Elon Musk publicized the names of government employees he wants to cut. It’s terrifying federal workers

Probably no more or less efficient than the private sector.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

For starters, they don’t even have zero based budgeting. When they fall short, they call for raising taxes or print/borrow more money. They are not even close to being as efficient as the private sector. Any private sector business run like the federal government would have been out of business decades ago.
 
You have no idea what you are talking about.

For starters, they don’t even have zero based budgeting. When they all short, the call for raising taxes or print/borrow more money. They are not even close to being as efficient as the private sector. Any private sector business run like the federal government would have been out of business decades ago.
Government and its workers have no concern for P&L, or the fact they’ve been ripping off taxpayers for years with their telecommuting scam while their employer is trillions in the whole.

Gig is up.
 
Tell that to all the laid off auto workers. Biden and Gov. Whitmer have done nothing for them.

That's one industry, guy. One industry that has been on life support for decades due to it's inefficiencies.

How many times has the government had to bail out the Auto Industry because the Germans and Japanese are better at making cars?
 
You have no idea what you are talking about.

For starters, they don’t even have zero based budgeting. When they fall short, they call for raising taxes or print/borrow more money. They are not even close to being as efficient as the private sector. Any private sector business run like the federal government would have been out of business decades ago.

That's not really a good comparison, guy.

The government also isn't paying executives 8 and 9 figures to lose money.

The CEO of United Hell-care gets shot, and most of the country cheers. That's not a ringing endorsement of the private sector.
 
Government and its workers have no concern for P&L, or the fact they’ve been ripping off taxpayers for years with their telecommuting scam while their employer is trillions in the whole.

Gig is up.

Again, when Nana can't get her social security check because Elon fired the people who were getting it to her on time, that's when the Gig will be up...for you guys.

Obviously, everyone resents the Federal government in that taxes are compulsory. With the private sector, you have the illusion of choice.
 
That's one industry, guy. One industry that has been on life support for decades due to it's inefficiencies.

How many times has the government had to bail out the Auto Industry because the Germans and Japanese are better at making cars?
You mean GM and Ford because union workers in Detroit are overpaid and unproductive

Germany and Japan put their factories in non union right to work states and need no bailouts from the federal government
 
So apparently the goal isn't just to cut out waste and save money, it's also to intimidate and terrify other people, in this case the federal workforce. Sadly, this is not news to me.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/27/busi...ex.html?iid=cnn_buildContentRecirc_end_recirc

CNN —​
When President-elect Donald Trump said Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy would recommend major cuts to the federal government in his administration, many public employees knew that their jobs could be on the line.​
Now they have a new fear: becoming the personal targets of the world’s richest man – and his legions of followers.​
Last week, in the midst of the flurry of his daily missives, Musk reposted two X posts that revealed the names and titles of people holding four relatively obscure climate-related government positions. Each post has been viewed tens of millions of times, and the individuals named have been subjected to a barrage of negative attention. At least one of the four women named has deleted her social media accounts.​
Although the information he posted on those government positions is available through public online databases, these posts target otherwise unknown government employees in roles that do not deal directly with the public.​

Several current federal employees told CNN they’re afraid their lives will be forever changed – including physically threatened – as Musk makes behind-the-scenes bureaucrats into personal targets. Others told CNN that the threat of being in Musk’s crosshairs might even drive them from their jobs entirely – achieving Musk’s smaller government goals without so much as a proper review.​
“These tactics are aimed at sowing terror and fear at federal employees,” said Everett Kelley, president of the American Federation of Government Employees, which represents more than 800,000 of the 2.3 million civilian federal employees. “It’s intended to make them fearful that they will become afraid to speak up.”​
This isn’t new behavior for Musk, who has often singled out individuals who he claims have made mistakes or stand in his way. One former federal employee, previously targeted by Musk, said she experienced something very similar.​
“It’s his way of intimidating people to either quit or also send a signal to all the other agencies that ‘you’re next’,” said Mary “Missy” Cummings, an engineering and computer science professor at George Mason University, who drew Musk’s ire because of her criticisms of Tesla when she was at the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.​

