Donald Praise Duterte War on Drugs?

[Harry Dresden]

Trump has been very pro police during his campaign. That is good. Unfortunately it also means the drug war is going to keep going.

i have heard him say more than once that he has no problem with Med.Pot and as far as legalizing it,it sounded like he would be more open to at least decriminalizing it......moving it off schedule 1 anyway...

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Duterte IS doing the right thing. We should emulate his actions. He deserves nothing but praise.

He is murdering people without due process. Typical Trump supporter, the stupider he gets, the more you back him.

If they are tested and have drugs in their system or if they are searched and have drugs on them, due process is satisfied.

 

[NoNukes]

Duterte IS doing the right thing. We should emulate his actions. He deserves nothing but praise.

He is murdering people without due process. Typical Trump supporter, the stupider he gets, the more you back him.

If they are tested and have drugs in their system or if they are searched and have drugs on them, due process is satisfied.

They are just going out and killing supposed drug dealers. Your reply was still stupid.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Duterte IS doing the right thing. We should emulate his actions. He deserves nothing but praise.

He is murdering people without due process. Typical Trump supporter, the stupider he gets, the more you back him.

If they are tested and have drugs in their system or if they are searched and have drugs on them, due process is satisfied.

thats not what is happening over there in quit a few instances...if you are suspected you can be shot,which leads to someone killing someone they did not like.....

 

[grbb]

There are many reports that make ganja looks dangerous. Like birth defect.

But there is no clear report of what the defect is.

They just said that babies are born with ganja as if it's already something bad by it self.

They don't explain what actually happen to the baby? Do they have low IQ? What?

Yes they don't know. It is possible. So you ban something based on what you don't know?

 

[miketx]

A crime against humanity. Sick.

Legalize pot!!!!

We already have data from Colorado showing an increase in infants born with defects from pot smoking women.

You people are a disgrace. I agree, kill the druggies. They are a burden on society. Either quit, and start being a worth while law abiding human being, or go somewhere else.

im sorry i did not see anything backing that up.....and as with alcohol,cigarettes, and pot....you should not do it while pregnant.....its ok to **** though.....

Back in the day, Hustler magazine had a cartoon depicting a baby being born and then spiting out a condom. Probably a liberal.

 

[grbb]

I am liberal on many issues and conservative on many others.

I think it's not about right and wrong. It's whether I like it or not.

I like racism as much as I like religions. Not at all. And I can choose to be less affected by it.

 

[Andylusion]

There are many reports that make ganja looks dangerous. Like birth defect.

But there is no clear report of what the defect is.

They just said that babies are born with ganja as if it's already something bad by it self.

They don't explain what actually happen to the baby? Do they have low IQ? What?

Yes they don't know. It is possible. So you ban something based on what you don't know?

Well the reports I posted, clearly showed lower IQ. THC harms mental development.

It's not ambiguous. It's proven fact.

A fully developed human, will not have many long term effects from THC.

However, you will still have the normal effects of inhaling burnt substances. Smoking cigarettes and smoking pot, are equally dangerous in that regard. Humans were not designed to suck on a burning twig, and inhale smoke.

The main point remains, THC causes damage to developing brains. From birth through adolescence, THC will literally make you stupid. The higher the concentration of THC, and the younger you are when you get it in you, the dumber an Ape you will end up being.

I was watching this youtube video about pot heads in Colorado, and they were following around this one idiot who was talking about how great it was, and how he could now smoke pot openly, and how he'd been smoking his whole life, how he had to hide when he was in middle school.....

This guy was in his 40s, and he sounded... acted... had the presence and mentality of a 12 year old. Of course he was single and working at a fast food joint as a cashier.

I was sitting there laughing.... thinking all those 1980s 'this is your brain on drugs' commercials were right. You also should smoke pot, so you can be a 40 year old pre-teen too.

It's not like the media doesn't get this. You don't see smart intelligent successful people in the movies smoking pot. It's always half-baked idiots, acting like mindless fools. The movies mock pot heads for a reason.

