Donald Trump to kick transgender troops out of US military

[The Duke]

People were saying the exact same thing about blacks in the military, about asians in the military, about hispanics in military, etc. All these views have ended up in the dumpster fire of history.

Lies. Link-?

 

[Independent thinker]

I say kick them out of america. These freaks cost us a fortune in medical care with their self-inflicted health problems.

Donald Trump ‘to kick transgender troops out of US military’

An executive order could be signed as early as Donald Trump’s first day back in the White House, which would force 15,000 people out of their posts

www.thetimes.com

Not only are we going to save these ridiculous medical care costs, recruitment will probably increase.

 

[Couchpotato]

People were saying the exact same thing about blacks in the military, about asians in the military, about hispanics in military, etc. All these views have ended up in the dumpster fire of history.

The argument for not allowing a transgender person in the military are multiple. The primary one being that as I have stated numerous times in this thread they are non deployable. The other issues being billeting/berthing, bathroom/shower facilities, the US military taking someone in with a preexisting medical condition. etc. There are all kinds of people who are not allowed to join the military for all sorts of reasons.

 

[TNHarley]

The military will kick you out for recurring nightmares, but gender dysphoria is fine lolz.
******* clown world.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Trump to remove all transgender soldiers from US military, issue outright ban on Jan 20: Report

On his return to White House on January 20, US President-elect Donald Trump is expected to sign an executive order that would remove all transgender service members from the military

www.firstpost.com

It seems this is a proper move to have the most capable military, but it is not in the spirit of EQUITY.

WAY MORE LGBTQ people have to die in war to have equitable numbers with white males.

VERY UNFAIR, THERE SHOULD BE DEI IN THE KIA COMMUNITY!

 

[Darkwind]

There are 15,000 transgenders in the U.S. military?

I am poorly informed. I would have thought there were 15,000 transgenders in all of America.

It's difficult for me to have an opinion on this. If someone is willing to risk their lives, they deserve latitude and support IMO.

The problem is that this is a mental illness.

It goes without saying that where the rubber meets the road, you cannot count on someone with a mental illness to do their duty and watch your ass.

 

[ColonelAngus]

In the interest of DEI, why not send them all to Ukraine, right to the front lines?

Equity of outcome is fair.

 

[JoeB131]

They're beating the **** out of us in the information war...You are exhibit A.

Meh, China doesn't obsess about America the way America obsesses about China.

 

[JoeB131]

It's not culture...All jokes aside, would you want menstruating women in the foxholes around Bastogne?

Isn't that kind of like asking if you would want menstruating women inside the Trojan Horse with you?

Wars aren't fought like that anymore. The days of arming millions of men and throwing them at each other are gone.

Today, War is a lot more technical,

 

[JoeB131]

You should consider how your own gender issues and insecurities are causing you to be so irrationally hostile to your fellow human beings

Naw, ShockedCanadian thinks there's a Chinaman hiding under his bed who is going to jump out and get him tonight.

 

[hadit]

There are 15,000 transgenders in the U.S. military?

I am poorly informed. I would have thought there were 15,000 transgenders in all of America.

It's difficult for me to have an opinion on this. If someone is willing to risk their lives, they deserve latitude and support IMO.

Here's the thing, we can't deploy troops to the battlefield that are dependent on medication, because the medication may not be available in combat. Trans people are dependent on medication to make their appearance more feminine/masculine.

It's why we don't deploy type 1 diabetics who are otherwise healthy and strong but depend on insulin.

 

[JoeB131]

NO ******* WAY!!!
Where were all these genetically deficient wackos in 1990?
The lunacy almost seems manufactured doesn’t it?

I will tell you exactly where they were in 1990. They were pretending to be their expected gender.

I give you, one Jennifer Pritzker, cousin of the current IL governor. Except back in the 1980's and 1990's, she was known as James Pritzker. Had a pretty successful career in the Army and Reserves, eventually reaching the rank of Lt. Colonel.

Jennifer Pritzker - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[ColonelAngus]

Here's the thing, we can't deploy troops to the battlefield that are dependent on medication, because the medication may not be available in combat. Trans people are dependent on medication to make their appearance more feminine/masculine.

It's why we don't deploy type 1 diabetics who are otherwise healthy and strong but depend on insulin.

This is the ACTUAL reason.

