Elon Musk publicized the names of government employees he wants to cut. It’s terrifying federal workers

So apparently the goal isn't just to cut out waste and save money, it's also to intimidate and terrify other people, in this case the federal workforce. Sadly, this is not news to me.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/27/busi...ex.html?iid=cnn_buildContentRecirc_end_recirc

CNN —​
When President-elect Donald Trump said Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy would recommend major cuts to the federal government in his administration, many public employees knew that their jobs could be on the line.​
Now they have a new fear: becoming the personal targets of the world’s richest man – and his legions of followers.​
Last week, in the midst of the flurry of his daily missives, Musk reposted two X posts that revealed the names and titles of people holding four relatively obscure climate-related government positions. Each post has been viewed tens of millions of times, and the individuals named have been subjected to a barrage of negative attention. At least one of the four women named has deleted her social media accounts.​
Although the information he posted on those government positions is available through public online databases, these posts target otherwise unknown government employees in roles that do not deal directly with the public.​

Several current federal employees told CNN they’re afraid their lives will be forever changed – including physically threatened – as Musk makes behind-the-scenes bureaucrats into personal targets. Others told CNN that the threat of being in Musk’s crosshairs might even drive them from their jobs entirely – achieving Musk’s smaller government goals without so much as a proper review.​
“These tactics are aimed at sowing terror and fear at federal employees,” said Everett Kelley, president of the American Federation of Government Employees, which represents more than 800,000 of the 2.3 million civilian federal employees. “It’s intended to make them fearful that they will become afraid to speak up.”​
This isn’t new behavior for Musk, who has often singled out individuals who he claims have made mistakes or stand in his way. One former federal employee, previously targeted by Musk, said she experienced something very similar.​
“It’s his way of intimidating people to either quit or also send a signal to all the other agencies that ‘you’re next’,” said Mary “Missy” Cummings, an engineering and computer science professor at George Mason University, who drew Musk’s ire because of her criticisms of Tesla when she was at the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.​

Going dark after attacks​

Last week Musk reposted an account with the handle Fentasyl and the name “Datahazard,” which describes itself as “Unincorporated Think Tank ~~ Focus: Govt Efficiency, Civil Rights, Victim Advocacy.”​
One of the posts reads: “I don’t think the US taxpayers should pay for the employment of a ’Director of Climate Diversification (she/her)’ at the US International Development Finance Corporation,” with a partial screengrab of an employee and her location.​
Musk, who called himself “super pro climate” in an X post last year, reposted and commented: “So many fake jobs.” The post has received more than 33 million views and a storm of negative comments. Some called the role a “fraud job” and others demanded Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency cut jobs like it. One user commented: “Gravy train is over.”​
It appears the woman Musk targeted has since gone dark on social media, shutting down her accounts. The agency, the US International Development Finance Corporation, says it supports investment in climate mitigation, resilience and adaptation in low-income countries experiencing the most devastating effects of climate change. A DFC official said the agency does not comment on individual personnel positions or matters.​
Related articleRemote work crackdown: How Trump’s DOGE could push federal workers to quit​

Musk also called out the Department of Energy’s chief climate officer in its loan programs office. The office funds fledgling energy technologies in need of early investment and awarded $465 million to Tesla Motors in 2010, helping to position Musk’s electric vehicle company as an EV industry leader. The chief climate officer works across agencies to “reduce barriers and enable clean energy deployment” according to her online bio.​
Another woman, who serves as senior advisor on environmental justice and climate change at the Department of Health and Human Services, was another Musk target. HHS focuses on protecting the public health from pollution and other environmental hazards, especially in low-income communities and communities of color that are experiencing a higher share of exposures and impacts. The office first launched at Health and Human Services under the Biden administration in 2022.​
A senior adviser to climate at the Department of Housing and Urban Development was also singled out. The original X post said the woman “should not be paid $181,648.00 by the US taxpayer to be the ‘Climate advisor’ at HUD.” Musk reposted with the comment: “But maybe her advice is amazing.” Followed by two laughing emojis.​
CNN reached out to all four federal employees who either declined comment or were unable to be reached. CNN also reached out to HHS, DOE and HUD for comment.​
X did not respond to an email seeking comment.​
The AFGE public union pointed out that as a federal contractor, Musk himself has benefited from government programs, with $750 billion per year spent on federal contractors compared to about $200 billion for the civilian federal workforce. “We are a comparative steal, and we want to help clean it up too,” Kelley said.​

