Dr. Fauci Admits He and Dr. Birx Were the Two 'Experts' Who Persuaded Trump to Kill the Economy with Their Garbage Predictions of 2.2 Million Deaths!

[Maxdeath]

WOW! Dr. Fauci Admits He and Dr. Birx Were the Two 'Experts' Who Persuaded Trump to Kill the Economy with Their Garbage Predictions of 2.2 Million Deaths!

....and Pelosi is out telling everyone to 'Listen to the Scientists, not the President'.



"Dr. Fauci admitted on Monday that it was he and Dr. Birx who persuaded President Trump to kill the economy… And they did this based on wildly inaccurate models and predictions!

Last week President admitted that back in March “two very smart people” came into his office and urged him to lock down the economy or 2.2 million Americans would die.
But President Trump did not say who those “two very smart people” were."

President Trump followed these two inept doctors and killed off the record US economy.
Later the two doctors came back and admitted their models were off by MILLIONS but instead of revising their strategy the doctors doubled-down on their insane strategy."

Latestmodels and revised predictions show COVID-19 could possibly have a higher infection rate but mortality rate lower than the common flu.

If I didn't know any better and / or believed in Conspiracy theories, I would think Fauci and Birx were Democrat 'plants' who intentionally misled the President into killing the strongest economy seen in this country in decades - in some cases ever - right before the election, the one thing Democrats did not even have a hope of stopping.

WOW! Dr. Fauci Admits He and Dr. Birx Were the Two 'Experts' Who Persuaded Trump to Kill the Economy with Their Garbage Predictions of 2.2 Million Deaths! | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

Dr.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

.

Another weak straw man.

The 2.2 million dead was if we took no action. We are taking action (mostly at the state level) so the predicted numbers have come down.

Next!

Got to love the crazy. Mostly at the state level. So explain why you and others were yelling that Trump didn't shut everything down, in other words rule with an iron fist. Yet were upset when he said that he could open up the economy, rule with the iron fist you wanted to give him? Why were you not yelling at Pelosi and others when they pulled stunts against the idea of locking down?

Because he should have.

DUH!

So he should be the one to open the economy and to hell with the governors. Duh

Too late now. He had his chance to be a leader.

He blew it.

No you either give him the ability to rule and cast aside congress and the constitution or you don't there is no in between.

So still waiting on your condemnation of Pelosi and others for their hissy fits over the lockdown.

 

[iceberg]

Anything to scare the masses, lie to the public, push fear. Get the masses all worked up so they'll be begging to take some crap gates vaccine that can track you and will more than likely have all kinds of side effects. No thanks.

it's amazing to me how bill gates goes from a national hero and the like, to an evil man who wants to take over the world and kill us all.

are you believing the very hype you're admonishing? i worked for Gates for 15 years and at MS for 20. never once was i given a reason to doubt him or his goodwill towards others.

as of 2018, he had given away $36 BILLION in his own money to help others. yet conspiracy people run rampant shouting he's going to be the death of us all.

anyway - just funny to see someone saying the press / leadership is lying to the masses, yet where else but the press / leadership are you getting this info?

which is it?

He wants to kill us all fool he ADMITS it you ( leftist) refuse to HEAR IT! THe WORDAGE USED is what you cant see through.
He's the asshole who says' Kill Granny".

He has killed millions of children in africa as well as caused them to be paralyzed this SOB pushes poison for big pharma to get filthy rich .






They make you poor and the feds come in looking like they rescuers the dumbasses ( sheep ) lol.

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heh - i'm a leftist.

and you're a bucket of shit.

 

[kyzr]

Not so fast, we're up to 25,000 deaths already and its only mid-April, and that's WITH "shutdown" mitigation measures. Without mitigation measures the outbreak cases would have been much higher, and NYC could NOT have handled the numbers because they barely handled the mitigated cases.

So I'm not blaming Fauci and Birx for the economic shutdown as long as we get the restart soon.

This "blame game" where Trump and his cultists trying to convince voters that what is happening RIGHT NOW, is not Trump's fault in any way, is both useless and pointless at this stage.

First off, the level of illness and death in the USA right now falls directly onto Trump's desk because he wasted three months doing nothing to plan or prepare for this virus. The only way to deflect blame is to lie about what Trump did and did not do, and that's very unhealthy at a time when Trump needs people to believe what he's telling them.

But the MOST important reason why the deflect blame PR game is such a bad idea is that 30,000 people have died, and people continue to die at the rate of more than 2000 per day. Your rate of infection is also rising, and the USA is singular among the countries in the world in the rapid rate of infection and death. Your country is in mourning, and in shock from everything that has happened. To have Donald Trump go on TV every day and say "This is not my fault" and "I have saved thousands of lives", when everything we see and hear says otherwise, isn't helpful to anyone.

Stop the sickness, stop the death, show empathy for the suffering of others, and stop talking about getting the economy restarted right away. Unless and until you have this disease under control, you're in no position to point fingers and attack others, nor should you.

The bald fact is that the USA is now a national parriah due to this pandemic. No one will be going in or out of the USA for months. And your economic structures for health care and labour, are not condusive to Americans getting this infections under control. The people most likely to get the virus, and die from it, are the ones least likely to have health insurance or to stay home if they're sick. And as long as there is no vaccine, and limited testing, you will NEVER be able to re-open your economy, in any meaningful way.

