During Meeting With Putin Trump Surrenders Humiliating Himself And The Country

[cnelsen]

Your response is not serious

It is based on rightwing hysteria and paranoia

Then why not refute it directly rather than name-call motives?

Refute something that does not exist?

Burden of proof is on you my little friend

 

[Correll]

I have repeatedly explained, in the simple terms one would use with a slow witted child, how your claim is incorrect.


I cannot dumb it down any more for you.

YOu are being as asshole.

No. you are just embarrassed to realize you really are just another conspiracy nut. You can't have it both ways. A so called deep state including an entire class of people (your words) is a conspiracy by definition.

I have posted the definition of conspiracy for you and anyone that can read english can see that it is not.


The actions of the intelligence agencies have given real strong support to the Deep State theory and it is not something that anyone not a dishonest asshole can just dismiss anymore.

A claim like that begs for a credible link. Breitbart, or Alex Jones links on't be acceptably credible.

So, you've missed all the leaks and the testimony of Comey?

Then it should be easy to come up with a link. Comey didn't leak anything. He had every right to release anything he released.

The word "and" was used to point out that Comey's behavior was evidence in addition to the leaks.

See number 2.


and
and,(ə)n/
conjunction

1. 1.
   used to connect words of the same part of speech, clauses, or sentences that are to be taken jointly.
   "bread and butter"
   synonyms: together with, along with, with, as well as, in addition to, also; More
2. 2.
   used to introduce an additional comment or interjection.
   "if it came to a choice—and this was the worst thing—she would turn her back on her parents"

 

[BULLDOG]

No. you are just embarrassed to realize you really are just another conspiracy nut. You can't have it both ways. A so called deep state including an entire class of people (your words) is a conspiracy by definition.

I have posted the definition of conspiracy for you and anyone that can read english can see that it is not.


The actions of the intelligence agencies have given real strong support to the Deep State theory and it is not something that anyone not a dishonest asshole can just dismiss anymore.

A claim like that begs for a credible link. Breitbart, or Alex Jones links on't be acceptably credible.

So, you've missed all the leaks and the testimony of Comey?

Then it should be easy to come up with a link. Comey didn't leak anything. He had every right to release anything he released.

The word "and" was used to point out that Comey's behavior was evidence in addition to the leaks.

See number 2.


and
and,(ə)n/
conjunction

1. 1.
   used to connect words of the same part of speech, clauses, or sentences that are to be taken jointly.
   "bread and butter"
   synonyms: together with, along with, with, as well as, in addition to, also; More
2. 2.
   used to introduce an additional comment or interjection.
   "if it came to a choice—and this was the worst thing—she would turn her back on her parents"

Yes, I recognize the word "and".----------- Your point?

 

[Correll]

I have posted the definition of conspiracy for you and anyone that can read english can see that it is not.


The actions of the intelligence agencies have given real strong support to the Deep State theory and it is not something that anyone not a dishonest asshole can just dismiss anymore.

A claim like that begs for a credible link. Breitbart, or Alex Jones links on't be acceptably credible.

So, you've missed all the leaks and the testimony of Comey?

Then it should be easy to come up with a link. Comey didn't leak anything. He had every right to release anything he released.

The word "and" was used to point out that Comey's behavior was evidence in addition to the leaks.

See number 2.


and
and,(ə)n/
conjunction

1. 1.
   used to connect words of the same part of speech, clauses, or sentences that are to be taken jointly.
   "bread and butter"
   synonyms: together with, along with, with, as well as, in addition to, also; More
2. 2.
   used to introduce an additional comment or interjection.
   "if it came to a choice—and this was the worst thing—she would turn her back on her parents"

Yes, I recognize the word "and".----------- Your point?

I was helping you understand my previous point, that you obvious misunderstand when you denied that Comey leaked.

 

[cnelsen]

That might be the wrong way to describe what happened, but they did steal information, and release it along with coordinated fake news stories in an effort to influence our elections.

Oh my goodness. I don't think you are even allowed to get a driver's license in Israel unless you've already done 200 hours of that in American elections for Israel. Christ, we have whole agencies whose only job is that. And Trump is a "traitor" for not nuking Russia for it?

Foreign governments interfering with our elections is against our laws and threatens our sovereignty

You are right. I wonder why Israel and Mexico both do it with impunity.

