Eight years after Trayvon Martin, another 17-year-old is killed in a Sanford, Florida, stand your ground case

[gipper]

bluzman61, what specifically do you dislike about this news article?

Very good question.
In fact, the dislike option is about the dumbest, most childishly petulant feature of this site.

Bluzzy likes it.

 

[Sunni Man]

Any time I see a post like this, it is only logical to assume an IQ of less than 70.

This is just a friendly discussion. There is no reason to be rude. ...

 

[Norman]

Any time I see a post like this, it is only logical to assume an IQ of less than 70.

This is just a friendly discussion. There is no reason to be rude. ...

It's not a friendly discussion if you continue to spread the lies the enemy of the people are spreading.

 

[Sunni Man]

It's not a friendly discussion if you continue to spread the lies the enemy of the people are spreading.

Everyone knows that black people don't go jogging. If they are running, they are up to no good. ...

 

[Marion Morrison]

I was indicating just last night in a thread regarding the killing of Ahmud Abery in Georgia that Texas is the only state that I'm aware of that allows shooting someone to protect property and then only under a very specific set of circumstances.

Again we find that the shooter in this case originally claimed to have acted in a manner which is contrary to what the law allows. Thank God for that documentation which is as I understand it, heard in the 911 call.

By the way, the attorney representing the family of the 17 year old is the same attorney who represented George Zimmerman in his criminal trial

The family of a black 17-year-old fatally shot in the back by a homeowner during an alleged car break-in in Sanford, Florida, has hired Mark O'Mara, the attorney who represented George Zimmerman, the lawyer said.

Zimmerman shot and killed another 17-year-old, Trayvon Martin, in the same city in 2012. He was acquitted of all charges after claiming self-defense.

In the new case O'Mara has taken, he is representing the family of Adrein Green, who was killed before 2 a.m. Tuesday after, police say, he attempted to burglarize a vehicle in a gated community.

The homeowner was on the phone with a 911 operator reporting a possible home burglary when he fired two shots at Green, which can be heard on the 911 call released by police.

2014: Young black men can get justice, O'Mara says. 03:05

Officers found Green unresponsive on a road near the home, police say. They performed CPR, but Green died at the hospital from "an apparent single gunshot wound to his back," Sanford Police Chief Cecil Smith said at a news conference.

Evidence at the scene shows Green tried to break into one of the homeowner's vehicles, Smith said.

The homeowner wasn't arrested because he was justified in using deadly force when Green allegedly engaged in a "forcible felony," said Assistant State Attorney Dan Faggard with the 18th Judicial Circuit.

The homeowner told police he feared for his life and for the lives of his wife and baby, Faggard said. Authorities have not publicly identified the homeowner.

Under Florida law, a person can use deadly force if she or he "believes that such conduct is necessary to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony."

The person using deadly force "does not have a duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground if the person using or threatening to use the deadly force is not engaged in a criminal activity and is in a place where he or she has a right to be," the law states.

O'Mara contested the prosecutor's claim, saying the homeowner says in the 911 call that he fired his weapon to scare Green off of his property.

"They weren't shooting in fear of personal safety," O'Mara told CNN. "In this case, it's pretty clear, in my opinion, you aren't allowed to shoot someone because they are breaking into your car."

The investigation is ongoing, State Attorney Phil Archer's office said in a statement, and once a final determination is made it will be announced publicly.

Florida's stand your ground law was a topic of debate in the Zimmerman case, as well as in the cases of Michael Dunn, who killed Jordan Davis, 17, during a 2012 argument over loud music in Jacksonville, and Michael Drejka, who killed Markeis McGlockton after McGlockton pushed him in a 2018 confrontation over a handicapped parking space in Clearwater.

