End of times?

[ninja007]

the Bible was written by God via the Holy Spirit. The Bible is 100% truth.

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the only script written by the Almighty were on stone tablets that are destroyed ... and so only a myth exists as the abrahamic bibles.

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lol, no.

 

[Penelope]

Funny that everything you said is prophesied. The Bible is to be taken literally, otherwise it would be nothing more than human understanding through every individual's imaginings. When you read, "I am the way....." take it literally. It means what it says.

The Bible does indeed include prophesy. Over 1/4 of the book is prophesy and the future was predicted over 10,000 times.
Christ death on the cross was prophesied a thousand years before the Assyrians and Persians started using the method to execute people.

What I want is peace on earth. Until Christ returns to defend Israel against the invading armies, nukes will be going off like cherry bombs. Our Muslim president almost insists on letting Iran become a Nuclear powerhouse. He has removed leaders that had a truce with Israel. He has retuned the terrorists to their homes to plot and plan against us and Israel again.

Some things the Bible says will happen during the end times:

Israel will become a Nation in a day.
They'll speak Hebrew again.
They'll be surrounded by enemies sworn to annihilate them for good.
Europe will unite.
A world governing power.
All eyes will be on Israel.
All nations will turn against Israel.
^When you see these things come to pass, Christ's hand is on the door. Here's more of what to expect:

Israel will be invaded by Russia and their Arab allies for spoils. The countries are named so we don't have to guess ahead of time who they are.
Beheadings will be on the rise.
Israel will have a choice, Samson them all, or a forced peace treaty giving away Israel land. They'll sign.
For 7 years radio active material will be flagged in Israel, not to be touched but reported, so protected personnel can dispatch it.
Nukes will make our water undrinkable, food inedible. Radiation penetrating the wood used for fires, and food.
Meteor strikes, nuke winter, sun blocked out. earth tilted on it axis. If you really care about this earth, reign in the politicians. Composting isn't going to cut it. Very few humans live through this next war. All life would perish if left up to us, and God is going to leave it up to us until the last minute.

When we remove Him, we remove His restraint. It goes with Him.
We are about to enter into a world war. We are vying for position right now.
The Bible tells us more about this time, the time after Israel becomes a Nation, than any other time in the history of mankind. We need to start listening. We are living prophesy and ignoring the warnings.

I am aware of what the Bible says and it was wrote by men, some were in my opinion on meds, senile or on mushrooms , and I say de nuke every country , starting with Israel.

the Bible was written by God via the Holy Spirit. The Bible is 100% truth.

Sure it is if you choose to believe its historical , but that does not make it so , some of the battles may be similar, but it was wrote by men. We can say the Holy Spirit is telling me to write this note, which it is. Why do the maj of Jews know their OT is mainly oral tradition and then Christians come along and say its written by God. What I just wrote then was inspired by the HS and is 100% truth.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Pene, the Bible was authored by God, scribed by men, under the scrutiny of the Holy Spirit. There are several ways to prove that. Embedded code that the writers had no awareness of. Prophecy that man can't replicate. Archeology that proves what the books say as true. History, that proves it's validity.

The Jews have lost their identity more than once. Everything they owned of value, was taken or destroyed when they were enslaved. But it isn't all oral. One of the oldest writings we have found is attributed to Job. Jews had Moses' laws in the arc of the covenant before the Temple was looted. There were copies made before the originals were removed. The Dead Sea Scrolls for one.
Christ told us every word of the OT was from God. That's how Christians know. God gave the Jews the criteria to tell if it was God breathed or man breathed. If it was a prophet of God, his accuracy rate would be 100%.
If you are being led by the Holy Spirit, then write like Him. Every letter, noun, verb, Proper name, number of letters in your sentences all have to be multiples of or divided evenly by 7. Master that and I'll give you the other 35 rules to write by while you are under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. And be sure to include a specific prediction or two, so we can test your claim........

 

[ImGoing2Heaven]

Jesus returned in the late 1800s.
The end MUST be near, duh

 

[The Irish Ram]

Oh Lord.........

 

[The Irish Ram]

Jesus returned in the late 1800s.
The end MUST be near, duh

Huh, you know that when He returns He ushers in 1,000 years of peace right? Let's see if He returned in the late 1800's.
Can I go visit Him in the rebuilt Jewish Temple? Is the world at peace? Didn't the whole world go to war in the 1900's?
And He must have put Satan on an awfully long chain, because death and destruction still seem to be the norm........

 

[BreezeWood]

Huh, you know that when He returns He ushers in 1,000 years of peace right?