If you have evidence of that, you should notify Mueller.

No, reread what I wrote, particularly the bit about impunity.

 

[sealybobo]

This Is What A Surrender Monkey Looks Like

After the Russians pwned Donald Trump once again, in public, and basically laid claim to the US while Trump rolled over and played dead, Morgan Finkelstein, the Press Secretary for the liberal Center for American Progress Action Fund, said that Trump just surrendered to Russia on election interference.

“Trump just unilaterally surrendered to Russia on election interference,” Finkelstein said in a memo send to PoliticusUSA, in which Finkelstein likened the meeting between the two leaders to a “good first Tinder date.”

“After a bilateral meeting that sounded like a good first Tinder date, based on the official readout, Trump is rewarding Putin’s egregious behavior by giving Putin the platform he so desperately craves without getting anything in return. Trump is unilaterally surrendering American sovereignty and the right to fair elections free of foreign interference.”

They highlighted this from the readout of the meeting (which, by the way, was just sent to PoliticusUSA, after the off-camera briefing and delayed audio demand by the Trump administration), in which Tillerson told the press that the President focused on moving forward since “it’s not clear to me that we will ever come to some agreed upon resolution of that question between the two nations so the question is what do we do now. And I think the relationship – and the president made this clear as well – is too important and it’s too important to not find a way to move forward.”

Q: “On the US election, could you spell out any consequences the Russians will face?”

Tillerson: “The president took note of actions that have been discussed by the Congress, most recently additional sanctions that have been voted out of the Senate to make it clear as to the seriousness of the issue. But I think what the two presidents – I think rightly – focused on is how do we move forward, how do we move forward from here? Because it’s not clear to me that we will ever come to some agreed upon resolution of that question between the two nations so the question is what do we do now.

And I think the relationship – and the president made this clear as well – is too important and it’s too important to not find a way to move forward. Not dismissing the issue in any way, and I don’t want to leave you with that impression. And that is why we agreed to continue engagement and discussion around how do we secure a commitment that the Russian government has no intention of and will not interfere in our affairs in the future, nor the affairs of others.

And how do we create a framework in which we have some capability to judge what is happening in the cyber world and who to hold accountable. And this is obviously an issue that’s broader than just U.S.-Russia, but we certainly see the manifestations of that in the events of last year. Again, I think the president is rightly focused on how do we move forward from what may be simply an intractable disagreement at this point.”

Note the question was what consequences will Russia face, and the answer is basically none unless Congress does it.

Sure, that might seem plausible, until we recall that President Obama left behind a good start on a time bomb Trump could deploy if he wished. Trump does not wish, it seems.

“It makes you wonder: what does Putin have on Trump that could make Trump act like a supplicant on the international stage? How deep in trouble is Trump that he couldn’t even perform the most basic task – asking Putin not to interfere in our elections?” Finkelstein asked, adding, “Trump’s unwillingness to put up a fight speaks volumes about what could be in Putin’s arsenal against him.”

The darkness surrounding the Trump administration’s trickle of information should be contrasted with the Russian foreign minister who talked on live TV about the meeting between the two leaders, claiming that Trump accepted Putin’s assertion that Moscow was not involved in the hacking of the 2016 election.

The Trump administration both forced the briefing to be off camera and put a delayed audio demand on the briefing. This is not normal. As I wrote earlier, this is called rolling over.

Finkelstein made a good point asking why, exactly, Trump would be willing to be humiliated like this on the international stage.

After "Good Tinder Date" with Putin, Trump "Unilaterally Surrendered" to Russia

America has been caught spying on our allies. We all know Russia meddled. No one's going to do anything about the collusion. We still haven't seen his taxes....

 

[BULLDOG]

A claim like that begs for a credible link. Breitbart, or Alex Jones links on't be acceptably credible.

So, you've missed all the leaks and the testimony of Comey?

Then it should be easy to come up with a link. Comey didn't leak anything. He had every right to release anything he released.

The word "and" was used to point out that Comey's behavior was evidence in addition to the leaks.