1. You have no credible links supporting your claims, so I can just call bullshit and end the post.
2. Here is a timeline on Trump's response to COVID, he shutdown travel the same month it became known

A timeline of the Trump administration’s coronavirus actions

Travel restrictions, lack of tests, contradicting claims: These are some of the major actions by the US president.

www.aljazeera.com

3. The medical experts predicted 2.2m US deaths w/o mitigation, then they predicted 100,000 to 240,000 deaths with mitigation, and now its 60,000 deaths, less than the regular flu, so the Trump admin did a terrific job keeping US deaths so low, especially compared to the EU, who has 3x the US dead based on equal populations.
4. The WHO screwed this up from the start, saying that "there was no human to human transmission". That was the major problem getting the response started, the WHO supported the China lies/coverup, "there was no pandemic".
5. We can lose tourism for a few months until there is a vaccine, no biggie. We need to get our restaurants back up and running, as well as most folks back to work, that is getting ready to start now. The US is not monolithically affected by COVID. The NYC area got most of it, the rest of the country not so much. The US healthcare system is the best in the world, by far. The ones most affected, i.e. likely to die, are over 80 and are covered by Medicare. The vaccines and therapies are being tested now.
The testing capacity is ramping up US Historical Data
6. The US economy will be restarted state-by-state with mitigation measures, starting soon. By June 1st the economy should be almost back to normal, except for large crowds, like at baseball games, concerts, and such.

So your negative post has nothing to do with reality. Be more positive and stay safe.

Repeating tRump's lies doesn't turn them into facts.

What lies?
Show me the unvarnished truth from a credible source.
I purposley linked to AlJazeera, so that no one would say its a Trump friendly site?!
Maybe its just the Truth that you find inconvenient? I can provide credible sources for all of my factoids.

 

[MindWars]

Anything to scare the masses, lie to the public, push fear. Get the masses all worked up so they'll be begging to take some crap gates vaccine that can track you and will more than likely have all kinds of side effects. No thanks.

it's amazing to me how bill gates goes from a national hero and the like, to an evil man who wants to take over the world and kill us all.

are you believing the very hype you're admonishing? i worked for Gates for 15 years and at MS for 20. never once was i given a reason to doubt him or his goodwill towards others.

as of 2018, he had given away $36 BILLION in his own money to help others. yet conspiracy people run rampant shouting he's going to be the death of us all.

anyway - just funny to see someone saying the press / leadership is lying to the masses, yet where else but the press / leadership are you getting this info?

which is it?

He wants to kill us all fool he ADMITS it you ( leftist) refuse to HEAR IT! THe WORDAGE USED is what you cant see through.
He's the asshole who says' Kill Granny".

He has killed millions of children in africa as well as caused them to be paralyzed this SOB pushes poison for big pharma to get filthy rich .






They make you poor and the feds come in looking like they rescuers the dumbasses ( sheep ) lol.

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heh - i'm a leftist.

and you're a bucket of shit.

Oh so you smelled yourself truth hurts kiinda don't it. THe smell of shit comes from the one who sits in it stupid ass.

 

[iceberg]

and the leftist nuts come to say " infowars is fake news lmfao". He tells you a holes this came chit weeks ago and you real dumb asses can't even pick up on that yet lol
and we keep telling you idiots
THIS VIRUS IS TO TAKE YOUR RIGHTS !!
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INFOWARS by their title alone is extreme. now i don't give a shit if you want to print up their crap and roll around in it from here til the day you move onto some other higher form of existence.

but they're still an extreme site who's sole job is to piss you off enough to make you scream and act the fool. only in your case, it ain't an act.

you make things like taking a shit a conspiracy just because you can't handle life any other way.

 

[Desperado]

WOW! Dr. Fauci Admits He and Dr. Birx Were the Two 'Experts' Who Persuaded Trump to Kill the Economy with Their Garbage Predictions of 2.2 Million Deaths!

....and Pelosi is out telling everyone to 'Listen to the Scientists, not the President'.



"Dr. Fauci admitted on Monday that it was he and Dr. Birx who persuaded President Trump to kill the economy… And they did this based on wildly inaccurate models and predictions!

Last week President admitted that back in March “two very smart people” came into his office and urged him to lock down the economy or 2.2 million Americans would die.
But President Trump did not say who those “two very smart people” were."

President Trump followed these two inept doctors and killed off the record US economy.
Later the two doctors came back and admitted their models were off by MILLIONS but instead of revising their strategy the doctors doubled-down on their insane strategy."

Latestmodels and revised predictions show COVID-19 could possibly have a higher infection rate but mortality rate lower than the common flu.

If I didn't know any better and / or believed in Conspiracy theories, I would think Fauci and Birx were Democrat 'plants' who intentionally misled the President into killing the strongest economy seen in this country in decades - in some cases ever - right before the election, the one thing Democrats did not even have a hope of stopping.

WOW! Dr. Fauci Admits He and Dr. Birx Were the Two 'Experts' Who Persuaded Trump to Kill the Economy with Their Garbage Predictions of 2.2 Million Deaths! | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

Dr.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

.

Another weak straw man.

