el paso changing picketing rules because of blm

[horselightning]

Lawsuit in BLM protest spurs change to city picketing ordinance - El Paso Matters

The El Paso City Council is changing its picketing ordinance after a lawsuit against the city was filed following a Black Lives Matter protest at Memorial Park in 2020 alleging violation of civil rights.

elpasomatters.org

its ok for blm to riot in el paso

 

[1srelluc]

Dem run city....My surprised face.

Come to that are there any major cities left in TX that is not dem-run?

 

[White 6]

Dem run city....My surprised face.

Come to that are there any major cities left in TX that is not dem-run?

Texas is a "Red State" due to how they turn out and vote in National Elections. Many down there are too dumb to know, it is more important to the way they actually live, vote in the local elections.

 

[monkrules]

They should make BLM picket next to garbage cans so their picketers will feel right at home.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

They should make BLM picket next to garbage cans so their picketers will feel right at home.

They will have a lot of company, because that is where the folks belong who have Trump signs all over their cars and homes. That bullshit belongs in the garbage can.

 

[pknopp]

She was charged with not having a permit to protest.

You are not required and you never have to get a permit to protest. Protesting is a protected free speech action as the city found out.

Cities do pass stuff like this all the time BUT they are not enforceable. You do not have to get the permission of those you protest to protest.

So trying to act like they still have the power they will enact new regulations that if not met, they acknowledge they will do nothing about.

I have been arguing this for years. You DO NOT have to get the governments permission to exercise your Constitutional rights.

 

[monkrules]

She was charged with not having a permit to protest.

You are not required and you never have to get a permit to protest. Protesting is a protected free speech action as the city found out.

Cities do pass stuff like this all the time BUT they are not enforceable. You do not have to get the permission of those you protest to protest.

I have been arguing this for years. You DO NOT have to get the governments permission to exercise your Constitutional rights.

Where, exactly does the Constitution say we have a "RIGHT" to "protest."

What is the EXACT wording? I can't remember reading such a statement in our Constitution.

 

[pknopp]

Where, exactly does the Constitution say we have a "RIGHT" to "protest."

What is the EXACT wording? I can't remember reading such a statement in our Constitution.

1st Amendment. It's in the article. Did you bother to read it?

The 2nd Amendment gives the people the right to take it even further if necessary.

 

[monkrules]

I'm not a constitutional scholar, and you don't sound like one, either. So it would be foolish to waste time in this thread arguing about something about which neither of us is an expert.

Some people assert that black riots are protected under A1. But the Constitution states that "peaceful assembly" is a right - not "rioting."

The circumstances have a huge bearing on how these "rights" are interpreted.

And, like it or not, our Constitution has areas that are vague, and were intentionally left open to interpretation. If it had not been written that way, it might well have NEVER been ratified, as So many parties had opposing interests.

As far as the 2nd Ammendment is concerned , I don't see how you connect that to any "right" to protest.

In any case, these arguments often get long and hairy. I don't have the time , or interest, to pursue this any further with you.

I was simply stating my disagreement with your blanket view of A1 and A2 regarding a "RIGHT" to "protest."

Have a nice day.

 

[pknopp]

I'm not a constitutional scholar, and you don't sound like one, either. So it would be foolish to waste time in this thread arguing about something about which neither of us is an expert.

Some people assert that black riots are protected under A1. But the Constitution states that "peaceful assembly" is a right - not "rioting."

We were discussing protests. If you wish to change the discussion, well.......I'll take it you concede my point and we can from there.

The circumstances have a huge bearing on how these "rights" are interpreted.

And, like it or not, our Constitution has areas that are vague, and we're purposely left open to interpretation. If it had not been written that way, it might well have NEVER been ratified, as So many parties had opposing interests.

As far as the 2nd Ammendment is concerned , I don't see how you connect that to any "roght" to protest.

In any case, these arguments often get long and hairy. I don't have the time , or interest, to pursue this with you.

Iwas simply stating my disagreement with your blanket view of A1 and A2 regarding a "RIGHT" to "protest."

Have a nice day.

I really don't care if you believe it or not. The city backed down as they knew they were wrong.

 

[monkrules]

We were discussing protests. If you wish to change the discussion, well.......I'll take it you concede my point and we can from there.



I really don't care if you believe it or not. The city backed down as they knew they were wrong.

"Concede!"

What a joke. Man, you are SO freaking full of yourself. You're so insecure that you just HAVE to feel you won some small point.

Grow up. Lol...


Oh yeah, and...have a nice dsy. I really mean it

 

[insolent imp]

She was charged with not having a permit to protest.

You are not required and you never have to get a permit to protest. Protesting is a protected free speech action as the city found out.

Cities do pass stuff like this all the time BUT they are not enforceable. You do not have to get the permission of those you protest to protest.

So trying to act like they still have the power they will enact new regulations that if not met, they acknowledge they will do nothing about.

I have been arguing this for years. You DO NOT have to get the governments permission to exercise your Constitutional rights.

wanna bet?

 

[insolent imp]

Where, exactly does the Constitution say we have a "RIGHT" to "protest."

What is the EXACT wording? I can't remember reading such a statement in our Constitution.

First Amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. 435 U.S. at 798.

 

[insolent imp]

I'm not a constitutional scholar, and you don't sound like one, either. So it would be foolish to waste time in this thread arguing about something about which neither of us is an expert.

Some people assert that black riots are protected under A1. But the Constitution states that "peaceful assembly" is a right - not "rioting."

The circumstances have a huge bearing on how these "rights" are interpreted.

And, like it or not, our Constitution has areas that are vague, and were intentionally left open to interpretation. If it had not been written that way, it might well have NEVER been ratified, as So many parties had opposing interests.

As far as the 2nd Ammendment is concerned , I don't see how you connect that to any "right" to protest.

In any case, these arguments often get long and hairy. I don't have the time , or interest, to pursue this any further with you.

I was simply stating my disagreement with your blanket view of A1 and A2 regarding a "RIGHT" to "protest."

Have a nice day.

if you take away the first amendment then folks will use the second amendment to fix the problem.

 

[monkrules]

First Amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. 435 U.S. at 798.

I have my copy of the Constitution on my booksheif, about 10 feet away. But hey, thanks.

I stand by post #9.

 

[insolent imp]

I have my copy of the Constitution on my booksheif, about 10 feet away. But hey, thanks.

I stand by post #9.

then for God's sake take it down and read it.

 

[horselightning]

First Amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. 435 U.S. at 798.

which doesnt include committing crimes like burninnjg , looting. murder an d blocking streets.

 

[insolent imp]

which doesnt include committing crimes like burninnjg , looting. murder an d blocking streets.

yep
unlawful assembly

 

[horselightning]

yep
unlawful assembly

to blm doesnt get it. i forgot truspassing too and vandolizing.

 

[insolent imp]

to blm doesnt get it. i forgot truspassing too and vandolizing.

A lot of folks don't get it