Donald Praise Duterte War on Drugs?

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And you think government is the best organization to decide what is harmles and what is harmful? You think customers can't figure that out from internet with their own brain?

Even crossing the road is dangerous. Who should decide if it is worth the risk?

 

[Andylusion]

Fascism looks great from a distance. You people should know better.

Anarchy looks great from a distance. You people should know better.

Oh, cool spin! Did you learn that in second grade?

Did you? You started off with stupidity. All I did was throw it back at you.

lol. You people.... You make a dumb response, and you get a dumb reply, and then act all indignant.

Left-winger "You said something as dumb as what I said, back at me! How could you?!"

If you want intelligent responses, you must make intelligent replies. Not more complicated than that sparky.

 

[Onyx]

Settle down spaz.

 

[TexM3]

Should we start offing the users of alcohol and caffeine as well? /s

 

[Andylusion]

And you think government is the best organization to decide what is harmles and what is harmful? You think customers can't figure that out from internet with their own brain?

Even crossing the road is dangerous. Who should decide if it is worth the risk?

Right.

Well you are somewhat correct. We used to have a system where people had faith in G-d, and followed the teachings of the Bible, and their pastors of their Church would give them guidance on such things.

Obviously we've ditched that system. So something has to take it's place. That's the state unfortunately. I would agree with your argument otherwise.

The problem is, you live under the illusion that people can't make their own decisions about everything, and not harm anyone. All I have to do is read one page of the newspaper, or five minutes of CNN, to tell you clearly your theory is wrong.

Just go to the local "correctional facility" and you'll find thousands of cases where people thought they could decide what was right and wrong for themselves. They were wrong. You are wrong.

And by the way, I'm not even just talking about their own actions. I read the story of a guy, he grew up where his father was a stoner. He'd sit in the shed in the back, and puffing, and wasting his life away. Mother was never home because she was the only bread winner. The guy said as a kid he would sit around and hope his pathetic father died. Finely he started doing drugs to escape the pain his father caused. From there he ended up robbing places, and ended up in prison.

You tell me that pot is harmless, you are a liar, or ignorant. I'm sure that father on here would say he was peaceful and harmless, and drugs are fine. Look at the devastation he brought to his family, and society. We have to do with the damage this pot head caused.

 

[Onyx]

Should we start offing the users of alcohol and caffeine as well? /s

Andylusion seems to secretly be hoping for another inquisition.

 

[TexM3]

Should we start offing the users of alcohol and caffeine as well? /s

Andylusion seems to secretly be hoping for another inquisition.

Or he's a Puritan.

 

[Andylusion]

Should we start offing the users of alcohol and caffeine as well? /s

Caffeine? Really? How many crimes are linked to Caffeine? At least try and be smart enough that your posts are worth reading.

As for Alcohol, go look up the crime statistics linking intoxication and crime. In fact, go look up the reasons the women's movement in the 1910 pushed to ban alcohol.

Yeah, there are reasons for this.

 

[Andylusion]

Should we start offing the users of alcohol and caffeine as well? /s

Andylusion seems to secretly be hoping for another inquisition.

Or he's a Puritan.

And don't you forget it. Actually, Puritan's were more reasonable.

 

[Andylusion]

Should we start offing the users of alcohol and caffeine as well? /s

Andylusion seems to secretly be hoping for another inquisition.

Yeah, and I am not ashamed of it.

I'm tired of ruined lives. Ruined neighborhoods. Tired of thieves and vandals, and criminals roaming the streets.

Did you come home to your house ransacked, stuffed ruined, or stolen, trying to sort through everything, to figure out what was taken, and what was damaged?

Yeah, *I* did. I came home to a disaster area. The tore my place apart, tossed stuff everyone, and grabbed everything that looked like it had value.

They found a stack of blank checks, and started writing checks everywhere. Had to file police reports, close bank accounts, change passwords.

And they never caught these worthless bits of druggy trash.

Yes sir... absolutely sir! I want dead criminals! I want them rounded up, and executed. And I will vote for ANYONE who promises to do that. And I'm not even in a super high crime city.