What if you cannot get hormones to the front lines.

It is why asthmatics cannot serve, you cant rely on meds in war.

Great post. Most on the left AND right will miss this accurate assessment totally.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Huh? I don't care about this issue so why would you say that?

Projecting I presume.

Oooops I screwed up That was intended for the OP

 

[Seymour Flops]

There are 15,000 transgenders in the U.S. military?

I am poorly informed. I would have thought there were 15,000 transgenders in all of America.

It's difficult for me to have an opinion on this. If someone is willing to risk their lives, they deserve latitude and support IMO.

I don't hate transgenders for their sickness any more than I would hate a person with any other mental illness. I hate the opportunistic politicians and the industry that profits from their sickness.

One thing the military is noted for is that it does not bend over backwards to cater to afflictions that would make a soldier/sailor/marine/airman less effective in wartime. For obvious reasons.

I suppose my opinion would depend on how transgender the transgender person is. There are some who are not much more "transgender" that Cpl Klinger from MASH. They may grow long hair and put on makeup, but they aren't trying to "pass." Then there are those who are far sicker. So sick that they hate their real identity and are willing to be mutilated to avoid facing it.

Suppose a soldier announces that they are the second time, immediately after basic training and advanced training in their specialty. He's going to want the "whole nine yards" as we used to say in the Army. How much of his time will be spent in surgery, and recovery and how much money will be paid by the taxpayer for his medical care, and how many work/training days will he miss? During what percent of his time in the military will he be non-deployable?

It's absurd that the Army will reject a recruit for being five pounds overweight, which would quickly be lost during basic training, but under Joe Biden would accept a person with an expense to treat mental illness that has a high rate of suicide, regardless of treatment.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

I say kick them out of america. These freaks cost us a fortune in medical care with their self-inflicted health problems.

Donald Trump ‘to kick transgender troops out of US military’

An executive order could be signed as early as Donald Trump’s first day back in the White House, which would force 15,000 people out of their posts

www.thetimes.com

You should consider how your own gender issues and insecurities are causing you to be so irrationally hostile to your fellow human beings

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Trump's female SS body guard during the assassination attempt was a perfect example of just how incompetent they are.

She wasn't incompetent as much as tiny. As any kind of protection, she is so small as to be useless.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Transgender cannot be in sensitive positions. If captured by an enemy they would not hold up to threat of taking hormones and medication away.

 

[JoeB131]

This is the ACTUAL reason.

What if you cannot get hormones to the front lines.

It is why asthmatics cannot serve, you cant rely on meds in war.

Great post. Most on the left AND right will miss this accurate assessment totally.

Actually, that's kind of a dumb reason. Asthmatics are unable to fulfill the physical requirements. They usually don't have the stanima.

Assuming that a transgender can't get her meds on a regular basis, that's not really going to effect her combat performance. It just means she'll get 5 o'clock shadow.

Also, let's get real. in the Iraq war, they were able to get bottled water to the the troops because the water in Iraq was unfit to drink. They'd have no problem getting meds.

Bottled water keeps Soldiers

FORWARD OPERATING BASE WARRIOR, KIRKUK, Iraq- It takes 864,000 bottles of water a month to keep Soldiers on Forward Operating Base Warrior, Kirkuk, Iraq, hydrated, and during the peak summer season that number nearly doubles.

www.army.mil

FORWARD OPERATING BASE WARRIOR, KIRKUK, Iraq- It takes 864,000 bottles of water a month to keep Soldiers on Forward Operating Base Warrior, Kirkuk, Iraq, hydrated, and during the peak summer season that number nearly doubles.

This staggering amount of water is delivered around the FOB by a single platoon of Soldiers from Company A, 15th Brigade Support Battalion, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 1st Cavalry Division.

According to Sgt. 1st Class Baulino Moralez, a Edinburg, Texas, native and the fuel and water platoon sergeant in Co. A, the water supports nearly 5,000 Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and civilians on the installation, and also goes to bases in the surrounding area.

Moralez also said in Iraq, it is often unsafe for non-nationals who do not have proper immunities to drink from local water sources, making bottled water essential.

 

[JoeB131]

She wasn't incompetent as much as tiny. As any kind of protection, she is so small as to be useless.

Well, Trump survived, so the Secret Service did just fine.