Does CNN realize we are a Christian nation?

[Mashmont]

I am neither a Marxist or religious but an impartial review of the bible's text reveals it aligns more closely with communist principles like Marx's "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" than anything associated with MAGAism.

You’re talking about what Communism says, rather than what it actually is. The biblical verse refers to a small group of people, the Disciples,, who are all intensely dedicated. The biblical version is voluntary sharing, whereas in Communism, participation is coerced.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

I don't think anyone would consider America a Christian nation anymore, or really even close to it. Sorry, but you haven't paid attention to much for the past 50 years

Christian nationalism has not gone away since 1984. It’s become more powerful and has six white Christian nationalists on the Supreme Court and that includes Thomas who is white by marriage. And religion.

 

[schmidlap]

Jesus’ quotes in the Bible. Much closer to MAGA than the atheist Marxist left.

Your politicization of religion is lacking in any citations.

What "quotes"?

 

[whutTHEYsay]

The biblical version is voluntary sharing, whereas in Communism, participation is coerced.

Can you explain why the voters and their bible toting spawn of those white Christian nationalists who helped Reagan win that massive landslide election in 1984 believe that the best way to share the nation’s paycheck to paycheck,working class bounty is to share the wealth upward to the millionaires and the billionaires table and just hope there’s enough crumbs falling to the ground that it allows everyone to improve their lives in gratitude for the increased productivity they have produced over the past 50 years

 

[berg80]

You’re talking about what Communism says, rather than what it actually is. The biblical verse refers to a small group of people, the Disciples,, who are all intensely dedicated. The biblical version is voluntary sharing, whereas in Communism, participation is coerced.

I was replying to what you wrote. "Jesus’ quotes in the Bible. Much closer to MAGA than the atheist Marxist left." Very little if anything about the teachings of jesus is found in MAGAist doctrine.

 

[g5000]

Jesus’ quotes in the Bible. Much closer to MAGA than the atheist Marxist left.

Um, hell no.

MAGA is the antithesis of Christianity.

Read Jesus's admonition about the sheep and the goats.

Trump has made you all goats.

 

[g5000]

I am neither a Marxist or religious but an impartial review of the bible's text reveals it aligns more closely with communist principles like Marx's "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" than anything associated with MAGAism.

Some of our Founders were proto-communists.

Thomas Paine in particular.

 

[g5000]

Jesus’ quotes in the Bible. Much closer to MAGA than the atheist Marxist left.

What does the bible have to say about MAGA Trump's adultery?

What does the bible have to say about MAGA Trump's daily bearing of false witness against others?

What does the bible have to say about MAGA Trump's stealing from the elderly, cancer kids, banks, insurance companies, and investors?

What does the bible have to say about MAGA Trump grabbing pussies, coveting his neighbor's wife, and sexually assaulting women?

Were all these parts excised from MAGA Trump's Patriot Bible?

What does the bible say about people who refuse to ask Jesus for forgiveness as MAGA Trump has admitted he has not EVER done? What will happen to such people when they die?

I think we all know who the atheist is in this picture.

 

[g5000]

Heeeeeeere's JESUS!



"But when the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then he will sit on the throne of his glory. Before him all the nations will be gathered, and he will separate them one from another, as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Then the King will tell those on his right hand, ‘Come, blessed of my Father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry, and you gave me food to eat. I was thirsty, and you gave me drink. I was a stranger, and you took me in. I was naked, and you clothed me. I was sick, and you visited me. I was in prison, and you came to me.’

“Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry, and feed you; or thirsty, and give you a drink? When did we see you as a stranger, and take you in; or naked, and clothe you? When did we see you sick, or in prison, and come to you?’

“The King will answer them, ‘Most certainly I tell you, because you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’ Then he will say also to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire which is prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry, and you didn’t give me food to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me no drink; I was a stranger, and you didn’t take me in; naked, and you didn’t clothe me; sick, and in prison, and you didn’t visit me.’

“Then they will also answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and didn’t help you?’

“Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Most certainly I tell you, because you didn’t do it to one of the least of these, you didn’t do it to me.’ These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” — Matthew 25:31-46.

 

[irosie91]

I don't know if there is any evidence that the historical character favored authoritarianism or communism.

If you want to pretend that your opinion is a "fact," please provide your documentation.

so many christian scholars LIKE to hook Jesus up with the ESSENES---a monastic sect of
jews which created monastic socialist communities out in the Negev-----so that would
make Jesus a socialist. It is clear by the writings of the NT----fourth hand tho they may
be that Jesus rejected Roman rule and rule by Roman proxies like Herod, the roman
appointed "high priests" and the pork barrel roman appointees----to wit, the tax
collectors and money changers------but don't tell your sunday school marm-----she
she doesn't know.

 

[g5000]

America is a secular nation. Our Founders went to great pains to make it that way.


The Bible has been weaponized to support slavery.

The Bible has been weaponized to support segregation.

The Bible has been weaponized to throw gays in prison.

The Bible has been weaponized to keep gays from having their marriages recognized the the STATE (Caesar) for government cash and prizes we all get for being married..