Going dark after attacks​

Last week Musk reposted an account with the handle Fentasyl and the name “Datahazard,” which describes itself as “Unincorporated Think Tank ~~ Focus: Govt Efficiency, Civil Rights, Victim Advocacy.”​
One of the posts reads: “I don’t think the US taxpayers should pay for the employment of a ’Director of Climate Diversification (she/her)’ at the US International Development Finance Corporation,” with a partial screengrab of an employee and her location.​
Musk, who called himself “super pro climate” in an X post last year, reposted and commented: “So many fake jobs.” The post has received more than 33 million views and a storm of negative comments. Some called the role a “fraud job” and others demanded Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency cut jobs like it. One user commented: “Gravy train is over.”​
It appears the woman Musk targeted has since gone dark on social media, shutting down her accounts. The agency, the US International Development Finance Corporation, says it supports investment in climate mitigation, resilience and adaptation in low-income countries experiencing the most devastating effects of climate change. A DFC official said the agency does not comment on individual personnel positions or matters.​
Related articleRemote work crackdown: How Trump’s DOGE could push federal workers to quit​

Musk also called out the Department of Energy’s chief climate officer in its loan programs office. The office funds fledgling energy technologies in need of early investment and awarded $465 million to Tesla Motors in 2010, helping to position Musk’s electric vehicle company as an EV industry leader. The chief climate officer works across agencies to “reduce barriers and enable clean energy deployment” according to her online bio.​
Another woman, who serves as senior advisor on environmental justice and climate change at the Department of Health and Human Services, was another Musk target. HHS focuses on protecting the public health from pollution and other environmental hazards, especially in low-income communities and communities of color that are experiencing a higher share of exposures and impacts. The office first launched at Health and Human Services under the Biden administration in 2022.​
A senior adviser to climate at the Department of Housing and Urban Development was also singled out. The original X post said the woman “should not be paid $181,648.00 by the US taxpayer to be the ‘Climate advisor’ at HUD.” Musk reposted with the comment: “But maybe her advice is amazing.” Followed by two laughing emojis.​
CNN reached out to all four federal employees who either declined comment or were unable to be reached. CNN also reached out to HHS, DOE and HUD for comment.​
X did not respond to an email seeking comment.​
The AFGE public union pointed out that as a federal contractor, Musk himself has benefited from government programs, with $750 billion per year spent on federal contractors compared to about $200 billion for the civilian federal workforce. “We are a comparative steal, and we want to help clean it up too,” Kelley said.​

Putting people in harm’s way​

Musk has done this kind of thing before – and it’s led to real danger for the people named.​
Missy Cummings angered Musk when she was appointed a senior advisor at the NHTSA because her research and public comments were critical of Tesla’s driver-assist programs and she had called for regulating the systems.​
Musk targeted Cummings on what was then called Twitter, and his legions of fans followed.​
In an interview, Cummings said she received a torrent of attacks, including death threats, and had to temporarily relocate before she eventually moved.​
Cummings said she already knows of federal employees who “have dedicated their lives to civil service,” already quitting their jobs in anticipation of what’s to come.​
“He intended for them, for people just like this, to be intimidated and just go ahead and quit so he didn’t have to fire them. So his plan, to some extent, is working,” she said.​
CNN reached out to multiple experts and academics who specialize in cyber harassment, doxing and online abuse. But several declined to comment on the record for fear of themselves becoming Musk’s targets.​
“What has happened has an incredible and horrific chilling effect,” one of them said.​
Another said they are “not surprised” with Musk’s re-posts, adding they are an example of a “classic pattern” of cyber harassment.​
What do you think?2.3K comments have been posted​
Ramaswamy did not directly respond to questions about singling out individual federal employees but told CNN: “Most federal employees, like most human beings, are fundamentally good people and deserve to be treated with respect, but the real problem is the bureaucracy.”​
“Our opponent is not any particular individual. Our opponent is the bureaucracy,” he added.​
In a follow-up post, the Fentasyl account, which itself is anonymous, wrote: “It goes without saying that you should not harass someone solely because they hold a senior government plum job that should probably not exist,” the account posted. “But senior government officials are not mere rank-and-file employees. We deserve to know who is running our government & what they do.”​
Cummings, who was also one of the first female fighter pilots in the US Navy, said she felt an obligation to speak out.​
“Somebody has got to speak out,” she said. “I’m just not going to let him win on this point.”
Are they "terrified" enough to get jobs in the private sector, where they will be required to show up for work?
 