See number 2.


and
and,(ə)n/
conjunction

1. 1.
   used to connect words of the same part of speech, clauses, or sentences that are to be taken jointly.
   "bread and butter"
   synonyms: together with, along with, with, as well as, in addition to, also; More
2. 2.
   used to introduce an additional comment or interjection.
   "if it came to a choice—and this was the worst thing—she would turn her back on her parents"

Yes, I recognize the word "and".----------- Your point?

I was helping you understand my previous point, that you obvious misunderstand when you denied that Comey leaked.

If you say so. Comey had information released. Information that he had every right, legal and otherwise, to release. Leaking implies so much more than what happened. Of course, if you have a credible link showing he broke some kind of law doing so, I will be happy to admit I'm wrong.

 

[BULLDOG]

That might be the wrong way to describe what happened, but they did steal information, and release it along with coordinated fake news stories in an effort to influence our elections.

Oh my goodness. I don't think you are even allowed to get a driver's license in Israel unless you've already done 200 hours of that in American elections for Israel. Christ, we have whole agencies whose only job is that. And Trump is a "traitor" for not nuking Russia for it?

Foreign governments interfering with our elections is against our laws and threatens our sovereignty

You are right. I wonder why Israel and Mexico both do it with impunity.

If you have evidence of that, you should notify Mueller.

No, reread what I wrote, particularly the bit about impunity.

I read what you wrote.

 

[Correll]

So, you've missed all the leaks and the testimony of Comey?

Then it should be easy to come up with a link. Comey didn't leak anything. He had every right to release anything he released.

The word "and" was used to point out that Comey's behavior was evidence in addition to the leaks.

See number 2.


and
and,(ə)n/
conjunction

1. 1.
   used to connect words of the same part of speech, clauses, or sentences that are to be taken jointly.
   "bread and butter"
   synonyms: together with, along with, with, as well as, in addition to, also; More
2. 2.
   used to introduce an additional comment or interjection.
   "if it came to a choice—and this was the worst thing—she would turn her back on her parents"

Yes, I recognize the word "and".----------- Your point?

I was helping you understand my previous point, that you obvious misunderstand when you denied that Comey leaked.

If you say so. Comey had information released. Information that he had every right, legal and otherwise, to release. Leaking implies so much more than what happened. Of course, if you have a credible link showing he broke some kind of law doing so, I will be happy to admit I'm wrong.

Comey's actions showed a man who saw the President as illegitimate, despite him being duly elected.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Comey's actions showed a man who saw the President as illegitimate, despite him being duly elected.

Orange Dork Trump wanted a Revolution against Obama even though Obama was duly elected with huge margins in the Popular Vote

 

[BULLDOG]

Then it should be easy to come up with a link. Comey didn't leak anything. He had every right to release anything he released.

The word "and" was used to point out that Comey's behavior was evidence in addition to the leaks.

See number 2.


and
and,(ə)n/
conjunction

1. 1.
   used to connect words of the same part of speech, clauses, or sentences that are to be taken jointly.
   "bread and butter"
   synonyms: together with, along with, with, as well as, in addition to, also; More
2. 2.
   used to introduce an additional comment or interjection.
   "if it came to a choice—and this was the worst thing—she would turn her back on her parents"

Yes, I recognize the word "and".----------- Your point?

I was helping you understand my previous point, that you obvious misunderstand when you denied that Comey leaked.

If you say so. Comey had information released. Information that he had every right, legal and otherwise, to release. Leaking implies so much more than what happened. Of course, if you have a credible link showing he broke some kind of law doing so, I will be happy to admit I'm wrong.

Comey's actions showed a man who saw the President as illegitimate, despite him being duly elected.

If Comey thinks that, he is only one of millions that do. As far as I know, that belief is not illegal.

 

[Correll]

The word "and" was used to point out that Comey's behavior was evidence in addition to the leaks.

See number 2.


and
and,(ə)n/
conjunction

1. 1.
   used to connect words of the same part of speech, clauses, or sentences that are to be taken jointly.
   "bread and butter"
   synonyms: together with, along with, with, as well as, in addition to, also; More
2. 2.
   used to introduce an additional comment or interjection.
   "if it came to a choice—and this was the worst thing—she would turn her back on her parents"

Yes, I recognize the word "and".----------- Your point?

I was helping you understand my previous point, that you obvious misunderstand when you denied that Comey leaked.

