Doge reduced warning and response time for the Texas flood.

[ReinyDays]

This isn't the first time they have missed a forecast and cause deaths you know.

Local media reports NWS San Antonio had called in extra personnel to handle the flooding issues ... they were more than fully staffed when they issued the Watch on July 3rd ... {Cite}

 

[Sunsettommy]

Here you will read the official information showing the NWS did their job well, it was the people in the region who failed to take the warnings serious and some didn't bother with it at all and in one flood prone county doesn't have a warning system in place which is where most of the deaths occurred in.

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Watts Up With That?

The Texas Flooding Tragedy: Could It Have Been Avoided?​

From the Cliff Mass Weather Blog

July 7, 2025

Excerpt:

On Friday morning, heavy rains led to catastrophic flooding along the Guadalupe River in central Texas.

Tragically, it appears that at least fifty people lost their lives.

But what is particularly disturbing is that the National Weather Service (NWS) provided excellent warnings and forecasts before the event that clearly predicted a substantial threat.

And yet, no attempt at evacuation was made.

Furthermore, weather model forecasts indicated the potential for a major precipitation event over this historically flood-prone region during the prior days.

LINK

 

[Sunsettommy]

“The Weather Service’s nearby San Antonio office, which covers other areas hit by the floods, also had significant vacancies, including a warning coordination meteorologist and science officer, Mr. Fahy said. Staff members in those positions are meant to work with local emergency managers to plan for floods, including when and how to warn local residents and help them evacuate.

That office’s warning coordination meteorologist left on April 30, after taking the early retirement package the Trump administration used to reduce the number of federal employees, according to a person with knowledge of his departure.
[…]
Under the Trump administration, the Weather Service, like other federal agencies, has been pushed to reduce its number of employees. By this spring, through layoffs and retirements, the Weather Service had lost nearly 600 people from a work force that until recently was as large as 4,000.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/05/us/politics/texas-floods-warnings-vacancies.html

Less government, more death and destruction.

But at least their taxes are lower than they would otherwise be.

Utter falsehoods as they were well staffed in the region and there warning up to THREE days ahead:

Dr. Cliff Mass a Meteorologist made this post showing the NWS did their job well, at this new thread I just made showing that what Clayton posted is a barrage of lies and heavily politicized.

Go HERE LINK to read in the new THREAD I started that hard evidence straight from the NWS website showing they were doing all the proper warnings and valid predictions that were very accurate.

Stop politicizing this!

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[Sunsettommy]

You go tell the families of those washed away how musk and apparently you don't think a better response was called for.

No that is patently false as the region was well informed of the impending heavy rains and that the NWS produced warnings up to 2 days ahead of possible flooding,

The main death toll was in a FLOOD PRONE region that didn't have a flood evacuation plan to use in case of flooding rains thus the failure is on the leaders of the counties who didn't warn the people.

 

[BULLDOG]

No that is patently false as the region was well informed of the impending heavy rains and that the NWS produced warnings up to 2 days ahead of possible flooding,

The main death toll was in a FLOOD PRONE region that didn't have a flood evacuation plan to use in case of flooding rains thus the failure is on the leaders of the counties who didn't warn the people.

They have reports calling for impending flood in that area literally dozens of time a year. This flood was a different level. The indicators were not the same.

 

[Sunsettommy]

They have reports calling for impending flood in that area literally dozens of time a year. This flood was a different level. The indicators were not the same.

LOL, you didn't address my link at Post #1242 at all where it showed they were well warned up to 2 days ahead on the NWS website with heavy rains forecasted with maps included.

You can't ignore the evidence.

 

[BULLDOG]

LOL, you didn't address my link at Post #1242 at all where it showed they were well warned up to 2 days ahead on the NWS website with heavy rains forecasted with maps included.

You can't ignore the evidence.

I did address the fact that just another report that there might be a flood, the same report that is issued dozens of times per year, was not sufficient for what occurred.

 

[rightwinger]

This isn't the first time they have missed a forecast and cause deaths you know.

Doesn’t impress

We need an NWS fully staffed with qualified professionals.

Trump gutting the agency does not meet that

 

[SweetSue92]

Doge taking a chain saw to our weather monitoring and warning systems and to FEMA has made the tragedy of the Texas flood even worse than it had to be. Those agencies were in place for a reason, and should have never been degraded by someone who didn't even understand why we need those agencies.


Yes, it's quite possible that victims of the recent Texas flood could have received earlier or more effective warnings if not for cuts and policy shifts tied to the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) and former President Donald Trump's administration.


What Happened in Texas?


On July 4, 2025, catastrophic flash flooding struck areas along the Guadalupe River, leading to fatalities and widespread emergency rescues. Local authorities issued urgent warnings, but the scale and speed of the flooding overwhelmed many systems.