Putting people in harm’s way​

Musk has done this kind of thing before – and it’s led to real danger for the people named.​
Missy Cummings angered Musk when she was appointed a senior advisor at the NHTSA because her research and public comments were critical of Tesla’s driver-assist programs and she had called for regulating the systems.​
Musk targeted Cummings on what was then called Twitter, and his legions of fans followed.​
In an interview, Cummings said she received a torrent of attacks, including death threats, and had to temporarily relocate before she eventually moved.​
Cummings said she already knows of federal employees who “have dedicated their lives to civil service,” already quitting their jobs in anticipation of what’s to come.​
“He intended for them, for people just like this, to be intimidated and just go ahead and quit so he didn’t have to fire them. So his plan, to some extent, is working,” she said.​
CNN reached out to multiple experts and academics who specialize in cyber harassment, doxing and online abuse. But several declined to comment on the record for fear of themselves becoming Musk’s targets.​
“What has happened has an incredible and horrific chilling effect,” one of them said.​
Another said they are “not surprised” with Musk’s re-posts, adding they are an example of a “classic pattern” of cyber harassment.​
What do you think?2.3K comments have been posted​
Ramaswamy did not directly respond to questions about singling out individual federal employees but told CNN: “Most federal employees, like most human beings, are fundamentally good people and deserve to be treated with respect, but the real problem is the bureaucracy.”​
“Our opponent is not any particular individual. Our opponent is the bureaucracy,” he added.​
In a follow-up post, the Fentasyl account, which itself is anonymous, wrote: “It goes without saying that you should not harass someone solely because they hold a senior government plum job that should probably not exist,” the account posted. “But senior government officials are not mere rank-and-file employees. We deserve to know who is running our government & what they do.”​
Cummings, who was also one of the first female fighter pilots in the US Navy, said she felt an obligation to speak out.​
“Somebody has got to speak out,” she said. “I’m just not going to let him win on this point.”

Welcome to the private sector, time to be big boys and girls.
 
The point was there are many pointless government jobs which could be eliminated, without affecting anyone but those on the gravy train.

Well, it was a stupid point.

The fact is we have just as many Federal employees in 2024 as we did in 1960, when government was a lot bigger and the country had a lot less people.

In 1950 the Federal workforce was capped at 2 Million by law. That has been monkeyed with over the decades, but the upshot is that the bulk of the growth has been in contract workers who are not included in that OPM number.

The real number has to include the number of federal contract and grant workers, which in 2019 stood at 5.3 million. I don't know where that stands today, but I doubt seriously it has gone down.

Total Fed employees if you include the USPS and Military (in 2019) was 9.1 Million.

So the only way you get to a big number is if you count people who shouldn't be counted. Got it.

Not sure how you can slash the contractors, military personnel or USPS, those groups are working close to the bone now.

Better government means a smaller, efficient government. Enough of them meeting every day to tell us what we need and what we don't, and how much more of our money they need, and passing more laws to restrict us. That is not what our founding fathers had in mind.

Thank goodness. I don't go to the hospital for 18th century medicine, I don't go to a restaurant for 18th Century food sanitation...
 
Federal Government Made $236 billion “Improper Payments” Last Fiscal Year

What were the payment errors in FY 2023?

The $236 billion in improper payments
were reported by 14 agencies across 71 programs.

  • More than $175 billion (74%) of errors were overpayments—for example, payments to deceased individuals or those no longer eligible for government programs
  • $11.5 billion were underpayments
  • $44.6 billion were unknown payments—meaning it is unclear whether a payment was an error or not
  • $4.6 billion were cases where a recipient was entitled to a payment, but the payment failed to follow proper statutes or regulations
Some good news: payment errors have declined since last fiscal year by about $11 billion. Eight program areas saw substantial declines in improper payments this past year. For example, payment errors under Medicaid dropped by $30 billion from the previous year. Program areas that reported substantial declines in payment errors said the decreases were due to mitigation strategies that they had implemented, among other things.