The 2.2 million dead was if we took no action. We are taking action (mostly at the state level) so the predicted numbers have come down.

Next!

and that was revised to 200,000 when mitigation was taken into consideration.

Actually it was revised down in stages as more and more states took action in their own.

Facts. Sometimes they can be inconvenient.

Yes it can be inconvenient when the original prediction of 2 million deaths is corrected with mitigation down to 200K. then to 60K
All people claim is that we started social distancing as that was all it took.....besides wiping out the US economy. That is because they could never come out and be responsible and say we fucked up and the virus is no where near the danger we first thought because if they then they would be hung out to dry over the economy

 

[iceberg]

Anything to scare the masses, lie to the public, push fear. Get the masses all worked up so they'll be begging to take some crap gates vaccine that can track you and will more than likely have all kinds of side effects. No thanks.

it's amazing to me how bill gates goes from a national hero and the like, to an evil man who wants to take over the world and kill us all.

are you believing the very hype you're admonishing? i worked for Gates for 15 years and at MS for 20. never once was i given a reason to doubt him or his goodwill towards others.

as of 2018, he had given away $36 BILLION in his own money to help others. yet conspiracy people run rampant shouting he's going to be the death of us all.

anyway - just funny to see someone saying the press / leadership is lying to the masses, yet where else but the press / leadership are you getting this info?

which is it?

He wants to kill us all fool he ADMITS it you ( leftist) refuse to HEAR IT! THe WORDAGE USED is what you cant see through.
He's the asshole who says' Kill Granny".

He has killed millions of children in africa as well as caused them to be paralyzed this SOB pushes poison for big pharma to get filthy rich .






They make you poor and the feds come in looking like they rescuers the dumbasses ( sheep ) lol.

View attachment 323751

heh - i'm a leftist.

and you're a bucket of shit.

Oh so you smelled yourself truth hurts kiinda don't it. THe smell of shit comes from the one who sits in it stupid ass.

yet you can't address my point - you have to go on a jr high rampage and pop some of your mental zits in front of us.

i watched your videos. they don't say what you think they say. but hey - have fun in whatever world you've created.

 

[Desperado]

WOW! Dr. Fauci Admits He and Dr. Birx Were the Two 'Experts' Who Persuaded Trump to Kill the Economy with Their Garbage Predictions of 2.2 Million Deaths!

....and Pelosi is out telling everyone to 'Listen to the Scientists, not the President'.



"Dr. Fauci admitted on Monday that it was he and Dr. Birx who persuaded President Trump to kill the economy… And they did this based on wildly inaccurate models and predictions!

Last week President admitted that back in March “two very smart people” came into his office and urged him to lock down the economy or 2.2 million Americans would die.
But President Trump did not say who those “two very smart people” were."

President Trump followed these two inept doctors and killed off the record US economy.
Later the two doctors came back and admitted their models were off by MILLIONS but instead of revising their strategy the doctors doubled-down on their insane strategy."

Latestmodels and revised predictions show COVID-19 could possibly have a higher infection rate but mortality rate lower than the common flu.

If I didn't know any better and / or believed in Conspiracy theories, I would think Fauci and Birx were Democrat 'plants' who intentionally misled the President into killing the strongest economy seen in this country in decades - in some cases ever - right before the election, the one thing Democrats did not even have a hope of stopping.

WOW! Dr. Fauci Admits He and Dr. Birx Were the Two 'Experts' Who Persuaded Trump to Kill the Economy with Their Garbage Predictions of 2.2 Million Deaths! | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

Dr.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

.

Another weak straw man.

The 2.2 million dead was if we took no action. We are taking action (mostly at the state level) so the predicted numbers have come down.

Next!

Got to love the crazy. Mostly at the state level. So explain why you and others were yelling that Trump didn't shut everything down, in other words rule with an iron fist. Yet were upset when he said that he could open up the economy, rule with the iron fist you wanted to give him? Why were you not yelling at Pelosi and others when they pulled stunts against the idea of locking down?

Because he should have.

DUH!

So he should be the one to open the economy and to hell with the governors. Duh

Too late now. He had his chance to be a leader.

He blew it.

Only in your Trump Derangement Syndrome tainted mind.

Facts are facts, Son.

And you should find some.....

 

[MindWars]

Anything to scare the masses, lie to the public, push fear. Get the masses all worked up so they'll be begging to take some crap gates vaccine that can track you and will more than likely have all kinds of side effects. No thanks.

it's amazing to me how bill gates goes from a national hero and the like, to an evil man who wants to take over the world and kill us all.

are you believing the very hype you're admonishing? i worked for Gates for 15 years and at MS for 20. never once was i given a reason to doubt him or his goodwill towards others.

as of 2018, he had given away $36 BILLION in his own money to help others. yet conspiracy people run rampant shouting he's going to be the death of us all.

anyway - just funny to see someone saying the press / leadership is lying to the masses, yet where else but the press / leadership are you getting this info?

which is it?

Theres nothing funny about gates. He has given conferences and talks on reducing the world population, eugenics, etc. He also went to india a few years ago and vaccinated thousands of girls with HPV vaccine. A lot of them got sick and many died. These were girls 9-15 in age that needed no vaccine. This isnt hype dude. These are facts. You keep believing all the propaganda from the mainstream. I will not believe their lies.

facts are to scary for the weaker minds. They can't stand their " SCIENCE" backfires on theiir own asses. Stupidity is hard to puut ouut.