But even here in Columbus Ohio, we have places the police are scared to go to, and rarely do. That should never happen. The only people that should ever be scared are criminals. I want them TERRIFIED. Kill the scum. Clean up this country. Stop putting them in prison, where the people who they victimized, are forced to pay for their room and board. Instead put those useless, worthless, waste of human flesh, in the ground and make them worm food.

Yes, I'm sick of it. SICK of you. You defend every criminal, and ruin people's lives.

I long for the judgement day, where justice is handed out to you, and those like you. And I won't shed a tear. I'll sleep like a baby with fewer breathing criminals in this country. Just like the public of the Philippians... we'll cheer them on.

 

[Onyx]

I'm tired of ruined lives. Ruined neighborhoods. Tired of thieves and vandals, and criminals roaming the streets.

Ironically your opinions and beliefs are responsible for these realities.

 

[Onyx]

Did you come home to your house ransacked, stuffed ruined, or stolen, trying to sort through everything, to figure out what was taken, and what was damaged?

Yeah, *I* did. I came home to a disaster area. The tore my place apart, tossed stuff everyone, and grabbed everything that looked like it had value.

They found a stack of blank checks, and started writing checks everywhere. Had to file police reports, close bank accounts, change passwords.

And they never caught these worthless bits of druggy trash.

 

[grbb]

I mainly agree with Onyx.

I actually partially agree too with Andi. I too think that government should be TOUGH on crime. I want thieves, burglars, and robbers shot. I want "liberal" gun laws where anyone willing to pay huge gun tax can barricade his house with turrets and machine guns. We will no longer need cops because any vermin that try to even think of stealing anything into my house would be death meat and I would bill their family for cleaning up costs and bullet costs....

I see no reason whatsoever to get tough on people using ecstasy or ganja. If because of their drug use they want to steal something into my house, BINGO. Make my day. Time to test those automatic turrets. Muaha ah aha ha ha ha ha. Another vermin going to hell.

But why should I condemn those using ganja? If after using ganja they become nobel prize winners or boxing champion, should they be killed? Mike Tyson uses ganja. He was the champ. He's more successful than I am. Some world swimming champion uses ganja. Obama uses ganja too. You think he should be executed for justice?

And you know what. This is one of the thing where libertarianism doesn't cut it. Like it or not, the states will be the one deciding it. Some will prefer to live in a state like I do. A libertarian states where thieves, burglars, rioters, and robbers are mass murdered while personal drug use is okay.

Some will prefer to live in a state like Andi. Where drug users are executed so they do not become thieves burglars and rioters.

And I think US is the best system on this. Some state legalize drugs. Some state prohibits it. You don't like it here move somewhere else. One day I want all countries to be like this. Perhaps people that prefer to live in one country can pay the country and say, look, I like your value so much, here is $100k, makes me a citizen.

More well governed countries can obviously demand more money for that citizenship. Who wants to be citizens of Somalia anyway. And people in US, that do not like American value, can just come to some muslim countries and say, hei, my citizenship worth $100k, you like porn and freedom, here, take mine.

We're getting there and that makes me happy.

 

[Andylusion]

I'm tired of ruined lives. Ruined neighborhoods. Tired of thieves and vandals, and criminals roaming the streets.

Ironically your opinions and beliefs are responsible for these realities.

Really? Because when Rudy Giuliani adopted a heavy policy of increased law enforcement, and more cops on the beat, crime fell dramatically.

And of course Davao CIty went from being the most dangerous criminal city, to being safest in the country.

Singapore is the safest city in the world.

It would seem that facts show that every time people try my opinions and beliefs, I'm proven right.

 

[Andylusion]

I mainly agree with Onyx.

I actually partially agree too with Andi. I too think that government should be TOUGH on crime. I want thieves, burglars, and robbers shot. I want "liberal" gun laws where anyone willing to pay huge gun tax can barricade his house with turrets and machine guns. We will no longer need cops because any vermin that try to even think of stealing anything into my house would be death meat and I would bill their family for cleaning up costs and bullet costs....

