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Jesus taught to give to the poor.
Let's just stop there.
Period.
He also taught us not to steal. Why do you ignore that part of his post?
You do not bless a man by robbing a person and giving it to someone else. Even if your intentions are noble, you've committed an evil against a person.
It's not our job to make people who are rich give to the poor. They are the ones responsible for their stewardship. They are the ones who have to answer to God for what they do.
The power of heaven does not come with compulsion. It comes with persuasion, long suffering, kindness, gentleness, meekness, love unfeigned, etc.
It's unrighteous dominion that comes with force.
Jesus said to pay your taxes, yet you call it robbery. Your attempt to justify greed exposes what you really love. Robbing the rich to feed the poor, or robbing the poor to give to the rich, which will God have mercy on?
Yesterday the news exposed Paul Ryan's compassion. He's sponsoring a bill that takes $126 million from campaigns to give to cancer research, after a little girl died from a brain tumor, while at the same time cutting $1.5 billion from the same program.
Please Avatar, preach to us about robbery.
Then what mercy will you have?Neither
When it comes to the matter of taxes, then it's no longer called stealing.Jesus taught to give to the poor.
Let's just stop there.
Period.
He also taught us not to steal. Why do you ignore that part of his post?
You do not bless a man by robbing a person and giving it to someone else. Even if your intentions are noble, you've committed an evil against a person.
It's not our job to make people who are rich give to the poor. They are the ones responsible for their stewardship. They are the ones who have to answer to God for what they do.
The power of heaven does not come with compulsion. It comes with persuasion, long suffering, kindness, gentleness, meekness, love unfeigned, etc.
It's unrighteous dominion that comes with force.
That is simply your view and/or opinion.
The view that not paying your taxes, is equal to stealing from the government is equally if not more valid.
Hence I didn't bother with that nonsense.
I won't be addressing this point again either.
Thanks.
Somebody mentioned something about the negative connotation of the word fat and it's comparison to the liberal soul. However, I found another text in the same book showing that it's not negative at all.One can surely argue that.
In my morning devotion I came across a text that I never noticed before, well, not like this at least....
Proverbs 11:25 (King James Version)
The liberal soul shall be made fat: and he that watereth shall be watered also himself.
Pretty cool huh?
That chapter also had some other good nuggets...
Proverbs 11:4 (King James Version),
Proverbs 11:9 (King James Version),
Proverbs 11:24 (King James Version),
and
Proverbs 11:28 (King James Version)
Words of pure wisdom.
Somebody mentioned something about the negative connotation of the word fat and it's comparison to the liberal soul. However, I found another text in the same book showing that it's not negative at all.One can surely argue that.
In my morning devotion I came across a text that I never noticed before, well, not like this at least....
Proverbs 11:25 (King James Version)
Pretty cool huh?The liberal soul shall be made fat: and he that watereth shall be watered also himself.
That chapter also had some other good nuggets...
Proverbs 11:4 (King James Version),
Proverbs 11:9 (King James Version),
Proverbs 11:24 (King James Version),
and
Proverbs 11:28 (King James Version)
Words of pure wisdom.
Behold...
Proverbs 13:4 (King James Version)
I dont think anyone is disputing that the scriptures teach us to be liberal with what we have. The disputation is taking that to mean that liberalism, which has nothing to do with being liberal, is somehow justified in the scriptures.
I still havent seen any attempt to address the following verse that the Lord is telling us to be liberal by selling what we have been blessed with instead of keeping it all for ourselves.
I've never considered selling what we have as being liberal with what we have, but that's what the scriptures are teaching. It really is a great passage. I just don't see how the passage turns into justifying legalized Robbery.
Vox, see my post above about Matthew 19. You're either ignorant or a liar. But you're one of them.
Vox, see my post above about Matthew 19. You're either ignorant or a liar. But you're one of them.
I dont think anyone is disputing that the scriptures teach us to be liberal with what we have. The disputation is taking that to mean that liberalism, which has nothing to do with being liberal, is somehow justified in the scriptures.
I still havent seen any attempt to address the following verse that the Lord is telling us to be liberal by selling what we have been blessed with instead of keeping it all for ourselves.
I've never considered selling what we have as being liberal with what we have, but that's what the scriptures are teaching. It really is a great passage. I just don't see how the passage turns into justifying legalized Robbery.
the whole premise of the teachings of Jesus to be leftard is idiocy.
And that is a new trend in the leftist brainwashing machine - to use the hated religion when they think it serves them ( because the vast majority of the populace is extremely ignorant) - and preach that Jesus advocated income redistribution through high taxation
which He, obviously, did not, but when did the left cared about the Truth?