 

[badger2]

No, more rad than Trump's wall. They are also killing addicts who feed from the dealers. They leave them right there, don't even throw them to the crocodiles. One supposedly responded to Duterte's call for treatment and was killed anyway (shabu). Yes, meth can make you promise the moon.

 

[Andylusion]

No, more rad than Trump's wall. They are also killing addicts who feed from the dealers. They leave them right there, don't even throw them to the crocodiles. One supposedly responded to Duterte's call for treatment and was killed anyway (shabu). Yes, meth can make you promise the moon.

Duterte IS doing the right thing. We should emulate his actions. He deserves nothing but praise.

He is murdering people without due process. Typical Trump supporter, the stupider he gets, the more you back him.

If they are tested and have drugs in their system or if they are searched and have drugs on them, due process is satisfied.

thats not what is happening over there in quit a few instances...if you are suspected you can be shot,which leads to someone killing someone they did not like.....

That's all true. I'm sure there are at least some who are using the cover of the war on drugs to get back at people they have a problem with.

Of course that has never happened before...... right? Like in the middle east where they accuse someone of burning the Qur'an to get them stoned... or in Gaza and West Bank where they accuse you have collaborating with Jews, to have you lynched.... or in Soviet time, accused you of being religious to have you sent to the gulags to die... or in authoritarian states accusing you have talking against the regime to have a show trial and execution....

Or even in the US, where a girl accuses a guy of raping her, so her boyfriend can get the spot on the football team.

We've never seen that injustice done before... right?

 

[Andylusion]

Duterte IS doing the right thing. We should emulate his actions. He deserves nothing but praise.

He is murdering people without due process. Typical Trump supporter, the stupider he gets, the more you back him.

If they are tested and have drugs in their system or if they are searched and have drugs on them, due process is satisfied.

They are just going out and killing supposed drug dealers. Your reply was still stupid.

Well I just listened to a BBC documentary on this. Both of you, are a little off, and a little correct.

The official policy is that the police find drug dealers and have them tried and executed. To this end, the BBC could not (at least not in the documentary I was listening to) find any example where the official police force, or government agency, was simply finding people and killing them.

However, there vigilantes operating in the country now. And they don't answer to the police. They find drug dealers, and drug users, and they shoot them.

Where you question it, is that you say "supposedly". Meaning as the other person suggests they were drug dealers and users.

In the BBC documentary, nearly every single person shot and killed was either selling, or using drugs.

Moreover, what the BBC found was wide spread support for it. The public was overwhelmingly in favor of the action, and even more amazing, some of the families of the people shot and killed were in favor of it.

The BBC woman reporter, was on the site of a shooting, where a guy was on the ground, and his family came out, and some where sad, and she asked them about it.... They said this was sad but the best outcome.

She was shocked. Oh yeah, this guy was only doing drugs, he was useless, never worked, was neglecting his family, constantly broke, constantly being a jerk to everyone. Even his own brother said he was glad the guy was finally gone. Now he could help his widow wife, and help his kids, without him taking the money and buying drugs, and being a worthless bum.

The reporter was in the middle of a busy area of town, covering a drug dealer that was shot, and started interviewing the people standing around.

Are you not scared? Are you worried? Are you troubled by this?

No. They were happy about it. Crime was drastically down. Rape was down. Murder was down (excluding vigilantes cleaning the streets of druggies). Vandalism was down. Theft was down.

Even just pick pocketing was drastically lower. Tourism was coming back to areas that formerly tourists never went to being they would be pick pocketed and robbed constantly.

Drug using is the source of thousands of crimes. And ever drug users, and drug pusher killed, cuts the crime rate across the entire country.

Do you people even know where Duterte came from? He was elected mayor of Davao City that was considered "no mans land". (Again, as it was described by the BBC documentary) A town over run with drugs and crime, and dealers and users. Prostitution, including sex tourism, human trafficking, and even child prostitution.