How DOGE and Trump’s Policies May Have Affected This


According to investigative reporting from the Texas Observer and San Antonio Current, the Trump administration’s DOGE initiative significantly impacted federal disaster preparedness and response:

• FEMA Cuts: DOGE slashed FEMA’s workforce by about 20% and froze parts of its funding.
• Disaster Aid Shift: Trump announced plans to phase out FEMA and shift disaster response responsibilities to individual states, arguing governors should handle emergencies independently.
• Climate Risk Data Degradation: DOGE reportedly dismantled or degraded federal resources that track and model climate-augmented weather risks, such as flood forecasting and early warning systems.
• Infrastructure Investment Delays: Federal support for flood prevention projects—like levees and drainage upgrades—was reduced or delayed, leaving vulnerable areas more exposed.

Could Earlier Warnings Have Been Possible?


While local agencies like the Harris County Flood Control District did issue warnings, the broader federal infrastructure that supports early detection, modeling, and communication of extreme weather risks may have been weakened. This could have:

• Reduced the lead time for warnings
• Limited the accuracy of flood forecasts
• Slowed coordination between federal and local responders

So while it's speculative to say definitively that lives would have been saved, the evidence strongly suggests that federal cuts and policy shifts under DOGE and Trump made Texas—and its residents—more vulnerable to disasters like this one.

Trump’s DOGE Cuts Are a Texas-Sized Disaster

Reckless agency layoffs and the dismantling of federal relief programs could leave the Lone Star State in peril.

go.skimresources.com

This has been completely debunked now. You should crawl away in shame, but since you're a drooling leftist, shame was left behind a long time ago

 

[SweetSue92]

I did address the fact that just another report that there might be a flood, the same report that is issued dozens of times per year, was not sufficient for what occurred.

That insufficiency was not caused by lack of staff, drooling one

 

[SweetSue92]

Doesn’t impress

We need an NWS fully staffed with qualified professionals.

Trump gutting the agency does not meet that

Is this what you did in your govt job? lie, gaslight, obfuscate?

 

[rightwinger]

Is this what you did in your govt job? lie, gaslight, obfuscate?

Actually, I accomplished quite a lot

Why I appreciate dedicated professionals like NWS

 

[SweetSue92]

Actually, I accomplished quite a lot

Yeah. Lying, gaslighting and obfuscating, obviously, which is all you ever do here

 

[rightwinger]

Yeah. Lying, gaslighting and obfuscating, obviously, which is all you ever do here

Least I didn’t teach “music”


Look Ma…..I can play Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star on a Recorder

 

[citygator]

You tell me. You are the analytics guy (I guess).


And if they had fired them six months before ?

The point is, when jobs save lives you undergo a deeply detailed study of the work to validate that your actions do not cause death. Something like that would take minimum of 6 months but likely 9 months, not 15 days. I run an organization about the size we are talking about and we don’t save lives… we just move and produce stuff so people can make stuff or buy stuff… a 10% reduction takes about 6 months to implement without messing up efficiency.. and again.. we don’t save lives.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Are you kidding me?

Had those kids been taken out of that camp at 6pm the night before, do you think the death rate for those floods would have been the same?

It's not difficult to know the answer is NO.

Did they know at 6 pm the flooding would be that bad and that fast? My guess is, no, they did not.

You're not asking the right questions to approach this issue critically and objectively. All you're doing is speculating and presenting your speculations as known contributing factors when they are not known at this time.

My advice is to wait for the investigation.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Did they know at 6 pm the flooding would be that bad and that fast? My guess is, no, they did not.

You're not asking the right questions to approach this issue critically and objectively. All you're doing is speculating and presenting your speculations as known contributing factors when they are not known at this time.

My advice is to wait for the investigation.

No, they didn't.

HOWEVER you've got kids camping on the side of a river that's experienced flash flooding in the past. What do you do?

A) Pretend you're an idiot and do nothing
B) Pretend you're smart and get the kids out, just in case

????

 

[SweetTea]

Local media reports NWS San Antonio had called in extra personnel to handle the flooding issues ... they were more than fully staffed when they issued the Watch on July 3rd ... {Cite}

Right, I agree. Even fully staffed, they still made missteps. This tragedy had nothing to do with Trump or any cuts.

 

[BULLDOG]

This has been completely debunked now. You should crawl away in shame, but since you're a drooling leftist, shame was left behind a long time ago

You MAGA cult members think claiming something has been debunked makes it so. That Jedi mind trick works on trump's cult but not so much for others. Trump gutted the NWS on Musk's order, and that reduced their effectiveness. No matter how much you tap-dance around it, that is still a fact.

 

[Nostra]

You MAGA cult members think claiming something has been debunked makes it so. That Jedi mind trick works on trump's cult but not so much for others. Trump gutted the NWS on Musk's order, and that reduced their effectiveness. No matter how much you tap-dance around it, that is still a fact.

There was extra staff on hand for the storm, and all alerts went out per NWS guidelines.

Still waiting for you to show us how they handled this any differently than previous flash floods, Scumbag.

BULLDOG