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Doesn’t need to be a cell at all. It could be a hotel suite. No leaving, no visitors, no devices, no telephone and no internet.
This is a threat.
Karen ^^^Uh huh. Which is an explicit threat of retaliation, dupe.
Not so cute. Well, the Judge told him him to reign in his mouth or the trial starts sooner.
Fantasy? No.Do you play with yourself when you fantasize like this?
That’s how most defendants are handled. Trump is no different. It’s you dopes doing the whining.Karen ^^^
The DOJ is one big gigantic Karen too.
More homo erotic imagery from the right.Do you play with yourself when you fantasize like this?
Protective orders are common practice. Criminal defendants often have some kind of protective order put on them in cases.She'll be overturned in a heartbeat.
Just another leftard dog and pony show, to keep the idiots salivating.
I don't believe it was even made public what those imams said, and likely it wasn't in English.lmao
You mean like "death to America"
lol
Just reply to what you want because it is indeed getting way to long.I disagree, I think that the removal attempt of a president is a serious thing, and should not be taken lightly. As such, due diligence should be afforded. But, having said that, one day, the left will be on the receiving end of that kind of “shotgun justice”, and maybe you’ll agree with me then.
Again, disagree.
TIMELINE -Key dates in the U.S. political controversy over Ukraine
Some Democrats are calling for the impeachment of U.S. President Donald Trump over reports that he asked his Ukrainian counterpart to launch an investigation that could damage his Democratic political rival Joe Biden.www.reuters.com
This says that shokin was in the process of investigating burisma, but the investigation was dormant at the time Biden visited Ukraine. That doesnt mean the investigation was over, it was just dormant. Biden made sure it was over, after hunter joined burisma, Biden had shokin fired.
Please answer this, because nobody else ever does. If bidens focus was to remove a “corrupt prosecutor”, why is it that he only focused on the one country where his son was doing business? I’m sure there is corruption in other countries that we give money to, yet Biden made no demands of those countries.
But Biden did the exact same thing. He didn’t go through the proper channels, he directly made the demand, as trump did. However, that wasn’t my question. My question is show me the proof that trump did it to benefit his campaign. Your theories and common sense doesn’t satisfy the legal requirement of proof. “Because that’s what I think” also doesn’t do it.
This is the bias I was referring to earlier. Biden has shokin fired and you say there is no way that his action was wrong, but trump asks Zelenskyy to find out why Biden had shokin fired, and that can be nothing but nefarious.
Ok, I agree up to this point. You’re right, he asked them to come to a rally, and he asked them to go to the capitol. And you’re right, if he had not asked them to do either of those things, they wouldn’t have happened. The connection you have to make is where trumps calling then to peacefully and patriotically make their voices heard = “go to the capitol and break in, smash windows, try to get into the senate chambers”.
Are you sure? How do you know? That’s a pretty convenient disassociation, considering Schumer was railing against kavanaugh and gorsuch because of their potential vote on roe, and then this guy attempts to get to kavanaughs house, because of roe. What about all the rhetoric from the rest of the dems in congress? They certainly made, and still make a lot of hay because of roe.
You’re trying to say that , trump can tell his rioters to be peaceful, and when they are not, it’s because of trumps words, but when someone makes an attempt on the life of a scotus judge, well, nobody is to blame but the guy himself. Apparently, something got him riled up enough to do what he did.
What about waters, pelosi, Pressley, Harris, all who encouraged the violent riots that caused destruction to cities, and harm to people? Are they responsible for their rhetoric, or is it just the fault of the people who did the violence?
And there my answer. You say the dems didn’t cause it…but by the same token you blame trump for not making a speech for his supporters to stop until too late, I also blame the dems for not allowing the police to do their job to stop it, and then going on tv to encourage the riots to continue.
You’re saying trump isn’t allowed to hold a rally? He isn’t allowed to use rhetoric?
I agree if trump hadn’t held the rally, that none of it would have happened, however, you don’t become morally responsible unless you are calling for action to violence.
Also, if you’re suggesting we’re going to punish people because of their morals….we’re gonna need a new congress…
Who knows. All these allegations of the bidens getting paid tens of millions by the Chinese…if they flesh out, could be a problem for bidens defense of hunters actions. If they are corrupt in china, seems to reason maybe the allegations in Ukraine might be true.
I don’t need to tell myself that, I have the proof to back it up. I’ll even help you out. Search my post history, you’ll find that I’ve never claimed to support trump, in fact I’ve claimed on a few occasions that I don’t support trump. Use search keywords such as “not a fan”, and “don’t support”, and “doesn’t act presidential” and “would liked to have had someone else win”…or something thereabouts, you’ll find that I’ve never been a supporter of trump. Now, I would vote for him if he’s the nominee, but only because I’d prefer a Republican in office.
The bias you detect is not FOR trump, it’s against the left. As I said before, I don’t vote for the person, I vote for the party.