Oh how sweet, coming to the defense of your con brother. Shitheads can defend themselves.Vox, see my post above about Matthew 19. You're either ignorant or a liar. But you're one of them.
Odd, nothing you've said in that posts makes Vox ignorant or a liar. Perhaps you should worry less about whether others are lying and more about whether you are.
Oh how sweet, coming to the defense of your con brother. Shitheads can defend themselves.Vox, see my post above about Matthew 19. You're either ignorant or a liar. But you're one of them.
Odd, nothing you've said in that posts makes Vox ignorant or a liar. Perhaps you should worry less about whether others are lying and more about whether you are.
I dont think anyone is disputing that the scriptures teach us to be liberal with what we have. The disputation is taking that to mean that liberalism, which has nothing to do with being liberal, is somehow justified in the scriptures.
I still havent seen any attempt to address the following verse that the Lord is telling us to be liberal by selling what we have been blessed with instead of keeping it all for ourselves.
I've never considered selling what we have as being liberal with what we have, but that's what the scriptures are teaching. It really is a great passage. I just don't see how the passage turns into justifying legalized Robbery.
the whole premise of the teachings of Jesus to be leftard is idiocy.
And that is a new trend in the leftist brainwashing machine - to use the hated religion when they think it serves them ( because the vast majority of the populace is extremely ignorant) - and preach that Jesus advocated income redistribution through high taxation
which He, obviously, did not, but when did the left cared about the Truth?
He also taught us not to steal. Why do you ignore that part of his post?
You do not bless a man by robbing a person and giving it to someone else. Even if your intentions are noble, you've committed an evil against a person.
It's not our job to make people who are rich give to the poor. They are the ones responsible for their stewardship. They are the ones who have to answer to God for what they do.
The power of heaven does not come with compulsion. It comes with persuasion, long suffering, kindness, gentleness, meekness, love unfeigned, etc.
It's unrighteous dominion that comes with force.
Jesus said to pay your taxes, yet you call it robbery. Your attempt to justify greed exposes what you really love. Robbing the rich to feed the poor, or robbing the poor to give to the rich, which will God have mercy on?
Taxes hurt the poor as much as they hurt the rich. Not sure why you seem to think it matters how much money a man makes. I don't think the Lord would justify me in hating any of my brethren.
Nor do I see how it's greedy to want people to minister to the needs of others on their own rather than having the government steal their money to pretend to help the poor.
Jesus said to pay your taxes, yet you call it robbery. Your attempt to justify greed exposes what you really love. Robbing the rich to feed the poor, or robbing the poor to give to the rich, which will God have mercy on?
Taxes hurt the poor as much as they hurt the rich. Not sure why you seem to think it matters how much money a man makes. I don't think the Lord would justify me in hating any of my brethren.
Nor do I see how it's greedy to want people to minister to the needs of others on their own rather than having the government steal their money to pretend to help the poor.
Your arguement is based on the belief that the government is stealing from you and robbing you when you pay taxes. If one rejects that concept, your ideas have no weight and seem false.
Jesus said to pay your taxes, yet you call it robbery. Your attempt to justify greed exposes what you really love. Robbing the rich to feed the poor, or robbing the poor to give to the rich, which will God have mercy on?
Taxes hurt the poor as much as they hurt the rich. Not sure why you seem to think it matters how much money a man makes. I don't think the Lord would justify me in hating any of my brethren.
Nor do I see how it's greedy to want people to minister to the needs of others on their own rather than having the government steal their money to pretend to help the poor.
Your arguement is based on the belief that the government is stealing from you and robbing you when you pay taxes. If one rejects that concept, your ideas have no weight and seem false.
Jesus said to pay your taxes, yet you call it robbery. Your attempt to justify greed exposes what you really love. Robbing the rich to feed the poor, or robbing the poor to give to the rich, which will God have mercy on?
Taxes hurt the poor as much as they hurt the rich. Not sure why you seem to think it matters how much money a man makes. I don't think the Lord would justify me in hating any of my brethren.
Nor do I see how it's greedy to want people to minister to the needs of others on their own rather than having the government steal their money to pretend to help the poor.
Your arguement is based on the belief that the government is stealing from you and robbing you when you pay taxes. If one rejects that concept, your ideas have no weight and seem false.
What did "liberal" mean 2-3000 years ago. Jesus taught to give to the poor, (a lesson that definitely needs some caveats), but he didn't advocate taking wealth from the rich by force. It's supposed to be voluntary--something modern liberals have no ability to comprehend, except when they excuse their leaders from the rules they make for the rest of us.
Jesus taught to give to the poor.
Let's just stop there.
Period.