He ushers in ...


you're a sad case Ram, the Triumph of Good over Evil is required of everyone by all the commiserate religions and has nothing to do with your written books deluded misapprehensions concerning the future posterity for humanity.

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[Avatar4321]

Sorry all the links don't show ^^^ but its not worth the trouble to post more.

and yet your own links show how you are wrong and you fail to notice. That's why conversations will you have no purpose. You attempts to understand the topic are at most half assed while you pretend to have an understanding

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know how superior you are and junk, but I have never ever ever ever ever said I understand all that hocus pocus.

Indeed, that's the strength of faith - blind obedience without understanding. Just keep nodding your head up and down.

Very honestly, that is beyond my understanding.

lud the only area in which I am superior is in the realization that I'm not superior. We aren't in some competition to prove ourselves better than others. We are merely require to obey and declare truth.

blind obedience make no sense and no one is talking about it. I obey because I see. I've received more witnesses than I can deny to pretend that obedience to the Lord isn't the clearest and most reasonable act.

if you were willing to let go of your desire to be superior and humble yourself enough to experiment on the Word, you will quickly see things the same way

 

[theword]

He planned all the good and evil things in this world and the destruction of it.

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the "message" negates any meaning to (your) life ... and by the destruction of it, an inclusion for everyone else. -


what about self control, sucess with a happy ending ?

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I only speak the Truth. All God's people are used to lying to each other.

 

[RandomVariable]

ISIS will continue to grow in strength. While more and more of the world will be drawn into the conflict it will quickly become a battle of Islamic supremacy between Sunni and Shia. The U.S., in an effort to stem the growth of ISIS, will/is turn a blind eye to Iran's nuclear program. In the last stages of Iran's completion of the bomb Israel will strike. This puts this into a four way; Shia, Shunni, U.S., Israel f-up. The growth of Islam around the world will feed into ISIS's power. When the economic collapse happens later this year it will be a major boost to Islamic recruitment where religion trumps nationality. This is the end, and you do not have to just take God's word for it. America should align itself with Israel and dig in hard and fast. As it is America will probably just be non-committal and as the world all falls apart it will just eat itself apart from the inside out. God is real. Satan is real. The battle is real.

 

[The Irish Ram]

ISIS will continue to grow in strength. While more and more of the world will be drawn into the conflict it will quickly become a battle of Islamic supremacy between Sunni and Shia. The U.S., in an effort to stem the growth of ISIS, will/is turn a blind eye to Iran's nuclear program. In the last stages of Iran's completion of the bomb Israel will strike. This puts this into a four way; Shia, Shunni, U.S., Israel f-up. The growth of Islam around the world will feed into ISIS's power. When the economic collapse happens later this year it will be a major boost to Islamic recruitment where religion trumps nationality. This is the end, and you do not have to just take God's word for it. America should align itself with Israel and dig in hard and fast. As it is America will probably just be non-committal and as the world all falls apart it will just eat itself apart from the inside out. God is real. Satan is real. The battle is real.

I quoted that post because it deserves being repeated and reread. It is spot on.
Make note that the wealth that is being re-distributed is going to Obama's allies, not ours.
Your paycheck, to Islam = redistribution, of your wealth. Iran is going to become a real game changer because of our lack of want to change their desire to annihilate Israel. The biggest mistake in the career of this country is to turn our back on Israel, in these times.

Thanks RV for telling it like it is.

 

[RandomVariable]

ISIS will continue to grow in strength. While more and more of the world will be drawn into the conflict it will quickly become a battle of Islamic supremacy between Sunni and Shia. The U.S., in an effort to stem the growth of ISIS, will/is turn a blind eye to Iran's nuclear program. In the last stages of Iran's completion of the bomb Israel will strike. This puts this into a four way; Shia, Shunni, U.S., Israel f-up. The growth of Islam around the world will feed into ISIS's power. When the economic collapse happens later this year it will be a major boost to Islamic recruitment where religion trumps nationality. This is the end, and you do not have to just take God's word for it. America should align itself with Israel and dig in hard and fast. As it is America will probably just be non-committal and as the world all falls apart it will just eat itself apart from the inside out. God is real. Satan is real. The battle is real.

I quoted that post because it deserves being repeated and reread. It is spot on.
Make note that the wealth that is being re-distributed is going to Obama's allies, not ours.
Your paycheck, to Islam = redistribution, of your wealth. Iran is going to become a real game changer because of our lack of want to change their desire to annihilate Israel. The biggest mistake in the career of this country is to turn our back on Israel, in these times.

