Does CNN realize we are a Christian nation?

[Mashmont]

If you've never been part of a congregation that was asked to give money to the church I can assure you your experience is unique.

It's not unique. Catholic Churches rarely ask for money. Nobody knows whether you give or not, therefore donating is certainly not a requirement to attend.

 

[Mashmont]

No government entity demands that I give to the charities I wish to contribute to.

Schmidlap is talking about forced government charity. Please follow.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Forced charity isn't charity. Government robs people of that.

Government pald charity is no different than government paid military funds for the defense of the nation that can be charitable to the less advantaged. It’s how representative government works. We need to get you choir boy screwing Catholics out of the government when it comes to women’s right to an abortion safe and legal. Focus on mibding your own Catholic snob business before you start bitching about the government; you catholic oppressor of women. Stop forcing your religion on everybody else. It’s unAmerican. It’s more unAmerican than police state communism.

 

[Mashmont]

Government pald charity is no different than government paid military funds for the defense of the nation that can be charitable to the less advantaged. It’s how representative government works. We need to get you choir boy screwing Catholics out of the government when it comes to women’s right to an abortion safe and legal. Focus on mibding your own Catholic snob business before you start bitching about the government; you catholic oppressor of women. Stop forcing your religion on everybody else. It’s unAmerican. It’s more unAmerican than police state communism.

And yet you think it's fine to force your atheism on Americans. How did that work out in North Korea, China, Nazi Germany, Cambodia or the USSR? Every type of genocide and horrible atrocity in the history of the world has been committed by the atheist leadership in those countries. You talk about treatment of women? Women are disposable playthings to atheist regimes. Those are the countries, keep in mind that murdered and tortured clergy and closed churches.

 

[initforme]

As a christian i would br against a christian theocracy. Its wrong on every level government wise.

 

[g5000]

If you've never been part of a congregation that was asked to give money to the church I can assure you your experience is unique.

You must be thinking of Protestant denominations which ask/require their members to tithe.

The Catholic Church does not do that.

They pass a basket. That's it.

Sometimes they put on a Bingo event. There's a gambling loophole in the Catholic Bible somewhere which allows for Bingo.

 

[Mashmont]

As a christian i would br against a christian theocracy. Its wrong on every level government wise.

It's either that or an atheocracy. There is no in between. Check out my post #464 to see how atheocracies have worked out.

 

[initforme]

Theocracies cannot last at all.

 

[Mashmont]

Theocracies cannot last at all.

You think atheocracies last? So far 70 years is the record.

 

[initforme]

It's either that or an atheocracy. There is no in between. Check out my post #464 to see how that has worked out.

Nope. As a christian i cannot accept that wacko garbage.

 

[g5000]

It's either that or an atheocracy. There is no in between.

That is incorrect.

We are a secular nation. You are free to worship or not worship as you please.

The Founders took great pains to make us so.

 

[Mashmont]

That is incorrect.

We are a secular nation. You are free to worship or not worship as you please.

The Founders took great pains to make us so.

So I'll ask the question I always ask: What is the 'secular' position on abortion? The government either allows it or it doesn't.

 

[initforme]

So I'll ask the question I always ask: What is the 'secular' position on abortion? The government either allows it or it doesn't.

Thats been settled already. Its in the hands of voters. The most moral decision ever. As a christian it is a commendable decision.

 

[Mashmont]

Thats been settled already. Its in the hands of voters. The most moral decision ever. As a christian it is a commendable decision.

Nope. If a government allows abortion, then that is a godless or atheist position. It would be the same if government allowed rape or murder. I can see it now: "From now on, rape will be in the hands of the voters"

 

[Mashmont]

As I have mentioned a few times before, I have founded two faith-based charities to help my community.

I perform due diligence par none, and only provide aid to those who are in dire straits through no fault of their own.

And rather than provide cash money to those we assist, I buy them groceries and clothing, pay their utility bills, their rent, their mortgages, and whatever else needs to be done for them.

A long time ago, a woman was complaining she had given money to a neighbor for food and that neighbor had gone out and bought more liquor instead.

An old man in the group said, "If you want them to have FOOD, give them FOOD!"

That's been my guiding light ever since.

But I will tell you this. Despite my organizations growing larger and larger over time, with more and more donors, we have never been able to meet all the needs of our community. And that's coupled with all the local churches, fellowships like the Kiwanis, and many others.

There just isn't enough private heavy lifting to meet all the needs.

At first, it brought me a lot of joy helping people. But as word spread about us, more and more honest, decent people approached and that's when the pain began.

I have had to look people in the eyes and refuse them due to a lack of resources to help everyone who needed it.

So government does have a place for helping people, despite what libertarians will tell you.

If you're telling the truth, I respect the hell out of what you're doing.

 

[initforme]

Nope. If a government allows abortion, then that is a godless or atheist position. It would be the same if government allowed rape or murder. I can see it now: "From now on, rape will be in the hands of the voters"

Well then start telling women not to get pregnant....ever. Problem solved.

 

[g5000]

The whole reason the Puritans risked their lives to come to a frozen, barren, no-mans land on this continent is because they were being persecuted in England for not being the right brand of Christians.

The MAGA crowd has infected their religion with politics. This is a fatal mistake. Since Trump 1.0, church attendance nationwide has plummeted.

This same thing happened in Europe 200 years ago, and it nearly killed off religion there entirely.

Which is why our Founders did their best to make sure that did not happen here.

When you think of all the moral violations by Trump, and the acceptance of his degeneracy by his followers, and the decline in church attendance, one can certainly see why Tucker Carlson called Trump "a demonic force".

Satan could not ask for a better henchman on Earth.

No one is more godless, or more of an atheist, than Trump. He even admits he has never asked Jesus for forgiveness.

 

[Mashmont]

Well then start telling women not to get pregnant....ever. Problem solved.

Re-install societal sanction against sex outside marriage. That will go a long way.

 

[initforme]

The new trend of waiting much longer to get married will help the abortion isdue go away on its own. Less and less marriages will also help. A positive for the nation.

 

[initforme]

Re-install societal sanction against sex outside marriage. That will go a long way.

And promote marriage much much later in life. Or promote staying single. That helps too.