WHITE HOUSE LEAKS DRAFT PLAN TO REOPEN AMERICAN ECONOMY
The process of a managed reopening will take much longer than 30 days
LMFAO

these asses haven't seen anything yet.

 

[MindWars]

Anything to scare the masses, lie to the public, push fear. Get the masses all worked up so they'll be begging to take some crap gates vaccine that can track you and will more than likely have all kinds of side effects. No thanks.

it's amazing to me how bill gates goes from a national hero and the like, to an evil man who wants to take over the world and kill us all.

are you believing the very hype you're admonishing? i worked for Gates for 15 years and at MS for 20. never once was i given a reason to doubt him or his goodwill towards others.

as of 2018, he had given away $36 BILLION in his own money to help others. yet conspiracy people run rampant shouting he's going to be the death of us all.

anyway - just funny to see someone saying the press / leadership is lying to the masses, yet where else but the press / leadership are you getting this info?

which is it?

He wants to kill us all fool he ADMITS it you ( leftist) refuse to HEAR IT! THe WORDAGE USED is what you cant see through.
He's the asshole who says' Kill Granny".

He has killed millions of children in africa as well as caused them to be paralyzed this SOB pushes poison for big pharma to get filthy rich .






They make you poor and the feds come in looking like they rescuers the dumbasses ( sheep ) lol.

View attachment 323751

heh - i'm a leftist.

and you're a bucket of shit.

Oh so you smelled yourself truth hurts kiinda don't it. THe smell of shit comes from the one who sits in it stupid ass.

yet you can't address my point - you have to go on a jr high rampage and pop some of your mental zits in front of us.

i watched your videos. they don't say what you think they say. but hey - have fun in whatever world you've created.

I didn't even see your first point DICK head. and at this point since you BIT my fk head off over your hurt feelings on somehting you didn't like so right away give me your bs. LOL........ and I thought we were friend lmfao.

 

[Crepitus]

Not so fast, we're up to 25,000 deaths already and its only mid-April, and that's WITH "shutdown" mitigation measures. Without mitigation measures the outbreak cases would have been much higher, and NYC could NOT have handled the numbers because they barely handled the mitigated cases.

So I'm not blaming Fauci and Birx for the economic shutdown as long as we get the restart soon.

This "blame game" where Trump and his cultists trying to convince voters that what is happening RIGHT NOW, is not Trump's fault in any way, is both useless and pointless at this stage.

First off, the level of illness and death in the USA right now falls directly onto Trump's desk because he wasted three months doing nothing to plan or prepare for this virus. The only way to deflect blame is to lie about what Trump did and did not do, and that's very unhealthy at a time when Trump needs people to believe what he's telling them.

But the MOST important reason why the deflect blame PR game is such a bad idea is that 30,000 people have died, and people continue to die at the rate of more than 2000 per day. Your rate of infection is also rising, and the USA is singular among the countries in the world in the rapid rate of infection and death. Your country is in mourning, and in shock from everything that has happened. To have Donald Trump go on TV every day and say "This is not my fault" and "I have saved thousands of lives", when everything we see and hear says otherwise, isn't helpful to anyone.

Stop the sickness, stop the death, show empathy for the suffering of others, and stop talking about getting the economy restarted right away. Unless and until you have this disease under control, you're in no position to point fingers and attack others, nor should you.

The bald fact is that the USA is now a national parriah due to this pandemic. No one will be going in or out of the USA for months. And your economic structures for health care and labour, are not condusive to Americans getting this infections under control. The people most likely to get the virus, and die from it, are the ones least likely to have health insurance or to stay home if they're sick. And as long as there is no vaccine, and limited testing, you will NEVER be able to re-open your economy, in any meaningful way.

1. You have no credible links supporting your claims, so I can just call bullshit and end the post.
2. Here is a timeline on Trump's response to COVID, he shutdown travel the same month it became known

A timeline of the Trump administration’s coronavirus actions

Travel restrictions, lack of tests, contradicting claims: These are some of the major actions by the US president.

www.aljazeera.com

3. The medical experts predicted 2.2m US deaths w/o mitigation, then they predicted 100,000 to 240,000 deaths with mitigation, and now its 60,000 deaths, less than the regular flu, so the Trump admin did a terrific job keeping US deaths so low, especially compared to the EU, who has 3x the US dead based on equal populations.
4. The WHO screwed this up from the start, saying that "there was no human to human transmission". That was the major problem getting the response started, the WHO supported the China lies/coverup, "there was no pandemic".
5. We can lose tourism for a few months until there is a vaccine, no biggie. We need to get our restaurants back up and running, as well as most folks back to work, that is getting ready to start now. The US is not monolithically affected by COVID. The NYC area got most of it, the rest of the country not so much. The US healthcare system is the best in the world, by far. The ones most affected, i.e. likely to die, are over 80 and are covered by Medicare. The vaccines and therapies are being tested now.
The testing capacity is ramping up US Historical Data
6. The US economy will be restarted state-by-state with mitigation measures, starting soon. By June 1st the economy should be almost back to normal, except for large crowds, like at baseball games, concerts, and such.