But there was also some bad news: Five programs saw substantial increases in payment errors. For example, the Department of Labor’s Pandemic Unemployment Insurance program saw an increase of $44 billion in errors.

Overall, while improper payments were down from last year, they remain higher than pre-pandemic times.



2.7 TRILLUON OVER 20 YEARS.
 
So the only way you get to a big number is if you count people who shouldn't be counted. Got it.
No, it means that a lot of the jobs that were done by government employees in 1950 are being done by contract employees today.

Those 5 million contract jobs didn't exist back then.

Gov't has grown massively in the intervening years- the growth is hidden if you are only look at OPM figures.
 
Revenue Historically is 17% of the GDP. Doesnt matter the tax rates as this is the average.

Our govt is spending 36.7%

This WILL EVENTUALLY FALL.

Someone tell me howcl to cut 5 Trillion off spending right now?

Be aware interest on the debt is approaching a Trillion a year
 
Federal Government Made $236 billion “Improper Payments” Last Fiscal Year

What were the payment errors in FY 2023?

The $236 billion in improper payments
were reported by 14 agencies across 71 programs.

  • More than $175 billion (74%) of errors were overpayments—for example, payments to deceased individuals or those no longer eligible for government programs
  • $11.5 billion were underpayments
  • $44.6 billion were unknown payments—meaning it is unclear whether a payment was an error or not
  • $4.6 billion were cases where a recipient was entitled to a payment, but the payment failed to follow proper statutes or regulations
Some good news: payment errors have declined since last fiscal year by about $11 billion. Eight program areas saw substantial declines in improper payments this past year. For example, payment errors under Medicaid dropped by $30 billion from the previous year. Program areas that reported substantial declines in payment errors said the decreases were due to mitigation strategies that they had implemented, among other things.

But there was also some bad news: Five programs saw substantial increases in payment errors. For example, the Department of Labor’s Pandemic Unemployment Insurance program saw an increase of $44 billion in errors.

Overall, while improper payments were down from last year, they remain higher than pre-pandemic times.



2.7 TRILLUON OVER 20 YEARS.
So we are talking less than 1% of GDP. Or 3% of all Federal outlays.

According to your chart, it went up every year Trump was in charge and down every year biden was in charge.
 
Revenue Historically is 17% of the GDP. Doesnt matter the tax rates as this is the average.

Our govt is spending 36.7%

This WILL EVENTUALLY FALL.

Someone tell me howcl to cut 5 Trillion off spending right now?

Be aware interest on the debt is approaching a Trillion a year
Make the rich pay their fair share.

Problem solved.
 
Farm Credit needs to be a priority as well.

 
No, it means that a lot of the jobs that were done by government employees in 1950 are being done by contract employees today.

Those 5 million contract jobs didn't exist back then.

Gov't has grown massively in the intervening years- the growth is hidden if you are only look at OPM figures.

Oh, I agree government has grown, but the point is, Elon isn't going to be able to cut the number of contractors, Postal Workers or members of the military. Contractors would probably INCREASE if you slash the federal payroll.
 
Oh, I agree government has grown, but the point is, Elon isn't going to be able to cut the number of contractors, Postal Workers or members of the military. Contractors would probably INCREASE if you slash the federal payroll.
I leave the USPS out of the equation, they aren't part of the budget.

There is plenty of fat and replication in the rest of Gov't, the GAO identifies it every year. All that's needed is the will to address it.

The DOGE looks like another "blue ribbon commission" to me, I will be shocked if they can get anything adopted.
 
But the question is, will we be better off?

