Does the Acceptance of "Jungle Basketball" Help the WNBA?

[Mr. Friscus]

CC is not "pretty" in any conventional sense, except that looking health is attractive. If you saw her waiting tables at Diner, you would not think her out-of-place, as you might with a truly pretty young lady.

Agreed. JoeB131 is way out to lunch.

She is one of the best at playing basketball her way, which is generally within the rules. She is not the best at Jungle Basketball, as she can be neutralized by "handsy" defense that is not called.

Angel Reese, on the other hand, lacks the basketball skill to play professionally (can't dribble, pass, or shoot), but she can definitely excel at Jungle Basketball because she is relatively strong, large, and brutal.

Agreed.

1. There is far different utility to a CC than to a Reese, but they are on way different levels, being that Reese isn't on CC's level at all as far as skill/scoring, movement, basketball IQ, etc. You only have to watch Reese play for 30 seconds to realize she's uncoordinated, unable to shoot, has no finesse or touch, and is often aimless and tunnel-visioned on the court. That being said, she has a "Draymond Green" type of utility for team.

2. The problem becomes when woke organizations like the WNBA and ESPN try to put Reese ("Draymond Green") on par with CC ("Lebron James, Steph Curry, etc."). They mention these names interchangeably discussing the league when it's clear that Clark is the star, and quite frankly other players belong in front of Reese if we're going by how good of players they are. Reese has just embraced the BLM/woke narrative, so the activists in the organizations are going to exaggerate her for the good of their cause.

Is this what WNBA fans, and would-be fans want to see? I think not.

Regardless of what fans want to see, this is just further proof that women's basketball is just not effective. "Jungle ball" can be very entertaining at times, but skilled players know how to overcome it. Too many WNBA players aren't able to make sure the uncoordinated, bumbly Angel Reese isn't effective.. that's a mark on the league. Again, just watch her move, watch her hold the ball. It's like watching an 8th grade player who just happens to be very tall.

Most boy's High School state champs would roll any WNBA team by 10-20 points, and the best state champs in the nation would roll the WNBA Champ by 20 easy.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

They play in many top shelf stadiums. Their ticket prices are lower most likely. However, the costs for parking, food and drink are the same as the men's teams. Not such a deal. They should play in small college stadiums. That would cut the costs down and not exist as much on handouts. The league is artificial. And those athletes are better than I ever was in basketball.

We need to let the WNBA just die. It still loses like 30 million a year. It's a charity case by the woke NBA, trying to social engineer interest in a product that is by any observation and measure inferior.

Meanwhile, Democrats, feminists, and leftists whine that WNBA players should make equal to NBA players? LMAO. And they do this knowing that THEY don't even watch sports and probably don't know any players outside of CC and Angel Reese. They just whine and gripe about what men and society does organically.. which is what they usually do. They only want to tell others what they should do, they don't want to actually do the things they say others should do.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

If you think Clark is pretty your old lady must be dog ugly.

That much is for sure. And I’m not saying Clark is ugly, she’s just not in anyway above an average beauty standard..

 

[evenflow1969]

The "major" sports, excepting baseball, have all come to tolerate "incidental contact" that would constitute felony assaults were they committed in public. Hockey, football, and NBA fans have, it appears, come to accept and even like these displays of male aggression in the context of competitive sports.

But is that same phenomenon an enhancement of womens' basketball or a flaw what repulses their would-be fan base? Last year's television viewing numbers find more than twenty games involving Caitlin Clark that had viewership of more than a million, while there were ZERO games without her that drew that many viewers.

CC is conspicuous for playing aggressively but without physically assaulting her opponents. She is regularly assaulted, often with no penalty called.

The WNBA is a money-losing proposition, even with the enhanced viewership of the past year. Why wouldn't the owners at least attempt to control the bullshit by first, announcing to the players and the public that such conduct will no longer be tolerated, and second, making it happen. I would personally suggest suspending the coach, without pay, for a couple of games when one of these assaults occur. It would stop immediately.

What about you? Are you more likely to tune in when you know that the rules will be enforced, or do you like the muggings?

Lol, does not matter either way I don't watch, neither does anyone else.

 

[JoeB131]

That much is for sure. And I’m not saying Clark is ugly, she’s just not in anyway above an average beauty standard..

No, but she's a lot more attractive than most WNBA players, who look like they are mannish.

In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed woman is queen.

She lead the league in assists and was top 10 in scoring as a rookie. Not sure what your definition of “better” is but she’s easily a top 10 and arguably a top 5 player in her first year. The same team minus Clark was the worst team in tne league in 22 and the 3rd worst in 23. Was a PO team in 24.