Ok, I’m sure he believes that trump wanted him to do those things…but that’s irrelevant. “I believe” = the “order” came from his own mind. Show me the president actually telling people to do those things, especially when trump told them to be peaceful. It almost sounds like you’re saying that because trump used rhetoric in his speech, and told them to go to the capitol to protest, that that somehow makes him responsible because people got carried away and took matters way too far. Unless trump had a hand in orchestrating the attack and you can prove that his goal that day was for all that to happen, you can’t pin that on him. People are accountable for their own actions. Also, more information is coming out about FBI infiltration, and say what you want about Epps…he IS on video tape telling people “we need to go INTO the capitol”, and you hear others disagreeing with that notion.
Could it be that maybe those people were prodded into that riot? I’m not discounting personal accountability, but, there are reports that it may have been fbi, antifa, and even the police, dressing up as trump supporters to try and goad the crowd.
If you can show me where trump had intended and told the crowd to attack the capitol, then I’d agree with you. Short of that, you charge him for the riot just because he used some harsh words.
No, it was horrible that he wasn’t more proactive, but that doesn’t imply that he intended for it to happen. We don’t know why he waited so long, there are some indications, but only he know what was going on in his head, and only we know what he spoke publicly, or to those close to him.
Well, they were all adults, and apparently trump still thinks the election was stolen. Why? I don’t know, apparently he has admitted he lost…couldn’t tell you why he thinks that.
No no, I don’t mean in 2016, I mean now. If trump had decided not to run in ‘24, I don’t think any of these indictments would have ever seen the light of day.
Also…uh…this response chain is getting waaay too long, that trying to respond on a phone makes it very time consuming…so I may just start combing responses lol.
I think trying to go around to will of the voters and try to get the vice-president to stop or at least delay the certification is serious. This was the stated goal, and by itself is impeachable. Again, the whole point of Democracy is that the people choose the president. You would have absolutely no problem recognizing that if Biden would claim in 2024 without providing evidence that the election was stolen and therefor Harris would have the right to unilaterally decide to invalidate the votes.I disagree, I think that the removal attempt of a president is a serious thing, and should not be taken lightly.
That is not "shotgun justice" simply... justice.that kind of “shotgun justice”
Yes, it was dormant, as in not active. You also skipped a few things in your link.This says that shokin was in the process of investigating burisma, but the investigation was dormant at the time Biden visited Ukraine. That doesnt mean the investigation was over, it was just dormant.
Who says? Just because only one instance is widely reported that doesn't mean it was the only instance.why is it that he only focused on the one country where his son was doing business?
NO HE DID NOT, the proper channels for approving loans to friendly countries are whatever means the administration chooses to communicate its desires.But Biden did the exact same thing. He didn’t go through the proper channels, he directly made the demand
Proof in a legal sense is simply what someone brings forward to support what is claimed. This to establish the legal requirement for establishing guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. It doesn't mean you have to prove something to a point that any claim no matter how incredulous has to be accepted. I brought up the gangster and the store, but it works in any case where criminal intent plays a role.Your theories and common sense doesn’t satisfy the legal requirement of proof. “Because that’s what I think”
Page 2 point 7Are you sure? How do you know?
Yes page 2 point 7Apparently, something got him riled up enough to do what he did.
Link pleaseWhat about waters, pelosi, Pressley, Harris, all who encouraged the violent riots that caused destruction to cities, and harm to people?
I blame him for lying about the election until the point that these people felt that attacking the Capitol was reasonable.but by the same token you blame trump for not making a speech for his supporters to stop until too late
Link pleaseand then going on tv to encourage the riots to continue.
I'm saying that if you hold that rally and if you use that rethoric you carry the moral responsibility.You’re saying trump isn’t allowed to hold a rally? He isn’t allowed to use rhetoric?
I'm suggesting that if people's morals cause them to plot to stay in power by trying to circumvent the choice of the voters they should be punished. Just like I want people punished who commit sexual assault and just like I want people to be punished if they steal and hide classified documents. It's weird that you don't.Also, if you’re suggesting we’re going to punish people because of their morals
You would vote for someone who both a judge and a jury said committed sexual assault? Who is accused of 78 felony counts?Now, I would vote for him if he’s the nominee, but only because I’d prefer a Republican in office.
He did. He told the lie that caused it, and he asked them to come.Unless trump had a hand in orchestrating the attack
Reports that no matter how non-sensical and how many times debunked you still assert to be valid.I’m not discounting personal accountability, but, there are reports that it may have been fbi, antifa, and even the police, dressing up as trump supporters to try and goad the crowd.
He was proactive. His action was saying" serves you right" (paraphrasing here). I like these euphemisms you're using (badly).No, it was horrible that he wasn’t more proactive
That's kind of par for the course right? Trump is doing something non-sensical and something that's already proven to have the potential of turning violent. But "I don't know why he's doing it, so I won't give a moral judgement".Well, they were all adults, and apparently trump still thinks the election was stolen. Why? I don’t know, apparently he has admitted he lost…couldn’t tell you why he thinks that.