon can eliminate these pesky people that are so inherently bad they don't deserve to live.

 

[Sally]

Palestine?
Independent state? Culture? Unique contribution to religion? Library of literature? Contribution to knowledge, science, medicine, building, math? Language? Law? Discovery or exploration? Economy or trade?
Not every country, district or sanjuk have a right to statehood. What of the slavery and oppression they inflict on their own kind or what they have done to their hosts and neighbors in the last 50 yrs? The cost to the world to absorb them, especially in the much of the muslim world would have been far less than the cost of wars and global charity to keep them as they are or perpetuate hope for their "demands". They should be contributing to society instead of draining it.
They did not have to leave, they could have taken settlement for lost property, they could have even had a state years ago if they had been willing to make some compromise.
The oppression they suffer is of arab making or their own. When Israel took control of gaza and WB the lot of the palestinians not in refugee camps improved considerably. Jordan and Egypt did little for them. Jordan tried to make them citizens so they could better provide for them, but palestinians attack them.
They won't even renounce violence or recognize Israel's right to exist. What have they don't to deserve the right to their own state? More than half of the called palestinians at the end of the mandate had been immigrated to the mandate and required only to have been there for two years. Most of those who were there pre-mandate were not registered land owns or tax payers. They worked the land for other people. They did no mandatory military service. They did not even recognize themselves as "palestinians" but as arab or syrian.
The mandate was made of many sanjuks, it was not a separate region with it's own government or sub-government. It had no supportable economy. Until the mandate it was under populated and under developed.
Jordan became an arab state. The UN offered the rest of the arabs their own state alongside Israel, but they refused. What gives them more right to their own state than a group like the Kurds?
What gives them more rights than dozens of tribes that had language, historical and cultural distinctions that were part of the Ottoman empire when it fell?
What makes the "palestinians" unique enough to independence and not just arabs that could be part of any nations in the region? Most were not born in the mandate or less than one or two generations from immigrants to the mandate. When were they ever a unique singular group of distinct people before the mandate?
What are they willing to do or give up in a peace agreement to have their own state? How are they going to support a state, and their people, if they had one?
Why do they deserve the right to stand before the UN as their own state? What contribution to the world will they make?

Maybe you should work with the other psychopath and figure out which biological weapon can eliminate these pesky people that are so inherently bad they don't deserve to live.

Strange how a psychopath calls Aris a psychopath when Aris knows so much more than this boiler room gal/guy. However, I am sure all the other psychopaths in the boiler room would agree with this gal/guy.

 

[montelatici]

Palestine?
Independent state? Culture? Unique contribution to religion? Library of literature? Contribution to knowledge, science, medicine, building, math? Language? Law? Discovery or exploration? Economy or trade?
Not every country, district or sanjuk have a right to statehood. What of the slavery and oppression they inflict on their own kind or what they have done to their hosts and neighbors in the last 50 yrs? The cost to the world to absorb them, especially in the much of the muslim world would have been far less than the cost of wars and global charity to keep them as they are or perpetuate hope for their "demands". They should be contributing to society instead of draining it.
They did not have to leave, they could have taken settlement for lost property, they could have even had a state years ago if they had been willing to make some compromise.
The oppression they suffer is of arab making or their own. When Israel took control of gaza and WB the lot of the palestinians not in refugee camps improved considerably. Jordan and Egypt did little for them. Jordan tried to make them citizens so they could better provide for them, but palestinians attack them.
They won't even renounce violence or recognize Israel's right to exist. What have they don't to deserve the right to their own state? More than half of the called palestinians at the end of the mandate had been immigrated to the mandate and required only to have been there for two years. Most of those who were there pre-mandate were not registered land owns or tax payers. They worked the land for other people. They did no mandatory military service. They did not even recognize themselves as "palestinians" but as arab or syrian.
The mandate was made of many sanjuks, it was not a separate region with it's own government or sub-government. It had no supportable economy. Until the mandate it was under populated and under developed.
Jordan became an arab state. The UN offered the rest of the arabs their own state alongside Israel, but they refused. What gives them more right to their own state than a group like the Kurds?
What gives them more rights than dozens of tribes that had language, historical and cultural distinctions that were part of the Ottoman empire when it fell?
What makes the "palestinians" unique enough to independence and not just arabs that could be part of any nations in the region? Most were not born in the mandate or less than one or two generations from immigrants to the mandate. When were they ever a unique singular group of distinct people before the mandate?
What are they willing to do or give up in a peace agreement to have their own state? How are they going to support a state, and their people, if they had one?
Why do they deserve the right to stand before the UN as their own state? What contribution to the world will they make?

Maybe you should work with the other psychopath and figure out which biological weapon can eliminate these pesky people that are so inherently bad they don't deserve to live.

Strange how a psychopath calls Aris a psychopath when Aris knows so much more than this boiler room gal/guy. However, I am sure all the other psychopaths in the boiler room would agree with this gal/guy.

Do you know what the term psychopath means? I think not. When you propose to murder or otherwise eliminate millions of people through the use of biological weapons or propose that millions of people continue to be oppressed because they do not meet one's expectations in terms of contributions to culture, society, science etc. That's a psychopath.

Being an evenhanded observer of a conflict that would like to see an equitable resolution to a long standing conflict, is not psychopathic.

 

[Roudy]

I only post facts and back them up with links to neutral sites. I never lie, you on the other hand do nothing but parrot propaganda. I did not "supposedly" quote the United States Department of State, I quoted it directly and provided a link to their site. For your information, the United State Department of State is equivalent to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in other countries. And, if you find the facts that I post "funny" then you are more of a simpleton than your prose leads me to believe.

Ha ha ha. That was funny and delusional. Actually, FYI the entire board considers you a terrorist worshiper and false propagandist. With exception of other terrorist ass kissers like yourself that is. Your futile agenda is quite transparent and entertaining at the same time.

You spend hours and hours posting worthless pro Islamist propaganda and demonizing Jews and Israel. Do you really think anybody is falling for your idiotic lie that the Christian world is concerned about "Jewish oppression and persecution of Christians"? Or perhaps it's intolerant, violent, terroristic, Muslims who have zero respect for other religions and the sanctity of life?

I don't know what planet you live on, but it's not Earth. But it doesn't surprise me that you are so disconnected with reality, most Pali terrorist supporters are.

Have you thought about getting some professional help?

Hee hee hee. You crack me up. Your entire life is spreading lies about Israel and Jews and you think others need help.

What color would you like your suicide belt in, Islam green, or crescent moon white?