But the question is, will we be better off?

When Nana's social security check starts coming in late because half the bureaucracy that keeps things running has moved on to the private sector, and the nitwits Trump and Elon put in their place have no idea what they are doing (and don't really give a shit about Nana anyway) is that going to be a good thing?
How do you know that's going to be the case? Why can't it also be true that there is a ton of people in the social security administration that are redundant? If could very well be that Nana gets her ss check on time, and they cut unneeded people from the bureauacrasy.
 
Are they "terrified" enough to get jobs in the private sector, where they will be required to show up for work?
You are so cruel

Longterm federal employees have forgotten how to work

If it become sink or swim in the private sector many of them will drown
 
That's one industry, guy. One industry that has been on life support for decades due to it's inefficiencies.

How many times has the government had to bail out the Auto Industry because the Germans and Japanese are better at making cars?


These aren't just about the auto industry.


Job Cuts Announced by US-Based Companies Surge in August 2024; Hiring Falls to Lowest YTD Since Challenger Began Tracking in 2005​







 
The Federal Government is the only major employer that has never had a layoff. This is way overdue and will done in phases. Cut the fat first. Then start closing redundant departments and consolidating.
Did you know that Obama's nearly $1 trillion stimulus that was supposed to be spent on 'infrastructure' was instead used by Dem states to make payroll and avoid laying off state workers during the 2007/2008 recession? When unemployment peaked at 10% for the rest of us, state workers unemployment was unchanged at 3.8%.
 
Lisa always wants other people to suffer, probably because her own miserable life turned out to be such a disappointment.
Showing up for work isn't suffering. Billions of people do it everyday.
 
Yup. NewsVine is going on about “terrifying people” - when they are being given two months’ notice AND will get a generous termination package.

Most people get called into HR, told they are getting two weeks’ severance, and directed to clear their desk and leave the premises.

Why these liberals think that government workers who have gotten away with “working” from home a few hours a day are entitled to more than the people who PAY THEIR SALARIES is just another example of misplaced loyalties.
I read this story many years ago about some higher up who worked in the post office. He retired and after retiring he told of how his position was so stupid. He made a tremendous salary and admitted that he did nothing. He got 3 months of vacation per year, that high salary, great benefits, and admitted that even when he was working, he basically did nothing because he had those under him doing the work. Most of the time he didn't even make decisions. He kept quiet about it for many years because he was on the gravy train but, after retiring, he said he could spill the beans and he did. While that isn't a direct government job, the postal service is paid for by government dollars.
 
50 k is poverty wage.
Try $15,000

 
So apparently the goal isn't just to cut out waste and save money, it's also to intimidate and terrify other people, in this case the federal workforce. Sadly, this is not news to me.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/27/busi...ex.html?iid=cnn_buildContentRecirc_end_recirc

CNN —​
When President-elect Donald Trump said Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy would recommend major cuts to the federal government in his administration, many public employees knew that their jobs could be on the line.​
Now they have a new fear: becoming the personal targets of the world’s richest man – and his legions of followers.​
Last week, in the midst of the flurry of his daily missives, Musk reposted two X posts that revealed the names and titles of people holding four relatively obscure climate-related government positions. Each post has been viewed tens of millions of times, and the individuals named have been subjected to a barrage of negative attention. At least one of the four women named has deleted her social media accounts.​
Although the information he posted on those government positions is available through public online databases, these posts target otherwise unknown government employees in roles that do not deal directly with the public.​

