Due Process??

[Lesh]

Trump doesn’t run El Salvador, Simp.

They are putting Biden’s terrorists in prison cuz they don’t want them on their streets either.

Trump is PAYING them to take these prisoners

 

[80zephyr]

Well the SCOTUS disagrees with you

Suck it up buttercup

You’re a nothing

They could disagree. They'd be wrong to do it though.

 

[Marener]

I have the wrong tattoos

View attachment 1098758

Nope. Definitely a gang tattoo.

 

[fncceo]

Trump is PAYING them to take these prisoners

Sounds like money well spent. Sometimes outsourcing is a good thing.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

The OP said there should be no hearing. I think that should be a problem.

Those hearings should take no longer than 5 minutes. Show your birth certificate you get to stay. No birth certificate or papers showing legal residence you get escorted right to the next plane out.

 

[80zephyr]

If I post something derogatory about our king here, or on any social media platform, off to CERCOT I go. You do not have to be here illegally.

Define illegally. If Biden signed an executive order giving them a green card or a visa, that means that any subsequent president can undo that order.

Biden was looking for permanence. He failed.

 

[Lesh]

Sounds like money well spent. Sometimes outsourcing is a good thing.

Ya know why Hitler put the death camps in Poland?

So much easier to deny the horror if you can “outsource” it.

 

[80zephyr]

Ya know why Hitler put the death camps in Poland?

So much easier to deny the horror if you can “outsource” it.

Equating the innocent with hardened criminals is not a good look.

 

[fncceo]

Ya know why Hitler put the death camps in Poland?

So much easier to deny the horror if you can “outsource” it.

There are 6,000 years of recorded human history… why is everything Hitler with you guys?

 

[BackAgain]

Those hearings should take no longer than 5 minutes. Show your birth certificate you get to stay. No birth certificate or papers showing legal residence you get escorted right to the next plane out.

One of the cherished American notions of “justice” (which is a part of “due process”) is that the one making the accusation is the one who bears the burden of proof.

So, if someone were to arrest (actually detain) me for an immigration court “removal proceeding,” I shouldn’t have to ferret through my “files” to locate a copy of my birth certificate.

On the other hand, I don’t believe it would be all that difficult for the government to establish where i had been born and to which parents.

 

[Contumacious]

Well the SCOTUS disagrees with you

Suck it up buttercup

You’re a nothing

Excuse me Vern

Due Process of Law in immigration proceedings is a STATUTORY ***NOT***A Constitutional Right


"Although noncitizens are entitled to due process of law, they “must in the first instance possess a liberty or property interest.” Valencia-Alvarez v. Gonzales, 469 F.3d 1319, 1330 n.13 (9th Cir. 2006). If a noncitizen was never eligible for the discretionary relief sought, then he does not have a liberty or property interest that can be affected. See id. (rejecting due process claim that 8 U.S.C. § 1229b(d)(1)(B) as applied to petitioner’s case denied him due process because he was not eligible for discretionary relief, and thus had no liberty or property interest); see also Mendoza-Linares v. Garland, 51 F.4th 1146, 1167 (9th Cir. 2022), petition for cert. pending, No 23-606 (docketed Dec. 6, 2023) (mandate not issued as of Feb. 10, 2024) (“[A]ny rights [petitioner] may have in regard to removal or admission are purely statutory in nature and are not derived from, or protected by, the Constitution’s Due Process Clause.”); Sandoval-Luna v. Mukasey, 526 F.3d 1243, 1247 (9th Cir. 2008) (per curiam). The denial of discretionary relief cannot violate a substantive due process interest because discretionary relief is a privilege created by Congress. See Lim v. Holder, 710 F.3d 1074, 1076 (9th Cir. 2013) (“Cancellation of removal is a form of discretionary relief which does not give rise to a substantive interest protected by the Due Process Clause.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

One of the cherished American notions of “justice” (which is a part of “due process”) is that the one making the accusation is the one who bears the burden of proof.

So, if someone were to arrest (actually detain) me for an immigration court “removal proceeding,” I shouldn’t have to ferret through my “files” to locate a copy of my birth certificate.

On the other hand, I don’t believe it would be all that difficult for the government to establish where i had been born and to which parents.

Being accused doesn’t mean you don’t have to provide information to show innocence. You still have to counter the accusation. If you have the documents it can be cleared up in a few minutes.

 

[Nostra]

Trump is PAYING them to take these prisoners

Saving American taxpayers millions more.

Nice job, President Trump!

 

[Lesh]

There are 6,000 years of recorded human history… why is everything Hitler with you guys?

If the shoe fits

 

[BackAgain]

Being accused doesn’t mean you don’t have to provide information to show innocence.

Wrong. Being accused “often” means you have a right to silent. I’m guessing you must have read that — oh — somewhere.

You still have to counter the accusation.

Because? Other than your posting empty claims, what’s your authority for that one?

If you have the documents it can be cleared up in a few minutes.

Maybe. But what if I lost my documents?

And who compels me to assist you?

The big difference is that in a criminal case (which Immigration “Court” deportation cases are not) we all know about our right to remain silent. But what is the basis for your claim that such a rule does not apply IN immigration Court?

 

[BluesLegend]

Riiiiight Dems are concerned about the law and due process. You know, after completely ignoring immigration laws and helping millions of illegals to break the law.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Due process, for what? Telling an illegal immigrant they are not welcome and escorting them out of the country is not in any way, shape, or form worthy of due process.

If they are not charged with anything, they should be able to be escorted out without any type of hearing.

Title 8 is a thing, though. Slow, but it respects the process. They can hold batch hearings if they need to.

 

[buttercup]

I don’t know. Maybe you can tell us when we ship you there.

People need to be very careful what they wish for.

That clearly isn't happening, though, with some here.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Wrong. Being accused “often” means you have a right to silent. I’m guessing you must have read that — oh — somewhere.

Because? Other than your posting empty claims, what’s your authority for that one?

Maybe. But what if I lost my documents?

And who compels me to assist you?

The big difference is that in a criminal case (which Immigration “Court” deportation cases are not) we all know about our right to remain silent. But what is the basis for your claim that such a rule does not apply IN immigration Court?

We don’t give legal immigrants the paperwork so they don’t have to keep it handy. You keep your ID on you in case you get pulled over and need it right?

These are simple cases, if you’re here and can’t prove you’re here legally you get deported.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

If the shoe fits

The Sane Do Not See Nazi

That worked for Cinderella, never for the Godwin GOTCHA!!! Goons.