Thanks RV for telling it like it is.

It is not Obama's socialistic tendencies (another time perhaps) which kindles God's wrath. It is the vanity and pride of the business elite. Somewhat ironically the Islamists point to the same thing in their motives for wanting to destroy America. Satan works in subtle ways.

 

[The Irish Ram]

If you are looking at the global scene from a prophet position, Obama has been strategic in bringing all nations against Israel. He is fueling a religion that is wildly dangerous. He wants to sanction our ally, Israel, and normalize relations with Iran. Every move he makes benefits radical Muslims. A terrorist group, muzzled in their own country, serve as his advisors. Egypt hasn't been Israel's enemy for 30 years. They are now. What was the whole, "overthrow Libya", who was also behaving, move? Iran, Cuba, Russia, he'll bed with anyone but middle class Americans.
He has fulfilled prophesy, and has miles to go before he sleeps.
We have no more business elite. They've moved, unless you are referring to the Hollywood elite. We have global elitists running this country. We have no more borders. Instant citizens flood our markets.

God's wrath is in defense of Israel. We are now on the wrong end of history and God. We can watch it unfolding every night on the news. You can't remove politics from religion anymore. Politics are the driving force behind the government that invades Israel and prompts Christ's return. We need to recognize the players.
Forcing Israel into a peace treaty is specific Bible prophecy. It is also Kerry and Obama's agenda. After them it will be Clinton's or Bush's agenda.

 

[Avatar4321]

ISIS will continue to grow in strength. While more and more of the world will be drawn into the conflict it will quickly become a battle of Islamic supremacy between Sunni and Shia. The U.S., in an effort to stem the growth of ISIS, will/is turn a blind eye to Iran's nuclear program. In the last stages of Iran's completion of the bomb Israel will strike. This puts this into a four way; Shia, Shunni, U.S., Israel f-up. The growth of Islam around the world will feed into ISIS's power. When the economic collapse happens later this year it will be a major boost to Islamic recruitment where religion trumps nationality. This is the end, and you do not have to just take God's word for it. America should align itself with Israel and dig in hard and fast. As it is America will probably just be non-committal and as the world all falls apart it will just eat itself apart from the inside out. God is real. Satan is real. The battle is real.

I quoted that post because it deserves being repeated and reread. It is spot on.
Make note that the wealth that is being re-distributed is going to Obama's allies, not ours.
Your paycheck, to Islam = redistribution, of your wealth. Iran is going to become a real game changer because of our lack of want to change their desire to annihilate Israel. The biggest mistake in the career of this country is to turn our back on Israel, in these times.

Thanks RV for telling it like it is.

It is not Obama's socialistic tendencies (another time perhaps) which kindles God's wrath. It is the vanity and pride of the business elite. Somewhat ironically the Islamists point to the same thing in their motives for wanting to destroy America. Satan works in subtle ways.

so you don't think God has a problem with political leaders with great hubris trying to burden people?

 

[Penelope]

Pene, the Bible was authored by God, scribed by men, under the scrutiny of the Holy Spirit. There are several ways to prove that. Embedded code that the writers had no awareness of. Prophecy that man can't replicate. Archeology that proves what the books say as true. History, that proves it's validity.

The Jews have lost their identity more than once. Everything they owned of value, was taken or destroyed when they were enslaved. But it isn't all oral. One of the oldest writings we have found is attributed to Job. Jews had Moses' laws in the arc of the covenant before the Temple was looted. There were copies made before the originals were removed. The Dead Sea Scrolls for one.
Christ told us every word of the OT was from God. That's how Christians know. God gave the Jews the criteria to tell if it was God breathed or man breathed. If it was a prophet of God, his accuracy rate would be 100%.
If you are being led by the Holy Spirit, then write like Him. Every letter, noun, verb, Proper name, number of letters in your sentences all have to be multiples of or divided evenly by 7. Master that and I'll give you the other 35 rules to write by while you are under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. And be sure to include a specific prediction or two, so we can test your claim........