Several current federal employees told CNN they’re afraid their lives will be forever changed – including physically threatened – as Musk makes behind-the-scenes bureaucrats into personal targets. Others told CNN that the threat of being in Musk’s crosshairs might even drive them from their jobs entirely – achieving Musk’s smaller government goals without so much as a proper review.​
“These tactics are aimed at sowing terror and fear at federal employees,” said Everett Kelley, president of the American Federation of Government Employees, which represents more than 800,000 of the 2.3 million civilian federal employees. “It’s intended to make them fearful that they will become afraid to speak up.”​
This isn’t new behavior for Musk, who has often singled out individuals who he claims have made mistakes or stand in his way. One former federal employee, previously targeted by Musk, said she experienced something very similar.​
“It’s his way of intimidating people to either quit or also send a signal to all the other agencies that ‘you’re next’,” said Mary “Missy” Cummings, an engineering and computer science professor at George Mason University, who drew Musk’s ire because of her criticisms of Tesla when she was at the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.​

Going dark after attacks​

Last week Musk reposted an account with the handle Fentasyl and the name “Datahazard,” which describes itself as “Unincorporated Think Tank ~~ Focus: Govt Efficiency, Civil Rights, Victim Advocacy.”​
One of the posts reads: “I don’t think the US taxpayers should pay for the employment of a ’Director of Climate Diversification (she/her)’ at the US International Development Finance Corporation,” with a partial screengrab of an employee and her location.​
Musk, who called himself “super pro climate” in an X post last year, reposted and commented: “So many fake jobs.” The post has received more than 33 million views and a storm of negative comments. Some called the role a “fraud job” and others demanded Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency cut jobs like it. One user commented: “Gravy train is over.”​
It appears the woman Musk targeted has since gone dark on social media, shutting down her accounts. The agency, the US International Development Finance Corporation, says it supports investment in climate mitigation, resilience and adaptation in low-income countries experiencing the most devastating effects of climate change. A DFC official said the agency does not comment on individual personnel positions or matters.​
Related articleRemote work crackdown: How Trump’s DOGE could push federal workers to quit​

Musk also called out the Department of Energy’s chief climate officer in its loan programs office. The office funds fledgling energy technologies in need of early investment and awarded $465 million to Tesla Motors in 2010, helping to position Musk’s electric vehicle company as an EV industry leader. The chief climate officer works across agencies to “reduce barriers and enable clean energy deployment” according to her online bio.​
Another woman, who serves as senior advisor on environmental justice and climate change at the Department of Health and Human Services, was another Musk target. HHS focuses on protecting the public health from pollution and other environmental hazards, especially in low-income communities and communities of color that are experiencing a higher share of exposures and impacts. The office first launched at Health and Human Services under the Biden administration in 2022.​
A senior adviser to climate at the Department of Housing and Urban Development was also singled out. The original X post said the woman “should not be paid $181,648.00 by the US taxpayer to be the ‘Climate advisor’ at HUD.” Musk reposted with the comment: “But maybe her advice is amazing.” Followed by two laughing emojis.​
CNN reached out to all four federal employees who either declined comment or were unable to be reached. CNN also reached out to HHS, DOE and HUD for comment.​
X did not respond to an email seeking comment.​
The AFGE public union pointed out that as a federal contractor, Musk himself has benefited from government programs, with $750 billion per year spent on federal contractors compared to about $200 billion for the civilian federal workforce. “We are a comparative steal, and we want to help clean it up too,” Kelley said.​

