Due Process??

[BackAgain]

Yes it is a court.

No. It isn’t. Our courts are a separate branch of government and come under Article III.

Our so-called “immigration Courts” are not Article III “courts.” They are Administrative. They are under the Executive Branch.

Immigration Court Information

www.justice.gov

(ii) No entitlement to hearings and appeals. Except as otherwise provided in this section, such alien is not entitled to a hearing before an immigration judge in proceedings conducted pursuant to section 240 of the Act, or to an appeal of the expedited removal order to the Board of Immigration Appeals.

8 CFR § 235.3 - Inadmissible aliens and expedited removal.

www.law.cornell.edu

Thanks for that link. I will give it a look see.

 

[Rawley]

No. It isn’t. Our courts are a separate branch of government and come under Article III.

Our so-called “immigration Courts” are not Article III “courts.” They are Administrative. They are under the Executive Branch.

Dude, they are courts. No, they are not Article III courts, but they are courts. They are presided over by judges.

Thanks for that link. I will give it a look see.

Take a look

 

[BackAgain]

Rawley

Just to follow up. The exceptions (ie 240 and 244) address different matters and don’t need undercut the claim you made.

Unless there’s something (else) I’m missing, I have to acknowledge that you supported your claim (at least as to inadmissible aliens here less than two years) as being well supported.

Nicely done, by you.

 

[BackAgain]

Dude, they are courts. No, they are not Article III courts, but they are courts. They are presided over by judges.

Nope. Since they aren’t Article III Courts, the fact that we mislabel them as being “courts” doesn’t change what they are. And we can call any administrative hearing officer “judge,” but they aren’t real judges.

Take a look

At what?

 

[Rawley]

Nope. Since they aren’t Article III Courts, the fact that we mislabel them as being “courts” doesn’t change what they are. And we can call any administrative hearing officer “judge,” but they aren’t real judges.

They most certainly are "real" judges. They are called Administrative Law Judges (ALJs). There are over 2,000 ALJs in the Federal gvt. (well over twice as many as there are Article III judges) The bulk of the disputes with the Federal gvt are adjudicated by ALJs.

In the United States, the United States Supreme Court has recognized that the role of a federal administrative law judge is "functionally comparable" to that of an Article III judge. An ALJ's powers are often, if not generally, comparable to those of a trial judge, as ALJs may issue subpoenas, rule on proffers of evidence, regulate the course of the hearing, and make or recommend decisions.

Administrative law judge - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

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most of the rubes in here do not support due process.

As I showed in the Elian Gonzalez thread,

Thread 'Little Elian Gonzalez was deported to Cuba WITHOUT DUE PROCESS - The Democrats Cheered President Clinton On - V2'

Sunday at 6:17 PM

On November 21, 1999, Elián's mother, her partner, and Elián fled Cuba by boat as part of a group of refugees attempting to reach the United States. The boat sank during the journey, and Elián's mother, along with most of the passengers, drowned. Elián was found floating on an inner tube and rescued by two fishermen, who turned him over to the U.S. Coast Guard. Elián was taken to a hospital and treated for dehydration and minor cuts. In addition to Elián, a young couple survived and reached shore separately.

The Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS)...

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Socialist Demon Rats are no seeking "due process" per se what they want is to frustrate the MANDATE that we gave president Trump to IMMEDIATELY interdict detain and deport ALL the illegal aliens allowed to waltz in by the Biden Administration.
They figured that it will take a gazillion years to process 15,000,000 illegals -

 

[BackAgain]

They most certainly are "real" judges. They are called Administrative Law Judges (ALJs). There are over 2,000 ALJs in the Federal gvt. (well over twice as many as there are Article III judges) The bulk of the disputes with the Federal gvt are adjudicated by ALJs.

Administrative law judge - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

They are called judges. I already noted that.

But they are absolutely not real judges.

Real judges are Arricle III judges.

I see no point in continuing that facet of this conversation.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

As I showed in the Elian Gonzalez thread,

Thread 'Little Elian Gonzalez was deported to Cuba WITHOUT DUE PROCESS - The Democrats Cheered President Clinton On - V2'

Sunday at 6:17 PM

On November 21, 1999, Elián's mother, her partner, and Elián fled Cuba by boat as part of a group of refugees attempting to reach the United States. The boat sank during the journey, and Elián's mother, along with most of the passengers, drowned. Elián was found floating on an inner tube and rescued by two fishermen, who turned him over to the U.S. Coast Guard. Elián was taken to a hospital and treated for dehydration and minor cuts. In addition to Elián, a young couple survived and reached shore separately.

The Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS)...

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• Replies: 75
• Forum: Politics

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Socialist Demon Rats are no seeking "due process" per se what they want is to frustrate the MANDATE that we gave president Trump to IMMEDIATELY interdict detain and deport ALL the illegal aliens allowed to waltz in by the Biden Administration.
They figured that it will take a gazillion years to process 15,000,000 illegals -

Sounds like buyer's remorse. Can't really help you out there.