DOGE arrives at the Pentagon

[scruffy]

DOGE arrives at the Pentagon yesterday.

'Nuff said.

Elon Musk’s ‘efficiency’ team meets with defense staff at Pentagon

Donald Trump has said slashing budget and personnel at US defense bureau is priority for world’s richest man

www.theguardian.com

 

[1srelluc]

Get some!

 

[Dekster]

The DoD still uses FORTRAN and COBOL. Good luck finding a DOGE employee who can extract the data from computer languages older than they are.

 

[MarathonMike]

DOGE arrives at the Pentagon yesterday.

'Nuff said.

Elon Musk’s ‘efficiency’ team meets with defense staff at Pentagon

Donald Trump has said slashing budget and personnel at US defense bureau is priority for world’s richest man

www.theguardian.com

OH YEAH....HERE WE GO!!!!!

 

[toobfreak]

DOGE arrives at the Pentagon yesterday.

Not that impressed. What took them so long? Efficient? Ha. I've had a Doge parked in my garage for YEARS.

 

[shockedcanadian]

The DoD still uses FORTRAN and COBOL. Good luck finding a DOGE employee who can extract the data from computer languages older than they are.

COBOL lol.

There are people around, In fact, believe it or not, there are even courses in cobol, sometimes a 5th or 6th language a coder might learn or, if someone wanted to expand their interest to old Mainframes etc.

I use an advanced engine that I was made aware of when studying in a self taught white hat security course and right now, connected online, you'd be surprised to see that 21 devices are running cobol language programs.

Now, you can imagine that there are exponentially more running offline of course, which I presume the DoD would be

Look at the numbers for Windows 3.1 O/S. I believe this was the first O/S I learned on outside of Commodore 64 and Amiga.

Over 4100 computers connected online today. I mean, that's an astounding number though many are probably dormant.

 

[rightwinger]

DOGE arrives at the Pentagon yesterday.

'Nuff said.

Elon Musk’s ‘efficiency’ team meets with defense staff at Pentagon

Donald Trump has said slashing budget and personnel at US defense bureau is priority for world’s richest man

www.theguardian.com

They have an $895 billion budget while no other country spends over $300 billion

We spend almost 40 cents of every defense dollar in the world

A lot of room to cut the fat

 

[MarathonMike]

The DoD still uses FORTRAN and COBOL. Good luck finding a DOGE employee who can extract the data from computer languages older than they are.

Oh come on Fortran and Cobol are so simple to understand, those DOGE kids will have no problem.

 

[toobfreak]

DOGE arrives at the Pentagon yesterday.

Screw the Guardian and their media spin. I mean:

• "Donald Trump has said slashing budget and personnel at US defense bureau is priority for world’s richest man." Really? Trump said that it was a priority for the world's richest man and not just DOGE?
• "Members of Elon Musk’s so-called “department of government efficiency” arrived at the Pentagon Friday." Really? Ever hear anyone refer to the "so-called" EPA, or CIA,or FBI?
• "But Democrats have questioned whether Musk – an unelected official--" Really? who elected Merrick Garland? Alejandro Mayorkas? Leon Panetta? Eric Holder? Loretta Lynch? Ever hear anyone refer to any of these people as "unelected?" Of course not, because they are SUPPOSED to be unelected.

And as to Musk's contracts with SpaceX, Tesla, etc., the problem here is that these are BUSINESSMEN from the private sector, where people serving in government are SUPPOSED to come from! The reason you are not used to hearing that more often is because most everyone in Washington DC has never owned a business, much less actually worked a real job in their entire life.

 

[westwall]

The DoD still uses FORTRAN and COBOL. Good luck finding a DOGE employee who can extract the data from computer languages older than they are.

One of the guys deciphers 2,000 year old text from Herculaneum. Fortran and cobol are a walk in the park for people like him.

 

[toobfreak]

One of the guys deciphers 2,000 year old text from Herculaneum. Fortran and cobol are a walk in the park for people like him.

And the IRS still runs on DOS. Has anyone considered that our DOD running 1950s technology coding is something of a security liability and that the Chinese must laugh at us?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Oh come on Fortran and Cobol are so simple to understand, those DOGE kids will have no problem.

Hey, if I could do it in the early 80s, these kids will fly through it.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

One of the guys deciphers 2,000 year old text from Herculaneum. Fortran and cobol are a walk in the park for people like him.

Not impressed. That is Latin.

 

[westwall]

Not impressed. That is Latin.

No, actually it's ancient Greek. But thanks for playin....

 

[scruffy]

One of the guys deciphers 2,000 year old text from Herculaneum. Fortran and cobol are a walk in the park for people like him.

How hard can it be?

"If A then B"?

The hardest thing I remember about Cobol is formatting the output. You had to tell it, I want 4 digits and 2 decimal places.

That and the hierarchical POS database called IMS, which was so primitive you had to write all your procedures in application code.

Things could be worse I suppose, you could be using RPG.

You have to wonder how the rocket scientists at IBM ever came up with dogs like that. I remember when the 370/158 came out it didn't even have a visual editor, you had to say 4u to move your cursor up 4 lines.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

No, actually it's ancient Greek. But thanks for playin....

Greek? In a Roman City? You sure?

 

[westwall]

Greek? In a Roman City? You sure?

Positive. The scrolls come from a wealthy persons home.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Positive. The scrolls come from a wealthy persons home.

If you say so! I'll buy that!

 

[toobfreak]

Positive. The scrolls come from a wealthy persons home.

Actually, from the time of Herculaneum, it is even possible the city came under the influence of the Osci I believe, which came from the Italic rather than the Hellenic-Ionian language influences, opposite of the Latino-Faliscan branch of the Indo-European tree, part of the Sabellic branch of extinct proto-languages, the area was literally part of the cradle of many modern languages today, which I'm sure has little to do with DOGE coming to the Pentagon, but interesting nevertheless. Point being that Latin came along later to replace all of this.

 

[rightwinger]

And the IRS still runs on DOS. Has anyone considered that our DOD running 1950s technology coding is something of a security liability and that the Chinese must laugh at us?

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