Putting people in harm’s way​

Musk has done this kind of thing before – and it’s led to real danger for the people named.​
Missy Cummings angered Musk when she was appointed a senior advisor at the NHTSA because her research and public comments were critical of Tesla’s driver-assist programs and she had called for regulating the systems.​
Musk targeted Cummings on what was then called Twitter, and his legions of fans followed.​
In an interview, Cummings said she received a torrent of attacks, including death threats, and had to temporarily relocate before she eventually moved.​
Cummings said she already knows of federal employees who “have dedicated their lives to civil service,” already quitting their jobs in anticipation of what’s to come.​
“He intended for them, for people just like this, to be intimidated and just go ahead and quit so he didn’t have to fire them. So his plan, to some extent, is working,” she said.​
CNN reached out to multiple experts and academics who specialize in cyber harassment, doxing and online abuse. But several declined to comment on the record for fear of themselves becoming Musk’s targets.​
“What has happened has an incredible and horrific chilling effect,” one of them said.​
Another said they are “not surprised” with Musk’s re-posts, adding they are an example of a “classic pattern” of cyber harassment.​
What do you think?2.3K comments have been posted​
Ramaswamy did not directly respond to questions about singling out individual federal employees but told CNN: “Most federal employees, like most human beings, are fundamentally good people and deserve to be treated with respect, but the real problem is the bureaucracy.”​
“Our opponent is not any particular individual. Our opponent is the bureaucracy,” he added.​
In a follow-up post, the Fentasyl account, which itself is anonymous, wrote: “It goes without saying that you should not harass someone solely because they hold a senior government plum job that should probably not exist,” the account posted. “But senior government officials are not mere rank-and-file employees. We deserve to know who is running our government & what they do.”​
Cummings, who was also one of the first female fighter pilots in the US Navy, said she felt an obligation to speak out.​
“Somebody has got to speak out,” she said. “I’m just not going to let him win on this point.”
A friend of mine was threatened worked as a city employee in a liberal town and was threatened with layoffs every year for 30 plus years, I worked jobs with layoffs, it is a part of life. This at least gives them time to look for work.
 
And workers are supposed to give employers 2 weeks notice when quitting? Surely not. Most HR departments have a hatred for I r even their best employees.
My impression is that you are never going to considered among the best employees

Libs who constantly complain are a pain in the ass
 
You mean GM and Ford because union workers in Detroit are overpaid and unproductive

Germany and Japan put their factories in non union right to work states and need no bailouts from the federal government

Uh, guy, German and Japanese unions are stronger than American Unions. They even have a say in who runs the company.

the only reason why they put a few factories in Jesusland was because Reagan threatened to hit them with tariffs if they didn't.

They mostly hire union guys from the Big Three who are already collecting their pensions.

No, the reason why American cars suck is because of bad decisions made in the board rooms by the guys making Eight Figures.
 
Showing up for work isn't suffering. Billions of people do it everyday.

So do most of these Federal workers.

I read this story many years ago about some higher up who worked in the post office. He retired and after retiring he told of how his position was so stupid. He made a tremendous salary and admitted that he did nothing. He got 3 months of vacation per year, that high salary, great benefits, and admitted that even when he was working, he basically did nothing because he had those under him doing the work. Most of the time he didn't even make decisions. He kept quiet about it for many years because he was on the gravy train but, after retiring, he said he could spill the beans and he did. While that isn't a direct government job, the postal service is paid for by government dollars.

Yet amazingly, the mail gets delivered. How does that work, if they are all lazy? 318 Million pieces of mail delivered DAILY.
 
Uh, guy, German and Japanese unions are stronger than American Unions. They even have a say in who runs the company.

In Germany but not in America
the only reason why they put a few factories in Jesusland was because Reagan threatened to hit them with tariffs if they didn't.


They mostly hire union guys from the Big Three who are already collecting their pensions.

No, the reason why American cars suck is because of bad decisions made in the board rooms by the guys making Eight Figures.
Thats not entirely untrue

American engineering is often 2nd best

The Japanese in particular have excellent engineers

And both German and Japanese cultures are obsessed with quality and hard work that many American union members lack
 
So apparently the goal isn't just to cut out waste and save money, it's also to intimidate and terrify other people, in this case the federal workforce. Sadly, this is not news to me.

They want people terrified. Anyone who doesn't think exactly like they do. They're convinced they deserve revenge, payback.

The country hasn't seen this before, although the world has.
 

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