So your negative post has nothing to do with reality. Be more positive and stay safe.

Repeating tRump's lies doesn't turn them into facts.

What lies?
Show me the unvarnished truth from a credible source.
I purposley linked to AlJazeera, so that no one would say its a Trump friendly site?!
Maybe its just the Truth that you find inconvenient? I can provide credible sources for all of my factoids.

Let's just start with 1.

What did the tRump administration do to keep.deaths lower?

 

[easyt65]

Facts. Sometimes they can be inconvenient.

For SNOWFLAKES....

 

[Crepitus]

Facts. Sometimes they can be inconvenient.

For SNOWFLAKES....

I'm glad to see you're finally admitting you're a snowflake. Admitting you have a problem is the first step to solving it.

 

[easyt65]

I'm glad to see you're finally admitting you're a snowflake.

As I have said numerous times before and you have demonstrated numerous times as well, stick to speaking for yourself, which you have trouble doing, because you absolutely suck at trying to speak for (project onto) me / others.

 

[kyzr]

Not so fast, we're up to 25,000 deaths already and its only mid-April, and that's WITH "shutdown" mitigation measures. Without mitigation measures the outbreak cases would have been much higher, and NYC could NOT have handled the numbers because they barely handled the mitigated cases.

So I'm not blaming Fauci and Birx for the economic shutdown as long as we get the restart soon.

This "blame game" where Trump and his cultists trying to convince voters that what is happening RIGHT NOW, is not Trump's fault in any way, is both useless and pointless at this stage.

First off, the level of illness and death in the USA right now falls directly onto Trump's desk because he wasted three months doing nothing to plan or prepare for this virus. The only way to deflect blame is to lie about what Trump did and did not do, and that's very unhealthy at a time when Trump needs people to believe what he's telling them.

But the MOST important reason why the deflect blame PR game is such a bad idea is that 30,000 people have died, and people continue to die at the rate of more than 2000 per day. Your rate of infection is also rising, and the USA is singular among the countries in the world in the rapid rate of infection and death. Your country is in mourning, and in shock from everything that has happened. To have Donald Trump go on TV every day and say "This is not my fault" and "I have saved thousands of lives", when everything we see and hear says otherwise, isn't helpful to anyone.

Stop the sickness, stop the death, show empathy for the suffering of others, and stop talking about getting the economy restarted right away. Unless and until you have this disease under control, you're in no position to point fingers and attack others, nor should you.

The bald fact is that the USA is now a national parriah due to this pandemic. No one will be going in or out of the USA for months. And your economic structures for health care and labour, are not condusive to Americans getting this infections under control. The people most likely to get the virus, and die from it, are the ones least likely to have health insurance or to stay home if they're sick. And as long as there is no vaccine, and limited testing, you will NEVER be able to re-open your economy, in any meaningful way.

1. You have no credible links supporting your claims, so I can just call bullshit and end the post.
2. Here is a timeline on Trump's response to COVID, he shutdown travel the same month it became known

A timeline of the Trump administration’s coronavirus actions

Travel restrictions, lack of tests, contradicting claims: These are some of the major actions by the US president.

www.aljazeera.com

3. The medical experts predicted 2.2m US deaths w/o mitigation, then they predicted 100,000 to 240,000 deaths with mitigation, and now its 60,000 deaths, less than the regular flu, so the Trump admin did a terrific job keeping US deaths so low, especially compared to the EU, who has 3x the US dead based on equal populations.
4. The WHO screwed this up from the start, saying that "there was no human to human transmission". That was the major problem getting the response started, the WHO supported the China lies/coverup, "there was no pandemic".
5. We can lose tourism for a few months until there is a vaccine, no biggie. We need to get our restaurants back up and running, as well as most folks back to work, that is getting ready to start now. The US is not monolithically affected by COVID. The NYC area got most of it, the rest of the country not so much. The US healthcare system is the best in the world, by far. The ones most affected, i.e. likely to die, are over 80 and are covered by Medicare. The vaccines and therapies are being tested now.
The testing capacity is ramping up US Historical Data
6. The US economy will be restarted state-by-state with mitigation measures, starting soon. By June 1st the economy should be almost back to normal, except for large crowds, like at baseball games, concerts, and such.

So your negative post has nothing to do with reality. Be more positive and stay safe.

Repeating tRump's lies doesn't turn them into facts.

What lies?
Show me the unvarnished truth from a credible source.
I purposely linked to AlJazeera, so that no one would say its a Trump friendly site?!
Maybe its just the Truth that you find inconvenient? I can provide credible sources for all of my factoids.

Let's just start with 1.

What did the tRump administration do to keep.deaths lower?

1. Trump stopped Chinese flying to the US very early, so much so that the democrats and MSM called him a "xenophobe".

FLASHBACK: The Media Called Trump's China Travel Ban "Emotional, Political, Not Effective"

Now that the coronavirus has shut down a large portion of America, it is obvious that President Trump's ban on travel from China has saved lives and prevented a much wider spread of the disease. Without such decisive action by the leader of the free world, the U.S. could have been devastated...

trendingpolitics.com

2. So if the democrats had the WH the US would have had many more infections and deaths.

 

[Dragonlady]

Not so fast, we're up to 25,000 deaths already and its only mid-April, and that's WITH "shutdown" mitigation measures. Without mitigation measures the outbreak cases would have been much higher, and NYC could NOT have handled the numbers because they barely handled the mitigated cases.