Blue Jesus: I want you to listen to me. I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Magdalene...

Red Jesus: I have a wide stance!




Blue Jesus: We have to pass the Law so we can find out what's in it.

Red Jesus: I will not heal you, blind man, until you show me some ID.



Blue Jesus: I have a pen and a direct phone line to my Father, and I am not afraid to use them.

Red Jesus: Muslims suck, and I'm pretty sure Doubting Thomas is a ***!



Blue Jesus: I invented cocaine as a way of telling you that you make too much money.

Red Jesus: Look at these hands! Look at these feet! I know more than anyone what torture is, and waterboarding is not torture.



Blue Jesus wears a WWBD (What Would Biden Do?) bracelet.



Red Jesus: And a Canaanite woman from that region came out and began to cry out, saying, "Have mercy on me, Lord, Son of David; my daughter is cruelly demon-possessed." But He did not answer her a word. And His disciples came and implored Him, saying, "Send her away, because she keeps shouting at us." But He answered and said, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."

Moral of the story: Red Jesus would support building a wall to keep out aliens so they don't suck up holy resources.



Blue Jesus: And Jesus entered the temple and drove out all who sold and bought in the temple, and he overturned the tables of the money-changers and the seats of those who sold pigeons. And the blind and the lame came to him in the temple, and he healed them.

Moral of the story: Blue Jesus hates profit, and believes health care should be free.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Some of our Founders were proto-communists.

Thomas Paine in particular.

what gives you that idea. No revolutionary war era patriot gave most of his life for the cause of “individual“ liberty.

John Adams famously said . Without the pen of Thomas Paine, Washington’s sword would have been drawn in vain.

Marxism is not about individual liberty as I understand it

 

[schmidlap]

so many christian scholars LIKE to hook Jesus up with the ESSENES---a monastic sect of
jews which created monastic socialist communities out in the Negev-----so that would
make Jesus a socialist. It is clear by the writings of the NT----fourth hand tho they may
be that Jesus rejected Roman rule and rule by Roman proxies like Herod, the roman
appointed "high priests" and the pork barrel roman appointees----to wit, the tax
collectors and money changers------but don't tell your sunday school marm-----she
she doesn't know.

There are Christians who see their faith best applied to political philosophy by socialism.

Christian Socialism as a Political Ideology​

I have no idea why MAGA proponents imagine their dogma is somehow Christian. Christian charity is sorely lacking in their statism.

 

[sartre play]

How does anyone get a Need to Hate others, from the bible?

 

[irosie91]

There are Christians who see their faith best applied to political philosophy by socialism.

Christian Socialism as a Political Ideology​

I have no idea why MAGA proponents imagine their dogma is somehow Christian. Christian charity is sorely lacking in their statism.

I grew up in a very WASP and damned reactionary town and SOLIDLY republican and
functionally RESTRICTED. Sunday was a holiday----everykid (especially little girls dressed
up in nylon pastel dresses) went to church----Even I attended Sunday school as a guest.
Those people could be described as MAGA ----sorta. "SOCIALISM" was as dirty a word
as "labor unions"

 

[Kondor3]

Jesus is far closer to MAGA than he is to the Marxist left. That's just a fact.

Mixed feedback.

Insofar as the various authors of the New Testament may be relied upon to relay the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth...

It strikes me that Jesus was something of a Centrist in some very real sense of the word...

A teacher who served-up a variety of radical culture-challenging ideals and guidelines...

A teacher who was a "communist" (small "c") in that he favored communal sharing and discouraged property ownership...

A teacher who reveled in denouncing existing religious ceremonial in favor of individual communion with the Deity...

A teacher who preached love and forgiveness and tolerance and justice and generosity...

While, at the same time...

A teacher who showcased the more important of religious traditions and the importance of Deity worship and obedience...

A teacher who encouraged his followers to obey secular authorities insofar as their religious beliefs would allow...

A teacher who recognized differences between peoples and encouraged his people to adhere to their own culture...

A teacher who made a lifelong study of The Law and emphasized its importance and calm discussion and interpretation...

A teacher who would bring a metaphorical "sword" to his people to fight corruption and wickedness...

------

All-in-all, a "mixed bag"... admittedly, a "confusing bag"... of ideas that today would be associated with Left, Right and Center...

It is probably justifiable to think of Jesus as a hybrid of Revolutionary + Traditionalist + Evangelical...

If one could quantify those diverse positions then...

Mathematically, Jesus would probably "average-out" somewhere in the middle...

Give-or-take a bit here-and-there...

A mix of Left, Right and Center has always struck me as best... able to pick-and-choose the best from the entire spectrum...

Of course, in public life today, and amongst ourselves, a great many Binary ( Left or Right only) fools are running about...

But men and women of good will... sane, pragmatic, honest, objective, and with some genuine heart, are a rare breed...

No wonder so many adherents fall well-short of the rather high bar that Jesus of Nazareth presents to Mankind.

 

[Lisa558]

Mixed feedback.

Insofar as the various authors of the New Testament may be relied upon to relay the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth...