Like Zimmerman, Dunn forewent a stand your ground defense and argued the shooting was in self-defense. Dunn was convicted of murder, Drejka of manslaughter. Both are in prison.
Eight years after Trayvon Martin, another 17-year-old is killed in a Sanford, Florida, stand your ground case

Well, the boy shouldn't have been breaking into cars, but I don't think gunning him down is a proper response. At least give him a warning shot!
Aye man?! Da fuq you doin'? POW! Right by his his leg..Get the fuck outta here! Then if he charges me, he's dead.

 

[Norman]

It's not a friendly discussion if you continue to spread the lies the enemy of the people are spreading.

Everyone knows that black people don't go jogging. If they are running, they are up to no good. ...

Grown man is with the #IRobWithArbery crowd? Incredible...

Very cucked up people.

 

[Sunni Man]

Personally, if I saw a black man running (jogging) thru my neighborhood I would call the police. I might get in my car and follow him from a distance while talking to 9/11 just to keep tracking him until the authorities arrive.
Some people would try to make this into a racial issue. I just see it as a community safety issue. ...

 

[Marion Morrison]

Personally, if I saw a black man running (jogging) thru my neighborhood I would call the police. I might get in my car and follow him from a distance while talking to 9/11 just to keep tracking him until the authorities arrive.
Some people would try to make this into a racial issue. I just see it as a community safety issue. ...

Stahp!

 

[Tijn Von Ingersleben]

As with Trayvon, the boot jogger, and the "I can't breeve" guy, the truth always comes out. This little ghetto fence climber will be no different...I am sure.

 

[Marion Morrison]

I don't see this as as a stand your ground case at all.

 

[Tijn Von Ingersleben]

Personally, if I saw a black man running (jogging) thru my neighborhood I would call the police. I might get in my car and follow him from a distance while talking to 9/11 just to keep tracking him until the authorities arrive.
Some people would try to make this into a racial issue. I just see it as a community safety issue. ...

Exactly, blacks don't 'jog'. They move quickly AWAY from things like gunfire, dogs, and the police.

 

[Mac-7]

Being opposed to shooting people who are running away from a minor crime is not condoning such crime, it is being opposed to a much greater crime.

This was not murder

if you go out onto the night to steal the risk of death is on you

the homeowner has every right to defend his property

 

[Sunni Man]

I'm sure the so called jogger was just about to enter Harvard next semester, but that still doesn't give him the right to run thru an all white neighborhood without raising suspicion. ...

 

[Mac-7]

QUESTION:

Do you understand what SELF DEFENSE means?

The Arbery defenders seem to have MAJOR TROUBLE with the concept.

#IRobWIthArbery

I most certainly do. Do you understand the difference between shooting to protect property and shooting to defend your own life or the life of another? I'll give ou a hint, only one has to do with the SELF-defense laws.

In this case it was not Stand-Your-Ground law but the Castle law

the homeowner was defending his property

 

[Meathead]

QUESTION:

Do you understand what SELF DEFENSE means?

The Arbery defenders seem to have MAJOR TROUBLE with the concept.

#IRobWIthArbery

I most certainly do. Do you understand the difference between shooting to protect property and shooting to defend your own life or the life of another? I'll give ou a hint, only one has to do with the SELF-defense laws.

In this case it was not Stand-Your-Ground law but the Castle law

the homeowner was defending his property

Yes, but we are expected to stand down when thugs threaten or rob us. This is the progressive way.

 

[Sunni Man]

Exactly, blacks don't 'jog'. They move quickly AWAY from things like gunfire, dogs, and the police.

Which is the reason you don't see any blacks as drivers in NASCAR.
Because whenever they are in a wreck, they take off running. ...

 

[there4eyeM]

bluzman61, what specifically do you dislike about this news article?

Very good question.
In fact, the dislike option is about the dumbest, most childishly petulant feature of this site.

As is readily confirmed.

 

[bluzman61]

bluzman61, what specifically do you dislike about this news article?

It sucks? And it glorifies and excuses the actions of BLACK THUGS. Thank you.

