Don t Let Anybody Tell You That Businesses Create Jobs

[Oldstyle]

And you do realize that if you were to raise the minimum wage to $23.50 an hour that there would be a corresponding rise in the wages of everyone else to maintain pay structure? How do you prevent inflation when you increase labor costs by such a huge amount in one fell swoop?

 

[EconChick]

My point is that that was NOT was what Billary was talking about.

My other point would be that trickle down indeed works despite the Left's whining about it.

It is the way of the world and it always will be.

Show me an example where trickle down worked.

I haven't read much of this thread since you showed up, but let me just tell you something I've observed as a MACRO ******* ECONOMIST.

I know dozens and dozens and dozens of very wealthy people, very talented people, very "educated" people, people with fancy titles like General or Company President or Doctor or Lawyer who don't know shit about how the macro economy works.

Don't know shit.

I can now add you to my long list.

 

[EconChick]

sounds to me you got those colleges degrees out of a cracker box. lmao.

Of course your weak mind would have to think that....otherwise, that teeny frail ego of yours would completely collapse if you knew the fancy places they came from.

But back to creating jobs...Socialism doesn't work darling...

 

[emilynghiem]

No they're not----Americans need to just get out there and spend spend spend.

And here's the way...

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2013 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-off’s/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees with the Feds refunding city, State, and fees.

-Companies with 300 employees or less, employee expenses above the deduction are subsidized at 100% with funds usually give back to the States.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2013 price structure. Remove the FICA limit.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years which will eliminate inflation.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

-Make inversion illegal.

Hi 1%
1. If you believe in paying 23.50 per hour, why not set an example and pay this yourself to the workers of your company who
built it for you? Go back amd calculate paying them 23.50 an hour and see if you would still make tens of millions selling your
Company.
2. When the Greens help cmunities issues local currency, they set up the rates themselves. They dont wait for govt or fed. So they practice what they preach, dont preach to others what to practice.
Its all by free market choice!
3. Thanks for answering honestly that you did NOT treat the employees as equal owners and builders of your company. You can always go back and pay them equal shares if you REALLY believed and valued them equally.

So you agree that you should have
More say as the owner.

Wouldnt it be exploitation not to pay them equally if you really believe your employees built your company and did all the work for you?

So now I will change the Bullring challenge to either pay your workers backpay at 23.50 per hour ie the difference you owe them
Or split the sales value with them

Or admit you either DONT believe the workers really did all that work for you but you created and provided equal services to them in jobs and what you paid per hour already, which is the point about businesses providing stable work for ppl,
Or admit you are a hypocrite for saying one thing but not doing it
With your company when you did
Exactly what the people are saying-that the owners like you
Provide a higher level of mgmt than the workers in building and making the busness work.

I challenge you to pay back 5 million to your workers or else
Raise 5 million in capital to create campus that teaches workers to build their own businesses like you did.

so you will NOT be a hypocrite but you will practice the points you preach. Let's build a campus to train ppl, i'm with you on this as a fellow Democrat, Green supporter of sustainable fair trade, and of the
Occupy volunteers that liked the plan to set up historic houses for Vets in a campus setting with work and educational internships and services on site. Thanks! I hope you accept the Bullring challemge
To prove you really believe in
Practicing your own principles....

 

[EconChick]

oh look at me I have a bunch of college diplomas and I waste my time here. lol

You call pounding you Socialists into oblivion in the next 5 days a waste of time???

LOL, hell it's almost as good as sex.

I wouldn't expect some welfare loving, lazy ass, whiner to understand what motivates people who care about their country. People like you just care about....YOU.

As for the topic....no, you Socialists know nothing about job creation.

 

[EconChick]

It's kind of odd that you fuckers still argue this point. It's not even complicated.

I'm a business owner. I ain't hiring anyone if I don't need them. I only need them if there is damned for what I am selling. I'm not running a charity.

The **** you are,

You might be a drug dealer, but you wouldn't know a P&L if I smacked you upside the head with it.

LMAO, Uncensored.....I think you just made my day, no ...my entire week.

There's no way he understands how businesses create jobs.

Dayyyyum that was funny,

 

[EconChick]

Operating a business is a teeny tiny bit more complicated than that.

I realize the Left doesn't understand that.

1. Five years operating capital
2. Know who to hire (which can be farmed out)
3. Never ever, ever, ever hire family

What's so complicated about that?

You're right, there's absolutely nothing complicated about what you wrote.

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It's scary when I completely agree with Mac on a bunch of posts in a row, LOL

 

[EconChick]

Now you are moving goal posts. It's much more complicated than being an employee BUT it is doable if you are willing to bust your butt doing something you are good at and willing to take the chance. If you need big capital you need to find others willing to take the chance with you.