I see no reason whatsoever to get tough on people using ecstasy or ganja. If because of their drug use they want to steal something into my house, BINGO. Make my day. Time to test those automatic turrets. Muaha ah aha ha ha ha ha. Another vermin going to hell.

But why should I condemn those using ganja? If after using ganja they become nobel prize winners or boxing champion, should they be killed? Mike Tyson uses ganja. He was the champ. He's more successful than I am. Some world swimming champion uses ganja. Obama uses ganja too. You think he should be executed for justice?

And you know what. This is one of the thing where libertarianism doesn't cut it. Like it or not, the states will be the one deciding it. Some will prefer to live in a state like I do. A libertarian states where thieves, burglars, rioters, and robbers are mass murdered while personal drug use is okay.

Some will prefer to live in a state like Andi. Where drug users are executed so they do not become thieves burglars and rioters.

And I think US is the best system on this. Some state legalize drugs. Some state prohibits it. You don't like it here move somewhere else. One day I want all countries to be like this. Perhaps people that prefer to live in one country can pay the country and say, look, I like your value so much, here is $100k, makes me a citizen.

More well governed countries can obviously demand more money for that citizenship. Who wants to be citizens of Somalia anyway. And people in US, that do not like American value, can just come to some muslim countries and say, hei, my citizenship worth $100k, you like porn and freedom, here, take mine.

We're getting there and that makes me happy.

Did you watch the 60 Minutes article on Colorado pot? While the state has made it legal, it's left up to each county to make pot legal or not.

As it turns out, a growing number of counties that legalized pot, are not reconsidering. The crime problems, and health issues regarding 'ganja' are causing people to see the mistake.

The Pot Vote

 

[grbb]

That's fair enough. Let every county decide. Me, I would move to a county where pots and all drugs legal. I simply do not believe that crime and health issue is big. Yeap. I look into it.

The point is, we have disagreement. I think drugs are harmless and you think drugs are dangerous. I think individuals should decide among themselves. You think the state should decide among themselves.

And I think the world is about right in handling this. We both can move to regions that are acceptable to our preferences and beliefs.

Let me check your Pot Vote.

 

[grbb]

I'm tired of ruined lives. Ruined neighborhoods. Tired of thieves and vandals, and criminals roaming the streets.

Ironically your opinions and beliefs are responsible for these realities.

Really? Because when Rudy Giuliani adopted a heavy policy of increased law enforcement, and more cops on the beat, crime fell dramatically.

And of course Davao CIty went from being the most dangerous criminal city, to being safest in the country.

Singapore is the safest city in the world.

It would seem that facts show that every time people try my opinions and beliefs, I'm proven right.

Well, I do not believe jailing pot users will reduce robbery. I think jailing robbers will reduce robbery. But I may be wrong. How do I know if I am right or wrong.

Yea I notice that drug free regions like Singapore is free from robbery too. I also know that legal drug places like Netherland isn't very safe. I have no idea why. If getting rid of drugs really make the world safer, then the state has a case to reduce it. Still, I would rather live in a state that kill their robbers than killing their drug users. Because I simply do not believe it's true.

The case of Singapore of Netherland may be caused by liberalism in Netherland. In Singapore, robbery is also punished heavily too. Also Asians tend to be more conservative than whites when it comes to laws. White people tend to think that if someone is poor, then it's societies' fault. Chinese tend to think that that if someone is poor then he's not diligent enough. Singapore is single race country where the sheer majority of the citizen is chinese. So that could be a factor too.

 

[Andylusion]

That's fair enough. Let every county decide. Me, I would move to a county where pots and all drugs legal. I simply do not believe that crime and health issue is big. Yeap. I look into it.

The point is, we have disagreement. I think drugs are harmless and you think drugs are dangerous. I think individuals should decide among themselves. You think the state should decide among themselves.

And I think the world is about right in handling this. We both can move to regions that are acceptable to our preferences and beliefs.

Let me check your Pot Vote.