 

[Godboy]

I was indicating just last night in a thread regarding the killing of Ahmud Abery in Georgia that Texas is the only state that I'm aware of that allows shooting someone to protect property and then only under a very specific set of circumstances.

Again we find that the shooter in this case originally claimed to have acted in a manner which is contrary to what the law allows. Thank God for that documentation which is as I understand it, heard in the 911 call.

By the way, the attorney representing the family of the 17 year old is the same attorney who represented George Zimmerman in his criminal trial

The family of a black 17-year-old fatally shot in the back by a homeowner during an alleged car break-in in Sanford, Florida, has hired Mark O'Mara, the attorney who represented George Zimmerman, the lawyer said.

Zimmerman shot and killed another 17-year-old, Trayvon Martin, in the same city in 2012. He was acquitted of all charges after claiming self-defense.

In the new case O'Mara has taken, he is representing the family of Adrein Green, who was killed before 2 a.m. Tuesday after, police say, he attempted to burglarize a vehicle in a gated community.

The homeowner was on the phone with a 911 operator reporting a possible home burglary when he fired two shots at Green, which can be heard on the 911 call released by police.

2014: Young black men can get justice, O'Mara says. 03:05

Officers found Green unresponsive on a road near the home, police say. They performed CPR, but Green died at the hospital from "an apparent single gunshot wound to his back," Sanford Police Chief Cecil Smith said at a news conference.

Evidence at the scene shows Green tried to break into one of the homeowner's vehicles, Smith said.

The homeowner wasn't arrested because he was justified in using deadly force when Green allegedly engaged in a "forcible felony," said Assistant State Attorney Dan Faggard with the 18th Judicial Circuit.

The homeowner told police he feared for his life and for the lives of his wife and baby, Faggard said. Authorities have not publicly identified the homeowner.

Under Florida law, a person can use deadly force if she or he "believes that such conduct is necessary to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony."

The person using deadly force "does not have a duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground if the person using or threatening to use the deadly force is not engaged in a criminal activity and is in a place where he or she has a right to be," the law states.

O'Mara contested the prosecutor's claim, saying the homeowner says in the 911 call that he fired his weapon to scare Green off of his property.

"They weren't shooting in fear of personal safety," O'Mara told CNN. "In this case, it's pretty clear, in my opinion, you aren't allowed to shoot someone because they are breaking into your car."

The investigation is ongoing, State Attorney Phil Archer's office said in a statement, and once a final determination is made it will be announced publicly.

Florida's stand your ground law was a topic of debate in the Zimmerman case, as well as in the cases of Michael Dunn, who killed Jordan Davis, 17, during a 2012 argument over loud music in Jacksonville, and Michael Drejka, who killed Markeis McGlockton after McGlockton pushed him in a 2018 confrontation over a handicapped parking space in Clearwater.

Like Zimmerman, Dunn forewent a stand your ground defense and argued the shooting was in self-defense. Dunn was convicted of murder, Drejka of manslaughter. Both are in prison.
Eight years after Trayvon Martin, another 17-year-old is killed in a Sanford, Florida, stand your ground case

No one cares when criminals die. When are you people going to understand that?

 

[Tijn Von Ingersleben]

QUESTION:

Do you understand what SELF DEFENSE means?

The Arbery defenders seem to have MAJOR TROUBLE with the concept.

#IRobWIthArbery

I most certainly do. Do you understand the difference between shooting to protect property and shooting to defend your own life or the life of another? I'll give ou a hint, only one has to do with the SELF-defense laws.

In this case it was not Stand-Your-Ground law but the Castle law

the homeowner was defending his property

Yes, but we are expected to stand down when thugs threaten or rob us. This is the progressive way.

First rule: The white man is racist.

Second Rule: The white 'system' is racist.

Third Rule: Therefore all actions are in repulsion of an inherently evil system and people.

Just wait till YOU are the minority white people. Do you think those opinions will go away?