When Nana's social security check starts coming in late because half the bureaucracy that keeps things running has moved on to the private sector, and the nitwits Trump and Elon put in their place have no idea what they are doing (and don't really give a shit about Nana anyway) is that going to be a good thing?
For every government worker who actually produces a work product, there are at least a dozen who either actively make his job harder, or ride his coattails. I’ve said for decades that government managers should be awarded a small percentage of any savings they can make in their budgets WITHOUT reducing the productivity of his/her work group. I’d bet that government spending could be cut fifty percent the first year without affecting productivity at all,
 
So apparently the goal isn't just to cut out waste and save money, it's also to intimidate and terrify other people, in this case the federal workforce. Sadly, this is not news to me.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/27/busi...ex.html?iid=cnn_buildContentRecirc_end_recirc

CNN —​
When President-elect Donald Trump said Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy would recommend major cuts to the federal government in his administration, many public employees knew that their jobs could be on the line.​
Now they have a new fear: becoming the personal targets of the world’s richest man – and his legions of followers.​
Last week, in the midst of the flurry of his daily missives, Musk reposted two X posts that revealed the names and titles of people holding four relatively obscure climate-related government positions. Each post has been viewed tens of millions of times, and the individuals named have been subjected to a barrage of negative attention. At least one of the four women named has deleted her social media accounts.​
Although the information he posted on those government positions is available through public online databases, these posts target otherwise unknown government employees in roles that do not deal directly with the public.​

Several current federal employees told CNN they’re afraid their lives will be forever changed – including physically threatened – as Musk makes behind-the-scenes bureaucrats into personal targets. Others told CNN that the threat of being in Musk’s crosshairs might even drive them from their jobs entirely – achieving Musk’s smaller government goals without so much as a proper review.​
“These tactics are aimed at sowing terror and fear at federal employees,” said Everett Kelley, president of the American Federation of Government Employees, which represents more than 800,000 of the 2.3 million civilian federal employees. “It’s intended to make them fearful that they will become afraid to speak up.”​
This isn’t new behavior for Musk, who has often singled out individuals who he claims have made mistakes or stand in his way. One former federal employee, previously targeted by Musk, said she experienced something very similar.​
“It’s his way of intimidating people to either quit or also send a signal to all the other agencies that ‘you’re next’,” said Mary “Missy” Cummings, an engineering and computer science professor at George Mason University, who drew Musk’s ire because of her criticisms of Tesla when she was at the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.​

Going dark after attacks​

Last week Musk reposted an account with the handle Fentasyl and the name “Datahazard,” which describes itself as “Unincorporated Think Tank ~~ Focus: Govt Efficiency, Civil Rights, Victim Advocacy.”​
One of the posts reads: “I don’t think the US taxpayers should pay for the employment of a ’Director of Climate Diversification (she/her)’ at the US International Development Finance Corporation,” with a partial screengrab of an employee and her location.​
Musk, who called himself “super pro climate” in an X post last year, reposted and commented: “So many fake jobs.” The post has received more than 33 million views and a storm of negative comments. Some called the role a “fraud job” and others demanded Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency cut jobs like it. One user commented: “Gravy train is over.”​
It appears the woman Musk targeted has since gone dark on social media, shutting down her accounts. The agency, the US International Development Finance Corporation, says it supports investment in climate mitigation, resilience and adaptation in low-income countries experiencing the most devastating effects of climate change. A DFC official said the agency does not comment on individual personnel positions or matters.​
Related articleRemote work crackdown: How Trump’s DOGE could push federal workers to quit​

Musk also called out the Department of Energy’s chief climate officer in its loan programs office. The office funds fledgling energy technologies in need of early investment and awarded $465 million to Tesla Motors in 2010, helping to position Musk’s electric vehicle company as an EV industry leader. The chief climate officer works across agencies to “reduce barriers and enable clean energy deployment” according to her online bio.​
Another woman, who serves as senior advisor on environmental justice and climate change at the Department of Health and Human Services, was another Musk target. HHS focuses on protecting the public health from pollution and other environmental hazards, especially in low-income communities and communities of color that are experiencing a higher share of exposures and impacts. The office first launched at Health and Human Services under the Biden administration in 2022.​
A senior adviser to climate at the Department of Housing and Urban Development was also singled out. The original X post said the woman “should not be paid $181,648.00 by the US taxpayer to be the ‘Climate advisor’ at HUD.” Musk reposted with the comment: “But maybe her advice is amazing.” Followed by two laughing emojis.​
CNN reached out to all four federal employees who either declined comment or were unable to be reached. CNN also reached out to HHS, DOE and HUD for comment.​
X did not respond to an email seeking comment.​
The AFGE public union pointed out that as a federal contractor, Musk himself has benefited from government programs, with $750 billion per year spent on federal contractors compared to about $200 billion for the civilian federal workforce. “We are a comparative steal, and we want to help clean it up too,” Kelley said.​