This is a city, that at one point had a crime rate of 100 incidences of crime... per 1,000 people. That's insane.

Duterte cleaned up Davao City. He cleaned out the prostitutes. Ended the sex trade. Get rid of the human traffickers. Killed all the child prostitute people. Cleaned out the drugs. Killed the dealers, and most of the users. Dropped the murder rate to a fraction of what it was.

Davao City today is now considered the safest city in the entire country. That's all there is too it.

Do we like his methods? No. Are there some people taking advantage of it? Sure.

But the bottom line is, he's cleaning up the country. You don't like it, because unless American changes direction, that's our future, and life will get very dangerous for druggies here.

I doubt it will happen under Trump. Highly doubt it. But, if we end up with all the problems the
Philippines has had due to drugs... which is the direction we're going.... yeah.... someone just like Duterte will end up here in the US, and a bunch of you pot head will find out what poetic justice is all about.

 

[grbb]

What about so many peaceful drug dealers that earn money productively. They got shot too.

Many drugs like extacy ganja and LSD are beneficial and hardly dangerous at all. Even Obama, nobel prize winners, and silicon valley programmers use them

Now they get shot for doing no harm to other people?

That's the problem.

If that worthless bump get shot for not having a job. I can understand. Drug or no drug he's not productive.

That should give people incentive to learn coding math and engineering.

But what about peaceful productive drug users?

 

[badger2]

#32 is hiding in the pews and uses the same logic as does Theo when twice splitting the church-and-state pathology into denominations.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

What about so many peaceful drug dealers that earn money productively. They got shot too.

Many drugs like extacy ganja and LSD are beneficial and hardly dangerous at all. Even Obama, nobel prize winners, and silicon valley programmers use them

Now they get shot for doing no harm to other people?

That's the problem.

If that worthless bump get shot for not having a job. I can understand. Drug or no drug he's not productive.

That should give people incentive to learn coding math and engineering.

But what about peaceful productive drug users?

Thry get shot too. It's voluntary.

 

[Andylusion]

What about so many peaceful drug dealers that earn money productively. They got shot too.

Many drugs like extacy ganja and LSD are beneficial and hardly dangerous at all. Even Obama, nobel prize winners, and silicon valley programmers use them

Now they get shot for doing no harm to other people?

That's the problem.

If that worthless bump get shot for not having a job. I can understand. Drug or no drug he's not productive.

That should give people incentive to learn coding math and engineering.

But what about peaceful productive drug users?

Kind of like "what about the peaceful productive kiddy porn producers?" Or "what about the peaceful productive child prostitution ring pimps?" Or "what about the peaceful productive tax evaders?" Or "what about the peaceful productive cock fighters?"

You see a problem? We have laws. You obey those laws, or you are a law breaker. A peaceful productive law breaker, is still a law breaker, and I don't care what happens to criminals.

That's how life is. You can be a peaceful and productive speeder on the highway, and if you violate the law, you'll lose your license, then you'll lose your car, then you'll lose your freedom.

Same is true of drugs. Illegal, is illegal. I don't give a crap how peaceful and productive you are... you don't get a pass on violating the law, because you are peaceful and productive.

We used to understand this, in this country. It used to be that if you hung out with cattle thieves, and they caught you with cattle thieves, they would hang your by your neck in tree, right along with the cattle thieves. Didn't matter how peaceful and productive you are.

Because you hanging out with them... you become an enabler to them.

Similarly, yeah you might be a peaceful and productive druggy, but your money, and your time, and you actions make it acceptable in society. You may not be pulling the trigger on a gun killing an innocent man, but when you buy all that dope from the dealer, who uses the money he made from you to buy a gun and kill an innocent man... you are an accomplice. You are directly responsible for feeding the system that caused harm. And since using drugs is illegal to begin with, you have no excuse.