Since the WNBA is largely a joke, it's kind of hard to take this seriously.

Put five NBA benchwarmers in wigs, and they'd wipe the floor with any WNBA team, and you know it.

No, she's the face of the WNBA now because she's cute. Not cute in a super-model sort of way, but more in that girl next door kind of way. She's white, she's wholesome, and she's being marketed as a product.

And not surprisingly, the other players resent her for it.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

No, but she's a lot more attractive than most WNBA players, who look like they are mannish.

Your trans ideology can’t even define what a woman is, so you really can’t comment.

Put five NBA benchwarmers in wigs, and they'd wipe the floor with any WNBA team, and you know it.

Your trans ideology would make that entirely possible as long as they just said they were a woman.

She's white

Don’t try to spread your race obsessed worldview into the rest of us, own it and keep that contempt inward.

she's wholesome, and she's being marketed as a product.

And not surprisingly, the other players resent her for it.

what’s wrong with being wholesome? Lol

 

[Unkotare]

The "major" sports, excepting baseball, have all come to tolerate "incidental contact" that would constitute felony assaults were they committed in public. Hockey, football, and NBA fans have, it appears, come to accept and even like these displays of male aggression in the context of competitive sports.

But is that same phenomenon an enhancement of womens' basketball or a flaw what repulses their would-be fan base? Last year's television viewing numbers find more than twenty games involving Caitlin Clark that had viewership of more than a million, while there were ZERO games without her that drew that many viewers.

CC is conspicuous for playing aggressively but without physically assaulting her opponents. She is regularly assaulted, often with no penalty called.

The WNBA is a money-losing proposition, even with the enhanced viewership of the past year. Why wouldn't the owners at least attempt to control the bullshit by first, announcing to the players and the public that such conduct will no longer be tolerated, and second, making it happen. I would personally suggest suspending the coach, without pay, for a couple of games when one of these assaults occur. It would stop immediately.

What about you? Are you more likely to tune in when you know that the rules will be enforced, or do you like the muggings?

Why do you keep commenting on sports when you clearly hate sports?

 

[Unkotare]

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Since the WNBA is largely a joke, it's kind of hard to take this seriously.
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Just like you!

 

[JoeB131]

Your trans ideology can’t even define what a woman is, so you really can’t comment.

Oh, then we should just replace all the WNBA players with trans men, and we're fine.

Your trans ideology would make that entirely possible as long as they just said they were a woman.

I guess. So let's look what is happening here. To please the radical feminists, they created this WNBA, something no one asked for except maybe College players looking for something to do with their lives after they got their BS Degrees for Sports Management or whatever. Except no one cares.

The joke was when Biden traded that arms dealer for the WNBA player; that was the only time that anyone cared about a WNBA trade.

So the WNBA decided to promote this pretty white girl for publicity, and surprise, all the "serious" players don't like her.

Don’t try to spread your race obsessed worldview into the rest of us, own it and keep that contempt inward.

Um, if Clark wasn't white, you racists wouldn't give a flying **** about her.

what’s wrong with being wholesome? Lol

Nothing at all... if that's what your goal was.

Let's just replace all the players with JC Penny catalog models, who cares if they can play or not.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Um, if Clark wasn't white, you racists wouldn't give a flying **** about her.

No. If she wasn’t white, nobody would have to defend her from racists like you… who create a conspiracy theory about the reason for her success. basketball fans of any kind know why she’s a phenom by her play. She’s basically the Steph Curry phenomenon in the WNBA. No other WNBA player makes certain plays she can make. But you can’t see that because you’re so bitter and race obsessed along with Angel Reese, Jamelle Hill, and the woke ESPN sports media

Let's just replace all the players with JC Penny catalog models, who cares if they can play or not.

I could walk down the street and find 3 women more attractive than Clark. I’ve never heard one person talk about how hot Clark is. So.. poof goes your argument

 

[Couchpotato]

No, but she's a lot more attractive than most WNBA players, who look like they are mannish.

In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed woman is queen.

Clark is better looking than some of the women in the NBA that's for sure but she is hardly the prettiest or even in the top 20.

Since the WNBA is largely a joke, it's kind of hard to take this seriously.

Put five NBA benchwarmers in wigs, and they'd wipe the floor with any WNBA team, and you know it.

No, she's the face of the WNBA now because she's cute. Not cute in a super-model sort of way, but more in that girl next door kind of way. She's white, she's wholesome, and she's being marketed as a product.

And not surprisingly, the other players resent her for it.

No one is making the assertion that she is better than NBA players.