Putting people in harm’s way​

Musk has done this kind of thing before – and it’s led to real danger for the people named.​
Missy Cummings angered Musk when she was appointed a senior advisor at the NHTSA because her research and public comments were critical of Tesla’s driver-assist programs and she had called for regulating the systems.​
Musk targeted Cummings on what was then called Twitter, and his legions of fans followed.​
In an interview, Cummings said she received a torrent of attacks, including death threats, and had to temporarily relocate before she eventually moved.​
Cummings said she already knows of federal employees who “have dedicated their lives to civil service,” already quitting their jobs in anticipation of what’s to come.​
“He intended for them, for people just like this, to be intimidated and just go ahead and quit so he didn’t have to fire them. So his plan, to some extent, is working,” she said.​
CNN reached out to multiple experts and academics who specialize in cyber harassment, doxing and online abuse. But several declined to comment on the record for fear of themselves becoming Musk’s targets.​
“What has happened has an incredible and horrific chilling effect,” one of them said.​
Another said they are “not surprised” with Musk’s re-posts, adding they are an example of a “classic pattern” of cyber harassment.​
What do you think?2.3K comments have been posted​
Ramaswamy did not directly respond to questions about singling out individual federal employees but told CNN: “Most federal employees, like most human beings, are fundamentally good people and deserve to be treated with respect, but the real problem is the bureaucracy.”​
“Our opponent is not any particular individual. Our opponent is the bureaucracy,” he added.​
In a follow-up post, the Fentasyl account, which itself is anonymous, wrote: “It goes without saying that you should not harass someone solely because they hold a senior government plum job that should probably not exist,” the account posted. “But senior government officials are not mere rank-and-file employees. We deserve to know who is running our government & what they do.”​
Cummings, who was also one of the first female fighter pilots in the US Navy, said she felt an obligation to speak out.​
“Somebody has got to speak out,” she said. “I’m just not going to let him win on this point.”
I have intentionally been hands off with my OP BECAUSE I can see the Reactions and the majority of them, as expected, are in support of terrorizing the federal workforce, in addition to everyone else on Trump et al's "enemies list".

Not that this is news to me or anyone who is looking at the situation from a legal perspective. This is primarily because, at least for me, we saw how Trump supporters behaved when they attacked the U.S. Capitol on January 6th but more importantly how they and their supporters behaved and cried, when they were charged with the myriad of crimes that they committed. I guess because of the Black Lives Matter protests that had been occurring they thought they too could exercise their right to protest by attacking our government while it was in the process of carrying out the certification of the election results of designating President Biden as the winner. But for whatever reason they never stopped to consider how what they were doing was different from the Black Lives Matter marches.

I'm looking forward to seeing how they're going to defend this after having advertised their reasoning as a reduction of the federal workforce by half <wink wink>
 
So apparently the goal isn't just to cut out waste and save money, it's also to intimidate and terrify other people, in this case the federal workforce. Sadly, this is not news to me.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/27/busi...ex.html?iid=cnn_buildContentRecirc_end_recirc

CNN —​
When President-elect Donald Trump said Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy would recommend major cuts to the federal government in his administration, many public employees knew that their jobs could be on the line.​
Now they have a new fear: becoming the personal targets of the world’s richest man – and his legions of followers.​
Last week, in the midst of the flurry of his daily missives, Musk reposted two X posts that revealed the names and titles of people holding four relatively obscure climate-related government positions. Each post has been viewed tens of millions of times, and the individuals named have been subjected to a barrage of negative attention. At least one of the four women named has deleted her social media accounts.​
Although the information he posted on those government positions is available through public online databases, these posts target otherwise unknown government employees in roles that do not deal directly with the public.​