Why do you think crime fell so dramatically in Davao City? It wasn't because all the pot heads, stoned out, stopped committing crime. Its because all the pot heads were no longer buying drugs from the dealers who were causing all the crime.

Yeah, you might be peaceful and productive..... are all the people your drug habit funding peaceful and productive? No.

That said, fact is, I don't see mean peaceful and productive stoners anyway. Where are these Unicorns at? Every pot head I've met, and I've met hundreds, are all the least productive people in society. For every 1 single example of the supposed doctor who puffs the bong, there are about 1,000 burger joint stoners who can't show up on time, and barely work while they are there, and likely will never do anything better the rest of their pathetic lives.

 

[Onyx]

Fascism looks great from a distance. You people should know better.

 

[Andylusion]

Fascism looks great from a distance. You people should know better.

Anarchy looks great from a distance. You people should know better.

 

[grbb]

What about so many peaceful drug dealers that earn money productively. They got shot too.

Many drugs like extacy ganja and LSD are beneficial and hardly dangerous at all. Even Obama, nobel prize winners, and silicon valley programmers use them

Now they get shot for doing no harm to other people?

That's the problem.

If that worthless bump get shot for not having a job. I can understand. Drug or no drug he's not productive.

That should give people incentive to learn coding math and engineering.

But what about peaceful productive drug users?

Kind of like "what about the peaceful productive kiddy porn producers?" Or "what about the peaceful productive child prostitution ring pimps?" Or "what about the peaceful productive tax evaders?" Or "what about the peaceful productive cock fighters?"

You see a problem? We have laws. You obey those laws, or you are a law breaker. A peaceful productive law breaker, is still a law breaker, and I don't care what happens to criminals.

That's how life is. You can be a peaceful and productive speeder on the highway, and if you violate the law, you'll lose your license, then you'll lose your car, then you'll lose your freedom.

Same is true of drugs. Illegal, is illegal. I don't give a crap how peaceful and productive you are... you don't get a pass on violating the law, because you are peaceful and productive.

We used to understand this, in this country. It used to be that if you hung out with cattle thieves, and they caught you with cattle thieves, they would hang your by your neck in tree, right along with the cattle thieves. Didn't matter how peaceful and productive you are.

Because you hanging out with them... you become an enabler to them.

Similarly, yeah you might be a peaceful and productive druggy, but your money, and your time, and you actions make it acceptable in society. You may not be pulling the trigger on a gun killing an innocent man, but when you buy all that dope from the dealer, who uses the money he made from you to buy a gun and kill an innocent man... you are an accomplice. You are directly responsible for feeding the system that caused harm. And since using drugs is illegal to begin with, you have no excuse.

Why do you think crime fell so dramatically in Davao City? It wasn't because all the pot heads, stoned out, stopped committing crime. Its because all the pot heads were no longer buying drugs from the dealers who were causing all the crime.

Yeah, you might be peaceful and productive..... are all the people your drug habit funding peaceful and productive? No.

That said, fact is, I don't see mean peaceful and productive stoners anyway. Where are these Unicorns at? Every pot head I've met, and I've met hundreds, are all the least productive people in society. For every 1 single example of the supposed doctor who puffs the bong, there are about 1,000 burger joint stoners who can't show up on time, and barely work while they are there, and likely will never do anything better the rest of their pathetic lives.

The law is the law. Well, according to Nazi laws the jews deserve to die. According to communist law businessmen deserve to die. According to Muslim fatwa, the jews civilians deserve to die because they support IDF that are killing them.

Why would you let a few corrupt officials that have incentive to prohibit anything they can get away, and a bunch of ignorance voter run every body's life?

I know many people using extacy that are far richer than normal people. In fact, like wine, people need to be rich to buy extacy. They're willing to pay huge tax for it if it were legal. And it's completely harmless.

If anyone is "evil", it's those opposing free market or wanting to penalize harmless stuffs.

What's the difference between anti drug people wanting to ban drugs, and muslim mullahs wanting to ban homosexuality?