If you say so. Comey had information released. Information that he had every right, legal and otherwise, to release. Leaking implies so much more than what happened. Of course, if you have a credible link showing he broke some kind of law doing so, I will be happy to admit I'm wrong.

Comey's actions showed a man who saw the President as illegitimate, despite him being duly elected.

If Comey thinks that, he is only one of millions that do. As far as I know, that belief is not illegal.

Illegal? Depends how they act on that belief system.

If they leak classified data? Illegal.

If they undermine lawful orders from their superiors? Depends. But certainly NOT the way the government is supposed to work.

The People are supposed to be in charge, though their democraticly elected representatives.

THese faceless bureaucrats are supposed to be following orders, not trying to resist the policy of the President.

 

[BULLDOG]

Yes, I recognize the word "and".----------- Your point?

I was helping you understand my previous point, that you obvious misunderstand when you denied that Comey leaked.

If you say so. Comey had information released. Information that he had every right, legal and otherwise, to release. Leaking implies so much more than what happened. Of course, if you have a credible link showing he broke some kind of law doing so, I will be happy to admit I'm wrong.

Comey's actions showed a man who saw the President as illegitimate, despite him being duly elected.

If Comey thinks that, he is only one of millions that do. As far as I know, that belief is not illegal.

Illegal? Depends how they act on that belief system.

If they leak classified data? Illegal.

If they undermine lawful orders from their superiors? Depends. But certainly NOT the way the government is supposed to work.

The People are supposed to be in charge, though their democraticly elected representatives.

THese faceless bureaucrats are supposed to be following orders, not trying to resist the policy of the President.

Come up with proof of classified material being leaked, and you might have something. These faceless bureaucrats have an obligation to the country and the constitution, not that obese orange clown. If things worked like you think they should, we would have never heard about Watergate. You can't always follow orders and fulfill your obligation to the country at the same time.

 

[jasonnfree]

Putin owns him hook line and sinker.

Trump is now Putins Governor.

Russia wins.

Good. I'd rather Christian Russia rules us than Jewish Israel. At least Russia never purposely attacked one of our military ships, then strafed the lifeboats. USS Liberty Veterans Association

And yet, we went to full out war in Vietnam over an almost nothing incident in the Tonkin Gulf just a few years earlier. That war cost over 50,000 American lives. What did we do to Israel over the USS Liberty massacre? Nothing. It's not even allowed to be mentioned in the press.

 

[Marion Morrison]

This Is What A Surrender Monkey Looks Like

After the Russians pwned Donald Trump once again, in public, and basically laid claim to the US while Trump rolled over and played dead, Morgan Finkelstein, the Press Secretary for the liberal Center for American Progress Action Fund, said that Trump just surrendered to Russia on election interference.

“Trump just unilaterally surrendered to Russia on election interference,” Finkelstein said in a memo send to PoliticusUSA, in which Finkelstein likened the meeting between the two leaders to a “good first Tinder date.”

“After a bilateral meeting that sounded like a good first Tinder date, based on the official readout, Trump is rewarding Putin’s egregious behavior by giving Putin the platform he so desperately craves without getting anything in return. Trump is unilaterally surrendering American sovereignty and the right to fair elections free of foreign interference.”

They highlighted this from the readout of the meeting (which, by the way, was just sent to PoliticusUSA, after the off-camera briefing and delayed audio demand by the Trump administration), in which Tillerson told the press that the President focused on moving forward since “it’s not clear to me that we will ever come to some agreed upon resolution of that question between the two nations so the question is what do we do now. And I think the relationship – and the president made this clear as well – is too important and it’s too important to not find a way to move forward.”

Q: “On the US election, could you spell out any consequences the Russians will face?”

Tillerson: “The president took note of actions that have been discussed by the Congress, most recently additional sanctions that have been voted out of the Senate to make it clear as to the seriousness of the issue. But I think what the two presidents – I think rightly – focused on is how do we move forward, how do we move forward from here? Because it’s not clear to me that we will ever come to some agreed upon resolution of that question between the two nations so the question is what do we do now.

And I think the relationship – and the president made this clear as well – is too important and it’s too important to not find a way to move forward. Not dismissing the issue in any way, and I don’t want to leave you with that impression. And that is why we agreed to continue engagement and discussion around how do we secure a commitment that the Russian government has no intention of and will not interfere in our affairs in the future, nor the affairs of others.