Goal posts never moved.

It is more complicated than being an employee, I never stated it wasn't. That's why I stated if you can't make at least three times more why do it.

If you bust your butt you're doing it wrong. Employees are the ones that bust their butt to make you all of your money.

You do need 'big capital.' You take your business plan to the 'big capital' guy who either funds or not funds. If she/he doesn't fund, you go back and redo 'cause you missed something.

I love it when a Democrat elitist talks about making employees bust their buts for him. LOL.

Hypocrisy much? LMAO

 

[EconChick]

Are you looking for tips, maybe start a economic advisory service?

You have federal and state quarterly taxes to pay, based on your on going records, inventory, sales, advertising, satisfying people from all walks of life, some not so pleasant, utilities, maintenance, inspections, licensing, insurance, location, overhead, etc. for starters. Add an employee and it gets complicated.

You hire a General Manager, accounting firm, and an advertising company.

Come on guys....don't you know you just snap your fingers and voila, you have a GM, an accounting firm, an ad service....LOL....that didn't take any effort...no money.

 

[bripat9643]

Shhh, don't tell Republicans that it's "demand" that actually creates jobs.

They think the "job CREATORS" who create jobs.

Demand comes from people with jobs, so saying "demand creates jobs" is circular logic. What you're saying is that jobs create themselves, or that demand creates demand. Only a libturd could possibly swallow such "logic."

 

[EconChick]

Missed the point much?

No. I'm dead on.

You're a dead on ringer, alright.

You should run for president. Democrat that is.....you're too elitist for us little conservative people.

 

[EconChick]

Thats why they can say "You didnt build that." That's why they think just being smart or just working hard arent enough and you need the gov't to succeed.

No business owner actually built their business. Their employes did. Business owners build a platform and plan expansion.

Now I got it...you're a lawyer. Only a lawyer would MISuse words the way you just tried to say no business owner actually built...but built a platform. LMAO

 

[bripat9643]

No they're not----Americans need to just get out there and spend spend spend.

And here's the way...

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2013 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-off’s/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees with the Feds refunding city, State, and fees.

-Companies with 300 employees or less, employee expenses above the deduction are subsidized at 100% with funds usually give back to the States.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2013 price structure. Remove the FICA limit.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years which will eliminate inflation.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

-Make inversion illegal.

 

[The Rabbi]

I'm curious, 1%er...what was your concentration in Grad School?

They generally don't let 14yr olds in grad school.

 

[Mac1958]

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No one this ignorant about business has actually done it.

He's not for real.

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[The Rabbi]

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No one this ignorant about business has actually done it.

He's not for real.

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Duh.
I've never seen someone who actually ran a business--hell, actually worked in one--express this level of ignorance and stupidity as One Percenter has. He clearly has never been to any school, much less owned anything. One Percenter refers to his functioning brain power. He is a poseur.

 

[Iceweasel]

Now you are moving goal posts. It's much more complicated than being an employee BUT it is doable if you are willing to bust your butt doing something you are good at and willing to take the chance. If you need big capital you need to find others willing to take the chance with you.

Goal posts never moved.

It is more complicated than being an employee, I never stated it wasn't. That's why I stated if you can't make at least three times more why do it.

If you bust your butt you're doing it wrong. Employees are the ones that bust their butt to make you all of your money.

You do need 'big capital.' You take your business plan to the 'big capital' guy who either funds or not funds. If she/he doesn't fund, you go back and redo 'cause you missed something.

I love it when a Democrat elitist talks about making employees bust their buts for him. LOL.

Hypocrisy much? LMAO

He hasn't run a business or ever hired anyone. I doubt he's even had a job yet.

 

[Iceweasel]

You hire a General Manager, accounting firm, and an advertising company.

Yes, because all small businesses have million+ dollar budgets. When you get done flying around in your corporate jet, mom wants you to clean your room.

 

[The Rabbi]

You hire a General Manager, accounting firm, and an advertising company.

Yes, because all small businesses have million+ dollar budgets. When you get done flying around in your corporate jet, mom wants you to clean your room.

His response will be: If you dont have the money for an ad agency, a general manager and an accountant, then you shouldnt be in business.
Amazing how many profitable businesses out there shouldnt be in business.

 

[Iceweasel]

His response will be: If you dont have the money for an ad agency, a general manager and an accountant, then you shouldnt be in business.
Amazing how many profitable businesses out there shouldnt be in business.

I have 28 years in business so far and never needed all that. Or the thousands of businesses I serviced with few exceptions.
He jumped the shark on this one.