They're just people wanting to run others' life. They themselves are not peaceful and productive and yet they **** those who are.

 

[Andylusion]

What about so many peaceful drug dealers that earn money productively. They got shot too.

Many drugs like extacy ganja and LSD are beneficial and hardly dangerous at all. Even Obama, nobel prize winners, and silicon valley programmers use them

Now they get shot for doing no harm to other people?

That's the problem.

If that worthless bump get shot for not having a job. I can understand. Drug or no drug he's not productive.

That should give people incentive to learn coding math and engineering.

But what about peaceful productive drug users?

Kind of like "what about the peaceful productive kiddy porn producers?" Or "what about the peaceful productive child prostitution ring pimps?" Or "what about the peaceful productive tax evaders?" Or "what about the peaceful productive cock fighters?"

You see a problem? We have laws. You obey those laws, or you are a law breaker. A peaceful productive law breaker, is still a law breaker, and I don't care what happens to criminals.

That's how life is. You can be a peaceful and productive speeder on the highway, and if you violate the law, you'll lose your license, then you'll lose your car, then you'll lose your freedom.

Same is true of drugs. Illegal, is illegal. I don't give a crap how peaceful and productive you are... you don't get a pass on violating the law, because you are peaceful and productive.

We used to understand this, in this country. It used to be that if you hung out with cattle thieves, and they caught you with cattle thieves, they would hang your by your neck in tree, right along with the cattle thieves. Didn't matter how peaceful and productive you are.

Because you hanging out with them... you become an enabler to them.

Similarly, yeah you might be a peaceful and productive druggy, but your money, and your time, and you actions make it acceptable in society. You may not be pulling the trigger on a gun killing an innocent man, but when you buy all that dope from the dealer, who uses the money he made from you to buy a gun and kill an innocent man... you are an accomplice. You are directly responsible for feeding the system that caused harm. And since using drugs is illegal to begin with, you have no excuse.

Why do you think crime fell so dramatically in Davao City? It wasn't because all the pot heads, stoned out, stopped committing crime. Its because all the pot heads were no longer buying drugs from the dealers who were causing all the crime.

Yeah, you might be peaceful and productive..... are all the people your drug habit funding peaceful and productive? No.

That said, fact is, I don't see mean peaceful and productive stoners anyway. Where are these Unicorns at? Every pot head I've met, and I've met hundreds, are all the least productive people in society. For every 1 single example of the supposed doctor who puffs the bong, there are about 1,000 burger joint stoners who can't show up on time, and barely work while they are there, and likely will never do anything better the rest of their pathetic lives.

The law is the law. Well, according to Nazi laws the jews deserve to die. According to communist law businessmen deserve to die. According to Muslim fatwa, the jews civilians deserve to die because they support IDF that are killing them.

Why would you let a few corrupt officials that have incentive to prohibit anything they can get away, and a bunch of ignorance voter run every body's life?

I know many people using extacy that are far richer than normal people. In fact, like wine, people need to be rich to buy extacy. They're willing to pay huge tax for it if it were legal. And it's completely harmless.

If anyone is "evil", it's those opposing free market or wanting to penalize harmless stuffs.

What's the difference between anti drug people wanting to ban drugs, and muslim mullahs wanting to ban homosexuality?

They're just people wanting to run others' life. They themselves are not peaceful and productive and yet they **** those who are.

Fail. This isn't the Nazis, and we're not killing Jews.

It it's harmless. I already showed exactly how it is harmful.

You want more evidence?
Marijuana-related deaths, suspensions & problems spike in Colorado – report
Advocacy Group: Commercialization Of Legal Pot Has Led To 'Epidemic' For Colorado Kids

It's not harmless. Extacy isn't harmless.

 

[Onyx]

Fascism looks great from a distance. You people should know better.

Anarchy looks great from a distance. You people should know better.

Oh, cool spin! Did you learn that in second grade?