No. If she wasn’t white, nobody would have to defend her from racists like you… who create a conspiracy theory about the reason for her success. basketball fans of any kind know why she’s a phenom by her play. She’s basically the Steph Curry phenomenon in the WNBA. No other WNBA player makes certain plays she can make. But you can’t see that because you’re so bitter and race obsessed along with Angel Reese, Jamelle Hill, and the woke ESPN sports media

I could walk down the street and find 3 women more attractive than Clark. I’ve never heard one person talk about how hot Clark is. So.. poof goes your argument

She’s popular for tbe same reason Steph Curry is so popular. They are relatable. Neither is a freak athlete like LeBron. Neither is an over powering force like Shaq. Their game seems achievable with enough hard work. Doesn’t mean it is but it has the appearance of attainability that LeBron, Jordon, Shaq, Giannis’s doesn’t. I can practice and work all I want I’ll never be able to do the things LeBron or Jordon can. I’ll never be 7’ tall and weigh 350. But I might be able to drain 3’s from all over the court

 

[JoeB131]

No. If she wasn’t white, nobody would have to defend her from racists like you… who create a conspiracy theory about the reason for her success. basketball fans of any kind know why she’s a phenom by her play. She’s basically the Steph Curry phenomenon in the WNBA. No other WNBA player makes certain plays she can make. But you can’t see that because you’re so bitter and race obsessed along with Angel Reese, Jamelle Hill, and the woke ESPN sports media

Or I just don't care.

It's a contact sport, not sure what she's whining about.

I could walk down the street and find 3 women more attractive than Clark. I’ve never heard one person talk about how hot Clark is. So.. poof goes your argument

Except all the people who claim she is.

Clark is better looking than some of the women in the NBA that's for sure but she is hardly the prettiest or even in the top 20.

ACtually, the WNBA, it's "who looks least like a man!"

She’s popular for tbe same reason Steph Curry is so popular. They are relatable. Neither is a freak athlete like LeBron. Neither is an over powering force like Shaq. Their game seems achievable with enough hard work. Doesn’t mean it is but it has the appearance of attainability that LeBron, Jordon, Shaq, Giannis’s doesn’t. I can practice and work all I want I’ll never be able to do the things LeBron or Jordon can. I’ll never be 7’ tall and weigh 350. But I might be able to drain 3’s from all over the court

But here's the point. A really athletic man is considered attractive.

A woman after a certain level of athleticism isn't, because she looks too mannish.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

A woman after a certain level of athleticism isn't, because she looks too mannish.

Would maybe say… “like a tranny”?

 

[Zincwarrior]

Wait women play basketball? Why are they not in the kitchen making sammiches for the menfolk?

 

[Couchpotato]

Except all the people who claim she is.

Claim she is what? Pretty? Got a link to all the people claiming that other than the people claiming the only reason she's popular is that she's pretty? Hint she's popular because she's one of the best women playing basketball, and as I stated earlier her game is relatable. 99.999% of little girls will never be Aja Wilson and they know it.

ACtually, the WNBA, it's "who looks least like a man!"

There are plenty of WNBA players who are far more pretty than Clark. You could make the argument that Reece is prettier than Clark. She's a little Sid the sloth looking but

But here's the point. A really athletic man is considered attractive.

A woman after a certain level of athleticism isn't, because she looks too mannish.

None of which has anything to do with how good Clark is. Why does it hurt your feelings so badly that she's good a basketball?

 

[MarathonMike]

That is the problem for WNBA
Women just don’t care.

Randomly ask women to name a WNBA team and they can’t
Ask anyone to name a player other than Caitlyn Clark and few can.

Oh I know one! Brian Griner, the idiot who tried to smuggle weed into Russia and got Putin's main weapon's dealer Victor Bout released from prison!

 

[odanny]

Brian Griner..

 

[Mr. Friscus]

None of which has anything to do with how good Clark is. Why does it hurt your feelings so badly that she's good a basketball?

• Joe = woke
• Woke = support for all BLM/black causes and agendas
• Black/BLM sports agenda = “Basketball is our game, and if a white person comes in and is better, it can’t be organically because we’re superior, so let’s make up a race conspiracy”

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Claim she is what? Pretty?

Hey, we all know Clark is known for her looks..like pro golfer-turned-model Paige Spiranac. Look at em, 2 smoking hot athletes.. LOL

 

[Zincwarrior]

Hey, we all know Clark is known for her looks..like pro golfer-turned-model Paige Spiranac. Look at em, 2 smoking hot athletes.. LOL

We all know the best sports babes are female skiiers.