So I'm not blaming Fauci and Birx for the economic shutdown as long as we get the restart soon.

This "blame game" where Trump and his cultists trying to convince voters that what is happening RIGHT NOW, is not Trump's fault in any way, is both useless and pointless at this stage.

First off, the level of illness and death in the USA right now falls directly onto Trump's desk because he wasted three months doing nothing to plan or prepare for this virus. The only way to deflect blame is to lie about what Trump did and did not do, and that's very unhealthy at a time when Trump needs people to believe what he's telling them.

But the MOST important reason why the deflect blame PR game is such a bad idea is that 30,000 people have died, and people continue to die at the rate of more than 2000 per day. Your rate of infection is also rising, and the USA is singular among the countries in the world in the rapid rate of infection and death. Your country is in mourning, and in shock from everything that has happened. To have Donald Trump go on TV every day and say "This is not my fault" and "I have saved thousands of lives", when everything we see and hear says otherwise, isn't helpful to anyone.

Stop the sickness, stop the death, show empathy for the suffering of others, and stop talking about getting the economy restarted right away. Unless and until you have this disease under control, you're in no position to point fingers and attack others, nor should you.

The bald fact is that the USA is now a national parriah due to this pandemic. No one will be going in or out of the USA for months. And your economic structures for health care and labour, are not condusive to Americans getting this infections under control. The people most likely to get the virus, and die from it, are the ones least likely to have health insurance or to stay home if they're sick. And as long as there is no vaccine, and limited testing, you will NEVER be able to re-open your economy, in any meaningful way.

1. You have no credible links supporting your claims, so I can just call bullshit and end the post.
2. Here is a timeline on Trump's response to COVID, he shutdown travel the same month it became known

A timeline of the Trump administration’s coronavirus actions

Travel restrictions, lack of tests, contradicting claims: These are some of the major actions by the US president.

www.aljazeera.com

3. The medical experts predicted 2.2m US deaths w/o mitigation, then they predicted 100,000 to 240,000 deaths with mitigation, and now its 60,000 deaths, less than the regular flu, so the Trump admin did a terrific job keeping US deaths so low, especially compared to the EU, who has 3x the US dead based on equal populations.
4. The WHO screwed this up from the start, saying that "there was no human to human transmission". That was the major problem getting the response started, the WHO supported the China lies/coverup, "there was no pandemic".
5. We can lose tourism for a few months until there is a vaccine, no biggie. We need to get our restaurants back up and running, as well as most folks back to work, that is getting ready to start now. The US is not monolithically affected by COVID. The NYC area got most of it, the rest of the country not so much. The US healthcare system is the best in the world, by far. The ones most affected, i.e. likely to die, are over 80 and are covered by Medicare. The vaccines and therapies are being tested now.
The testing capacity is ramping up US Historical Data
6. The US economy will be restarted state-by-state with mitigation measures, starting soon. By June 1st the economy should be almost back to normal, except for large crowds, like at baseball games, concerts, and such.

So your negative post has nothing to do with reality. Be more positive and stay safe.

Repeating tRump's lies doesn't turn them into facts.

What lies?
Show me the unvarnished truth from a credible source.
I purposley linked to AlJazeera, so that no one would say its a Trump friendly site?!
Maybe its just the Truth that you find inconvenient? I can provide credible sources for all of my factoids.

Let's just start with 1.

What did the tRump administration do to keep.deaths lower?

I'd like to focus on #3. The prediction of 60,000 deaths nationwide. You're more than half way there in less than 30 days. You have more than 525,000 sick people and that number may not be doubling every other day, but it is going up by 100,000 patients every two or three days. With more than 2000 deaths per day, and that number is still rising.

It sadly appears that the USA will hit 60,000 deaths this month, and that there will still be more than a half a million unresolved cases on May 1st. You only have 40,000 "resolved", which means people who haven't died and aren't sick, and you have over 30,000 deaths. That ratio of deaths to resolved cases is truly frightening.

Now these first 70,000 cases occurred before the US had testing of any kind and when only the sickest people were getting tested, so that may be a factor in that ratio, and with wider testing that percentage is sure to come down.

But when you look at the countries where the virus is not raging out of control, where growth is slow, and the medical systems aren't being overwhelmed, and you'll see a ratio of 1 death for every 10 recoveries. Canada, Austria, Switzerland are all around this number. Germany has 1 death for every 20 recoveries. South Korea has 1 death for every 30 recoveries - remarkable.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Anything to scare the masses, lie to the public, push fear. Get the masses all worked up so they'll be begging to take some crap gates vaccine that can track you and will more than likely have all kinds of side effects. No thanks.

it's amazing to me how bill gates goes from a national hero and the like, to an evil man who wants to take over the world and kill us all.

are you believing the very hype you're admonishing? i worked for Gates for 15 years and at MS for 20. never once was i given a reason to doubt him or his goodwill towards others.

as of 2018, he had given away $36 BILLION in his own money to help others. yet conspiracy people run rampant shouting he's going to be the death of us all.

anyway - just funny to see someone saying the press / leadership is lying to the masses, yet where else but the press / leadership are you getting this info?

which is it?