It strikes me that Jesus was something of a Centrist in some very real sense of the word...

A teacher who served-up a variety of radical culture-challenging ideals and guidelines...

A teacher who was a "communist" (small "c") in that he favored communal sharing and discouraged property ownership...

A teacher who reveled in denouncing existing religious ceremonial in favor of individual communion with the Deity...

A teacher who preached love and forgiveness and tolerance and justice and generosity...

While, at the same time...

A teacher who showcased the more important of religious traditions and the importance of Deity worship and obedience...

A teacher who encouraged his followers to obey secular authorities insofar as their religious beliefs would allow...

A teacher who recognized differences between peoples and developed different approaches for those diverse audiences...

A teacher who made a lifelong study of The Law and emphasized its importance and calm discussion and interpretation...

A teacher who would bring a metaphorical "sword" to his people to fight corruption and wickedness...

------

All-in-all, a "mixed bag"... admittedly, a "confusing bag"... of Left, Right and Center ideas...

It is probably justifiable to think of Jesus as a hybrid of Revolutionary + Traditionalist + Evangelical...

If one could quantify those diverse positions then...

Mathematically, Jesus would probably "average-out" somewhere in the middle...

Give-or-take a bit here-and-there...

A mix of Left, Right and Center has always struck me as best... able to pick-and-choose the best from the entire spectrum...

Of course, in public life today, and amongst ourselves, a great many Binary ( Left or Right only) fools are running about...

But men and women of good will... sane, pragmatic, honest, objective, and with some genuine heart, are a rare breed...

No wonder so many adherents fall well-short of the rather high bar that Jesus of Nazareth presents to Mankind.

I’m not even sure Jesus was all that “radical.” For the most part, he taught traditional Jewish values and emphasized Hillel’s philosophy.

 

[Mashmont]

What does the bible have to say about MAGA Trump's adultery?

What does the bible have to say about MAGA Trump's daily bearing of false witness against others?

What does the bible have to say about MAGA Trump's stealing from the elderly, cancer kids, banks, insurance companies, and investors?

What does the bible have to say about MAGA Trump grabbing pussies, coveting his neighbor's wife, and sexually assaulting women?

Were all these parts excised from MAGA Trump's Patriot Bible?

What does the bible say about people who refuse to ask Jesus for forgiveness as MAGA Trump has admitted he has not EVER done? What will happen to such people when they die?

I think we all know who the atheist is in this picture.

Mosr of your claims are leftwing talking point lying nonsense. Trump's adultery is something for decades ago, and has nothing to do with MAGA principles. A leftwing reporter asked if Trump what offenses he asked forgiveness for. He was right in not answering, as it was a deceitful gotcha political question, in that whatever Trump would have mentioned would have been forever used against him.

Now that that's out of the way, let's look at the MAGA platform based on Trump's two terms.

1) Protection of Human Life. Trump and MAGA defeated Roe which called for abortion on demand nationally. Jesus would most definitely NOT approve of killing little children in the womb.

2) Protection of immigration laws. Jesus said to follow civil laws that do not clash with religious teaching. Trump enforced our immigration laws. Leftwingers did not. Period. In not following those laws, Democrats allowed much harm to people by allowing criminals and drugs across the border.

3) MAGA allows and encourages individuals to use their talents to the fullest by removing government regulation so they can earn money to support their familes. MAGA has done the same for Hispanics and Blacks by proving the most employment opportunity of any administration for those groups.

4) Curb terrorism: MAGA stopped international terrorism in its tracks by pursuing energy independence and starving foreign oil which finances Muslim terrorists.

5) Religious freedom. MAGA has given Christian more freedom to practice their religion, something Jesus would wholeheartedly endorse.

In short all these MAGA programs would be fully endorsed by Jesus.

On the other side, the Marxist left, first and foremost denies the existence of God and Jesus. And their atheist programs follow suit: they steal people's hard-earned money. Every Democrat lawmakers leaves office much richer than when they entered. Demcorats kill little children in the womb, the stifle religious freedom, the encourage women to be poor single mothers, endorse all manner of sexual perversion. They steal elections, they swamp America with illegals who harm Americans. And most of all, they lie. There is nothing resembling Christian biblical principles that has anything to do with the leftwing Democrats.

 

[JanetTheGreat]

Religion and Government are two separate things. The US isn't a "Christian" Nation, it is a nation of Christians AND many other peoples. Christian Nationalism is just a cult the same as the Leftist cult. Both are radicalized and feed the actions of each other.

 

[schmidlap]

I grew up in a very WASP and damned reactionary town and SOLIDLY republican and
functionally RESTRICTED. Sunday was a holiday----everykid (especially little girls dressed
up in nylon pastel dresses) went to church----Even I attended Sunday school as a guest.
Those people could be described as MAGA ----sorta. "SOCIALISM" was as dirty a word
as "labor unions"

I fail to detect Christian charity in maga discrimination against people of differing faiths, races, and nationalities, and their abandonment of humanitarian responsibility (USAID and other such moral commitments.)