Like rocks?Well if subatomic particles have spiritual content so would rocks.So rocks are spiritual beings?You skipped the whole section on the sequence of folding.Life didn't evolved on earth.Those are good questions.Venus is a new planet. Keep watching it for generations, it will become similar to earth.Your link is on themodynamics, not chemistry. I was not posting on the section on thermodynamics. Have you found any errors Thaxton et al made on chemistry?
Much better. I've found a fundamental logic error.
He shows that a 1952 experiment wasn't good enough, and thus declares evolution must be impossible without divine guidance. The problem there is incorrectoy assuming that the Mille experiment was the final word on the matter. It wasn't. The Miller experiment is obsolete. It didn't even use the right atmospheric as a starting point. Thus, Thaxton's supposed debunking is obsolete.
Can you explain why most peer reviewed scientific journals do not give the actual chemical reaction product proportions in MIller's famous experiment?
You tell us. Don't ask me to explain your theories.
I suggest you look at more modern prebiotic chemistry theories. For example, we now know primitive earth contained iron and carbonites that would have neutralized acids, so a formic acid buildup wouldn't have been an issue.
Inaccurate post - try reading my posts more carefully. So, can you link to your theory about carbonites? Did you mean carbonates which were deposited by the geologic carbon cycle?
Definitions of Carbonites here:
Definition of CARBONITE
a blasting explosive varying greatly in formula but containing among its ingredients a carbonaceous substance (as oak bark), a nitrate, and now usually nitroglycerin; a natural coke usually resulting from contact of coal deposits with igneous rock intrusions… See the full definitionwww.merriam-webster.com
Or did you mean this definition:
What is Carbonite? - Definition from WhatIs.com
Carbonite provides cloud backup services to consumers and small to medium-sized businesses. Files can be accessed through a computer or mobile device.searchdatabackup.techtarget.com
Excerpt:
"Carbonite Inc. is an online backup company in Boston. Founded in 2005, Carbonite sells cloud backup to consumers"
Ah yes, life on earth was created after the clouds went back up - See Genesis chapter 1.
OK, I learned a new one! Cloud back up!
Btw - I have a sense of humor!.Btw - I have a sense of humor!
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.....those waters ...
a question earlier in response to your reply the water was from Earth ... the above implying the universe was an ocean and our planet was placed inside a bubble the boundaries being heaven, not much different than the tortoise "shell". seems they thought the blue sky was water.
your disinformation does prove, humor is in the eye of the beholder.
Weird response. Of course, the universe is not water - where did you get such a belief from?
But it is interesting that chemical evolutionists often refer to how large our universe is and that therefore the unlikely chain of chemical reactions required for protein synthesis becomes likely somewhere at sometime.
The problem is that while our universe has been calculated to have a mass of 10^79 amu (atomic mass units) - this is NOT all a primordial soup favorable for amino acid synthesis. In fact, there isn't even any geological evidence such as 'soup' ever existed on earth!
Most of the universe is made up of stars - clearly no amino acid synthesis can occur within stars.
Oh, and water is actually an enemy of amino acid synthesis from a soup containing HCN as a starter molecule for chemical reaction pathways to amino acids. One of many reactions:
HCN + H2O yields formamide + H2O yields formic acid (HCOOH or CH2O2).
Btw - you quote a Bible translation that I do not prefer - not sure whose post you are quoting from..Weird response. Of course, the universe is not water - where did you get such a belief from?
a response to your lack of one -
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
again, those waters ... its your belief not mine.
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primordial Earth.
Care to elaborate?
How do you propose the CO2 greenhouse atmosphere be returned to carbonates in the crust of Venus? There can be no geologic carbon cycle without oceans of liquid water - how do you get oceans of liquid water on Venus given the heat on the surface of the planet?
You think the sun will cool and solar radiation will cool and that Venus would therefore cool? I doubt you will find any scientist who considers that possible/tenable - most actually think Venus will be swallowed up by our sun during its postulated entry into red giant phase.
I don't propose anything, but I expect Venus eventually will cool off. The slowing process of cooling is -between other factors- caused by the slow rotation in that planet. (I have mentioned before the "lemonade stirring" as a method for other phenomena to be accomplished as well)
The first spacecrafts sent to Venus decades ago detected "snow" in its upper atmosphere. Even the ancient people said that Venus was a planet with " a tail". Probably gases or dust/particles coming out from that planet somehow. The trapped high temperature in Venus inside a cold upper atmosphere is like hot coffee inside a thermos mug, eventually the heat will be overcome and the coffee will cool off.
Point is, that the current status of Venus today is very similar to the visioned status of earth as it was in its past, because whatever the formation theory you might apply for the formation of our planet, earth was hot inside and outside (surface) at its very beginning.
I do not expect either that Venus or other planet might cause life like on earth, because life in our planet has its own DNA. If life arises in other planets, it might have a different DNA.
And, by the way, if the Sun reaches a red giant phase, then the Sun will respect no one and even Jupiter might be swallowed. But, of course, pulling or repelling of the planets by a red giant sun won't be just because an increased size. We don't really know how such scenario will become to be. We can speculate a lot, but can't predict anything.
.I do not expect either that Venus or other planet might cause life like on earth, because life in our planet has its own DNA. If life arises in other planets, it might have a different DNA.
having evolved on planet Earth would give no reason to believe the same occurrence will not happen under the same conditions anywhere in the universe.
not sure the dna is such a question as why what evolved on Earth relies on an outside source similar to itself for nutrients to survive - seems the spiritual component might be more alien than the physiology. a physiology sustainable by absorption of the elements. not eating a cow.
Evolution is not the process.
It appears you want to "impose" the same kind of life on earth in other worlds having that you yourself have not a single idea of how life was formed. I guess that is the kind of obfuscation many people suffer when they try to find life somewhere in the universe.
However, the "spiritual component" expression is a very well made description. I like it..It appears you want to "impose" the same kind of life on earth in other worlds having that you yourself have not a single idea of how life was formed. I guess that is the kind of obfuscation many people suffer when they try to find life somewhere in the universe.
physiology is not so hard to comprehend -
the first life were the elements -
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they combined to form molecules -
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molecules formed compounds - inorganic ... organic
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the organic compounds create physiology - single cell being
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somewhere perhaps at the very beginning w/ the elements a spiritual content (metaphysical) became involved and guided the process and made the decisions that eventually evolved into the physiology associated with living beings.
yes there is evolution - everything evolves not everything has a guidance, the guidance must be incorporated in any experiment meant to create an initial life form - the spiritual content is what kept the host together to progress through the building process.
* did the miller experiment "fix" conditions to make them work - that is how they will succeed - mimicking the initial process..You skipped the whole section on the sequence of folding.
you really have a reading comprehension - problem ...
throughout the development of physiology from the beginning there became an inseparable spiritual content that guided the host's evolutionary progression.
I think you have been reading too much Tom Robbins..So rocks are spiritual beings?
in suspension that is neither here nor there, their evolution is not apparent.
metaphysical physiology disappears when its spiritual content is removed - is the proof of their origin and presently their inseparability..Well if subatomic particles have spiritual content so would rocks.
that's why the elements were considered the first forms of life evolving from subatomic particles - the living universe - everything in the universe is alive in some form or another.