Theres nothing funny about gates. He has given conferences and talks on reducing the world population, eugenics, etc. He also went to india a few years ago and vaccinated thousands of girls with HPV vaccine. A lot of them got sick and many died. These were girls 9-15 in age that needed no vaccine. This isnt hype dude. These are facts. You keep believing all the propaganda from the mainstream. I will not believe their lies.

please point out the conferences and quotes attributed to this. i can google, sure - but i want to see *your* points of reference.

and since i worked for and met the man, i don't believe i'm falling for the hype. you know, the same HYPE you're following to prove he's out to kill us. you are *STILL* screaming MEDIA LIES and then GATES SUCKS from info you garner FROM the MEDIA who LIES.

it's just such a strange way to process thought to me.

so - give me your specific examples of gates doing this so we're talking from the same vantage point and we'll go from there.

Yeah, he's part of the eugenics movement. He's just real subtle and disguises his antics and moves. So many people can't discern. Hopefully, thats not you.

The Gates Family, Eugenics and COVID-19

What is the true story behind Bill Gates and his family? Should we trust his COVID-19 advice?

tottnews.com

 

[iceberg]

Anything to scare the masses, lie to the public, push fear. Get the masses all worked up so they'll be begging to take some crap gates vaccine that can track you and will more than likely have all kinds of side effects. No thanks.

it's amazing to me how bill gates goes from a national hero and the like, to an evil man who wants to take over the world and kill us all.

are you believing the very hype you're admonishing? i worked for Gates for 15 years and at MS for 20. never once was i given a reason to doubt him or his goodwill towards others.

as of 2018, he had given away $36 BILLION in his own money to help others. yet conspiracy people run rampant shouting he's going to be the death of us all.

anyway - just funny to see someone saying the press / leadership is lying to the masses, yet where else but the press / leadership are you getting this info?

which is it?

Theres nothing funny about gates. He has given conferences and talks on reducing the world population, eugenics, etc. He also went to india a few years ago and vaccinated thousands of girls with HPV vaccine. A lot of them got sick and many died. These were girls 9-15 in age that needed no vaccine. This isnt hype dude. These are facts. You keep believing all the propaganda from the mainstream. I will not believe their lies.

please point out the conferences and quotes attributed to this. i can google, sure - but i want to see *your* points of reference.

and since i worked for and met the man, i don't believe i'm falling for the hype. you know, the same HYPE you're following to prove he's out to kill us. you are *STILL* screaming MEDIA LIES and then GATES SUCKS from info you garner FROM the MEDIA who LIES.

it's just such a strange way to process thought to me.

so - give me your specific examples of gates doing this so we're talking from the same vantage point and we'll go from there.

Yeah, he's part of the eugenics movement. He's just real subtle and disguises his antics and moves. So many people can't discern. Hopefully, thats not you.

The Gates Family, Eugenics and COVID-19

What is the true story behind Bill Gates and his family? Should we trust his COVID-19 advice?

tottnews.com

whoah - you found a blogger to reference.

nice. how will honesty ever recover?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Anything to scare the masses, lie to the public, push fear. Get the masses all worked up so they'll be begging to take some crap gates vaccine that can track you and will more than likely have all kinds of side effects. No thanks.

it's amazing to me how bill gates goes from a national hero and the like, to an evil man who wants to take over the world and kill us all.

are you believing the very hype you're admonishing? i worked for Gates for 15 years and at MS for 20. never once was i given a reason to doubt him or his goodwill towards others.

as of 2018, he had given away $36 BILLION in his own money to help others. yet conspiracy people run rampant shouting he's going to be the death of us all.

anyway - just funny to see someone saying the press / leadership is lying to the masses, yet where else but the press / leadership are you getting this info?

which is it?

Theres nothing funny about gates. He has given conferences and talks on reducing the world population, eugenics, etc. He also went to india a few years ago and vaccinated thousands of girls with HPV vaccine. A lot of them got sick and many died. These were girls 9-15 in age that needed no vaccine. This isnt hype dude. These are facts. You keep believing all the propaganda from the mainstream. I will not believe their lies.

please point out the conferences and quotes attributed to this. i can google, sure - but i want to see *your* points of reference.

and since i worked for and met the man, i don't believe i'm falling for the hype. you know, the same HYPE you're following to prove he's out to kill us. you are *STILL* screaming MEDIA LIES and then GATES SUCKS from info you garner FROM the MEDIA who LIES.

it's just such a strange way to process thought to me.

so - give me your specific examples of gates doing this so we're talking from the same vantage point and we'll go from there.

Yeah, he's part of the eugenics movement. He's just real subtle and disguises his antics and moves. So many people can't discern. Hopefully, thats not you.

The Gates Family, Eugenics and COVID-19

What is the true story behind Bill Gates and his family? Should we trust his COVID-19 advice?

tottnews.com

whoah - you found a blogger to reference.

nice. how will honesty ever recover?

Oh I see, you need to be fed by the mainstream. Im out.

 

[kyzr]

Not so fast, we're up to 25,000 deaths already and its only mid-April, and that's WITH "shutdown" mitigation measures. Without mitigation measures the outbreak cases would have been much higher, and NYC could NOT have handled the numbers because they barely handled the mitigated cases.