Again, I would just point to how every country that follows my views, are places people like to live. Those that have followed your views, are nightmares.

 

[Andylusion]

I'm tired of ruined lives. Ruined neighborhoods. Tired of thieves and vandals, and criminals roaming the streets.

Ironically your opinions and beliefs are responsible for these realities.

Really? Because when Rudy Giuliani adopted a heavy policy of increased law enforcement, and more cops on the beat, crime fell dramatically.

And of course Davao CIty went from being the most dangerous criminal city, to being safest in the country.

Singapore is the safest city in the world.

It would seem that facts show that every time people try my opinions and beliefs, I'm proven right.

Well, I do not believe jailing pot users will reduce robbery. I think jailing robbers will reduce robbery. But I may be wrong. How do I know if I am right or wrong.

Yea I notice that drug free regions like Singapore is free from robbery too. I also know that legal drug places like Netherland isn't very safe. I have no idea why. If getting rid of drugs really make the world safer, then the state has a case to reduce it. Still, I would rather live in a state that kill their robbers than killing their drug users. Because I simply do not believe it's true.

The case of Singapore of Netherland may be caused by liberalism in Netherland. In Singapore, robbery is also punished heavily too. Also Asians tend to be more conservative than whites when it comes to laws. White people tend to think that if someone is poor, then it's societies' fault. Chinese tend to think that that if someone is poor then he's not diligent enough. Singapore is single race country where the sheer majority of the citizen is chinese. So that could be a factor too.

Yeah, the Netherlands is getting worse by the minute. Crime is up. Drug trafficking is up.

And for the first time in decades, they had riots in the streets.

Every time people push this pro drug crap, I'm proven right about it.

 

[grbb]

That's where we disagree. I think they have riots because of other things. Muslim immigrants?

I read your pot vote

The Pot Vote

Your story on Pot Vote I disagree with Dr. Simmerville. I am a mother of three girls and I smoked at least once a day with my third child who was born in 2006. She is incredibly smart. She has a memory like a sponge, and so intelligent bright young lady which was noticeable right from the start. She was reading before kindergarten. She was such ahead of her other classmates by 1st grade I transferred her to a Charter School which academically challenges students. She does struggle in math and reading comprehension but she has very high scores in memory, reading rates, science, and especially spelling. I like the doctors or scientist tell me how does marijuana affect the brains of babies when born with marijuana which the doctor says is "7 times more potency in their systems". What are the damages to the brain? What is the data and percentages of children born with marijuana, like do they grow up not being able to do math or read or function in society? What exactly is the brain damage doing to a child that by age 20 that this report says that the adult is going to have problems with? I really like a report on that evidence. The doctors were so vague, all they say is it causes brain damage. Scientist and doctors don't know what they are talking about in my opinion because marijuana is still so new they don't have the data they just assume because of a few have reported those symptoms. The fact is it affects people in different ways depending on the kind, potency, frequency, and body type. I also like to add my two older children who I didn't smoke any pot with during my pregnancy they struggled all their life in the public schools all over Colorado. They struggled in one of the worst districts Adams Schools especially when they got to high school. They are still struggling to this day because of learning disabilities. One of my older daughter's wants to be a teacher and she can't even pass the accuplacer test to get into Community College and made very low scores on the ACT. I like the doctors to explain those differences with my children when it came to me smoking my medicine as I see it. If it wasn't for "pot" I wouldn't be able walk with being in constant pain because of a Motor Vehicle accident. I'm not saying smoking pot makes your child smart but in my children's learning abilities I saw a significant difference with marijuana not affecting my third's child learning abilities because of me smoking with her my whole pregnancy. Thanks for reading.

After all if, pot is really dangerous for your child intelligent, you should go all the way prohibiting those with low IQ from breeding.

Breeding while being poor or having a low IQ has far more significant damage to the child's IQ than ganja. Or you can require every kids to have certain IQ or otherwise the parents are fined.

Again, there isn't enough "study". I am a chance taker. I bet the harm is minimum.

People, after all, should be mainly judged based on result.