Several current federal employees told CNN they’re afraid their lives will be forever changed – including physically threatened – as Musk makes behind-the-scenes bureaucrats into personal targets. Others told CNN that the threat of being in Musk’s crosshairs might even drive them from their jobs entirely – achieving Musk’s smaller government goals without so much as a proper review.​
“These tactics are aimed at sowing terror and fear at federal employees,” said Everett Kelley, president of the American Federation of Government Employees, which represents more than 800,000 of the 2.3 million civilian federal employees. “It’s intended to make them fearful that they will become afraid to speak up.”​
This isn’t new behavior for Musk, who has often singled out individuals who he claims have made mistakes or stand in his way. One former federal employee, previously targeted by Musk, said she experienced something very similar.​
“It’s his way of intimidating people to either quit or also send a signal to all the other agencies that ‘you’re next’,” said Mary “Missy” Cummings, an engineering and computer science professor at George Mason University, who drew Musk’s ire because of her criticisms of Tesla when she was at the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.​

Going dark after attacks​

Last week Musk reposted an account with the handle Fentasyl and the name “Datahazard,” which describes itself as “Unincorporated Think Tank ~~ Focus: Govt Efficiency, Civil Rights, Victim Advocacy.”​
One of the posts reads: “I don’t think the US taxpayers should pay for the employment of a ’Director of Climate Diversification (she/her)’ at the US International Development Finance Corporation,” with a partial screengrab of an employee and her location.​
Musk, who called himself “super pro climate” in an X post last year, reposted and commented: “So many fake jobs.” The post has received more than 33 million views and a storm of negative comments. Some called the role a “fraud job” and others demanded Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency cut jobs like it. One user commented: “Gravy train is over.”​
It appears the woman Musk targeted has since gone dark on social media, shutting down her accounts. The agency, the US International Development Finance Corporation, says it supports investment in climate mitigation, resilience and adaptation in low-income countries experiencing the most devastating effects of climate change. A DFC official said the agency does not comment on individual personnel positions or matters.​
Related articleRemote work crackdown: How Trump’s DOGE could push federal workers to quit​

Musk also called out the Department of Energy’s chief climate officer in its loan programs office. The office funds fledgling energy technologies in need of early investment and awarded $465 million to Tesla Motors in 2010, helping to position Musk’s electric vehicle company as an EV industry leader. The chief climate officer works across agencies to “reduce barriers and enable clean energy deployment” according to her online bio.​
Another woman, who serves as senior advisor on environmental justice and climate change at the Department of Health and Human Services, was another Musk target. HHS focuses on protecting the public health from pollution and other environmental hazards, especially in low-income communities and communities of color that are experiencing a higher share of exposures and impacts. The office first launched at Health and Human Services under the Biden administration in 2022.​
A senior adviser to climate at the Department of Housing and Urban Development was also singled out. The original X post said the woman “should not be paid $181,648.00 by the US taxpayer to be the ‘Climate advisor’ at HUD.” Musk reposted with the comment: “But maybe her advice is amazing.” Followed by two laughing emojis.​
CNN reached out to all four federal employees who either declined comment or were unable to be reached. CNN also reached out to HHS, DOE and HUD for comment.​
X did not respond to an email seeking comment.​
The AFGE public union pointed out that as a federal contractor, Musk himself has benefited from government programs, with $750 billion per year spent on federal contractors compared to about $200 billion for the civilian federal workforce. “We are a comparative steal, and we want to help clean it up too,” Kelley said.​

Putting people in harm’s way​

Musk has done this kind of thing before – and it’s led to real danger for the people named.​
Missy Cummings angered Musk when she was appointed a senior advisor at the NHTSA because her research and public comments were critical of Tesla’s driver-assist programs and she had called for regulating the systems.​
Musk targeted Cummings on what was then called Twitter, and his legions of fans followed.​
In an interview, Cummings said she received a torrent of attacks, including death threats, and had to temporarily relocate before she eventually moved.​
Cummings said she already knows of federal employees who “have dedicated their lives to civil service,” already quitting their jobs in anticipation of what’s to come.​
“He intended for them, for people just like this, to be intimidated and just go ahead and quit so he didn’t have to fire them. So his plan, to some extent, is working,” she said.​
CNN reached out to multiple experts and academics who specialize in cyber harassment, doxing and online abuse. But several declined to comment on the record for fear of themselves becoming Musk’s targets.​
“What has happened has an incredible and horrific chilling effect,” one of them said.​
Another said they are “not surprised” with Musk’s re-posts, adding they are an example of a “classic pattern” of cyber harassment.​
What do you think?2.3K comments have been posted​
Ramaswamy did not directly respond to questions about singling out individual federal employees but told CNN: “Most federal employees, like most human beings, are fundamentally good people and deserve to be treated with respect, but the real problem is the bureaucracy.”​
“Our opponent is not any particular individual. Our opponent is the bureaucracy,” he added.​
In a follow-up post, the Fentasyl account, which itself is anonymous, wrote: “It goes without saying that you should not harass someone solely because they hold a senior government plum job that should probably not exist,” the account posted. “But senior government officials are not mere rank-and-file employees. We deserve to know who is running our government & what they do.”​
Cummings, who was also one of the first female fighter pilots in the US Navy, said she felt an obligation to speak out.​
“Somebody has got to speak out,” she said. “I’m just not going to let him win on this point.”
So. Why the fuck is the largest employer in the US the Federal Government ?
 