So I'm not blaming Fauci and Birx for the economic shutdown as long as we get the restart soon.

This "blame game" where Trump and his cultists trying to convince voters that what is happening RIGHT NOW, is not Trump's fault in any way, is both useless and pointless at this stage.

First off, the level of illness and death in the USA right now falls directly onto Trump's desk because he wasted three months doing nothing to plan or prepare for this virus. The only way to deflect blame is to lie about what Trump did and did not do, and that's very unhealthy at a time when Trump needs people to believe what he's telling them.

But the MOST important reason why the deflect blame PR game is such a bad idea is that 30,000 people have died, and people continue to die at the rate of more than 2000 per day. Your rate of infection is also rising, and the USA is singular among the countries in the world in the rapid rate of infection and death. Your country is in mourning, and in shock from everything that has happened. To have Donald Trump go on TV every day and say "This is not my fault" and "I have saved thousands of lives", when everything we see and hear says otherwise, isn't helpful to anyone.

Stop the sickness, stop the death, show empathy for the suffering of others, and stop talking about getting the economy restarted right away. Unless and until you have this disease under control, you're in no position to point fingers and attack others, nor should you.

The bald fact is that the USA is now a national parriah due to this pandemic. No one will be going in or out of the USA for months. And your economic structures for health care and labour, are not condusive to Americans getting this infections under control. The people most likely to get the virus, and die from it, are the ones least likely to have health insurance or to stay home if they're sick. And as long as there is no vaccine, and limited testing, you will NEVER be able to re-open your economy, in any meaningful way.

1. You have no credible links supporting your claims, so I can just call bullshit and end the post.
2. Here is a timeline on Trump's response to COVID, he shutdown travel the same month it became known

A timeline of the Trump administration’s coronavirus actions

Travel restrictions, lack of tests, contradicting claims: These are some of the major actions by the US president.

www.aljazeera.com

3. The medical experts predicted 2.2m US deaths w/o mitigation, then they predicted 100,000 to 240,000 deaths with mitigation, and now its 60,000 deaths, less than the regular flu, so the Trump admin did a terrific job keeping US deaths so low, especially compared to the EU, who has 3x the US dead based on equal populations.
4. The WHO screwed this up from the start, saying that "there was no human to human transmission". That was the major problem getting the response started, the WHO supported the China lies/coverup, "there was no pandemic".
5. We can lose tourism for a few months until there is a vaccine, no biggie. We need to get our restaurants back up and running, as well as most folks back to work, that is getting ready to start now. The US is not monolithically affected by COVID. The NYC area got most of it, the rest of the country not so much. The US healthcare system is the best in the world, by far. The ones most affected, i.e. likely to die, are over 80 and are covered by Medicare. The vaccines and therapies are being tested now.
The testing capacity is ramping up US Historical Data
6. The US economy will be restarted state-by-state with mitigation measures, starting soon. By June 1st the economy should be almost back to normal, except for large crowds, like at baseball games, concerts, and such.

So your negative post has nothing to do with reality. Be more positive and stay safe.

Repeating tRump's lies doesn't turn them into facts.

What lies?
Show me the unvarnished truth from a credible source.
I purposley linked to AlJazeera, so that no one would say its a Trump friendly site?!
Maybe its just the Truth that you find inconvenient? I can provide credible sources for all of my factoids.

Let's just start with 1.

What did the tRump administration do to keep.deaths lower?

I'd like to focus on #3. The prediction of 60,000 deaths nationwide. You're more than half way there in less than 30 days. You have more than 525,000 sick people and that number may not be doubling every other day, but it is going up by 100,000 patients every two or three days. With more than 2000 deaths per day, and that number is still rising.

It sadly appears that the USA will hit 60,000 deaths this month, and that there will still be more than a half a million unresolved cases on May 1st. You only have 40,000 "resolved", which means people who haven't died and aren't sick, and you have over 30,000 deaths. That ratio of deaths to resolved cases is truly frightening.

Now these first 70,000 cases occurred before the US had testing of any kind and when only the sickest people were getting tested, so that may be a factor in that ratio, and with wider testing that percentage is sure to come down.

But when you look at the countries where the virus is not raging out of control, where growth is slow, and the medical systems aren't being overwhelmed, and you'll see a ratio of 1 death for every 10 recoveries. Canada, Austria, Switzerland are all around this number. Germany has 1 death for every 20 recoveries. South Korea has 1 death for every 30 recoveries - remarkable.

Focusing on #3:
60,000 deaths is not my prediction, its the CDC's, Drs. Fauci & Birx, based on various models, it looks reasonable to me based on the new cases starting to decline.

Revised coronavirus model predicts fewer deaths, but tens of thousands in US still expected to die by August | CNN

An influential model tracking the coronavirus pandemic in the United States now predicts that fewer people will die and fewer hospital beds will be needed compared to its estimates from last week.

www.cnn.com

See the New Case graph below:

The number of deaths is a lagging indicator. So the number of deaths will lag the number of new cases by about 2 weeks.
So in late April & May the number of deaths should decline significantly, and be a much smaller number in June.

To your final point, "deaths per population", the US is doing very well thank you:

COVID Live - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...

www.worldometers.info