Your basing your whole view of the Bible on the Bible itself. You need to or should read some history, and read about other Gods as there were many pre Judaism. Finding the Dead Sea Scrolls does not prove the Bible was wrote by God, but just by men in the same area. God didn't give the Jews anything special, and the Jews of the OT were not monotheistic as they claim. The Hebrews were a group of people, who spoke Hebrew and sent apart from their homeland to find another land to grow crops etc.
I suggest you look at the OT and some of the NT with open eyes, the God of this world does not tell people to kill other people and animals, nor does the God of this world have a favorite person. This it the Jewish God, a war God, and as good ole Solomon also built altars to other Gods. King Cyrus was Persian King and yet God called him his anointed, well for the Hebrews or Jews he was their God, as he freed them and gave them money to rebuild the temple. Do not romanticize the Bible , most of the writings in it like Ezekiel's we would put that person in a mental hosp. today if he was experiencing such hallucinations. Also so much is taken from others oral tradition, Zoroastrian, and read some of the Egyptian god stories. Not saying there is no God, not at all, except the Jewish God of the OT is not the God I serve as he was their war God.

don't you think if you were born in Saudi Arabia you'd most likely be a Muslim, I would be I'm sure, but I was born into a Christian upbringing.

 

[BluePhantom]

the Bible was written by God via the Holy Spirit. The Bible is 100% truth.

Ok Luke 2:2 identifies the birth of Jesus as being during the governorship of Syria by Quirinius.(1) Matthew 2:1 identifies the birth of Jesus as happening during the reign of Herod.(2) However, Herod died in 4 BC (3) and the governorship of Quirinius didn't start until 6 AD (4). So if the Bible is 100% truth please explain how Jesus was both born before 4 BC and at the same time after 6 AD. This ought to be good.

1) Luke 2 NIV - The Birth of Jesus - In those days - Bible Gateway
2) Matthew 2 NIV - The Magi Visit the Messiah - After - Bible Gateway
3) King Herod the Great
4) Quirinius the Governor of Syria

Also in Genesis 2:4-25 God creates Adam, then creates plants, then creates the animals, and then finally creates woman (Eve). But in Genesis 1:9-25 God created plants on the third day, then animals on the fifth day, and then He created man and woman at the same time on the sixth day. So which came first? Man or plants? Was man created first and woman later as in Genesis 2 or at the same time as in Genesis 1? I mean we are not even through two chapters and already there are disagreements and contradictions.

Genesis 1 NIV - The Beginning - In the beginning God - Bible Gateway
Genesis 2 NIV - Thus the heavens and the earth were - Bible Gateway

In Genesis God created the seventh day and made it holy "...because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done." This is the Sabbath. But in Deuteronomy 5:12-15 it says the Sabbath should be observed and kept holy because "...you were slaves in Egypt and God and that the Lord your God brought you out of there with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm. Therefore the Lord your God has commanded you to observe the Sabbath day." So which is it? Are we supposed to keep the Sabbath because it represents God's day of rest from creation or because it is a reminder of freedom from slavery?

Genesis 2 NIV - Thus the heavens and the earth were - Bible Gateway
Deuteronomy 5 12-15 - Observe the Sabbath day by keeping - Bible Gateway

 

[BluePhantom]

Look everyone if we really want to discuss what the Bible says about the end of times...what it REALLY says...I will be happy to renew my threads about the Revelation. I stopped for two reasons: 1) no one seemed that interested, and 2) those who did respond were...well...so closed minded and well....stupid (for lack of a better way to put it) that it was impossible to have a constructive discourse with them. If there is really interest in this subject and if there are those who want to explore this topic aside from just pounding their shoe on the table I will be happy to continue. Below are the links to the threads I already started about this topic. If you all want to continue discussing it and continue an actual analysis of the text then in "On The Apocalypse Part II" just post "Let's continue" and we will go on with where I left off. It's a great topic of discussion but I am not going to waste my time with nuts, the closed minded, or the extremists. If you want to know what the Bible says about such things I can tell you. It's up to you

On The Apocalypse Part I US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum
On The Apocalypse Part II US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

 

[ninja007]

I know what the bible says about the end times; very few do. Non-Believers cannot know.

 

[BluePhantom]

I know what the bible says about the end times; very few do. Non-Believers cannot know.

Uh uh. Way to completely ignore the previous post about the contradictions I pointed out. Not surprising though because the only explanation is that in each instance one of them is wrong. For example Jesus could not have been born both during the reign of Herod and the governorship if Syria by Quirinius. Which one is right (if either)? They can't both be right. Which means one of them is wrong and hence the Bible is not 100% truth as you asserted.

 

[ninja007]

I know what the bible says about the end times; very few do. Non-Believers cannot know.

Uh uh. Way to completely ignore the previous post about the contradictions I pointed out. Not surprising though because the only explanation is that in each instance one of them is wrong. For example Jesus could not have been born both during the reign of Herod and the governorship if Syria by Quirinius. Which one is right (if either)? They can't both be right. Which means one of them is wrong and hence the Bible is not 100% truth as you asserted.

chapter and verses pls.