And how do we create a framework in which we have some capability to judge what is happening in the cyber world and who to hold accountable. And this is obviously an issue that’s broader than just U.S.-Russia, but we certainly see the manifestations of that in the events of last year. Again, I think the president is rightly focused on how do we move forward from what may be simply an intractable disagreement at this point.”

Note the question was what consequences will Russia face, and the answer is basically none unless Congress does it.

Sure, that might seem plausible, until we recall that President Obama left behind a good start on a time bomb Trump could deploy if he wished. Trump does not wish, it seems.

“It makes you wonder: what does Putin have on Trump that could make Trump act like a supplicant on the international stage? How deep in trouble is Trump that he couldn’t even perform the most basic task – asking Putin not to interfere in our elections?” Finkelstein asked, adding, “Trump’s unwillingness to put up a fight speaks volumes about what could be in Putin’s arsenal against him.”

The darkness surrounding the Trump administration’s trickle of information should be contrasted with the Russian foreign minister who talked on live TV about the meeting between the two leaders, claiming that Trump accepted Putin’s assertion that Moscow was not involved in the hacking of the 2016 election.

The Trump administration both forced the briefing to be off camera and put a delayed audio demand on the briefing. This is not normal. As I wrote earlier, this is called rolling over.

Finkelstein made a good point asking why, exactly, Trump would be willing to be humiliated like this on the international stage.

After "Good Tinder Date" with Putin, Trump "Unilaterally Surrendered" to Russia

Your own article disputes your propaganda.

And I think the relationship – and the president made this clear as well – is too important and it’s too important to not find a way to move forward. Not dismissing the issue in any way, and I don’t want to leave you with that impression. And that is why we agreed to continue engagement and discussion around how do we secure a commitment that the Russian government has no intention of and will not interfere in our affairs in the future, nor the affairs of others.

You pathetic pussies just have to make shit up.


.

People are getting tired of it...

Thats to bad.

I haven't even gotten warmed up yet.

You are a disgrace to the country being a supporter of this traitor.

Prepare yourself for the coming shit storm.

Why, you gonna lose your shit? It looks like like that ship already sailed to me. I doubt you have any left.

 

[cnelsen]

It's so funny to see Republicans be such conspiracy nut jobs, and then in the next breath they can't accept what the Russians did.

What did the Russians do? Nothing we don't do ten times more of, and nothing Israel and Mexico don't do a hundred times more of.

 

[rightwinger]

Your response is not serious

It is based on rightwing hysteria and paranoia

Then why not refute it directly rather than name-call motives?

Refute something that does not exist?

Burden of proof is on you my little friend

Its da Jews!

They are everywhere

Even Trumps grandkids are jews

 

[rightwinger]

Then it should be easy to come up with a link. Comey didn't leak anything. He had every right to release anything he released.

The word "and" was used to point out that Comey's behavior was evidence in addition to the leaks.

See number 2.


and
and,(ə)n/
conjunction

1. 1.
   used to connect words of the same part of speech, clauses, or sentences that are to be taken jointly.
   "bread and butter"
   synonyms: together with, along with, with, as well as, in addition to, also; More
2. 2.
   used to introduce an additional comment or interjection.
   "if it came to a choice—and this was the worst thing—she would turn her back on her parents"

Yes, I recognize the word "and".----------- Your point?

I was helping you understand my previous point, that you obvious misunderstand when you denied that Comey leaked.

If you say so. Comey had information released. Information that he had every right, legal and otherwise, to release. Leaking implies so much more than what happened. Of course, if you have a credible link showing he broke some kind of law doing so, I will be happy to admit I'm wrong.

Comey's actions showed a man who saw the President as illegitimate, despite him being duly elected.

Comey correctly identified Trump as a person who will lie indiscriminately
He dealt with him accordingly

 

[cnelsen]

Your response is not serious

It is based on rightwing hysteria and paranoia

Then why not refute it directly rather than name-call motives?

Refute something that does not exist?

Burden of proof is on you my little friend

Its da Jews!

They are everywhere

Even Trumps grandkids are jews

"Where there is no anti-Semitism, there are no Jews." Theodor Herzl (Father of modern Zionism)
"The problem is never anti-semitism. The problem is always semitism." --- Boris.