Well, it was a stupid point.

The fact is we have just as many Federal employees in 2024 as we did in 1960, when government was a lot bigger and the country had a lot less people.



So the only way you get to a big number is if you count people who shouldn't be counted. Got it.

Not sure how you can slash the contractors, military personnel or USPS, those groups are working close to the bone now.



Thank goodness. I don't go to the hospital for 18th century medicine, I don't go to a restaurant for 18th Century food sanitation...
Thank goodness. I don't go to the hospital for 18th century medicine, I don't go to a restaurant for 18th Century food sanitation...

And we don't live in the 18th Century. If any of that shit happened today they would be roasted in the media and social networks and wouldn't last a week. We don't need the nanny state garbage you loons love so much anymore.
 
We get it. Layoffs are never fun, but most people in private industry have gone through at least one - and through no fault of their own - when the outfit they work for is operating in the red.

And Musk isn’t targeting PEOPLE. He is targeting roles that can be eliminated, with the work farmed out among others who remain. And from what I understand, they are talking about a generous termination offer.

They need to start getting their resumes out. It’s very possible that if they find a new job within several months, they will be better off when you factor in the severance money.
You generally don't get severance if you quit and not for all positions. And contrary to your beliefs Musk is and has targeted individuals, you'd know this is you had bother to read the article before commenting:

Missy Cummings angered Musk when she was appointed a senior advisor at the NHTSA because her research and public comments were critical of Tesla’s driver-assist programs and she had called for regulating the systems.
Musk targeted Cummings on what was then called Twitter, and his legions of fans followed.
In an interview, Cummings said she received a torrent of attacks, including death threats, and had to temporarily relocate before she eventually moved.​

 
Conflict of Interest Concerns

The situation involving the four federal employees mentioned by Elon Musk is primarily about climate change policy rather than budget cuts. Musk's public targeting of these individuals reflects his opposition to certain climate initiatives and regulations that they are involved in.

The situation does raise significant conflict of interest concerns regarding Elon Musk's relationship with the federal government and his business interests. Here are some key points to consider:

1. Government Contracts: Musk's companies, particularly Tesla and SpaceX, hold extensive contracts with the federal government. This creates a potential conflict when he publicly criticizes government policies or targets federal employees involved in those policies. His actions could be seen as attempts to influence regulations that directly affect his businesses.

2. Political Ties: Musk's ties to political figures, especially during the Trump administration, further complicate the situation. His involvement in government initiatives, such as being co-chair of a department focused on government efficiency, raises questions about whether his business interests could unduly influence public policy decisions.

3. Regulatory Oversight: If Musk were to gain a position of authority within the government, it could lead to a scenario where he is in charge of regulating the very industries in which he has significant financial stakes. This overlap creates a clear conflict of interest, as decisions made in a regulatory capacity could directly benefit his businesses.

4. Ethical Implications: The ethical implications of such conflicts are profound. They challenge the integrity of public service and raise concerns about accountability. When private interests intersect with public policy, it can undermine trust in government institutions and their ability to operate independently of corporate influence.

In summary, the dynamics between Musk's business interests and his interactions with the federal government indeed suggest a conflict of interest. This situation highlights the complexities of navigating the relationship between private sector leaders and public policy, especially in critical areas like climate change and regulatory oversight. :)

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